I just told you. I have looked up various ways to word this information with Japanese developers in general and Shinji Mikami. I can't find anything. Others are also asking you. It is your burden because it seems you're lying, working on word of mouth, or misinformed some other way. If it's so easy to find then link us one thing. I've tried, and I'm quite familiar with researching. I specifically told you I can't find the info you have said so that you know to prove it. Are you going to? I'm not trying to be negative here. I'm actually wanting to see this info and be informed.

Yeah they had marketing rights in America. All the commercials for FFX3 had xbox 360 at the end, no mention of ps3 and it still sold like 3 time more on ps3. They ran commercials during nba playoffs and finals, so it was an expensive marketing campaign.

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Maybe they were disappointed square released ffx3 on xbox because it was a ps exclusive and ms paid for square to breach their contract.

***Not really it's as simple as Sony is the one intimidating developers in japan to not develop for the Xbox.***

Do you have proof of that? I can list tons of games that go to Xbox, including last year's best-selling game out of Japan.

Or are we just going with this to suit a bias.

***Final Fantasy 13 Sold over 2 million copies on the Xbox 360 with out Japan and it was a worse version of the game, shipped on four discs yet managed to sell 2 million copies. So there is a fanbase of JRPG's on xbox they just need content.***

At its peak Xbox sold <50% of PlayStation on the first game, even less on the other two games. Since then, FF has lost even more sales on Xbox compared to PS.

I agree it should go everywhere possible because that's what I feel about games in general, but your argument from one figure doesn't really hold up when that was one point and not the totality and it ignores that even that one point was still much less than the competition.

I love how people like to throw around claims without any proof.

@above lol damm i really rattled the hornets nest on this one. I remember reading an article from some xbox executive names Bachus or something like that I believe it was a Eurogamer article about them trying to court developers and they were all afraid of even being seen with them. Because of repercussions of Sony. Which is why i stated why would Sony publicly say they were dissapointed with Square for FF13 on Xbox. This was all an account of him trying to win over Japan when Xbox original first launched. How shinji Mikami was fed up with Sony and how difficult it was to develop for the PS2 and they asked for help and they didn't so they went to Nintendo and Xbox. Shinji Mikami has been very vocal about Sony. Like I said i'm not doing the work this is stuff that I read and I also saw on youtube from interviews sorry i don't bookmark every single article in hopes to win a future debate lol.

It's funny how most people here throw claims and no one ever asks them for proof the bias of the moderators is pretty funny as well. You would think they would try to keep a website that tries to be impartial but guess not. Nothing wrong with having a bias towards a specific console clearly some of you do as do I. I make no qualms about it I prefer Xbox it's not a crime. But what is fair is fair. Should I ask for proof of all games that are JRPG on Playstation that sell over 3 million outside of the big franchises? but they don't. People like to bash the Activision deal because allegedly it could potentially remove games from other platforms. But sony does the same thing and they might open an investigation that if it were to happen could shed some light into the inner workings of Sony's deals with japanese developers. Does anyone have a smoking gun obviously not which from my time in this website is the only thing that will satisfy most people that's why i don't bother googling it for most of you. Just saying people should also bash Sony for the Deals it strikes from paying developers to withhold games from Xbox like FF16. That should not be legal I understand Microsoft has also done it in the past and i condemn that as well. I believe all third party developers should do as they please and develop for all platforms if they can financially do it. I understand small developers cant so that's fine. But Nintendo, Sony, or Microsoft should not financially compensate any developer to exclude a competitor how is that not anti-competitive. That practice should be outdated. Unless Sony buys Square they should still release FF on Xbox Sony should have no input in that decision but it does. As far as sales go like I said with continued support most things should grow in time not everything is an instant success only several titles in gaming sell a lot not all of them do. People act like all japanese games sell 3 million plus on Playstation yet they dont only a handful do. So should we start saying Playstation owners dont buy japanese games as well outside of proven franchises. But there is no pleasing people on this website at least be open to the possibility when government gets involved that maybe there is something to it. This can of worms was opened because of Sony's response to the deal now everything is getting scrutinized which i think is great it will benefit everyone in the long run.

Senators and factual don't really belong in the same sentence.

@lifexline, with all that proof of developer intimidation out there on YouTube, I'd think you'd just paste those easy to find links and save yourself the trouble of writing an essay describing them

Bro, no ones intimidating, stop forcing xbox gamers to accept jrpg - they didn't buy the system for it and they're fine?

Xbox sells poorly in Japan, so thats already a lot of missed sales.

It's like expecting cod on switch, let it go man.

So..

Your initial claim is that Sony was intimidating developers to not work with XBox. You specifically state Shinji Mikami as an example. Now you're not talking about that and are listing other criticisms. All I can tell by your comments is nothing factual, but a very common issue with media today. Taking a culmination of many facts and info and muddling them together so you end up sounding like you got a point, but upon looking it up we can't find proof because it's too mixed up.

