I can't help but think this game will Flop and sales will be poor like every game that has come and gone on ps3.Also in multi-player it won't top Halo3 and COD4.

I respect GG alot for what they've done with KZ2. I believe them when they say the improvements will be substantial.

OBAMA!!!

LMAO..... XD

U get bubbles for that....

Why you ask? Remember that the journalists have had this game(preview code) way before December 4th. KILLZONE 2..FTW.

Well every reviewer better be careful how they review the other fps's that come out after this.

That is if they want to be seen as unbiased and consistent that is....

Just by videos alone.. GRAPHICS, GAMEPLAY, STORY, and MULTIPLAYER all look better than GTA4.. By a HUGE MARGIN.. If this game doesnt score higher than COD4 or GTA4 Ill be surprised.. Im not a huge fan of FPS.. Ima Socom addict (yes even with its server issuses).. But Every time I see Single player vids or Beta multiplayer vids.. I cant help but think.. I might put Socom away for awhile, maybe a long while. Once this comes out..

Its looks absolutely amazing.. Theres no denying that, I dont care what console your a fanboy of

shooter fans that seem to be drroling over Gears of War 2 and Halo 3.

They have a great opportunity.

...Its not a flame thrower, its a Napalm thrower, big differnece. and thats what a napalm thrower looks like, it spits out a steam of liquidy looking fire, not a big flaming blast like a flame thrower.

There is no motion control on the sniper on kz2 beta, just if you move your controller the more your sniper will shake - meaning you have to keep your hand steady like a real sniper would :P

Good gravy, who cares what the hair looks like. The game is way to sick looking to worry about who cut who's hair no matter the fasion. Good gravy!

Seriously pp, you have to be the most annoying person I've ever encountered on the internet.

Keep in mind people that this is not the most recent build even though it looks incredible.

OMG WHAT A DAY. I just got back from Leicester square. KZ2 is sooo awesome. Only the face glitch i noticed eve3rything else was fine. PM me if you want me to ask anything?

It looks utterly astounding, I envy you PS3 owners.

I wish there were an option to tone down on the language. The part with the dude and the minigun, heavy suit etc... "Oh F@CK I CAN'T MOVE IN THIS THING!"

This will be interesting come my birthday.... lol....

DESTROYED by the reviewers.

it's funny, reviewers and gamers alike pine endlessly about wanting something DIFFERENT in gaming. they're sick of the same old sh*t. then, when they get it, they complain.

here's a wonderful example:

many reviewers have stated that the FPS genre has gotten tired and stagnant over the years (it has). they want something new.

but then, when a game comes along that at least TRIES to be different, for example Resistance 2 with it's unique weapons (which DOES make the game feel different; how many other FPS titles have you played where the Magnum has an alternate fire of explosive rounds? or a weapon that shoots out buzz saw blades that ricochet off walls, decimating the enemy. or even 300 foot tall bosses?), or Killzone 2 with it's unique feeling controls (your characters and weapons feel realistically "heavy," and it changes the feel of the gameplay, because you have to think more carefully about your movements; it's not a twitch, "floaty" shooter, where you can do a 180 in half a second to get someone attacking from behind), they b*tch and complain that it's not like a game we've ALREADY played before (ie, Call of Duty 4).

so which is it, gaming media? do you want something new (ie, Killzone 2 doesn't feel like any shooter on the market), or do you want the same thing we've had before (ie, "Killzone 2 doesn't control like Call of Duty 4, wah wah wah!")?

also, why is it that games like Call of Duty 4, great game, by the way, gets a free pass for having weapons that are, for lack of a better term, "generic" (i simply mean real world, "normal" weapons), but Killzone 2 is ALREADY being dinged for having "real" looking and feeling weapons as well?

double standards and lack of consistency are what is killing the gaming industry.

while i don't think it will happen, Killzone 2 could BOMB commercially, and it could be entirely because of the media nitpicking it into 6/10 scores over things like "no identity," "you have to fight waves of enemies," "the weapons are too normal and real," "the Helghast don't have any personality," (they're like the Nazis of the future, what more motivation do you need to destroy them?) and any other number of nitpicks that get overlooked for other titles (like Halo and Call of Duty to name only two).

i don't care about reviews, but a lot of gamers do. a lot of casual gamers, who may have had a passing interest in the game will take those review scores for what they are, and most don't even bother to read the body of the review at all, and just look at the score.

here's another example for you, about why i think scoring shouldn't be a part of the review process:

say you're looking at a review for this movie you are interested in. you glance at the score, and the reviewer gave it a 2 out of 5 stars. you think, "oh, that movie isn't very good then, i'll pass on it."

now say that you're reading the body of the review, and the guy says, "i hate the actor who played the main character. i hate the genre the film is in. i hate that the story isn't complex enough. 2/5."

now, what if that actor was your favorite actor? what if the genre of the movie is your favorite genre? what if, for that genre, you don't CARE if the story isn't complex? chances are, you'd rate that movie a bit higher, and go see it. but if you just took that arbitrary score for what it was, without reading the body of the review, you'd miss out.

i urge ALL gamers to read the body of the review, and learn to be more discerning of what are legitimate complaints (ie, "the controls are bad," "the camera is problematic,"), and what are nitpicks (ie, "i don't like the main character's hair," "too much variety," "the game is too short, but i'm having fun with it, but it's too short and the reason why i beat it so fast in the first place is because i'm a reviewer who has a bunch of other games to review before deadline,").

