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I Was Wrong About The Nintendo Switch OLED

When it was revealed, Aaron was pretty hard on the Switch OLED. He even told himself there was no point in getting one. He's here to say that he was wrong.

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Magog1671d ago

Vita launched at $249.99 and had an OLED screen in 2011. The Switch could and should have launched with one in 2017 and at the same price.

Neonridr1670d ago (Edited 1670d ago )

the internals of the Switch blow the Vita out of the water though. Why should it be the same price? That's like saying the PS5 shouldn't be more expensive than the PS4 because of the time added when it comes to decreasing tech prices.

Magog1670d ago

You do realize in the 6 years between them tech changed, right? The cost to make them is likely close to identical at the time of their respective releases. Switch was built with left over phone parts.

Neonridr1670d ago

@Magog - perhaps, but tech prices always go down. That's like saying that when the PS5 specs are determined 2 years in advance the prices for said parts have decreased. That doesn't mean that the company adjusts their prices based on current tech prices.

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Ryushaa1670d ago

It must be hard being such fanboy. You said:
"That's like saying that when the PS5 specs are determined 2 years in advance the prices for said parts have decreased."
In the case of the Switch, yes. They put a already available tech 2 years old, Tegra X1 launched in 2015. Also, no, Nintendo didn't change a single thing in the Soc design (Remember the first switch model that was easily hackable?)

darkrider1670d ago

Please... The switch was outdated before launch. Everything was old. Nvidia already had better tech and they went with old and much cheaper parts. Nintendo is doing a lot of money on every switch sold from day one. No other company was able to do that.

OpenGL1670d ago

The Switch launched almost 6 years after the Vita. That's like saying the Series X blows the launch PS4 out of the water.

Good-Smurf1670d ago (Edited 1670d ago )

The thing is Sony didn't held back in terms of specs with Vita but Nintendo did with Switch.
They can easily sell it at $250 and with drift prone Joy Con cheap build on Switch itself and Dock I'm starts to wonder how
much cost cutting they made in order to get the profit margin they want?

babadivad1670d ago

Switch was build with ancient tech sitting in a warehouse because no one else wanted it. It was built with the cheapest materials. When the Switch launched, the phones released that year blew the switch out of the water.

GameZenith1670d ago

So that still does not defend Nintendo from not having the OLED as part of the original 2017 model.

If hardware in 2011 was able to do it, why couldnt 2017 hardware?

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Notellin1669d ago

@Neonridr "perhaps, but tech prices always go down. That's like saying that when the PS5 specs are determined 2 years in advance the prices for said parts have decreased. That doesn't mean that the company adjusts their prices based on current tech prices."

This is perhaps the least intelligent thing I've read in a while. They absolutely do try to drive the price down up until launch. That's why we never know the prices until they start manufacturing.

I mean you can't seriously believe what you wrote can you?

Realms1669d ago

Are you really trying to justify Nintendo's lazy attempt at upgrading the Switch? I get why they aren't going all in on a next generation Switch right now but let's no act like Nintendo is doing something that most people want by just upgrading their screen. I bet that if you asked most Nintendo fans what would they rather have a better screen or a Switch pro or whatever they end up calling it they rather have new hardware.

neutralgamer19921669d ago

Neo

Please stop defending Nintendo they always use the least expensive specs to make the most amount of profits. That's why we are happy there are Microsoft and a Sony in console gaming to move their tech forward if it was up to Nintendo we would still be stuck with switch level specs

The day they sold a cardboard box for $60 and media/Fanboys praised them was the day I knew they can get away with anything. I mean selling a cardboard box was called innovation

Their consoles rarely go down in price their software rarely go on sale so they only care about making profits and as much as possible and yes every company is in the business of making profit but not everybody goes about it the same way

While Xbox and Playstation get a lot of hate Nintendo gets a free pass for pretty much everything. They have the most loyal fanboys in any industry

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strifeblade1670d ago

The vita oled had some defect.

KyRo1670d ago

Every OLED ever can potentially get burn in even 10 years on. It weren't exclusive to the Vita lol

Profchaos1669d ago

OLED was incredibly rare in 2011 the quality of OLED and LCD jumped significantly between 2011 and 2016.

Also even Sony didn't keep up the vita OLED panel removing it in the first revision of the system.

