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Redfall developer working to U-turn on single-player always online restriction

Redfall developer Arkane is "working actively" to remove the game's always-online requirement when playing strictly in single-player mode.

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sparky771149d ago

Good for them for listening, was a deal breaker for a lot of people.

Obscure_Observer1149d ago (Edited 1149d ago )

Lol! Let´s see which excuses they´ll come up with to hate on this game now! XD

Xbox killing yet another fanboy DRM BS narrative.

RpgSama1149d ago

I mean, it was a fair complaint at the time, not a "DRM BS narrative", the game WAS always online. Once they remove it then really good for them to listen to their customers.

Godmars2901149d ago

But they're only fixing something because of complaints. The same complaint that damaged the XB1's launch if no full run.

darkrider1149d ago

It need to be good...

Fanboy narrative, nope Microsoft scummy narrative. Something that blind followers don't like to talk about...

-Foxtrot1149d ago

“ Let´s see which excuses they´ll come up with”

Says the guy who comes up for excuses for every single little thing MS or Phil does

Obscure_Observer1149d ago

@RpgSama

"I mean, it was a fair complaint at the time, not a "DRM BS narrative", the game WAS always online. Once they remove it then really good for them to listen to their customers."

Agreed. My point is, if the studio is listen to its costumers and making an U-turn in all this always online crap is obviously because there´s no a DRM enforcement policy at place at Xbox Game Studios.

Studios are free to do what they want with their games.

EvertonFC1149d ago

What you mean all those Xbox gamers who ran a mille after the Xbox one reveal for always online.
Both playstation and Xbox gamers have rallied against always online, stop being a gaming fanny ffs.

Obscure_Observer1149d ago

@-Foxtrot

"Says the guy who comes up for excuses for every single little thing MS or Phil does"

At least I´m honest and stay true to my opinions to this day, unlike you that always trashed Xbox and Phil, asked by his head and now is here for Xbox first party games under his tenure and probably will buy his console as well if you didn´t do it already.

I won´t be surprised by your hypocrisy though. ;)

SierraGuy1149d ago

Lmao 😂 Xbox behind the scenes pushing always online watching closely for backlash before backing off like the bi*&es they are.

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blacktiger1149d ago

You are applauding because they listen? Why? Was it hard to even know that having is not a good idea?

Obscure_Observer1149d ago

"You are applauding because they listen? Why?"

Yes, unlike Polyphony they listened to their customers and Xbox is not opposing Arkane´s decision either. So yes, both Arkane and Xbox Games Studios deserves praise to listen to Xbox gamers.

TricksterArrow1149d ago

It was my only real gripe, will pick it up now. The game looks fun. I only hope it's legit fun, though, not Back 4 Blood fun.

gangsta_red1149d ago

Well, now there's no excuse for the people that were on the fence only because of it being....always online.

Obscure_Observer1149d ago

Well, Foxtrot still needs to be convinced that it´s not a co-op focused game. Haha.

-Foxtrot1149d ago (Edited 1149d ago )

Lmao

First of all calling me out like that…how sad

Secondly if you want to go down that road I could literally comb through this website to show people all the bullshit you’ve spewed, and I’m sure others could aswell.

Thirdly…it’s not a co-op focused game. Are you just fooling yourself at this point? Have you seen the trailers, the gameplay, marketing…it’s co-op based mate, a co-op game you can play single player but most likely a second thought (thus hardly showing us anything lengthy on it)

Jesus you really are the most insufferable person on this site.

Obscure_Observer1149d ago

@-Foxtrot

"it’s co-op based mate, a co-op game you can play single player but most likely a second thought (thus hardly showing us anything lengthy on it)"

It´s a much co-op based game as Borderlands, Lol.

Feel free to continue on your delusional crusade, dude. I never played a co-op based game which you´re not tied to any squad, and can do whatever you want (including mission and story mode) solo but that´s just me.

ModsDoBetter1149d ago

Whilst I typically disagree with the way in which some people engage in dialogue on this site as it is oftentimes unnecessarily confrontational, I have to say that I agree with @Foxtrot here.

There is absolutely no way that you can look at this game and say it was not built with co-op in mind.

I’m not a fan of the way people feel the need to be aggressive in their responses but your response to Foxtrot claiming it’s a “delusional crusade”…yikes, yeah you deserve to be called out here.

The thing is, if you just had a little break, came back with a calm mindset, you’d maybe realise that you’re setting yourself up for disappointment when release day rolls around and you try to play this game solo. It absolutely was built fRoM tHe GrOuNd Up for co-op.

