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Xbox should not be blamed for recent studio issues or Starfield's delay

Many people believe Xbox looks bad because of the way Microsoft is handling its first-party exclusives. I don’t believe that, but it’s not difficult to understand why others feel that way. Microsoft has only three recognizable exclusive franchises – Halo, Forza, and Gears of War. Four Xbox first-party exclusives have launched since the Series S|X came out – Halo Infinite, Forza Horizon 5, Psychonauts 2, Flight Simulator — and all of them have been available on the Xbox One.

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Magog1432d ago

Uh, if the makers of the game aren't at fault who is? This propaganda has gone too far. Put down the kool-aid already.

gangsta_red1432d ago (Edited 1432d ago )

Microsoft aren't the makers, Bethesda is.

This is a common problem throughout all of the industry, not just for Microsoft's studios.

Magog1432d ago

It's the same company. Bethesda is a wholly-owned subsidiary. There is no distinction.

_SilverHawk_1432d ago

Yeah let's not blame the people in charge. Probably it's the Queens fault.

Chevalier1432d ago

How about the other 14 or so studios they own? No games from some since last gen. No blame there either?! Clearly these studios are mismanaged

Eonjay1432d ago

No its clearly Sony's fault.

darthv721432d ago (Edited 1432d ago )

MS deserves some blame. Like you said below, they inherited Bethesda and should be more strict with their studios to hit target deadlines. Otherwise whats the point of having a deadline.

I get it that MS may be taking more hands off but seriously that doesnt mean turning a blind eye. Phil needs to show his authority, not be a hard ass but assure the teams that production needs to be met in a timely manner.

gangsta_red1432d ago

@Chevalier

were you expecting their games to just automatically be finished and released as soon as they were purchased?

Seriously, are we all here just pretending we don't know how development works or how long it takes to release games.

@Eonjay
Should we blame Sony when GT7, Horizon and GoW Ragnarok was delayed and there was a long period of no first party releases then?

DragonWarrior191432d ago

MS is the publisher, they are proud and were very quickly to be loud about being the publisher of Starfield as opposed to Bethesda being the sole 3rd party publisher as they previously used to be. If they want to be the big cheese than they need to take the weight of the whole company if there is an error somewhere along the line. They can't just take credit when things go well and push the blame when it doesn't. But then again that is Phil Spencer's MO. Halo Infinite was getting good press everything was all his idea with the delay but now that it's in bad light, everything is 343's fault.

annoyedgamer1432d ago

This is the same excuse that EA shills make. EA isnt making the game, Dice/Maxis/Criterion/Danger Close/Visceral/etc is.

Almost every single western AAA publisher is putting out garbage games right now and they are absolutely at fault.

JamiroquaiBocephus1432d ago

@gangsta-Are you just going to pretend that Sony has a similar history of first party releases as Microsoft? Yes you can blame Sony for delays. The difference is they don’t leave their player base with an entire calendar year of no releases. Horizon got pushed out of 2021, but they still had first party games that year. When was the last time they left their base hanging like Microsoft?
You need to stop spinning Microsoft’s shortcomings. They don’t care about you.

Chevalier1432d ago

"were you expecting their games to just automatically be finished and released as soon as they were purchased?"

Maybe you should learn to read. They had 14 other studios before they purchased Bethesda. Outside of Halo and Forza none of those studios have released anything new in 3-5 years. If they can't even get games out of the studios they already own you think Bethesda or any other studio would be any different?! What's the excuse for those studios?! They weren't bought recently and have been with Xbox since the beginning of the last generation. You going to excuse that mismanagement as development issues? Really?!

Nintendo has released far more games since the Switch launched 6 years ago than Xbox with LESS studio's. You don't see any issue with that?! Xbox has had studios even before these purchases and they've not done anything recently. This isn't because of development time so much as mismanagement

Christopher1432d ago

@Chevalier:

Mojang: Minecraft Dungeons + ongoing Minecraft updates
Rare: Sea of Thieves + Updates
XGS: Microsoft Flight Simulator
The Coalition: Gears 5, Gears Tactics
World's Edge: Age of Empires

The Initiative and Roundhouse Studios are new studios working on their games. We know what Playground, 343, and Turn10 have been working on.

