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Does The Next Nintendo Console Need To Step It Up?

Nintendo loves to think outside the box with their game consoles but should the next Nintendo console prioritize more powerful hardware?

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jambola1241d ago

the sales and overpriced games say
no
people will keep supporting it looks like

blackblades1240d ago

Exactly, some of us would like them to come to modern times but they are doing just fine what they are doing with $ wise, games, awards etc.They sitting there with popcorn watching the drama of you know what going on around it.

gamerz1240d ago

They aren't watching or even aware of anything but counting money stacks. Even if somehow one of their executives glanced at a gaming blog they wouldn't care in the slightest. As long as the $ keeps rolling it they don't see, hear or care about anything else.

DarXyde1240d ago

Maybe.

The Switch was impressive when it came out because no portable was pushing anything like that. Seriously, it ran Doom and The Witcher III, albeit with cutbacks, portably. That was unheard of.

Now, we have Steam Deck and Ayaneo. In my view, it can be less powerful if* it is a true, natural evolution of their hardware. If it is pretty much just a more capable Switch, then yeah, they really need to pack much more power into it.

It would never happen, but if Nintendo partnered with Valve to allow Steam on Nintendo's next device, that would be legendary.

VariantAEC1234d ago

Switch was never impressive. By the time it launched in March of 2017 The Qualcomm Snapdragon 835 was already in some smartphones and the Samsung Galaxy S8 was less than 2 months away from launch. I showed Alien: Isolation running on my personal Samsung Galaxy S8 about a year ago now on Android 9 I showed GRID Autosport even earlier. Those two Feral Interactive ports are effectively the best looking games on Switch even outdoing the PS4 and PC versions with some settings! But even that being considered their smartphone ports are even better!
On top of that... GRID: Autosport and Alien: Isolation were never top teir games really pushing graphical boundaries of any kind, there's no reason why Alien: Isolation does not run at native 1080p60 on base model Xbox One's and PS4's they were originally made and released for PS3 and Xbox 360 even their PC demos looked bland at the time they were planning a PS3/X360 launch... just plain old Sega stink on that release.

Codemasters made GRID Autosport in 2014 for PS3, Xbox 360 and PC... Why did they do that? No one knows! So neither title for as good as they look on Switch were stellar looking on their OG target HW.

Meanwhile today just 5 years after Switch's launch you have games on phones running at higher resolutions than most PS4 and Xbox One games at 60FPS with better settings... like Alien: Isolation and maybe Fortnite at this point and that's basically all for now, but critically they wound up looking better on phones day one of Switch's launch than they did on Nintendo Switch.

cthulhucultist1240d ago

One thing I realized after getting a Steamdeck after 5 years of switch heavy duty usage, is how much money I can save with Steam Sales in comparison to switch sales. Nintendo first party never offer over 30% percentage discount and their sales are not that frequent.

Even worse, not all their games are on sale each time! Therefore you must wait many months if not years for a specific game to be on sale and only at 30%.

In addition all third party games play better on Steam Deck and enjoy frequent and better sales. Mortal Shell only just released on Switch suffering a huge downgrade and is already at sale on Steam Deck (superior version as well) for 7,49 euros. Numerous examples like this one.

Witcher 3 cost 9 euros on Steam during sales, whereas on switch it cost on sale 20 euros despite being significantly worse as a port.

So yes I agree that the value proposition of the console has diminished and it now serves as indie and first party console only.

MadLad1240d ago

Welcome to the PC ecosystem.
I always talk about how sales had on PC storefronts, as well as the fact you're not forced to pay money just to play online really does shoot down the idea that console gaming is so much cheaper than just going PC.

blackblades1240d ago

Thats just Nintendo store sales sucking, I know ps sales is about equal to steam sales or you can find physical sales of the games being cheap. Like my walmart has cyberpunk at $11 was $5 at bestbuy, RnC ps5 I got for $16 at Wal-Mart, and last year nioh collection ps5 was $7 while ps4 was $3. Epic games stores on the other hand be having free games every month. Anyways I looked into mini pcs and now looking at different pc handhelds for many many things, steam, epic, emulation, mobile, remote play etc steam deck or other is good 2nd system for me.

FinalFantasyFanatic1240d ago

@Blackblades,
Agree fully, Nintendo Eshop sales suck, during the 2 years of the height of the pandemic was pretty good for Nintendo store sales, frequent sales were abundant and included alot of games. Now they're back to being stingy, I also agree that alot of PS store's sales rivial Steam's sales, normally there's only a few dollars difference between the two for the same games.

At one stage I was deciding between getting a game as a portable for Switch or getting better graphics (PC/PS4), now alot of those games are just going to my Steam wishlist until I finally get a Steam Deck.

