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What could a different Microsoft studio do with Halo?

Halo Infinite has been a contentious game for fans. Could one of Microsoft's newer FPS studios create a fresh Halo experience?

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SullysCigar1444d ago

Hopefully, make a complete game with all the promised modes and enough content to entertain for more than a couple of weeks of play.

343i have had enough chances. Everyone was up against the pandemic, not just them, but they had FAR greater resources and financial backing than other devs - not-to-mention time AND delays - and still we're left with a half-baked game.

Move 343i onto something more their speed and give this franchise to a proper developer, before it's damaged beyond repair.

Tacoboto1444d ago

343i is named after a character in the franchise, they can't exist and *not* be a part of Halo. What I'd think to be most ideal would be to convert 343 into a publishing group, and hand dev responsibilities to other studios. Halo Wars were good games. MCC in its current state is really good.

But executive and managing decisions are also a fundamental problem for them, so I hate this idea too. The studios I trust to make a good Halo game I'm more excited to see their own stuff - and Certain Affinity only seems to have multiplayer experience. I don't want the franchise to end either, because it does have good fundamental gameplay, just surrounded by buts. Tight controls, but desync. Smooth traversal, but limited maps. The biggest campaign yet is focused on Chief, but only one biome.

Obscure_Observer1444d ago

"Move 343i onto something more their speed and give this franchise to a proper developer, before it's damaged beyond repair."

Lol. A game that has a 87 Metascore and 80 Usercore.

Please. You´re not concerned with Halo and never has. Say what you want but the truth is that Halo Infinite is a great game.

People talk shit about Halo as a half experience while giving Naughty Dog a pass when they promised Factions to be released Day One as full game! And guess what? To this day we saw nothing after almost two years! Not even a release date. And you don´t see Xbox gamers talking shit about Naughty Dog telling they should be replaced. Or Polyphony with their atrocious GT7 launch.

342i is fine and will continue to make Halo games whether you like or not. FYI they´re already working in a new one as we speak, so, in other words, bad news for you.

ChubbyBlade1444d ago

Sorry but you’re delusional if this is your take. 343 has consistently released games that lose over 90% of its audience within a few months.

Christopher1444d ago

***343 has consistently released games that lose over 90% of its audience within a few months.***

Regardless of whatever argument is being had above, this is a poor argument since this is almost every single game out there. That's how games work and why they keep releasing new ones every month.

Knushwood Butt1444d ago

'And you don´t see Xbox gamers talking shit about Naughty Dog telling they should be replaced. Or Polyphony with their atrocious GT7 launch.'.

You just did that exact thing you say Xbox gamers don't do!!!
Have you ever played GT7?

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RedDevils1444d ago

Lol comparing 343i to Naughty Dog who consistently release multi awards winning games one after another, breaking record in all front. Damn must a biggest joke ever.

AmUnRa1443d ago

O boy OO this one off the worst and delusional comment you wrote on N4G.
The lies in this comment are just cringle.

1Victor1443d ago

@obcure
Going by what a few N4G hardcore Xbox fans said the game wasn’t as good as other halo games.
You can’t compare a 3rd person SINGLE PLAYER ACTION/Shooter game developer to a first person shooter developer that’s WELL KNOWN / PRIDEFUL for its MMO gameplay and divert the attention by saying oh the other guys did it and no one say anything, I thought that you was smarter than that but I guess I overestimated you.
Does the game need a new developer I can’t tell you I never played it I can only go by the comments here from the hardcore Xbox fans that say yes, but let’s be real for a second it won’t happen till Microsoft see a drastic drop in revenue from the game players 🤷🏿

BehindTheRows1443d ago

If there was ever a time you show how out of touch you really are, this is it.

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Gunstar751444d ago

I play halo every day. Even if just a couple of matches. What 343i have made is actually really very good. The problem is the pace at which they are releasing content. They have barely kept the hype fire smouldering

Crows901444d ago

Perfect dark for N64 released with more content.

