so is this a win for playstation or microsoft? i wish i had 400gb 5 layer discs......

ahaahahah fvck bluegay we don't need that sh!t ahahahah

Becuase only True Next Gen consoles use Blu-Ray

Just for gaming, but it will have a blu-ray lazer for movies...

Liek a PC combo drive that plays HD-DVD's and Blu-Gays...

HD-DVD loads faster, stores more, costs less, and doesn't require MANDANTORY INSTALLS the way Blu-Gay does on the PS3rd...

"When Sony first announced that they would be using the new Blu-Ray format for the PlayStation 3 Microsoft stated that Blu-Ray is a format that is not needed for gaming. This has obviously been proven wrong over the past years with the recent success of the Blu-Ray format. "

Proven wrong? are you mad? Both the nintendo wii and the x360 dont use blu ray but both are outselling the ps3. The only advantage blu ray has in gaming is disk space which some may argue is counted by slow reading speeds and forced installs.

The "success of blu ray is only down to the ps3, from what i gather (and i could be wrong) the stand alone players arent doing as well as sony would have liked

The sum-total of this artical is something like this "Microsoft was wrong about blu-ray, so they're going to throw their toys out of the pram next time in order to try and stick it to Sony".

This is absurd, Microsoft couldn't care less if Sony owns the BR format, it's not like Microsoft has their own disk format that they'd compete with. Sure, they backed HD-DVD, but so did a lot of people and back in the day, it was anyone's guess as to which format would "win". Microsoft will pick whatever suits their console best, from both a technical perspective AND a cost perspective. They went with DVDs because they're cheap and fast, Sony went with Blu-Ray to try and launch the format - gaming was a secondary consideration because they knew the disks would read slowly.

But by the time the next generation swings around, BR drives will have matured fast enough that read speeds wont be an issue, already you can get retail drives that read faster than drives that are twice the speed of the 360's drive. Right now, if anyone was going to launch a new console, it would make sense to opt for Blu-ray, but we'll see how it goes down the line.

However, even if Blu-Ray died tomorrow, as a video format, it'd still be extremely viable as a game format and since we're hearing of disks with 4, 5 and 6 layers, it makes sense to use it.

you forgot about porn.....have you seen tropic thunder? nice monolouge about this very subject

Why can't Xbox 720 use blu-ray? Obviously physical media isn't going away anytime. With 400 GB blu-ray discs, there is no reason not to use the blu-ray format. I think of it this way: Sony uses Windows in their computers...Microsoft can use blu-ray in their next console. I don't think any company is above making money and avoiding more R&D. If Microsoft invests, and develops a new format, they have to recoup the cost of developing said format and hope it wins. Not smart. I wouldn't mind blu-ray for every next-gen console and think it will pan out that way.

"The reason I say this is because Microsoft is a company that does not handle defeat very well and if they are defeated they will do anything in their power to defeat their competitor next go round. They will not just go into the next console generation settling with the format that defeated them. Obviously, the HD-DVD format lost to Blu-Ray this generation but do not be surprised if Microsoft goes at it again.

I would not be surprised if Microsoft went after another new format next generation just like Sony did with the PlayStation 3."

microsoft defeated in format war? microsoft supported HD-DVD and all but it wasn't their war. the war was more Toshiba vs Sony than anything. as a business, i can't see why the next xbox shouldn't support bluray unless its still too expensive at that time. the same way i can't see sony vaios not supporting windows

i don't think bluray is necessary, but it is a BIG BIG PLUS for me(my PS3 is also my bluray player). hopefully, they come out with a faster drive to make better use of it in the future

look a ps3 software sales as proof. neither bluray nor other formats are going to be needed in the future. pretty obvious that everything is gonna be about digital distribution. or is there still anyone who buys his music on discs? not many, that's for sure.

agrreed however i own it on blu ray which i love and you seem to hate...whatever will we do?

