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Will the PS4 have an optical disk drive?

PS4talk writes:

The revolution of the internet is in full swing, as is the drive on reducing our 'carbon footprint'. With internet speeds continuing to increase, such things as downloadable movies and game demos for the current PS3 have become available. If Sony decide to insist on all PS4 content being downloadable only it would remove the need for an optical disk drive.

TrevorPhillips6368d ago

that would be a great idea but i don't know if they will do that yet

beardtm6367d ago

Will there even BE a PS4?

Is it even worth it for Sony?

phosphor1126367d ago

I dont think broadband will be up to par to download 8g+ games, so yes it will have one, more than likely a bluray drive still..unless they really do hold this PS3 for another 8 years like they said they would.

Come back in another 5 - 6 years, then start speculating.

LethalToxins6367d ago

I see why you've lost so many bubbles.

Yes, there will be a PS4 and yes, there will be an XBOX3.

yojoe266367d ago

...uh.........you're kidding.......right?? Oh...a joke....hehe...he.(clears throat). Well I guess from a certain point of view it wouldn't be worth it for them. That is if you hate incredible high def movies and games, Incredibly solid and reliable hardward, and the highest technology available in the console market. But....you know.....

RussDeBuss6367d ago

25GB on a 5Mbps conection will take 55hours+, I can see games being a lot bigger than 25GB, MGS5?.

I know by the time PS4 comes out many conections will be faster, but there will still be plenty of places where they cant even reach 1Mpbs now.
also, many broadband providers have usage caps, some as low as 5GB, or lower.
seriously, the net infrastructure is just not up to total mainstream Digital Distribution yet, and will not be for many years to come.
htye may have games available for download as an option, like they do with GT5p and warhawwk, etc., but will be optional. you sill still be able to, and most people will, get the games on disc. be it bluray, or something newer, like the pioneer 400GB thing

acedoh6367d ago

Having most games available for download but they will not get rid of an optical drive or some type of place to take games. Broadband is just starting to become established and it will take at least ten years before a nation wide standard is the norm. Expect the PS5 but not the PS4. Even with downloads only you would have to have a very large hard drive considering many PS3 games tip over 10 gigs and some are over 20 gigs.

NaiNaiNai6367d ago

the idea of DL games is great but only for jnp and euro. since the US hasn't fully gotten into fast internet. Euro has connection of 50+mbp for less the 50 bucks a month same for Jpn
-nai-

lokiroo4206367d ago

Without a disc drive say goodbye to buying used games and selling used games, you will be stuck with your purchases, I say that is a really bad idea, Gamestop's across america tremble with fear!

buy a ps36367d ago (Edited 6367d ago )

beardtm: Will there even BE a PS4?
Is it even worth it for Sony?
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LOL
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answer: YES! if something makes a business millions of dollars(US) their going to so more of it.

AuToFiRE6367d ago

NO its not a good idea, in fact if sony does, they will lost a lot of money because a lot of people dont have the bandwidth

Fallen_Angel6367d ago

LOL ps4 using DD only wouldnt that be funny seeing how all the ps3 fanboys are saying DD will fail.

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Fishy Fingers6368d ago

Yes, a Blu-Ray drive (probably 4 or 6X).

Panthers6367d ago

You sure?
PS1: CD Drive
PS2: DVD Drive
PS3: Blu-Ray Drive
PS4: ??? But I bet its an upgrade.

hay6367d ago

Well, IF 400gb bd's will be available to the market(not as some uber awesome magical formats which are capable of holding gadzillion of bytes but we don't hear about them anymore, soon after the news) only upgrade will be needed since it may be able to hold data needed for quad hd. But if someone invent cheap and affordable technology that can store more than bd on single layer disc it may be a replacement. It all depends.

RyuStrife6367d ago

I actually think it might be a 12x blu ray that reads 400gb BD-R and BDRE(unless they take that out for preventing Piracy?). There's already an 8x blu ray. haha

xhairs96367d ago

I don't think they'll remove the drive simply for one thing: piracy. How many of you right now have multiple user names on your PS3 so you can download your friends games he bought from the PS Store? My point exactly, they're going to have to do away with this which brings up another problem, what if you lose your game? Can you re-download it? Etc. etc. There's just too many other issues right now with no answers to be able to do away with the disc drive.

However, we still have 8 more years left in the PS3 before we worry about answering these.

SaiyanFury6367d ago

The next PS console will most likely have an optical drive of some form. Whether it's a standard BD drive for which the discs can be up to 400GB, an ungraded version or some other media format. I seriously doubt that DD will be in the next PS simply because it's not practical at a time like this or in the near future. With games getting so large, even with compression and the internet infrastructure as it is, it's just not feasible. Sure, some people might have access to connection speeds up to and beyond 25mbps, but those connections are usually very expensive and even then with the current trend of ISPs throttling large amounts of bandwidth it wouldn't make sense to DD to be a major software delivery model. I, myself have access to only 1.5mbps and at best can download at a maximum speed of 150KB/second. I'd need to be able to get more like 1.5MB/second for DD to be a viable option.

no-spin6367d ago

The tendency in the Play Station brand has been to use the newest media format available. PS1 said no to cartridge, CD in. PS2 took DVD And PS3 Blue Ray. its difficult to predict such a thing, but most surely like you said, they will be using whatever is the newest media at the time. Doubt it will be DD only though.

Play Station will keep going until the end of Sony as we know it. PS has had great success, and the PS3 is going to stay with us for a long time, even after PS4 is out.