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Mr Pumblechook1443d ago

Q: 'What could a different Microsoft studio do with Halo?'

A: Have professional project management so the game launches on one date complete with the single-player and multiplayer elements as well all gameplay modes and features including the Forge and campaign splitscreen.

Atom6661443d ago

It's staying with 343.

Despite all of the ups and downs, and the vocal fans (and non-fans), 343 has yet to make a bad game.

4, 5, and Infinite may not be anyone's pick as the best Halo, but they've all been good. Right now, it's hard for me to play Infinite and not recognize that Halo has never felt better to play.

Hopefully they've sorted out their management and production issues because there's a lot of talent shown in the game itself.

Between HW2 and Infinite, it seems like they've figured out the right direction on the story. With Infinite, gameplay is right where I want it.

All of this "half-baked" talk is console war drivel to me. They have some stuff to work out like forge and Co op. That's fair criticism. But it's a really good game, and it's a good Halo title.

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KicksnSnares1444d ago

Id Software should take over the Halo franchise, and 343 should work on a new IP

Tacoboto1444d ago

I mentioned a couple weeks ago I'd like to see an id ODST title. They could really go far with that, especially if they can work in a story involving the Flood. They also know how to do a quiet deadly protagonist better than most as Doom 2016 and Eternal proved.

But as I said above, I'd rather them create their own games as opposed to being the fallback for what essentially is another studio's failure

Lightning771444d ago (Edited 1444d ago )

Bingo.

People wonder why 343i management has tanked in the past 3 to 4 years of development. It's because there's no passion in creating Halo for the time being. They need to give the IP to someone else maybe I'D over at Bethesda. Have a brand new take on Master Chief and the Halo universe.

If no other studio wants to make it, then shelve the game and make a brand new IP. Get the team excited and passionate again. MS has what 31, 32 Studios now? Halo needs to take a back seat, just like Gears is taking a hiatus.

GG released KSF while graphically impressive it didn't live up to the other Kill Zones. So GG went to Sony and asked to do a brand new franchise. Now we got the Horizon games and is a very successful IP. The same needs to happen to 343i. Again to get the team excited and engaged and passionate again. Halo Infinite is a sad passionless state because of it.

RedDevils1444d ago

Even Bungie got bore with Halo. How much can you milk from a franchise that cannot get any better.

Obscure_Observer1444d ago

The only developers that I would trust a main Halo game is Bungie or Valve. None of those studios are Microsoft´s, so, I think I would not complain in case Obsidian or Machine Games would step in and take over some spinoff Halo game like Reach.

porkChop1444d ago

Valve? Wtf? How would they ever be right for Halo? They've never made anything remotely like it.

MachineGames is great for SP, but they aren't great at MP. So they would need to collab with someone like id Software potentially. I would love to see that.

I could see Obsidian doing something like Outer Worlds in the Halo universe, but I'm not sure that's the direction the series needs.

Obscure_Observer1444d ago

"Valve? Wtf? How would they ever be right for Halo? They've never made anything remotely like it."

Halo is a game that heavily relies on physics, IA, vehicles, innovative weapons, level design and gameplay.

Due Valve´s track record with games like Half Life and Portal, I belive they would be perfect for the job.

porkChop1444d ago

I guess I understand what you're saying. Halo and Half-Life have some surface level similarities. But the style and feel of gameplay, storytelling, etc., are just miles apart. In Half-Life Valve put a heavy emphasis on interactivity and puzzles, be it a jump puzzle, physics-based, etc. Halo doesn't really do any of that.

Maybe they could pull off a spin-off like ODST, where it's its own thing. But I don't personally think they'd be a good fit for a mainline Halo game. I think the resulting game would just be too different, even though it would probably be a good game in its own right. It just wouldn't be Halo. Their approach to game design is very different from Bungie, and even 343 which itself is made up of a lot of ex-Bungie devs.