Because we only get this type of article 50x a week.

blu ray was only one of reasons i got a ps3,first was the games ,sony has some great games now and even better to come.ps3,s 2009 2010 line up pawns my 360,s line up,they have got killzone 2 ,uncharted 2, god of war, grand turismo, final fantasty versus etc etc, even if all these games were multiplat i would still buy a ps3,the reason being bluray ,theres no way i would except 4,5,6 discs to play a game, that isn,t hd gaming thats last gen ps2 stuff.sony was smart including bluray in there machine, mgs4 shows off the true value of blu ray better than any game out so far,i think ps3 is only an infant in terms of where its going as of my 360 i hate to say it but its starting to look obsolute already.

Nothing else will come out to challenge it....we will be in a recession for 10 years...nobody will try and come up with a challenging format...they will just update bluray to 6 layers or more for more space and use faster drives.....DD will never take over because the brick and mortar stores will want to sell games.

Bluray will be in the 720 and PS4 and in most PCs and Macs...

Will the xbox 720 fail like the 360?

Agree = yes
Disagree = no

PS3 is only good for blu ray, its the cheapest and best blu ray player on market.

If you want to play games buy a xbox360.

Thats it.

Anyone who thinks the mircosoft wouldn't use Blu Ray tech for next XBOX is fool. There will not be another format for years to come not when a majority of games are still using only single layer Blu Ray disc. Than there a some people who believe downloading game will be the future well out of 28 million owners 14 million people who are register up for live, and in a perfect world if all those 14 m people brought 2 games the number and the $$$ signs don't add up. This business is about money its not about keep fanboys happy so while your all watching blu ray sales it would be the safe and most cost effective bet of any future console.

Dear Mankind,

Why settle for less

Someone who can see past their nose regarding the current generation. PlayStation fans will always say that "Blu-Ray" is the standard for media optical discs. Yes, it's true that it's the "highest quality" of current media optical discs, but according to the latest sales figures, DVD is still PWNING the sh*t out of Blu-Ray.

And what's sad is that DVD SUCKS! Blu-Ray isn't amazing, and its getting outsold by a format that is already so f*cking old. The problem here isn't Blu-Ray, or DVD. It's society.

Why do we always settle for less?

BOMB DVD
BOMB BLU-RAY

It's all guess work, and pretty poor guesswork at that. Microsoft might very well use Blu-Ray in their next console. When's that due, 2012?

Blu-Ray is not a proven success, that "[Blu-Ray] is a format that is not needed for gaming" has not been proven wrong given the vast majority of games do not reside on a Blu-Ray disk.

The author of the article mangles HD-DVD and standard DVD, confusing the two. Does anyone really think HD-DVD lost to BD due to technical specifications?

"if they are defeated they will do anything in their power to defeat their competitor next go round"
Like every other company on the face of the earth then, but even this is misleading. Sony are one of the founding members of the DVD Forum, Microsoft will pay them a cut of DVD royalties anyway, why would they be so averse to doing the same if and when Blu-Ray becomes the new standard?

The article is nothing but poorly formed guesswork masquerading as expert opinion through the purchase of a domain name. N4G needs a system for burying such stories.

BluRay is not needed for games - it's good for movies

take Dead Space for example - this game looks much better than MGS4 and fits on a standard DVD9

Why not distribute on usb flash drives? By then they will be cheap to make. It would be ironic.... like going back to cartridges.

Microsoft has already publicly mused that their new console would be a cheaper "digital distribution hub". The buzz I've been hearing around investment circles is that MS may get out of the hardware altogether after the 360 has run it's course and instead focus their games division on Software, traditionally their stronger side. I could understand the big brains around the boardroom ponder this after 2 gens that, when all the dust settles, don't look like they'll have made a dime. Personally I think that would be a wasted opportunity after having established the Xbox brand. But maybe that's part of the problem. Perhaps the reason that the 360 is down 7% in sales in the US this year is because of the brand - and the negative connotations that RROD has brought to the brand. Just a few thoughts on the matter.