Christopher1432d ago

You: "They had 14 other studios before they purchased Bethesda. Outside of Halo and Forza none of those studios have released anything new in 3-5 years."

Me: *posts what they've been doing for the last 3-5 years*

You: "Not like that!" *disagrees disagrees*

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C'mon, I'm not sitting here praising Microsoft's games, but they haven't only put out two games. Heck, since their purchase the new studios have even put out new games like Grounded (Obsidian) and Bleeding Edge (Ninja Theory). And, yeah, we're all waiting on them to really utilize their purchased studios, but it's also not like most studios haven't been hit with delays in the last few years.

Chevalier1431d ago (Edited 1431d ago )

@Christopher

"Mojang: Minecraft Dungeons + ongoing Minecraft updates
Rare: Sea of Thieves + Updates
XGS: Microsoft Flight Simulator
The Coalition: Gears 5, Gears Tactics
World's Edge: Age of Empires"

Thanks for proving my point. You listed off like 5 studios basically.

Gears Tactics was worked with Splash Damage studios so it's not like Coalition did all the work.

Flight Simulator was done by a 3rd party studio not Xbox 1st party.

We're counting 'updates' as games now? Really?!!

Compulsion no games since 2018
Undead Labs no games since 2018
Initiative formed 2018 no games
Couple small games like Grounded, Bleeding Edge, Wasteland 3, Psychonauts 2.

Then Halo, Gears, Forza, Forza Horizon..... so again mainly theses 3 IPs since then.

In the time Halo, Gears and Forza released Insomniacs by themselves have released Spiderman, Spiderman Miles Morales and Ratchet and Clank.

Counting the last 4 years of Xbox and 2 years of Series X. Nintendo have released:

Animal Crossing
Splatoon 2
Ring Fit
Kirby
Fire Emblem
Fire Emblem Warriors
4 Pokemon Games
2 Mario Party
Mario Tennis
Mario Golf
Luigis Mansion 3
Pikmin 3 deluxe
Xenoblade 2
Astral Chain
Yoshis Crafted world
Hyrule Warriors
Bravely Default 2
Metroid Dread
6 more Switch Games this year and that's not counting remasters, countless DLCs, Expansions or the countless 3DS games since 2018. Again with fewer studios.

I'm sure Xbox studios may get rolling at some point. But right now they're going to be releasing in 2024 and beyond for most I would bet. That's what 4 to 5 years into the generation? So basically half the generation will be done by the time they get rolling.

"it's also not like most studios haven't been hit with delays in the last few years."

And yet Nintendo will be releasing what like 7-8 games this year? Playstation will have 4-5?
Xbox studios? ZERO. So if delays are a factor then explain Nintendo and Playstation releasing what they are versus Xbox?!

Christopher1430d ago

***Thanks for proving my point. You listed off like 5 studios basically.***

No no no. Don't you dare try and back away from your statement of "They had 14 other studios before they purchased Bethesda. Outside of Halo and Forza NONE OF THOSE STUDIOS HAVE RELEASED ANYTHING NEW IN 3-5 YEARS."

At no point did I say all of the studios were working on things. All I pointed out was that they had studios actually working on games. And I honestly didn't list all of them and what they were working on.

Don't come trying to criticize me for something I never said when you just agreed that you were wrong with your original statement in your reply to me.

It's fine to not like Microsoft, but it's cowardly to hide behind false statements to prop up your opinion of them.

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JackBNimble1432d ago

Instead of releasing broken buggy games I would rather see a delay so they can get it right.
Far to often games are released in a broken unfinished state for a quick pay off only to patch it later.

Yes delays suck , but they're much better then the alternative.