Now I love my vita OLED model I use it frequently still with possibly one of the better hombebrew communities to this day I use it for work commutes and the like regularly still. I thought it was weird the switch launched with a traditional LCD but to give them credit in 2016 a OLED phone was not a thing it was until the galaxy s8 and Samsung bringing ooed back to the mobile device space in 2018 where OLED became a common place in phones.

I'd say this revision was to keep pace with the mobile market and they are not really competing against the vita anymore.

Nintentional1669d ago (Edited 1669d ago )

The Switch is a hybrid portable/home console that shipped with a docking station, a high performance gaming tablet, and two detachable controllers with HD rumble, motion controls and being able to split them individually for 2 player games… You’re not too bright if you think that should cost the same as a Vita, a one dimensional, single use/purpose system. I’m not saying the Vita isn’t great, I absolutely adore my blue Vita 2000 and I love playing PSP games on there, most notably Metal Gear Solid Peace Walker and some other fantastic Vita software. But come on, can you math? They’re not equal in value, far from it and it would have cost more to implement an OLED at launch.

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Knightofelemia1670d ago

Honestly I myself I am happy with my current Switch I never use it in hand held mode mainly docked for the tv. As long as it continues to play games like Metroid Dread then I don't care. Only time I will upgrade my current Switch is if it decided to die or when Nintendo announces the successor to the Switch meaning their next gen system.

Good-Smurf1670d ago

Honestly I was too scared using my Switch on the go it was quite awkward to use since the Joy Con are so tiny and flat my hands are constantly searching and fighting for grip that isn't there.
When I still own one 95% of the time its in Docked mode.

camel_toad1669d ago

I own Metroid Dread but started over as soon as the emulator version hit. It's beautiful in 4k. Sad Nintendo didn't release the rumored pro switch with 4k. I can't go back to 1080p metroid now.

GoodGuy091670d ago

As a huge fan of the vita. Great screen. Games looked hd even for a 540p panel.

RaiderNation1670d ago (Edited 1670d ago )

Thsts great and all but when is Nintendo going to release a hardware revision that actually benefits gamers like me who strictly play in docked mode? First they release an updated model that improved battery life, then they released the smaller, cheaper Switch Lite, then they released the Switch OLED with a bigger, better screen and better kickstand. 3 revisions, all of which are to the sole benefit of the hanheld gamer.

Yui_Suzumiya1670d ago

Who would play the Switch on a TV though? The television is meant for bigger consoles.

RaiderNation1670d ago (Edited 1670d ago )

That's a silly question. I could turn that around and ask, who would play video games on a 7" screen when they can play them on a 65" screen? The Switch is a HYBRID console, it's not strictly a handheld. So for you to even ask that question is ridiculous.

Neonridr1670d ago

we played the Wii on a TV, so what's your point?

RaiderNation1669d ago (Edited 1669d ago )

@Neonridr

My point is Nintendo sucks at hardware LOL. And no I never owned a Wii. I never bought into that weak, gimmicky POS. Played my nephew's a couple of times. That was enough. He had Wii Sports and Zelda. Motion controls were cool for about 5 minutes. After that I never wanted to play games that way again. So unless you have a mouse in your pocket, I don't know of this "we" that you speak of.

Lord_Sloth1669d ago

You're right. My circle of friends should be forced to stare at the tiny ass Switch sitting on the counter when we get together and play Smash Bros.

RedDevils1669d ago

Because I like playing on Tv or at home. There reason a Switch is a hybrid console for a reason.

RaiderNation1669d ago (Edited 1669d ago )

Suit yourself but I just can't play that way. The small screen kills my eyes after a while and playing Switch in handheld form is not the most comfortable. My right thumb really cramps up after a while playing that way.

In 2017 when Switch launched, I thought it was a cool little machine and the handheld/home console hybrid design was genius! However for me, the hardware has aged rather quickly and now in 2021 we are playing next gen consoles on 4K TV's where features like 4K resolution, 60fps, ray tracing, are becoming the norm. It's very hard to go back to playing 720p games with terrible aliasing and low frames. Im not expecting a Switch revision on the level of PS5 but damn give us SOMETHING! Release an updated dock that at least gets us to something like dynamic 1440p/60fps. Hell i dont even have to have ray tracing but get us a LITTLE closer to modern day standards. Even something at Xbox Series S level would be a huge help!

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Eamon1670d ago

I think the answer to your question is that the Switch being handheld is the most critical part of its sales success.