Listen, I’m as much an Xbox fan as I am PlayStation, not every game has to be a system seller, not every game has to be what you want it to be, it’s okay to say “I’ll still enjoy this game solo” but no, you have to belittle others and say they’re on a “delusional crusade” simply because you’re insecure that your only chosen gaming platform isn’t performing well this gen, like last gen. Totally unnecessary & whilst I do hope you have fun when the game launches, I can bet that you’ll prefer to play this co-op than solo.

Obscure_Observer1149d ago

@oIMyersIo

"The thing is, if you just had a little break, came back with a calm mindset, you’d maybe realise that you’re setting yourself up for disappointment when release day rolls around and you try to play this game solo. It absolutely was built fRoM tHe GrOuNd Up for co-op."

Dude, no offence, but I don´t need your crystal ball predictions when pretty much all gaming media outlets that played 1 hour and half of this game at Arkane´s Redfall event has played it solo.

So if you expect me to get disappointed at this game at launch, well... let´s just say you´ll be the one disappointed.

-Foxtrot1149d ago

@oIMyersIo

Thank You

You want to know why he's like this with me and others? It's because we said something a little bad in a past article and he's become so offended as the game now a part of MS yet he's never let it go

I remember making a comment criticising how despite the fact Arkane has stated that the game is single player because it can be played solo, we've hardly seen much on that. They showed a small light house mission which was edited to chop it's way through the mission showing us quick looks at certain moments yet that was it. All I was saying is show us more because there's a lot of 4 player co-op based games which developers say can be played solo but it ends up not being as good because the focus is for 4 players to work together (like shown in most of the trailers - combing attacks and abilities etc).

Then the always online part happened and at that point (before this) I was like "Well I'm done" and he got more offended over that.

Point is if Microsoft NEVER bought Zenimax and this game wasn't an Xbox exclusive he would not give a shit what people are saying about it.

ModsDoBetter1149d ago

@Obscure

“Dude, no offence, but I don´t need your crystal ball predictions when pretty much all gaming media outlets that played 1 hour and half of this game at Arkane´s Redfall event has played it solo.”

You do see the hypocrisy in your statement, right? You’re over here throwing around baseless claims that the game isn’t intended to be played in co-op despite the fact the LITERAL DEVELOPERS have marketed the game and all gameplay shown has been co-op. “Crystal ball predictions” you also just proved my point about the way people feel the need to be excessively keyboard warrior-y on this site from time to time. Congratulations, you played yourself.

“So if you expect me to get disappointed at this game at launch, well... let´s just say you´ll be the one disappointed.”

I take no pleasure in anyone being disappointed or let down, but that’s part of life. You live and you learn, at least most of us do…

Like I said, I hope you enjoy the game but as the game is tailor made for co-op play, if you’re going into this with the mindset “yay amazing solo game” you will be disappinted.

Obscure_Observer1149d ago

@oIMyersIo

"Like I said, I hope you enjoy the game but as the game is tailor made for co-op play, if you’re going into this with the mindset “yay amazing solo game” you will be disappinted."

How do you call a game which you can play solo from the start to finish a "tailor made for co-op play" game? Are you serious, dude?

Redfall doesn´t even feature AI companions, so, are you implying that I wouldn´t be able to play Redfall in case I don´t have a friend´s squad to play it? Is that it?

If so, you´re out of your mind and completely out of touch on everything related to this game. Period!

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Dandizzle1149d ago (Edited 1149d ago )

For me the generic gameplay and visuals still counts as an excuse. However I might play this game when its free on game pass, or buy it when its on huge discount.

Workshyskiver1149d ago (Edited 1149d ago )

Good to hear but really what developers don't know that this is hated by everyone?

gangsta_red1149d ago

I wouldn't say everyone, because I definitely didn't hate it. It didn't matter to me either way.

JEECE1149d ago

I think it's more about understanding the target audience for your game. I mean, you don't really hear Destiny 2's playerbase complaining about always-online, because it's understood by that audience as part of that type of game, even if you aren't actively playing with other people. The problem with Redfall is that they have been trying to present the game as a single player focused game where co-op is an option but not a necessity. In such a a situation, people expect to be able to play offline.

Elda1149d ago

Good to know that they're listening.

SimpleSlave1149d ago

How noble of them. I imagine it wasn't so much the backlash but the size of it. As in not many people cared enough to hate the decision to be always online and even less cared enough to defend it. But we'll see I guess. Coming straight to Gamepass it'll probably end up with 7 Trillions hours played or something like that.