Magog1432d ago

You're right but the game has taken forever and the delay is by no means a guarantee that it still won't release with bugs given Bethesda's previous track record.

kayoss1432d ago

That’s all good and Dandy. But Microsoft haven’t released any great games since last Gen. The new Halo game is mediocre at best. What’s the excuse for that? Do they need an entire Generation to release one great game?

rippermcrip1432d ago

This is Bethesda. You're going to get a delay and you're still going to get the bugs.

Crows901432d ago

Yes. Mitliplatform games have that recognition of releasing in a bad state.

But first party games don't.
How many sony 1st party released unfinished or a mess? How many Nintendo first party? These companies release at least 2 award winning and heavy hitting games a year.

RosweeSon1432d ago

Delaying a game isn’t the entire solution tho they still have to put that extra time to good use, something Xbox struggle to do at all. Duke nukem forever says hello. Can delay a game 10 years doesn’t mean it’s gonna be a GOTY 🤣😜

iplay1up21432d ago

All these downvotes, and your comment is absolutely correct.

Flight Simulator is amazing looking. The largest most detailed Simulator ever. The Top Gun Maverick DLC is a blast!

Once these studios start releasing games, Microsoft is going to have a ton of new content. I want the studios to make great games, and that takes time.

Knushwood Butt1432d ago

How did that work for Halo infinite?

Snakeeater251431d ago

Alwais with that answer

Delaying a game is not a done deal with quality.

Do you remember cyberpunk ?

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gangsta_red1432d ago

The article explains pretty clearly how development of studios work and their relationship with Publishers or their owners

MS inherited Bethesda along with a good number of other studios under Zenimax. Starfield was already in development and Bethesda gave a date to MS along with the public. All MS can do is market the dates given and support them with whatever they may need. What they can't do is force them to release a game that is not ready...(I guess they could but that wouldn't be good for anyone)

If there's going to be blame, blame the makers and that would be Bethesda. But as I have said before this is an industry wide problem, not just for Microsoft

Lightning771432d ago

They'll downvote with telling you why. Everything you said is factual. You couldn't make it clearer than that.

Plus if Phil denied their request to delay the game and launch in a broken Cyber Punk like state (yes that's what the apparent state of Starfield is right now) the same ppl here would blame MS for rushing out bad games. Which makes MS look worse then granting their request to delay the game to make it better. They'll complain no matter the circumstance.

RosweeSon1432d ago

The article also starts with blatant false information 4 exclusives? One of which is on ps5 🤨 yeah I’ll believe a word that article says, lying within the first sentence. They could have quite easily googled that psychonauts 2 is on ps5 or just bought a ps5 and be done with it. Move on we all have.

sinspirit1432d ago (Edited 1432d ago )

What a shame many on this site are. Avoiding blame for a company that sees no passion in the industry and cares nothing for you. They will continue to have problems because you aren't honest with them and yourself.

Everyone knows how development works. Everyone here knows. Stop re-explaining common sense and listen.

Yea. Just about everyone has had delays and some have had launch issues here and there. But none have these issues like Microsoft. Their release schedule for major compelling AAA titles that are real console pushers is abysmal. When more and more games are delayed to create even larger gaps in long release schedules, and then they consistently release with problems and failed promises there is no excuse.

Many here keep over-explaining what we all know and ask rhetorical questions to defend their delays such as, "do you want them to release unfinished games at the original deadline instead"? And, I say no. I want complete and good quality games that feel rewarding to play with no extra costs behind it. So, when they have a majority of titles delayed, I don't understand why once it comes out we still deal with major issues and lack of quality after the extra time was given. Forza has been their only saving grace since XBox One.

If they hadn't gone on a spending spree then this gen would have been mirroring the last. And, it honestly still is until constently good games are consistently released every year.

ApocalypseShadow1432d ago

The problem gangster is that they shouldn't be in this position being that they have more resources and more financial support. Microsoft are worth 20 times more but doing 20 times less in their output of games. At the least, they should be making and releasing high quality games at the same output of Sony. They're not. That's why we laugh at the excuses.