Its been a while i saw ur "LOOOOOOOOONG"commen ts... LOL

Great to hear.

Its so hilarious to see PP and his boyfriend troll on KZ2 threads. Just comes to show that they are really interested in the game considering it makes them click on the thread. But dont you guys feel sorry for yourselves for not getting a PS3? All you guys will be getting is GTA4 DLC in February. Thats kind of sad.

cant wait for this game to flop in sales and score...maybe than ppl will come down

Well, as some have already pointed out most reviewers have had this preview code in their hands for quite some time and I am sure that Guerrilla have had plenty of time to already fix many issues and will no doubt be able to fix even more in the next two months. Even if they shipped it now, though, it would still be an amazing game.

Cool update. Thanks Motherh666

Sony really does need another mainline shooter franchise. They pretty much gave up after the PS3 generation, and I'm really surprised they haven't tried at another high-profile, singleplayer-centric shooter; even if it weren't Killzone or Resistance.

I miss Killzone while I can see why they still do Horizon has some really good things but I do think that Horizon is overrated imo.

Or how about studios focus on projects that they feel passionate about, and not be forced to make something they have little interest in. It shows in the final product.

It’s still got potential for the modern era. The DNA is all there. The install base is there. The interest is there. The time is now.

Killzone 2 and 3 were farkin brilliant and way better than halo

Too bad they've abandoned em smh, then theres sony barely even acknowledging what us fans want. Every time they sale a certain high amount it get like that with them smh

Because Killzone games are awesome, that's the reason.

New ip after 3'rd horizon please 🙏

Give it to Bungie. The Helghast are awesome enemies and Bungie could make something really cool

not enough interest to keep it alive

I’m beating a dead horse here… but Resisitance FOM gun lay out was so fun, multiplayer was one of my top favorite experiences. Insomniac nailed it and I would love a remaster and maybe a redo with Reisistance 2. They listens to players who were wanting a Halo killer and it kind of lost its character from the first.

Warhawk, if they had just remade the first one not Starhawk which offered nice things like the build and battle.. but Warhawk was the best arcade shooter I ever played. Back when you didn’t have battle passes and you actually had to get certain amount of kills or ribbons to unlock different paint skins on the Warhawks and armor for your player.. Look at the success of Helldivers 2, it’s a fun game and it reminds me of Warhawk in a way. I’ve been wanting a remake or sequel since the beginning of the ps4 gen.. it’s hurts to have hope nowadays. Even with the demise of the studios Sony has a steady fan base.

Killzone game after Killzone 2 play style would be nice

Motorstorm would be epic with the visual upgrade, maybe this game would be a harder sell with the genre being not as popular nowadays..

Resistance franchise, Motorstorm and Dirt 2 which was fun as heck. Add Dead Space 2 as well.

I quickly looked and only saw the words PS5 Remaster and a picture of Fall of Mans logo

Ahhhh shit, well maybe one day

Resistance 1-3 remastered with online

Kill zone 1-3 remastered with online

God of war PS3 games and PSP games collection

Infamous 1-2 with all dlc please we need this. It’s such an underrated franchise and so much potential. In this age of super hero media craze Sony should utilize infamous

White knight chronicles 1-2

Warhawk and starhawk

Motorstorm series

MGS4

Easy money would be to remake Resistance and Killzone series, rather than just a remaster. And PS5 desperately needs some couch co-op shooters so this would scratch that itch.

Infamous 1+2 and KZ 2+3

Deus Ex Human Revolution

GTA IV needs one.
Still stuck on PS3 and 360.

PS3 ended up been a beast of a console, slow out of the gate, picked up steam, smashed through the finish line. The 1st PS3 slim is still one of my favourite consoles. So solid, great games, by the time GTA5 and the last of us had come out it was a clear winner for me

Nice to see that they included Pupetteer in this list.

"PS3 may not have been the strongest generation"

Meanwhile...just looking at exclusives alone and not even third party titles

Uncharted was born
Demon's Souls was born
Metal Gear Solid 4
God of War 3
The Last of Us was born
Little Big Planet was born
Warhawk
Killzone 2 and 3
Infamous was born
Resistance was born
Motorstorm was born
Gran Turismo
Heavy Rain
Journey
Shadow of the Colossus returned paving the way for the remake in the PS4 generation
PS Plus was born

Sorry bud, but the PS3 generation was amazing and featured the greatest console comeback in history.