It's biggest appeal is the fact you can play "console games" on the go. I'm like you, I mainly play Switch docked, so I was hoping to see a Switch Pro with upgraded spec and 4K output, but sadly it's not to be. Nintendo will most likely release a new console before that happens.

GameZenith1670d ago

Remember, the GameCube was Nintendo's last core gaming console that wasnt centered around gimmicks like the Wii.

Handheld has always been Nintendo's saving grace since the Gameboy so it is more comfortable for Nintendo to focus on handheld stuff and ignore console specific stuff.

Yui_Suzumiya1669d ago (Edited 1669d ago )

I was just making a point that I use my 50" 4K television for my Playstation consoles and I use my Switch Lite for small screen gaming. I'm not really interested in Nintendo games so I have my Switch for visual novels and big triple A titles that are graphically intensive like Doom Eternal, Dying Light, Resident Evil, Crysis, BioShock and stuff like that. I just like seeing how far they can push the outdated tech. Alot of the games I own on PS4 as well but there's just something really amazing about laying in bed and playing them on a smaller screen. I have the Lite but I'm getting the OLED soon for an even better screen.

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You Didn’t Just Buy a Console. You Joined an Ecosystem

Modern consoles aren’t one-time purchases. How PlayStation, Nintendo, and Xbox keep you inside their ecosystems.

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Nintendo wants to avoid Switch 2 scalping by making enough for demand

President Shuntaro Furukawa says he doesn’t think component shortages will be an issue due to new plan.

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ZycoFox682d ago

Probably be using 3+ year old chips by the time it launches

Tacoboto681d ago

The 2017 Switch is based on the 2015 Tegra X1 so even if Nintendo is using technology from 2022, that alone still represents a significant improvement.

Outside_ofthe_Box680d ago

How many decades has it been since Nintendo consoles been about power?

Inverno681d ago

Should open pre-orders through the E-shop for a period before making it available through stores. And now that COVID is out the way, you can make in store preorders mandatory too. People interested wouldn't have much of an issue driving by if it meant keeping scalpers at bay for a bit.

CrimsonWing69681d ago

I mean, the problem is these a-holes have bots that eat up every sites inventory. Then they sell it on eBay for stupid prices. No matter what you try to do we’re still going to have to fight through these human pieces of sh*t to get these damn consoles at launch.

phoenixwing680d ago (Edited 680d ago )

Well I'll either see if I can get one online against bots or wait till they're saturated and buy in a brick and morter store. Waiting isn't an issue anyway I have enough games to wait out the shortage

FinalFantasyFanatic680d ago (Edited 680d ago )

I can't really understand people rushing out to buy a console at release, I'll wait a year, two years, etc... until I can walk into a store and buy one if I have to, I'm not paying scalper prices.

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Are the Console Wars Over? Welcome to the Handheld Wars.

Looks like the epic console wars might be coming to an end, and a new battlefield is heating up: the Handheld Wars. With heavy hitters like the Steam Deck, Lenovo Legion Go, and the trusty Nintendo Switch, portable gaming is taking the spotlight. These handhelds bring the power of consoles to your hands, offering a variety of gaming experiences for both casual and hardcore gamers. While PlayStation, Xbox, and Nintendo aren't going anywhere, the rise of handheld gaming is giving us more ways to play than ever before.

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darthv72705d ago

console wars are stupid to begin with... let alone handheld wars.

GameGeeked705d ago

Console wars, and possibly handheld wars, may seem silly, but they persist because there will always be passionate fan.

darthv72705d ago

Being passionate about the games is fine. The plastic boxes... not so much.

InUrFoxHole704d ago

Passionate is one thing. But fans went full retard

Cacabunga703d ago

Darth

You need some kind of plastic box to play them games.. and people tend to choose the best one. Console wars allows games and consoles to reach new heights.

S2Killinit704d ago

You really don't get to speak. Come on.

Ironmike704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

S2killinit u just as bad

S2Killinit703d ago (Edited 703d ago )

@Ironmike
I’m not as relentless as some on here. In fact, I only respond in kind and I got pulled into this site after seeing how some commenters were always rushing in to be the first comment and detail conversations in favor of their box. Now that their console of choice is doing badly, they preach kumbaya. Just saying.

crazyCoconuts704d ago

Is it implied that "console wars" refers to the fans warring vs. the war the platform holders are constantly in?
Obviously the platform holders have been at war and will be as long as they have to compete for our dollars.

ravens52704d ago

They're fine, as long as you know this isn't REAL. I can say how much distaste I have for MS but still have a best friend that only games on Xbox. Its not that serious .