Instead of using those billions buying up more studios to either make money off of their competitors or take those games away, they could have put those billions into the studios they already have. Could have made Rare better, Coalition better, Double Fine better, etc. Built up with even more artists, programmers, designers etc. Making them consistent and strong. Then expand with more companies. But they didn't. How do you keep spending money but the output of your current studios is lacking? The quality is inconsistent.

It's bad management or purposeful. They can't just keep doing the bare minimum but want to be the market leader. That's just the truth. But you guys consistently will deny it or try to pull some whataboutism when Sony is doing more. And that's not even counting VR that's coming up.

Chocoburger1431d ago

@sinspirit

Such a perfect post, if only I could upvote you 100 times. Alas, take my single upvote!

FlavorLav011431d ago (Edited 1431d ago )

They didn’t inherit Bethesda and other zenimax studios. They bought them. And it’s called a due diligence, if MS knew how to make quality yet efficient games themselves they would’ve recognized the state of all Bethesda studio projects’ and that they wouldn’t be ready to deploy for years.

VenomCarnage891431d ago

So I can't blame Microsoft for mismanaging their studios to the point where we were half way through the Xbox one era, saying EXACTLY what we're still saying today "where the hell are the f*cking games!?"
Like, it's actually pathetic to sit around for 3 console generations pretending a company is taking care of you, when they are actually laughing behind your back because your loyalty is a joke to them

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ChasterMies1432d ago

Microsoft’s PR team could have done a better job writing this.

fr0sty1432d ago (Edited 1432d ago )

Microsoft couldn't even get their flagship game out on time, and when they finally did, it ended up being a big disappointment. I don't have much hope for Microsoft with these new studios, which is a shame, because some of my favorite games are produced by them. There is obviously a management problem going on here, and yes, it starts at the top down. This was already happening with their first party studios before all these acquisitions, and I'm seeing nothing to suggest it isn't going to keep happening after.

Look at Sony... if one of their studios craps out a turd, they close them down. Even games like Motorstorm and Driveclub, which were great games, still couldn't save Evolution Studios from getting shut down, because their games just weren't selling good enough. Microsoft seems too willing to give out free passes for mediocrity.

gangsta_red1432d ago (Edited 1432d ago )

Halo Infinite has a high meta score. The problems they're facing is for their MP portion not the SP campaign which has been praised by many.

InXile, Obsidian, Ninja Theory and many other studios are doing just fine, this over exaggeration of MS studios being on fire because of some games being delayed is comical. A lot of you are just expressing hatred for MS and blaming them for everything instead of actually acknowledging that delays have been rampant throughout the past gen and has only increased with each big triple A game.

MS shouldn't be blamed for something that is happening across the board with all developers.

"This was already happening with their first party studios..."

When? And who?

"if one of their studios craps out a turd, they close them down."

Not true at all and I wouldn't celebrate Sony closing down studios if they crapped out a mediocre game.

ABizzel11432d ago

The Halo Infinite campaign was barely above average for even the FPS genre. It was empty and dull "open-world" with generic base missions because they tried to go the progressive content route and failed. The multiplayer and the promise of content is what led to higher than deserved reviews. What the multiplayer offered from a gameplay perspective is good, really good. But reviewers scored the game on the promise of upcoming content and seasonal passes with said free content....which turned out to be bi-annual passes with lackluster content.

Halo Infinite isn't a bad game, it's an overall good game completely held back by an over-ambition and a complete and utter lack of execution.

fr0sty1432d ago (Edited 1432d ago )

@gangsta There are a lot of crap games with high meta scores. As you say, half the game is crap... nobody should get a free pass for releasing a game that is only half-good. Quit making excuses.

Microsoft has managed to get FOUR exclusives out the door this gen... FOUR. That isn't "the other studios are doing just fine", no matter how you spin it. A lot of you are just sucking up to MS and doing all you can to polish that turd... As you say, delays are common in the industry, yet Sony is kicking MS' ass at the exclusive game. If they can get their heavy hitter AAA's out on time, and so can Nintendo, there is no excuse for MS to be so far behind and still falling.