With Chris Nolan last nigh on BD Live? it was awesome, I hope more of this can happen in the near future.

Here is a link to read the story

http://www.aintitcool.com/n...

Dvd9 or bluray anyway?
lets go back to CDroms or better yet lets go back to
cartridges
there u have it xbox 720 and ps4 games on cartridges

They'll have to go completely digital and bundle a huge HDD and sacrifice a lot of potential consumers. Besides, Blu-ray will be last-gen by then unless it supports more layers than it currently does on PS3.

CAN WE GET A FILTER ON BLOGS FROM PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT...

sry for caps ^_^;

Creating a new format and putting it in the PS3 cost SONY their market share in the gaming industry to win a format war. Making a new format is VERY expensive, it involves alot of R&D. Money not spending if you cant recoup it beyond video games.

And dont get me started on digital downloads. There are alot of games that cant be downloaded via the web even if we had the option too. Who in the hell wants to download 10-40gig files? I sure dont. Games wont get smaller they will get bigger, todays broadband in NA is a joke. Fiber optic connections are at least 10 years away from mainstream adoption. Digital downloads will become common place for handhelds, for consoles we are still light years away.

Because Microsoft is stupid and too full of themselves. They would rather hobble together a sub-standard piece of hardware that fails when you look at it funny. All this to be able to release it to market as quick as possible to get a jump on the competition.

Gee, sounds a lot like the XBox 360.

I love the way fanboys can justify something based on the article of another 10 year old fanboy. Hundreds of games are released that fit onto one DVD9 fine and people focus on the 3 or 4 that needed multiple disc. All because Sony says Blu-ray is needed. And of course Sony says that because it's true, and not because they stand to make billions if they can fool people into making the switch. But the real proof is that all of Sony's exclusives contain 100 hours worth of gameplay. And everyone knows 100 hour games can not fit on a DVD9. That's only possible with Blu-ray.

And as for HD-DVD, it was cheaper than Blu-ray in every way. So all of the people who paid $26 for Dark Knight(or $40 when it goes back up to regular price) most likely would have been paying $20 if HD DVD had won the format war since Toshiba wouldn't need to rip the customer because the product has cost them so much money.

Did Atari cartridges fit in a Coleco Vision?

Did Sega cartridges fit in a Nintendo?

When the went cd, did Sony use a special black cd, while Nintendo used a cartridge?

Last gen while Sony and MS used dvd, did Nintendo use a special little disc?

This gen while Nintendo ans MS use dvd9, does Sony use somthing different?

If you answered yes thruthfully to all those questions, then you know consoles are not limited like movies and can use whatever custom format they wish. MS and Nintendo will not use Blu-ray next gen, they will again use thier own custom format. There is more than one large storage option to choose from. Do you realy think MS and Nintendo are going to pay a competitor royalties when they don't have to? I don't know why so many Sony fans want MS to go Blu but it's not going to happen, wake up and smell the ashes.

we wouldnt be seeing games like mgs4 and killzone2, in my opinion

the devs need the storage and i dont think they would favour using multiple discs

This is obvious since MS has money to make it's own proprietary tech and they are good at software for sure,,but hardware wise they better do something like pay toshiba or something for the tech!!!

I think if the next xbox doesn't have blu-ray then they are making the wrong choice, everyone is getting to the point that they know blu-ray is the way forwad and Microsoft better pick up on this unless they want to go for digital downloads which is unlikely but thats another matter for the future

hahahaha sonyfans mad ms not gonna use bluegay ahahahhah i always knew sonyslave cared for ms ahahah

This guy sounds like a f*cking 6th grader with the way he writes. "The reason I say this is...". Jesus Christ. Whoever buys into this moron's sh*t is a bigger moron than the author of that piece of crap.

You have got to think they are going to use a larger medium than DVD9 in the next xbox and since some people buy a games console to also play movies then you have got to think that they will go with blu-ray. I guess if they didn't want movie support then they could use HD-DVD.