"It's been known for a bit that Sony pays devs to keep games of Xbox"

Just like MS also has bought third party games. But, in the case of what you're talking about.. absolutely no one was afraid to release XBox ports or even to have XBox exclusives. I just told you several huge JRPG's were XBox exclusives and Japan still wasn't interested. So are you gonna say consumers were paid by Sony now?

Also, back on your "disappointed" topic with FF13. Dude. You're reaching so hard. In an interview with Jack Tretton, he was specifically asked about FF13 being announced to also come to XBox. They asked if he was disappointed in that announcement. He simply said yes but that he is not surprised. They also had zero money to throw around like you're thinking they did. XBox didn't sell in Japan. PS3 barely had an install base in Japan. They were so exhausted of money from developing PS3, bluray, and CELL that they absolutely had no funds to push some made up monopolistic practice to fend off a console with exceptionally low sales that was gaining no traction even with many JRPG's that never made it to PS3 at all.

Also, FF16 is a 6 month timed exclusive, and the decision behind this was actually because Sony engineers and dev teams assisted them in developing and optimizing the game, as well as promoting the game. This allows them to release the game on time or sooner than they would on PlayStation platforms rather than wait till all versions are completed and optimized together. They are releasing on PC after. We don't know about an XBox version yet, however.. Square recently came out and said that Japan style games don't do well on XBox and they will only release on a case by case basis. Sony isn't even paying to stay off XBox and Japan devs don't want to release on it. It just isn't profitable, or it's so risky to get back a small return that no one wants to take the risks. You're really just trying to find something based off little evidence, and I stress the word evidence is loosely used as it's a bit of a reach. I don't understand throwing so much conspiracy theories without objective evidence. Also, the misunderstanding you seem to be making is the Judge allowing MS to seek info on any deals Sony may have made to keep games off of GamePass. Not to do with Japan. This is also a more negative way to word PS Plus Premium exclusives, and I believe GamePass has done this. Obviously if it's an exclusive you can word it as being paid to be kept off other platforms/services. Which, back on the Japan claim.. means you'd be saying MS is the actual one who paid Japan devs to keep away from PS3.. if you want to keep using the negative and sorta misleading way to explain how exclusivity works.

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You're forgetting the 360 was the more popular console when FFXIII released. Now it's leagues behind.

So long story short, @Lifexline, you have no proof for your baseless claims. Got it.

Lifexline

Congress wants to investigate lol, 11(at the time maybe more now) people said something and from what ive seen it started with one or more from washinton state. Home of ms hmmmm interesting.

Again if ms isnt throwing money to square for gamepass do you think wants to keep porting games for a customer base(xbox) that arent buying games. MS broke some of yall to the point if it aint on gamepass you guys arent playing it IE buying it, You think sony put in for live a live to be a secondary exclusive gtfoh. second can you sit here and tell me ms doesnt have 3rd party exclusives why the f does it matter where there from. Also to be technical ff13 is said to have sold 1.9 million, so out of 12.5 million 1.9 sold on xbox. How much was development for square to port that to 360 . I personally dont know but maybe just maybe its not worth it.

Then last to make it fair sure the same way ms went up and bought damn near the whole western rpg market. Come on man just buy some games.

Tl;dr. Just accept that Japan doesn't care about Xbox.

You sound goofy, bruh. Intimidate? Let's look at a couple of factors. Octopath Travelers was on XB, but not part 2. Perhaps SQUARE ENIX knows more than you about the level of return they receive. If they can't get a return on a title that went straight to GP, why bother? So, Sony is intimidating devs from putting games on XB? Not Nintendo, though? It can't have anything to do with MS only selling 2.3 million console in Japan over 10 years? MS only puts out as much effort as their community show they're willing to support. When you have a "I'll wait until it's on Gold/GP" community no company is going to have confidence in put their best offerings on XB. That wasn't Sony who did that it was the XB gamers, they're just trying to displace blame now. Keeping lying to yourself. Do you feel better now?

“and whatever diofield was”

that right there is why SE didn’t even bother. even someone like you who knows many context about SE titles said that, imagine what the average pew pew bros think.

You are St. Matthew of moral economics...nice

Thats kinda what i meant. Just thought it was implied. Ms did good with getting them to 360 whether they sold like shit or not. Take lost odyssey it would of sold way way better on ps no doubt.

I think alot of you took it to literal.

speaking of Lost Odyssey, I hope they revive it. I'm on fence on jumping in because of that game.

Game Pass is a really high cliff... being on Xbox without a good deal on exclusivity or Game Pass is an economic suicide right now.

@BandarHub now can you list the xbox sale then. Or is it too embarrassing to put it?

@Bandar

You're talking about very niche games, some without much marketing at all,

"It's clear that people are not playing them so it needs to come on gamepass so that people can actually have access to play them."

Ah yes, give a game away for free, what a perfect response to underwhelming sales, while ignoring how niche the games are and how little the marketing was.

"In the meantime, a shadow-dropped game Hifi Rush reaches 2 Million gamers whereas games that are exclusive to Japanese consoles are not even reaching 100k in sales."

Story of Xbox these days, they have to give a game away to fill gamepass for it to gain any traction. Wonder how many of those players resulted in sales and/or revenue.