MS should be blamed for something that is happening more to them than other developers.

343 was late AF with Halo and the game they put out still sucked. It looked so bad on its initial reveal that people clowned on it for not even living up to last gen standards. Then they delayed it... and all that time later it still released incomplete.

As for Sony shutting down studios, your comment is hilarious... you first try to deny it, then try to say that because it is happening, it shouldn't be celebrated... make up your mind.Which is it?

I never celebrate when a good developer gets shut down, I miss Evolution's games. I miss Zipper's games... but the fact is they didn't make money, and Sony isn't about to hand out free passes to people that cost them money... but at least their games were good and came out on time. This stuff Microsoft is putting up with out of their developers is ridiculous.

gangsta_red1432d ago

@frosty
" yet Sony is kicking MS' ass at the exclusive game"

As I said before, a lot of you are confused about the topic here. This isn't a discussion about who has the better exclusives, this is a topic about delays and how it's common in this industry and because of this common issue, why are we blaming MS for Bethesda delaying a game.

"If they can get their heavy hitter AAA's out on time, and so can Nintendo, there is no excuse for MS to be so far behind and still falling"

They haven't, GoW is delayed, Forbidden West was delayed, GT7 was delayed, Breath of the Wild 2 is delayed, Metroid Prime 4 is in limbo, this exactly proves my point even further, this magnifying glass being held to MS but not holding Sony or Nintendo to the same strict standard.

"..you first try to deny it, then try to say that because it is happening, it shouldn't be celebrated... make up your mind.Which is it?"

No, read my statement again. Sony doesn't close down studios after one game that fails like you said, your statement isn't true at all, and I just pointed out that wouldn't be anything to celebrate about if it was.

Also, if we're going to talk about closures, wasn't MS crucified a while back for closing a bunch of their own studios? Isn't this one reason MS went on a spending spree to build back their studios? Anyways, that's not even the point...

Reading the comments here, I have to wonder what do you want MS to do... make Bethesda work on their game faster?

What exactly can MS do that the whole industry hasn't been able to solve yet?

AmUnRa1431d ago

Microsoft puts does mediocre games on GamePass and calls it a day. They dont care about high quallity games anymore.

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Godmars2901432d ago

The funny bit is that MS were lauded as if they fix Bethesda's production issues. That such has persisted even by rising example of 343.

VenomCarnage891431d ago

If they aren't at fault for this, who's fault is it for their game drought that's lasted since the second half of the 360 era?

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Flawlessmic1432d ago (Edited 1432d ago )

Remove starfield from the equation.

So ur saying microsoft shouldnt be criticed for the lack of games through out the whole previous gen and now a year and a half into the current gen?

The games will defi itely come at some point now with all the studios but honestly until that actually happens they shpuld be criticised.

Im looking at close to a year and half if not more from halo infinite to ms next big 1st party release, thats rediculous now matter how u put it.

Im hoping yhe upcoming showcase changes that and we get some 1st party goodness come to gamepass this year but well see.

Obscure_Observer1432d ago

"So ur saying microsoft shouldnt be criticed for the lack of games through out the whole previous gen and now a year and a half into the current gen?"

Under Phil Spencer, Xbox Studios went from 5 first party studios to 33 first party studios in three and a half years. It´s an unprecedented and epic accomplishment in this industry, so I like ask you: What could you realistic expect from those studios as first party in such short time?

"Im hoping yhe upcoming showcase changes that and we get some 1st party goodness come to gamepass this year but well see."

Microsoft will put no pressure over no first party studio. If you´re in such hurry, I suggest you to leave Xbox.

BlackTar1871432d ago (Edited 1432d ago )

Xbox is notorious for not releasing games. The 2nd half of 360, the entire gen of xbox one and now we've had very little games this gen.

They then release service games that take another year to hit their stride or even longer.