MadLad1240d ago

@blackblades

There's many legitimate storefronts that undersell even Steam. Even when they're actual Steam keys.
They'll sometimes have keys for console platforms, but they're few and far between by comparison.

GotGame8181240d ago

You aren't going to see MK8 for sale on Steam. 1st party Nintendo games are the main reason to even own one.

talocaca1240d ago

I think the bar when it comes to hardware with Nintendo is so ridiculously low that any improvement will feel like a win.

It's sad but finally they Switch is clearly hurting game development. Bayonetta 3 deserved MUCH better hardware.

We also never got the virtual console we deserved.

MadLad1240d ago

This is why I just emulate their stuff anymore. I grew up with and loved Nintendo, but it seems like they don't even try any more. They want minimal effort and maximum profit.

The Steam Deck emulates most Switch games better than they actually run on Switch hardware even.

badz1491239d ago

emulation is the way to go imo if you want the max out of your game purchases for the Switch. IF you buy the games of course, not going aarrr...matey!

MadLad1239d ago

@badz

I legitimately buy the games I want to emulate and then gift them to my niece and nephew who have a switch.

RaiderNation1240d ago

Ummm isnt that the whole point of doing a next console?

BrainSyphoned1240d ago

One day they will truely join the 8th gen.

Eidolon1240d ago

I think if they tried, they could match at least the base PS4, power wise.

badz1491239d ago

that's the most they will do for the Switch successor. to at least match the original PS4

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You Didn’t Just Buy a Console. You Joined an Ecosystem

Modern consoles aren’t one-time purchases. How PlayStation, Nintendo, and Xbox keep you inside their ecosystems.

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Nintendo wants to avoid Switch 2 scalping by making enough for demand

President Shuntaro Furukawa says he doesn’t think component shortages will be an issue due to new plan.

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ZycoFox684d ago

Probably be using 3+ year old chips by the time it launches

Tacoboto683d ago

The 2017 Switch is based on the 2015 Tegra X1 so even if Nintendo is using technology from 2022, that alone still represents a significant improvement.

Outside_ofthe_Box683d ago

How many decades has it been since Nintendo consoles been about power?

Inverno683d ago

Should open pre-orders through the E-shop for a period before making it available through stores. And now that COVID is out the way, you can make in store preorders mandatory too. People interested wouldn't have much of an issue driving by if it meant keeping scalpers at bay for a bit.

CrimsonWing69683d ago

I mean, the problem is these a-holes have bots that eat up every sites inventory. Then they sell it on eBay for stupid prices. No matter what you try to do we’re still going to have to fight through these human pieces of sh*t to get these damn consoles at launch.

phoenixwing683d ago (Edited 683d ago )

Well I'll either see if I can get one online against bots or wait till they're saturated and buy in a brick and morter store. Waiting isn't an issue anyway I have enough games to wait out the shortage

FinalFantasyFanatic682d ago (Edited 682d ago )

I can't really understand people rushing out to buy a console at release, I'll wait a year, two years, etc... until I can walk into a store and buy one if I have to, I'm not paying scalper prices.

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Are the Console Wars Over? Welcome to the Handheld Wars.

Looks like the epic console wars might be coming to an end, and a new battlefield is heating up: the Handheld Wars. With heavy hitters like the Steam Deck, Lenovo Legion Go, and the trusty Nintendo Switch, portable gaming is taking the spotlight. These handhelds bring the power of consoles to your hands, offering a variety of gaming experiences for both casual and hardcore gamers. While PlayStation, Xbox, and Nintendo aren't going anywhere, the rise of handheld gaming is giving us more ways to play than ever before.

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darthv72708d ago

console wars are stupid to begin with... let alone handheld wars.

GameGeeked708d ago

Console wars, and possibly handheld wars, may seem silly, but they persist because there will always be passionate fan.

darthv72708d ago

Being passionate about the games is fine. The plastic boxes... not so much.

InUrFoxHole706d ago

Passionate is one thing. But fans went full retard

Cacabunga706d ago

Darth

You need some kind of plastic box to play them games.. and people tend to choose the best one. Console wars allows games and consoles to reach new heights.

S2Killinit706d ago

You really don't get to speak. Come on.

Ironmike706d ago (Edited 706d ago )

S2killinit u just as bad

S2Killinit706d ago (Edited 706d ago )

@Ironmike
I’m not as relentless as some on here. In fact, I only respond in kind and I got pulled into this site after seeing how some commenters were always rushing in to be the first comment and detail conversations in favor of their box. Now that their console of choice is doing badly, they preach kumbaya. Just saying.

crazyCoconuts706d ago

Is it implied that "console wars" refers to the fans warring vs. the war the platform holders are constantly in?
Obviously the platform holders have been at war and will be as long as they have to compete for our dollars.

ravens52706d ago

They're fine, as long as you know this isn't REAL. I can say how much distaste I have for MS but still have a best friend that only games on Xbox. Its not that serious .