Consoles shouldn't play movies, it should play GAMES! If your to cheap to buy a blu-ray player of a dvd player you don't deserve to watch movies.

sony profit off of microsoft using blu-ray. i remember seeing that somewhere

It wouldn't be the first time that a console does not use an format.

* You don't remember? Sega DreamCast didn't use DVD but used GD-ROOM which was a lot better than CDs and had more capacity.

* The wii still does not offer DVD movie playback and people are still buying it like crazy.

I think Microsoft will and should use HD DVD if they do not have to play royalties. HD DVD is already researched and a proven technology and it's just there doing nothing.

Microsoft can add blu-ray movie only playback and avoid completely having to pay royalties for Games released in blu-ray since they had a big pie of HD DVD and probably do not even have to pay royalties.

Having games on HD DVD also give them an extra layer against Piracy... by the time the next xbox comes out... blu-ray writable drives will be all over... but HD DVD writable drives will be no where to be found.

Microsoft can add blu-ray movie playback which means that people can watch blu-ray movies if they want to.. and Microsoft can probably put a fee on top of those that care to watch blu-ray movies on their consoles...

Blu-Ray needed for Games? NO... What games needs is more space to store data... in order to avoid releasing games in multiple discs... simple as that... blu-ray or not.

but can the PS3 regular DVDs even though it is a blu-ray player. If not, then I'm really not that interested in blu-ray on the next Xbox. I'm not sure what they'll use, but I feel that right now the BRD isn't needed.

Of course, if by then Sony forces blu-ray everyone to use only blu-ray for movies, then whatever. They've done similar things in the past.

I love my Xbox 360, but is Xbox in denial? They better put in a blue-ray player on their next console.

why do people not want blu-ray? its a better storage medium than dvd9, and that is all that matters. I dont care if ps4 didnt use it, as long as the storage capabilities are there for the games. Some of you are just against it because of your fanboyism.

First off, the entire thing was speculation. There was no insider information, no interviews with Microsoft or anyone representing Blu-ray, no actual journalism. The entire thing was the poorly written opinion of...who? Where is the author's name? What are his credentials? This isn't news, its opinion.

Whether or not Microsoft adopts blu-ray is completely up in the air right now. I love my Xbox 360 and I love watching Blu-ray on my beautiful PS3. Will Microsoft move to blu-ray? Maybe. Will they stick with DVD but place a humongous Hard Drive in the next system and heavily emphasize digital distribution? Only time will tell, but this article didn't provide any more information than we had before we read it.

I like the idea of cloud-based, "steam"-like gaming.
I think it could be awesome for all, unless you dont have "them internets".
Prolly atleast 3-4 years away, but it would be the best thing ever.
Memory storage is already piss-cheap, so if MS would climb out of their MONEY TREE, they could provide cheap memory storage options for the console, that way you could store some games and content for offline play(if the network went down or something). But yeah, cloud-computing is already making waves in the PC industry. Steam is an insanely popular service for PC Gamers, so to say the idea wouldnt work on console, would be stupid. May not work NOW, but it would work.

EDIT: physical media is still gonna be around. i mean the MP3 is top dawg in the music industry, but there are still plenty of places that sell CDs and are doing well still. maybe having a blu-ray rive wouldnt be such a bad idea. but we've gone beyond blu-ray's resolution capabilities. we're looking into 1920p and beyond. maybe one of these new tech advances will make its way into the xb720, and maybe it will even be compatible with blu-ray discs. you never know, this world is a crazy place, and the advances we've made in the past decade, are simply amazing. never rule ANYTHING out.

Why is a stupid opinion article that really is so short and devoid of facts news whatsoever? All this dude said is "Um erm I think Microsoft will try a different format again" wow NEWSFLASH!! Duh, they don't want to give Sony any royalties.