Charlieboy333704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

Darth, do you not have preferences for certain things in life ? You know like a certain brand of phone, car, clothing, restaurant, etc.

Or are you one of those boring limp people that like to sit on the fence with everything because the 'conflict' is too much for you to handle?

There is fuckall wrong with having a console war....it keeps things fun and interesting. Well unless you're a supporter of Xbox that is.

Most of the intelligent self respecting Xbox supporters have jumped ship and all that's left now are the mouth breathing knuckle draggers.

Ironmike704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

So u resort to insults to win argument, u already lost bro .

Charlieboy333703d ago

@ Ironmike Whatever you say sunshine.....yawn

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Knightofelemia705d ago

Console wars were great when it was SNES vs Genesis. Was always a great topic in the school yard. You got the Genesis port the friend got the SNES port. Always fun to compare who was better. I always looked forward after the school week and rent a game for the SNES. Now the console wars are pretty much done and over with PS3 vs XB360 was pretty much the last of the console wars. Anything after that is pretty much one sided with almost everybody going PS4 and PS5. To me the console wars started to drop after the PS3 and XB360 ran their course. Be interesting to see the handheld wars I am in the market for a new handheld system.

GameGeeked705d ago

The SNES vs Genesis days were definitely memorable. I was lucky to have both consoles :) It's interesting to see how the focus is shifting now. Handheld wars could bring back some of that excitement. Which handheld system are you considering?

anast704d ago

I was on the Genesis side. We see how well that went.

RaiderNation704d ago

I had both but I preferred the Genesis for the sports games and I liked Sega's 6 button controller better for fighting games. That D pad was a godsend to pull off Street Fighter moves!

RaiderNation704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

The "golden age" of gaming to me was between 1995 and 2000 when it was a 3 horse race between Sony, Nintendo, and Sega. For me, there WAS no console war because I genuinely loved all 3 platforms, with each bringing something unique to the table. I miss that era.

anast704d ago

I switched to Sony day 1.

PhillyDonJawn704d ago

Anast, no one would've ever thought that about you. Totally surprising news/s

Fist4achin704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

Mortal Kombat was superior on the genesis!

FinalFantasyFanatic703d ago

It also helps that back then, they used very different hardware, today's consoles have very similar internals to each other, especially modern Playstations and Xboxes.

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fsfsxii704d ago

Handheld wars aka which system is gimped more and destroys your hands faster.

anast704d ago

I would say with the defeat of Xbox and Nintendo being it's own thing in family friendly handheld gaming, the console wars are over. For those of us that enjoy that kind of entertainment and are aware of this aspect, it was fun while it lasted.

There is no handheld war Nintendo owns the handheld landscape.

-Foxtrot704d ago

" There is no handheld war Nintendo owns the handheld landscape "

If the Xbox handheld is true I won't how it will do against Nintendo, even Sony couldn't keep up and the PSP was fantastic

RaiderNation704d ago (Edited 704d ago )

The Steamdeck has currently sold around 3 million worldwide. A handheld Xbox would be lucky to double that. As others have suggested, there IS no handheld war. Nintendo owns it.

Ironmike704d ago

The defeat of xbox my god u for real it's a console u talking g like its real war the defeat that's saddest statement I read in here

anast704d ago

"that's saddest statement I read in here"

Your not very self aware. I get it.

The Wood704d ago

The xbox as a console is a shadow of what it was during the 360 era. IF the term war offends you then I guess that you lean towards the green brand.. Just a guess mind you.. Regardless, the brand has been mismanaged for way too long and that's a key factor as to why the gappage as increased yoy between it and its closest rival.

DarXyde704d ago

In a handheld war, Nintendo cannot be beaten.

PSP was a surprisingly robust effort, and it came the closest... While doing half as well as the DS.

badz149704d ago

closest? By any metric imaginable, it was not even close. it's easy to assume the that the PSP might as well be considered a success but it sold over 80mil vs over 150mil by the DS. It was not until the failure of Wii U, Xbone and Vita did people finally realize how well the PSP actually did. before all those, it was generally called a failure by many, considering how badly the DS crushed it in sales.

NotoriousWhiz704d ago

If the PSP's 80 million isn't a success, then what is the 3DS' 75 million?

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