Gotham Knights
The Suicide Squad
Redfall

PS3/XBOX360 era Fruity Loots by design gameplay is still the future for some it seems. Awesome!

Tacoboto1149d ago

One of those games isn't even Games as a Service
Another one is delayed till sometime because of massive backlash due to its glorification of being GaaS.

And then we have Redfall, which isn't a superhero game, has no microtransactions, no in-game store, and whose gameplay impresses based on virtually all of today's previews.

SimpleSlave1149d ago (Edited 1149d ago )

All three games are 4 player Co-Op designed games that because of the backlash they were forced to change. All three games are designed with the colorful loot motif made ever so popular during the PS3/XBOX360 era. Where this was very prevalent in a lot of games. And then perfected during the PS4/XBOXONE era with similarly garbage UI.

As for Redfall, buddy, have YOU seen the gameplay? Cuz it IS indeed out there for you to look at and let me tell ya, it looks beyond meh. But whatev. Also, please, unless they're paying you, stop regurgitating the press info like that. It's just not a good look is all I'm saying. But you do you.

One last thing. Where did I say all three were Superhero games? I know, for a FACT, that Redfall is NOT a superhero game. Duh! Obvs! Redfall is about a group of beings with powers trying to take down vampire bad guys. Completely different to a superhero game. Like POLAR opposites I would say...Right? Wouldn't you agree?
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Tacoboto1149d ago

Gotham Knights is not only not GaaS, it's also only a two player game. Do you actually know what you're complaining about? None of these games are similar in gameplay or tone and only one is released.

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Concord, Suicide Squad, Fairgame$ And ‘Vibes-Based’ Failures

Paul Tassi: "Sony recently reiterated its commitment to live service games with one big hit last year (Helldivers 2), one big cancellation (The Last of Us Factions) and one big failure (Concord). It’s no great surprise it is continuing down this road, given the way the industry is trending and the limited shelf life of its famed single player games. But it immediately made me think of a game that Sony is allegedly releasing that I have to believe is pre-destined to fail, Fairgame$."

Alos88497d ago

Fairgame$ feels like it's destined to flop out the gate- that initial trailer felt full of that same instantly-dated 'fight The Man with a ragtag team of weirdos' energy that was prevalent in Sega's Hyenas (which they wisely cancelled.) Unlike Marathon I just don't see this standing a chance.

Nacho_Z497d ago

It will definitely flop, missed the boat by a couple of years. Agreed that Marathon has a decent chance of succeeding it looks genuinely good and interesting.

It can't be sustainable having all these expensive GaaS being DOA being balanced by the odd modest success like Helldivers. The aim is to find the new Fortnite or whatever but it's highly unlikely and seems to be a massive waste of money.

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Concord and the Other Biggest Flops of This Generation

Some of the biggest success stories in the history of gaming have happened during this generation of gaming. At the same time, some of the biggest flops in the history of gaming have also happened during this generation of gaming. To this end, a few games particularly stick out as, unfortunately, disastrous flops for those who made the games, sold the games, and ultimately, for many that played the games.

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ChasterMies614d ago

What a strange, short list. There have been many more games that arrived DOA, were never released, didn’t make their budget back, etc. Why cherry pick these games? Is this list based on the size of internet hate boners?

EternalTitan614d ago

These flops have a similarity that you may not be allowed to point out.

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127maXimus614d ago (Edited 614d ago )

Skull and Bones gets my vote, at this point just completely remake AC Black Flag. If the Concord developers had made the game free to play, and toned down the in your face messaging via the mods and design choices, this game could have been serviceable eventually. I never understand why pandering to 5% of your audience and giving the finger to the other 95% seems like a good idea to these people. They never seem to learn. Disney has lost 1/3rd of its value and they keep doubling down on political messaging. I don’t get it.

BlackTar187614d ago

Some of these companies are paid huge amounts of money to do this stuff. They get truck loads of money to give “the message”
By blackrock and vanguards and multiple other venture capitalists even though it’s been proven over and over they fail.

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Redfall's final update, which adds an Offline Mode, is available and it's 16GB in size

Arkane Austin has just released Game Update 4, the final patch for Redfall which is 16GB in size and adds an Offline Mode.

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PassNextquestion714d ago

I'm not interested in this game but i think it's great they added the offline mode for those who are.

darthv72713d ago

It was okay at first... once they added the performance update it was definitely better.

TwoPicklesGood713d ago

Bury this turd. It’s only good as a reminder of what devs shouldn’t do.

mkis007713d ago

I hate the concept of an announced final update.