I'm getting real tired of these four-paragraph speculations from these unheard of websites.

but based on this statement, 'this has obviously been proven wrong over the past years with the recent success of the Blu-Ray format' which seems to have nothing to do with THE GAMES I'm inclined to disagree anything the article has to say.

if blu-ray gains momentum to the point that it becomes the dominant format, I don't see how MS could avoid using it in their next machine. unless, that is, they go without a disc drive at all...

They believe in digital distro, ok cool, so does SONY. On top of this your telling me that people who own blue ray movies at that time wont say, oh this one can play "MY" movies ive invested in also?? Why all of sudden would consumers not care. They might RENT DLS but they are certainly going to want to play their own current library. Digital Distro is no where near ready for people, dls take to long and high speed is normal enough, and if companies start putting caps on limits, what do you think that will do? Seriously, I have to think MS is all wrong on this one, its about pride with them right now I think.

MSOFT DOES NOT CARE ABOUT IT'S CONSUMERS, OR VIDEO GAMES!! Seriously, if MS wanted to, they could use blu-ray. But why be hononable and make a good running system, with quality parts...to justify the price? The ONLY reason there is not a blu-ray drive in the 360 is because Msoft want's to make as much money on the 360 as possible, WITHOUT having to provide it's customers with a quality product.

This is not HATE words, and although I don't work for Msoft...it sure make since don't it? Look at their track record in the games division. I'm not sure they knew about the "faulty" systems..but I sure didn't hear them denying it with a Defamation lawsuit or anything. Also, they copy everything, but not the blu-ray player..wonder why that is? Everyone wants to make money, so I won't crush soft on this. However, with the amount of money they are worth...why not try to give your fanbase something more than Halo and Gears. (That will only work for so long) No Free wifi, and a small-ass HD? Hey, if the fans will drink the kool-aid, then no one can really hate on MS. I not hatin' on them, just making it known that they are cheap money makers,,,like Walmart. This type of evil has no place in the video games division. (Sega Dreamcast and Atari layed down to this!!?)

What a fascinating, insightful couple of hundred words that was. Totally opened my eyes. FFS.

This is stupid. They are not gonna make another format to compete with Blu-ray because consumers WOULD NOT HAVE IT. There is no way consumers would put down money for yet another new format when Blu-ray is barely a few years old and is still functioning just fine. Not to mention Sony won't be using another format for the PS4 they will most likely be using BLU-Ray again there is no reason not to.

Not to mention the fact that MS is on the side of Digital Downloads so I highly doubt they will waste money on a format that's doomed to fail against Blu-ray.

I think there is 3 ways it will go with the next Xbox. 1 MS uses Blu-ray which is the safest bet. 2 MS makes there own format but it's only for gaming and it's not intended to compete with anything. 3 the console is based solely on downloads.

Out of those the first one is most likely I think as it would be the cheapest solution for MS and considering how much money they have lost on the first 2 Xboxes they Probably want to turn a profit.

MS will not take the risk in developing a new format. MS are not innovators, they rather take an existing succesfull product and improve on it. A console with a new format will HAVE to support existing format for watching movies, and by the time the 720 comes out bluray will be the existing format with dvd dying fast. We`re talking 2011-12.

the reason many sony haters say that blu ray is not needed for gaming is because they are using xbox dvd9 and multi platform games to compare.

when you build a multiplatform game you have to make sure it runs on both systems so you make it built on the lowest common denominator, the dvd9.

when you compare games built on using sony's architecture and blu ray space even the sony hating websites turn the argument to install base, sales and under play the ps3 exclusive.

a good example limitations is Lost Odyssey for the 360.. i just recently bought a used 360 and am playing copied games. i dont find most 360 exclusives that great. but lost odyssey is better than many said it was, I'm really liking this game. its draw back is some loading and that its on 4 discs. beside it being on 4 discs. part of the story is interesting, the hero's past memories has a compelling story. but there is so much reading i'm surprised its not sold separately as an audio book. As i'm burning my fourth discs i realize, that had they put in the attention and taken time to make the memories more cinematic the game would have been on 8 discs.

when you look back at mgs4, lost odyssey could have had the same success as a finished product if it had cinematic story telling as opposed to 5 minutes of text to read per memory.

another is as good as a game like forza 2 is. there is no reason why a racing game like forza 3 has to be on 2 discs.