Charlieboy333706d ago (Edited 706d ago )

Darth, do you not have preferences for certain things in life ? You know like a certain brand of phone, car, clothing, restaurant, etc.

Or are you one of those boring limp people that like to sit on the fence with everything because the 'conflict' is too much for you to handle?

There is fuckall wrong with having a console war....it keeps things fun and interesting. Well unless you're a supporter of Xbox that is.

Most of the intelligent self respecting Xbox supporters have jumped ship and all that's left now are the mouth breathing knuckle draggers.

Ironmike706d ago (Edited 706d ago )

So u resort to insults to win argument, u already lost bro .

Charlieboy333706d ago

@ Ironmike Whatever you say sunshine.....yawn

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Knightofelemia708d ago

Console wars were great when it was SNES vs Genesis. Was always a great topic in the school yard. You got the Genesis port the friend got the SNES port. Always fun to compare who was better. I always looked forward after the school week and rent a game for the SNES. Now the console wars are pretty much done and over with PS3 vs XB360 was pretty much the last of the console wars. Anything after that is pretty much one sided with almost everybody going PS4 and PS5. To me the console wars started to drop after the PS3 and XB360 ran their course. Be interesting to see the handheld wars I am in the market for a new handheld system.

GameGeeked708d ago

The SNES vs Genesis days were definitely memorable. I was lucky to have both consoles :) It's interesting to see how the focus is shifting now. Handheld wars could bring back some of that excitement. Which handheld system are you considering?

anast706d ago

I was on the Genesis side. We see how well that went.

RaiderNation706d ago

I had both but I preferred the Genesis for the sports games and I liked Sega's 6 button controller better for fighting games. That D pad was a godsend to pull off Street Fighter moves!

RaiderNation706d ago (Edited 706d ago )

The "golden age" of gaming to me was between 1995 and 2000 when it was a 3 horse race between Sony, Nintendo, and Sega. For me, there WAS no console war because I genuinely loved all 3 platforms, with each bringing something unique to the table. I miss that era.

anast706d ago

I switched to Sony day 1.

PhillyDonJawn706d ago

Anast, no one would've ever thought that about you. Totally surprising news/s

Fist4achin706d ago (Edited 706d ago )

Mortal Kombat was superior on the genesis!

FinalFantasyFanatic706d ago

It also helps that back then, they used very different hardware, today's consoles have very similar internals to each other, especially modern Playstations and Xboxes.

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fsfsxii706d ago

Handheld wars aka which system is gimped more and destroys your hands faster.

anast706d ago

I would say with the defeat of Xbox and Nintendo being it's own thing in family friendly handheld gaming, the console wars are over. For those of us that enjoy that kind of entertainment and are aware of this aspect, it was fun while it lasted.

There is no handheld war Nintendo owns the handheld landscape.

-Foxtrot706d ago

" There is no handheld war Nintendo owns the handheld landscape "

If the Xbox handheld is true I won't how it will do against Nintendo, even Sony couldn't keep up and the PSP was fantastic

RaiderNation706d ago (Edited 706d ago )

The Steamdeck has currently sold around 3 million worldwide. A handheld Xbox would be lucky to double that. As others have suggested, there IS no handheld war. Nintendo owns it.

Ironmike706d ago

The defeat of xbox my god u for real it's a console u talking g like its real war the defeat that's saddest statement I read in here

anast706d ago

"that's saddest statement I read in here"

Your not very self aware. I get it.

The Wood706d ago

The xbox as a console is a shadow of what it was during the 360 era. IF the term war offends you then I guess that you lean towards the green brand.. Just a guess mind you.. Regardless, the brand has been mismanaged for way too long and that's a key factor as to why the gappage as increased yoy between it and its closest rival.

DarXyde706d ago

In a handheld war, Nintendo cannot be beaten.

PSP was a surprisingly robust effort, and it came the closest... While doing half as well as the DS.

badz149706d ago

closest? By any metric imaginable, it was not even close. it's easy to assume the that the PSP might as well be considered a success but it sold over 80mil vs over 150mil by the DS. It was not until the failure of Wii U, Xbone and Vita did people finally realize how well the PSP actually did. before all those, it was generally called a failure by many, considering how badly the DS crushed it in sales.

NotoriousWhiz706d ago

If the PSP's 80 million isn't a success, then what is the 3DS' 75 million?

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