Currently i enjoy PSP + PS2 + PS3
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hfaze6367d ago

Honestly, it will need some sort of optical drive for PS3 backwards compatibility.

One thing that is common for a Playstation console is a lack of titles at launch. Backward compatibility at least allows you to play your older games (and usually graphically enhanced a bit... God of War II looked amazing on my 60GB PS3 connected to my 1080p 37" LCD, not so great when I connected my PS2 to the TV using component and 1080i.)

Sony may want to start moving towards digital distribution, but I think that the PS4 will still be a bit too early... It may end up being the stepping stone to 100% digital distribution with the PS5.

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OgTheClever6368d ago (Edited 6368d ago )

It would be foolish not to with all of the bandwidth caps starting to appear now. Also a faster Blu Ray drive will most likely be sufficient since the discs have far more room to improve in size as opposed to DVD from the PS2 days.

pp6367d ago

Their will be NO PS4 Sony is already in a debt which thanks to PS3 its going to take Sony 20yrs to clear.

GVON6367d ago (Edited 6367d ago )

unless they use a the advancement to the current Ps3 cell and a few more SPU,lets say 30,and use a standard HD format called blu-ray,all these prices should be quite cheap by lets say 2014,and Sony's early investment will begin to take shape,they could even have the price advantage because Msoft and Nintendo don't have their own hardware tech in their back pockets.

But then you could be right,nobody knows what will happen.

pupu6367d ago

bu bu bub bu bub the cell!!!!!!!11

PS3 only using 30% of the cell CONFIRMED!

PS4 to be a flop FACT!

Stubacca6367d ago

Man you suck! Making wild specultion about how a company manages it's finances. Who are you? Former CEO of RBS?

Let's just get this straight. The PS3 dominates the console market in ability. It might not have the sales volumes of the wii, but who cares? I own an amazing system that trumps all others and aint goin anywhere anytime soon. It's my preference. Deal with it and get a life. FACT!

This site is goin to the fanboy dogs.

Lykon6367d ago

PP you know what? As much as i love you and want to tickle your balls for being cheeky, sometimes you really do suck elderly mens unwashed anus's. I'm talking with bits of encrusted tiolet paper and traces of fecal matter from 1 month ago.

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Why o why6367d ago

thats for sure. Why take backwards steps

hfaze6367d ago

Why not? Microsoft did! ;-)

And technically, the Wii did as well... The GC used mini DVD discs (kinda like for DVD camcorders), and they just went with full-sized DVD discs this time... ;-)

But I do agree... Onwards and upwards!

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CrimsonWing6950d ago

I fail to see how this is AI shhhhlllloooop. Looking at the different games they showed, this has made many of them look far better.

isarai_lee50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

It's AI slop because it ignores the artists intent and changes the details ESPECIALLY when it comes to character faces. The scariest part of it is introducing it as the next stage of DLSS, a feature where the current iteration already has controversy surrounding it and for quite a lot of games cannot be fully disabled. So reasonably the precident is already set for what path this could take, and it's not good

blacktiger50d ago

In case you didn't watch the video then let me point just one part. It overrides the lighting. Then the question of what is the point of ray tracing cost and so on. Many of the lighting deletes shadow, including shadow on the face like eyes even chin.

Chard50d ago

Why stop at art when it comes to human input - why not just have AI play the game for us, remove human input altogether

theshizer50d ago

If you don’t like it, just don’t enable it. Personally I think it looks great from the videos I have seen.

isarai_lee50d ago

And what about when you can't? Cause there's plenty of games where you cannot fully disable dlss already, i mean we're well into an era where it's a major crutch for developers to cover up their cut corners, why would this be any different?

blacktiger50d ago

You are playing with people's money and allow Nvidia to scam you.

In case you didn't watch the video then let me point just one part. It overrides the lighting. Then the question of what is the point of ray tracing cost. This is all lie to raise the cost of the graphic card.

Andrew33650d ago

Making characters look more realistic not ok because we want the developer to decide on how the game was intended to look. - Internet

Change entire game through mods thus changing how the developers intended the game to be is ok. - Internet

isarai_lee50d ago

Something consumers can do to a product after they have purchased it, entirely optional and can always be undone with a fresh install

VS

The leading gaming hardware manufacturer making this the next iteration of the main AA/Upscaling technique that is heavily relied upod by modern devs and is not optional in most games.

Not at all the same but nice try

jwillj2k450d ago

At the moment you need 2 5090’s just to get an image on the screen so this is all vaporware until proven otherwise.

Andrew33650d ago

The good news is you can just not use it as well.

Christopher50d ago

It's all about choice in the end. But, I would say that calling it 'more realistic' is quite a stretch. It looks like AI art, and that's rarely realistic.

Urrakia3450d ago

All the comments I see are reminding me of how we got to the current state of gaming when microtransactions were first introduced: "It's completely optional guys, we promise! If you don't like it just don't buy it!"

I think we all know how that ended up.

Popsicle50d ago (Edited 50d ago )

I had the same exact thought the first time this was brought up in a separate article about a week ago. Took me straight back to the conversations surrounding “horse armor.” Just don’t buy it they said. Years later, many IPs I previously enjoyed are so infected with monetization schemes that I don’t even consider purchasing them anymore.

DLSS 5 and the like are the same thing wrapped in a different package. History rhymes but many of us never learn from it.

blacktiger50d ago

Biggest Scam. Overrides lighting and shadow. So why keep Ray tracing? It's all a scam to raise graphic card. We now see Nvidia with Microsoft downturn anything against them. Sony is next!