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as an adult, i like to upgrade my home accordingly. having 2 devices to do a job that 1 device can do is silly to me. when you get a tv, put it on the wall, get a slim nice expensive entertainment stand the less devices the better.

But who's going to save Blu-ray

and I saw that WACK halo wars gameplay on xplay. INFAMOUS ftw!

jump out!

However, I'm not far off base with my logic. NONE OF US knows waht Msoft bisness ideas are, but their approach to gaming remains unchanged. Look at the LACK of effort and innovation by them and teir intentions are clear. TO RIP OFF GAMERS WITH TONS OF RE-HASH HALO'S. GEARS, AND OTHER DEVELOPER IDEAS! You can get mad all you want...this is all backed up by facts. WOW, another Halo..I mean, Halo Rcon and Halo wars. Keep buying from a company that does not care about you as gamers....rather lok at you as sheep. You may not like Wii, Ps2, DS, or ps3...but look at their appraoch to gaming and fans.

360 lowered their price only becase they had to. Gears 2 and L4Dead didn't come out until Nov. 2008...making it's customers wait a WHOLE year...with no other note worthy games in the mix. (WEll, at least for Viva Pinata 2, Too human, and Mass Effect...which all lacked the ideas Msoft promised to deliver.) Most of the 60 fanbase loves blu-ray and most likley, have bought a stand alone player. Also, most hardcore gamers have the 360 wireless adaptor AND 60/120 gig HD. ADD THAT MONEY UP and tell me if you were not taken advantaged of. I don't care what system people chose to buy..hell, there are more than ONE type of car, truck, and SUV to purchase. All I am saying is the MS is not what gamers think, and there are not enough of re-hashes of Halo/Gear's to help. MS blew money on the HD-DVD format, but NOW they CAN"T afford to give their fans the blu-ray drive? C'on you guys have to admit...this is a head scratcher. I undersand Msoft logic...."why give away something when people are gonna pay for it?" Msoft could at least make their own blu-ray player....look at all the brand x systems out there. These guys are rip of artist!

Ok, it might not be "needed" but it has been giving game developers much needed space to make there dreams come to life, I am going to use KILLZONE 2, Uncharted 1 & 2, Heavenly Sword, and Metal Gear Solid 4 as examples. So "needed" maybe not, but BENEFICIAL? most defiantly!

Now, with the whole next Xbox Blu-Ray thing. If Microsoft dose decide not to use Blu-Ray they are going to put themselves in a venerable position, buy the time the next consoles come out at the current market penetration rate Blu-Ray will be the standard storage medium, all the movie studios are already using it, PCs and laptops will have standard Blu-Ray drives, Blu-Ray players will be in the majority of households along with prices going down and however many PS3s are in homes by that point in time.

A new format is not going to be needed until TVs see there next upgrade. I am thinking that is going to be along ways off, and even then Blu-Ray discs are ready to go with bigger discs and we will see faster drive speeds.

Now, the next Xbox could use any format it wants but if they use anything other than Blu-Ray it is going to take away from the value placed in said console. Just my two cent.

There could be a Blu Ray drive in the 720...and it could also support a whole new format for its games.

I pray they don't use Blu Ray...because the read speed still sucks and there is formats out there that are much better 200gb discs cmon are u serious??? Crysis Gear Solid wouldn't even be that long.

There is a disc format out there RDM it's 100GB and uses red laser tech and costs practically nothing more then a regular DVD and has a superb read speed which means....no duping files to increase seek time, and no crappy installs for developers that don't know how to work around it.

Time will tell.

great news for pirates i guess. i think sony used bluray more for the anti piracy aspect of it than anything.