Review_Rush1444d ago

Drop it, look at some new IP for now

ChubbyBlade1444d ago

Tactical marine based shooter. Play as the covenant during the invasions. Make it M rated again and keep it far away from 343

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Exclusive Interview: "Halo: Edge Of Dawn" Author Kelly Gay

from paulsemel.com: In this exclusive Q&A, the author of five previous "Halo" novels talks about this "Halo Infinite" sequel story about Master Chief.

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rpad109d ago

waiting for Halo: Edge of Seventeen, just like the white-winged dove

beerhound109d ago

These stories do rock a little of my wild heart.

I'll shut up now.

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Halo Infinite Content Support Update Ending on November 18

Halo Infinite's live service updates will be ending with Operation: Infinite set to be released on November 18, 2025.

-Foxtrot189d ago

So much for that 10 year platform plan

darthv72189d ago

...and its barely been 4 years. LMAO

DarXyde188d ago

Halo Infinite?
Hell no, It's Finished.

... I'll see myself out.

crazyCoconuts188d ago

Taking the "in" out of Infinite

RaidenBlack188d ago

... and he broke into the attic again and got his drums back.

Yang_kai188d ago

Well good luck with the next game, been on almost all systems will help the game life and strengthen their community with fresh blood.

RaidenBlack188d ago

no MP till Halo 7, as per leak
Don't know if it'll release parallelly with Halo 2R or Halo 3R or totally after the trilogy of remakes.

Inverno188d ago

Onto the next 10 year promise! When that turns out to be more Unreal slop you can drop it and promise the same for the game after.

franwex188d ago (Edited 188d ago )

I’m one of the 15 people that regularly play this. Oh well. Hopefully the game will retain a small dedicated player base.

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Halo art director leaves studio after 17 years with ominous message alluding to discontent

Glenn Israel writes: "As of today and after seventeen long years, I am officially no longer contributing to the Halo universe. There is little more I can say for the moment, though I intend to share this particular story in its entirety when it is absolutely safe to do so next year. In the meantime, I have a message for anyone and everyone who needs to hear it.

I know that the state of our industry seems dire, but never forget that you are *free to choose*. No illusion of security nor promise of wealth or fame or power is worth trading away your health, your dignity, your ethics or values - and no one can force you to. Stay strong, take evidence when necessary, and find where you belong."

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Bathyj217d ago

My god.
There's a story for next year.

VenomUK216d ago

I’m really disappointed to learn there are still people/morale problems. I thought the whole point of rebranding 343i to Halo Studios was to signal that real changes had been made - not to cynically rebrand to paper over the problems.

I really hope the Halo CE remake is great and gets people hyped for the future of the series.

DarXyde216d ago

It's inevitable with the modern landscape. Even if some issues have been assuaged, new ones crop up all the time.

I'm willing to bet AI and the lack of regulation is causing substantial upset.

shinXseijuro217d ago (Edited 217d ago )

He said something very marking . We tend to complain a lot about the industry but deep down I realize that we never have we been offered this crazy amount of games all available for you to play now . You can literally play any sorts of games in 2025 . Nobody is forcing you to buy the latest COD or the latest BF . You’re more of a 8 bit cozy gaming guy there’s a whole niche of modern games for that . You like micromanaging there’s games for that . I feel like we have been spoiled so much we just stopped being realistic and thinking for ourselves . We follow trends cry about stuff online when you are the buyer you have the power .

Notellin216d ago

I'm not buying any games until another Immersive sim is made.

PhillyDonJawn217d ago

....wth happened over there?
Does this confirm a new Halo by next year?
What did they want him to do that made him feel it was morally wrong or a insult to his integrity?

-Foxtrot216d ago

Well how about that, a name change doesn’t fix internal issues

Who would have thought

jznrpg216d ago

MS was throwing money around for a long time but now it’s time to pay the Piper.

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