RosweeSon1432d ago

Wow they went from 5/33 studios. Still ain’t releasing anything!! For over year but it’s fine guys we can buy a series X2.0 then 🤦🏻‍♂️🙄 🤣

northpaws1432d ago

@obscure_observer

You have to be the most delusional Xbox fan that I have ever seen.

Phil spent too much money = epic accomplishment
People want first party games = they should leave

Lol smh

S2Killinit1432d ago

Hey bud.

They BOUGHT them! Thats not accomplishment.

ShadowWolf7121432d ago

Flexing a bottomless checkbook is an accomplishment now?

kfk1432d ago

Buying things isn't an accomplishment.

Obscure_Observer1431d ago (Edited 1431d ago )

@northpaws @S2Killinit @ShadowWolf712 @kfk

"Buying things isn't an accomplishment."
"Flexing a bottomless checkbook is an accomplishment now?"
"They BOUGHT them! Thats not accomplishment."
"Phil spent too much money = epic accomplishment"

Oh, let me guess: It´s only a great accomplishment when it´s Sony buying studios, right?

https://www.playstationlife...

What y´all were saying again? XD

Oh, let me guess: It´s only a great accomplishment when it´s Sony buying studios, right?

That was some rhetorical questions don´t bother and reply. Just spare me of your hypocritical bs! We´re done here.

Charal1431d ago

33 first party studios and almost no games released for a complete year. A heck of an achievement for sure….

Stanjara1431d ago

The fact that you know how many studios MS bought vs how many new games they released is ridiculous.

Flawlessmic1431d ago

Lol obscure ur trying to hard mate.

This isnt aboyt buying studios, is about yhe lack of games from ms studios for years now.

You brought up sonys delays but what u forget to mention is sony still released exclusives those years as well as complimenting that with timed exclusive big 3rd party games.

This year ms has no games and no big 3rd party timed exclusives which why the delays are particulary bad.

If ms had other games to offsett those delays then it wpuldnt be that big of a deal but as it stand they dont have that.

The Wood1431d ago

that good ol go to whataboutism spew
Despite having less funds, Sony manages to release more content than the trillion dollar company you guys are shielding. That's a clown movement. No offence but the management has to somewhat be held accountable. Their balance of laissez faire to overbearing needs adjusting. How can they totally mess up their biggest franchise and release so little at the start of a new gen? Anyone who sees no issue with this will NEVER change their mind for the love of Spencer. It's become impossible to reason with some of you xbox guys.

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jznrpg1430d ago

You must be Phil’s son ?

anast1432d ago

Yes, they should. It's their responsibility to audit their acquisitions.

Obscure_Observer1432d ago

"Yes, they should. It's their responsibility to audit their acquisitions."

It´s their responsibility to give their newly acquired and created studios, time, to adjust and produce.

Silly gameAr1432d ago

It's not like the studios they bought are full of rookies. These are companies full of vets, that have put games out before, and they probably had games in the making or almost done before MS bought them.

anast1432d ago

These are big kids we are talking about.

Chevalier1432d ago (Edited 1432d ago )

Adjust to what exactly? Bethesda is running as they were before. They're not a new pop up full of rookies. They publish their own games. Plus it anything they have less work to do then before because they no longer have to keep producing for the Switch, PS4 and PS5 and still manage to need to delay their games.

Still doesn't explain why the other studios under Xbox since the previous generation haven't really done much of anything either. Seriously for an 'observer' you're pretty blind to a lot of things

shinoff21831432d ago

Adjust to what. I doubt anything really changed.

Obscure_Observer1431d ago

@Chevalier

"Plus it anything they have less work to do then before because they no longer have to keep producing for the Switch, PS4 and PS5 and still manage to need to delay their games."

Starfield is not a 20 hours linear cinematic game. It´s the most ambitious RPG in a long time.

I don´t care about your fake concern BS about Xbox games. You´re a PS fan that have zero interest in Starfiled other than to see it crash and burn now that you know its gonna be console exclusive to Xbox.

I love to see you people nervous with Xbox games delays because you know that it will translate in more quality in the end.