Ever since I bought my PS3 and used the Blu-Ray format, I cannot go back to DVD's because of my problem with scratches on the discs. Every time I see a DVD9 xbox game and try to pick out the best one to sell (I work at Gamestop), they all just down right suck. And I want to give the customer the best looking one because the xb360 sucks at reading scratched discs. When selling a PS3 game, I don't even have to look at the bottom of the disc. Even if there is a scratch on a Blu-Ray, Top side, bottom side, the thing will still work. Now, why is/was DVD or HD-DVD better again?

downloadable content. end of story. and here's why:

a) gta4 dlc will be the testing grounds for how successful this new revenue process will be. if this works well, it's a no brainer.

b) the pc world has used this concept for awhile now with much success (direct2drive).

c) microsoft can charge a fee for usage of their downloadable service to developers

d) cheaper to do - no packaging involved. possibly a drive key would be needed, like a disc in the tray to recognize you own the game.

e) microsoft makes more money from hardware sales due to the need for bigger hard drives.

f) no game size will be too big. download the entire file, no matter how insanely large it may be.

Although I appreciated your response, you have failed to impress me with any real supporting information. 1st off, Sony is selling ok and this whole last place thing is a bit deceiving. How about your do a book report on the last generation of console systems.

After hatin', by people, companies, and magazines off of whom....DON'T EVEN PLAY GAMES, all Sony has done was stay on top! With all the smoke and mirrors you use to hate ps3 with....the fact is, Playstation 2 dominated the Gamecube, Xbox, Dreamcast, and hung with both the PC and Nintendo handhelds. Guess what BLADESTAR...it didn't happen overnight. The ps2 started with just a DVD player (Everybody had The Matrix!) SSX, and Madden...just look what happened. I am not trying to convince anyone on the Ps3...I just answer some of the N4G blogs. Bottom line, you must have liked what I was saying or else you would not have responded to freestyle. 360 is a rip off, and you know it! you know the ps3 lineup is CRAZY and Deja Vu is all over Msoft's games division. Keep making Halo's and Gears...UNTIL Sony decides to pay for at least Gears...(they are MS exclusive) Man, I had the 1st xbox...I am not a hater, only respond to blogs. Like communicating with people by sharing my opnions on games.

I agree completely. Microsoft will be forced to use blu ray because it will be the main source of HD content.
If Microsoft chooses to rely on digital downloads for their games, they will lose huge amounts of sales in countries that don't have high speed internet.
Besides, I will always prefer to have a hard copy of my games over a download.

more software sales on the 360 any given day....so no blu-ray is not need for gaming at all..put games on 4 discs who cares......i can spare a total of 20 sec of my life......its not like i am expecting to play a 300 hour game with 500GB.....because that just sounds like a waste of time.....and to do that it would cost devs more and more money....and then....it turns out ps3 has crappy software sales....so they get little in return of what is expected

It's a possibility that it won't. With the upcoming Star Ocean 4 to 360 which is 4 discs long MS would have to wait and see if it will be a hit or not. A lot of 360 gamers haven't embraced the RPG genre so this game will be a test, IMO.

Xbox = DVD-5
Xbox 360 = DVD-9
Xbox 720 = DVD-18
Its simple as that why not ??

PS4 will proby use triple layer who knows.

Of course it will. Blu-ray is the new movie and data standard. By the time the next Xbox comes out it will cost almost nothing more to use Blu-ray than a regular DVD drive anyways. It probably costs Sony almost nothing more right now.

Why does N4G have so many blogs written by illiterate jackasses who fancy themselves writers? They mention a single point, and then offer nothing in terms of evidence or anything even close to a worthwhile editorial. I'm a professional writer and even I am not a big enough *sshole to write a blog.

since B-ray is so great?

B-ray isnt needed for gaming, its needed for movies within a game. I dont like small films in my games, I like to game, period!