That said, I'd love it if Warhawk returned or Metal Gear Solid 4. It needs to not be shackled to the PS3 generation anymore. A Killzone 2 remake would be insane with modern graphics and that art direction.

I really miss this gen of gaming. It felt like the last truly "great" era for videogames before the modern approach really took hold.

The PS3 was such a glorious console. The UI, the games, the free online...just incredible.

Add Mag to that list.

I would pay good money for a Warhawk remake. Socom too. The last Socom game just didn’t do it justice. Folklore could use a remaster or remake as well.
Several other titles I would like to remade with the amount of visual fidelity the current gen has over the past consoles it could help articulate the games that we’ve loved growing up. I would love even some ps2 titles to remade.. Dark Cloud from ps2, Legacy of Kain series but don’t know what will come of it sense it was bought by Embracer group and all there layoffs.

This strategy is exactly what helped ruin Xbox. Sony more than Microsoft know when to let a franchise go and that is important to keep things fresh. The old games are there if you want to play them.

Resistance series and Killzone 2 & 3 remasters/remakes. Make it happen. They will print money.

FF13 is top of this list for me. No matter your opinion on it, it being the only numbered offline FF out of all 16 not to be on new consoles is odd. GTA IV would be great too

The only reason my PS3 is still connected is because of the Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm games that I still love to play. I am for remaking or remastering them.

Would absolutely love a remastered collection of the resistance games

Resistance 1-3 and Killzone 1-3 too. Folklore and 3 Dot Heroes are underrated gems.

Why remaster games that ps5 players can't access when you can remaster a 4 year old game like tlou2 that was already patched with ps5 improvements

Would love a remake of the first Resistance game and also Tools of Destruction.

A gem of a gen, imo! So much IP to pluck.

Infamous 1&2 will sadly always be ignored by Sony, not even a ps4 remaster the whole gen, smh but uncharted, horizon, even days gone had next gen upgrades sheesh 🤦🏽 mane even tho Sony is still doing pretty good in the console business they are a lil big headed lol, I never played the resistance series but it would of been dope to see those games updated as well, we fans get lil surprises here n there but things we really are into having and being vocal about gets passed over like a mf 🤣😩

Remasters are a waste of time and developer resources. Real Devs make new games.

God I would live a Killzone or Resistance collection. Really hoping for a new one in either franchise down the line, loved both series.

I’d say new sequels instead.

Got be resistance /prototype as well

How much prefer the killzone universe to that of Horizon's.

Killzone again pls 🥺

Gratz Guerilla, amazing Studio and engine, love Decima!

I was never a huge fan of Killzone, but thoroughly enjoy Horizon. Guerrilla are superb developer and easily up there with the best of the best.

Need a killzone 2 remake from the ground up.

One of the most creative studios out. I hope they keep it up.

Great studio, loved the Killzone series, I wish they would do a remake of the first three games. Horizon is a real step up and truly put Guerrilla Games on the map.

Too bad I never got a chance to play Shellshock: Nam’67 would have loved to try that game out back in the days to see what were their beginnings.

Bring back killzone (maybe in 3rd person perspective)

It would fantastic to see what they could do in Killzone after the lessons learned through Horizon.

Or heck, give us even a short linear FPS from the people who designed Cauldron THETA in the Burning Shores expansion. Even just flying into it (after gliding around and finding its opening amongst the lava and Sunwings perched around it, with other bigger machines just along the path toward it) was an incredible experience.

Great work until now. Keep on this path

Hope they get the opportunity to create a new IP this gen as well.

Forbidden West is awesome, It’s pretty damn big compared to Zero Dawn and it takes a little while to get your skills up and get the equipment you need to fully explore the game (not going to spoil it) but once you do those things and start fighting the big ass machines it really is amazing. Some cool side quests to where you hold the fate of peoples lives by your choice and the cauldrons look amazing. Lots of skills , combos, special moves and add ons for your weapons so you can approach fights many ways. Looking forward to the name game but I wonder how/if Silas will be a part of it or not ? Sad he’s gone.

Killzone games weren’t the best shooters but damn did they look purty!!!!

Killzone 2 remade with the multiplayer

20 years of mid-tier games and they are trending down.

I'm hyped for whenever Horizon 3 releases but Killzone 1 needs a remake BAD and 2 & 3 need remasters. Criminal those games are stuck on PS3.

Hold up

Horizon: Zero Dawn sold 24.3 million
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sold 29.81 million

With the way journalists have been consistently saying BotW overshadowed Horizon you’d think the gap between an entry in a new IP and a longrunning one would be bigger Even if you want to include however much the Wii U version of BotW did, both series still did impressive numbers

I never want to hear that Horizon is an overlooked franchise ever again

i really loved the atmosphere and idea of killzone. i hope they revisit it at some point because it always had so much potential.

Bring Back Killzone please or at least a KZ2 remake with MP.