Fun times ahead

AmUnRa1431d ago (Edited 1431d ago )

O.O. Please stop it you are digging your own hole deeper and deeper with you damagecontrollig counter arguments. The disagree votes you always get does not tell you something? Apparantly not, keep blind for the facts, cous thats what you do.

VenomCarnage891431d ago

How much time, obscure? They haven't released a damn thing worth talking about since the first half of the 360 era. Do we need 15 more years for them to get sorted? Maybe by the the Series XXXX we can get a game that isn't Halo/Forza from one of their 33 studios.
Man, obscure is such an ms simp that they probably never have to release another game again and he'd be happy jerking it into the series X's disc slot for the rest of his life. To each their own I guess

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ChasterMies1432d ago

Buying Bethesda and Activision wasn’t about getting more games for Xbox because these games would have released on Xbox anyway. This was always about keeping games off of other platforms and eventually tying them to Game Pass. So Microsoft doesn’t really care if the games are good.

Obscure_Observer1431d ago

"This was always about keeping games off of other platforms and eventually tying them to Game Pass. So Microsoft doesn’t really care if the games are good."

Get over it! Sony tried and paid Bethesda games to be out of Xbox consoles. Not anymore. Phil just give Sony what they wanted and now theypre reaping what they sow.

SurgicalMenace1432d ago

Great point. You have to be aware of what you're buying.

S2Killinit1432d ago (Edited 1432d ago )

I didnt realize their first party games are in such a bad state. I mean, I always knew they dont make proper games other than the Halo, Forza, Gears, but I didnt know it was a literal truth.

As to the article, I think after how they have managed last generation plus this generation so far, its safe to start blaming them no? I mean cone on. When are we going to stop making up excuses for them?

LordoftheCritics1432d ago

I think we need another empty gen from Xbox for people to learn

TiredGamer1432d ago

The MS spin machine are masters of the hype game. Promise the world, be vague, and lure the faithful to the eventual disappointment. Rinse and repeat.

Elda1432d ago

So far it's been empty,not one AAA exclusive this year.

BlackTar1871432d ago

Ms puts more effort into hype and spreading fud then they do the actual games they make.

RosweeSon1432d ago

Sadly I still don’t think that would be enough for some of them.

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LordoftheCritics1432d ago (Edited 1432d ago )

They absolutely should be blamed. The trailer even planted a date. Its all marketing.

They got praised during acquisition thus boosting their sales and popularity.

Now they deserve blame as well.

This is how the world works.

Lightning771432d ago

"They absolutely should be blamed. The trailer even planted a date. Its all marketing."

Who gave MS the and the public the date of release date of Starfiled? It's not hard to figure out.

Eonjay1432d ago (Edited 1432d ago )

You are trying to say that is Todd Howard's (or the devs themselves) fault but most likly the date came from and was set by Xbox Marketing as he said above you. Microsoft gave it. The leaks coming from inside Bethesda make is sound like the devs knew they counld make this date even a year ago. And they were saying this a year ago. That last leak that went public about a week before the delay was what made Xbox back off. Its crazy they had to leak their own dev issues to avoid the marketed release date. Devs saved the project. I don't know what part Todd had in all of this. He is obviously management but I like to think he was on the devs side too. Regardless its all Microsoft now.

S2Killinit1432d ago (Edited 1432d ago )

MS cant check on their own studio’s progress? Do you mean they lack so much in game development experience that they cant even check up on the work of their own studio? Give them a little credit here.

And then there is the very real possibility that they did it intentionally to gain a boost in console sales even though they knew the game wasnt coming anytime soon. It sounds awefully fimilar to the “just wait” approach if last generation.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio5d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing5d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster925d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit5d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing5d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster925d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Koei Tecmo Announces Record Financial Results After Releasing Many Big Games

Today, Koei Tecmo announced its financial results for the full fiscal year 2025, related to the period between April 2025 and March 2026.

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay7d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn28d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn27d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown8d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay7d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay7d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac7d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger8d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster30008d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde8d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde7d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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