There will be no disc media on the main device unless you buy the USB3 addon. expect a large SSD HD and XBL marketplace for full game releases. BC will be thru USB3 DVD/Blue-ray/HD-DVD addon device w/BC hardware acceleration. Expect to pay $$ for the addon device.

I would see that Microsoft goes solid state drive and no hard hard drive and if the go with a hard drive they might not use No dvd or Blu-ray and go with a usb storage device and maybe you go to store and plug it into a kiosk and directly download your games or do it over internet. I know that price for large sold state memory will be very cheap in a few years and talking about 1Terbyte of storage for 100 dollars, and most computers will be going away from hard drives all together, because of the speed and reliability. xbox 720 with solid state drive would kick ass over any blu-ray device.

maybe the next 720 will be sold state drive, much faster then standard storage and reliable. I know there lot of talk of terabyte storage for 100 dollars why not in the next gen system. am sure if you cant download the game you bring a usb device and upload from a kiosk at a store to pick your games up.

Microsoft would do downloads-only before using blu-ray.

MS want use Bluray because that be showing that Sony was right an theirs a new thing out that puts 400GB on one disc. Think of a MS game with that disc? but theirs the chance Sony is going to get it and most likely get it because they have been good at showing that they can make something big.

The funny thing about this article is that I just commented on this yesterday. If Microsoft chooses not to use Blu-ray and go with a new format it will definitely cost the consumer. If not in dollars it will cost in convenience. Either Microsoft will make the next box a pure gaming console or they will try to do the movie thing by digital distribution. Either way Blu-ray is here to stay so it would make more sense to just use it. In Japan they are already working on new resolution that double or triple Blu-ray (not sure on the resolution), although this new technology won't be available to the public for many years (due to pricing). So yeah Blu-ray will be the new standard for some time.

So to say it is not necessary for gaming is accurate, but it will suck for the customers to not have it. Why pay $299-$399 for a gaming system and then have to buy a Blu-ray player once DVD is phased out (for people who don't have high speed internet, but want the to watch movies in HD). That is just one of the perks of owning a PS3, renting Blu-ray movies or buying them is easy. Where as Microsoft wasted consumers money backing a format that they knew would not win. So for 360 owners how do they watch HD movies? Is it by digital download (not everyone has highspeed) or do they buy a separate blu-ray player? With HD-DVD being dead what do they do?

have anyone ever heard of solid estate drive. yeah why not make games fit into a real small memory stick where loading is not needed nor power cosumption of the stupid spinning cds. The Mac Air has up to a 68gig ssd as a hard drive. there are mini sd cards that can hold up to 8gigs. In 3 years this will at least tripple. having 500gig cds is not the answer we need better compression without losing any quality. If we can turn 500gigs compress to 1 we can download this in seconds in by then. Lossless compression is the way, is the only way were gona be able to download things instantly.

The Xbox 720 will not use Blu-Ray,because Micro$haft are a bunch of cavemen living in the past,just like the Xbots here on this site.

Digital downloads will never make it into gaming and here`s why: it has already been proved that a good game, big game, needs between 30gb to 50gb of data and this will be proved more and more as we approach the end of this gen of consoles. Next gen the games will double, triple or ,for the extra large RPGs, even quadruple in size. How on earth are we gonna DL 200gb worth of data in the next five years? And what size of HDD will we need when i buy on average 100 games/ 5 years?

Microsoft not using Bluray in the future will bite them back in the @$$.

they just need 3 disc for Too Human 2.

I don't want to see any 4 disc games on the next Xbox.

Will be fully digital.

downloads. maybe you get a card to download the game into your system.
erasing the card. so what would you need blue ray for that.

Actually GTAIV for the PC proves that soon we will need more storage space than DVD DL for holding game data

The xbox 720 will not use blu ray, dvd, or hd dvd... It will use LASER DISCS. The machine will weigh 35 pounds, and run at 60 decibals. It will also include an 8 track input as well as 5 coax outputs. It will run using dot matrix graphics and have a 386 processor. It will rule... seriously.