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Nintendo Needs to Upgrade or Replace the Switch, ASAP

Jason says, "I know, the Switch is selling great, and is even outpacing the Wii when the lifecycle sales are matched up, likely in large part due to covid19 which has been a silver lining for the gaming industry in general. “But the Switch is selling just fine, they don’t need to upgrade” – well the PS4 sold really well, too, and so is the PS5. Just because something sells well doesn’t mean it doesn’t need to be improved. The horse and carriage were selling just fine, why do we need cars?!"

Neonridr1917d ago

I agree, the PS4 was in its prime when the Pro came along. Only problem with pushing some more powerful system is you either are still held back by the base Switch or you then have games that are Switch Pro only. And regardless of which option, the complainers will latch on to one of the two.

Sonic-and-Crash1917d ago (Edited 1917d ago )

Nintendo wants to be the Apple of game software...they think they r selling prestige game software that doesnt need to be upgraded visually...lol Sony could have wipe them off the floor if they have done some right moves (buying back Crash , not maintening themselves a lot on bad FPS shooters (Killzone, Resistance ) and funding/creating more games like AstroBot , Dragons Dogma MH etcetc

TravsVoid1917d ago

He thinks a tech demo and niche games would have sold better than the Killzone franchise and Nintendo's IP, let that sink in.

rgraf771917d ago

Umm, you make no sense. Nintendo and Apple are not the same. Totally different business model. (you must be a crappy Android/Windows user) Also Killzone/Resistance were great titles that I wish they would bring back.

phoenixwing1917d ago

You have no business sense

thecodingart1916d ago (Edited 1916d ago )

Apple has literally been on the cutting edge of performance and tech within the phone industry for a decade. Their the ones who drove the ARM movement, and their A based processors have been outperforming competitors by massive leaps and bounds (hence the M1 chip introduction on their MacBook lineup). You’re comparison is extremely poor because Nintendo... well they don’t actually try to push any boundary other than a few gimmicks.

PS: Killzone and Resistance were beloved shooters and arguably defined things within the genres during their time...

Nintentional1916d ago (Edited 1916d ago )

😂😂😂

mikeslemonade1916d ago (Edited 1916d ago )

Right now for Nintendo is either Switch Pro or shut up. The weak hardware hurts the quality of games. I’m tired of playing 720p 30 frames game on my 65inch Oled.

FinalFantasyFanatic1916d ago

If anything, I'd be more inclined to compare Nintendo to Disney, that's a closer comparison.

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Putnum1916d ago

bro u complaing about complainers

Nintentional1916d ago

Well said. This is EXACTLY why I do not want a Switch Pro. All we gotta do is be patient and within 1-2 years from now, we’ll get a Switch 2 that will be completely new hardware and not just a beefier release of the same hardware.

GottaBjimmyb1916d ago (Edited 1916d ago )

I just want a pro for better resolution, Nintendo games honestly look pretty great even with the switch being pretty weak due to art style and optimization.

Improved resolution and framerate would be an insta purchase for me. especially if it was better resolution in handheld mode, because it is terrible ppi currently.

Atom6661916d ago

Mild update would do fine. But I don't see the value in supporting pro-only games. Nintendo loves their "New 3DS" models though. So we'll see.

Might as well wait for Switch 2 imo. I think the next system will be fully BC, and cross gen will last awhile for them. Their streaming will keep improving too.

I believe we'll see a Switch 2 in late 2023. Question is the chipset. Personally, I'm hopeful we see a new custom Tegra chip based largely on Orin (ampere).

Neonridr1915d ago

the funny thing was only a couple of games required the "New" 3DS though. Aside from giving us that little analog nub, I really didn't see the need for the upgrade.

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VersusDMC1917d ago

Nintendo can't get games out fast enough without having to worry about 4k...so a 4k switch would just make games take longer to make.

gamer78041917d ago

they need to just invests in more hardware engineers, the software division can focus on software and how to scale stuff

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gamer78041917d ago (Edited 1917d ago )

@tiqila Uh no they work with amd... investing is paying money. But yes they do need hardware guys on their end as well

Atom6661916d ago

You mean Nvidia?

Their HW team could use some improvement, sure. Especially on evolving the joycon issues.

But all of their software teams need the grow exponentially for 4k. They've been growing in 1st party here and there. And rumors were that they were telling devs to aim for 4k with new projects

My guess is that is still for Switch 2.

gamer78041916d ago

Nvidia amd, Qualcomm whoever they want to make their next chipsets

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Neonridr1917d ago

having Mario render at native 4K instead of 1080p has nothing to do with how long the game takes to make. Textures are just a higher resolution.

Exvalos1917d ago

Shhhhh be careful your speaking logic, that is not welcome here.

RgR1916d ago

You're forgetting the optimization requirement for making sure those textures appear on time on the screen given the power of the console. They'd likely need to tweak things when everything on screen is higher resolution texture and perhaps too demanding on the console. Then they'd need to see about prioritizing certain textures or models over others.

This all takes time if you don't have a powerful enough system to just force through all of it.

Neonridr1915d ago

@RgR - I'm not saying there wouldn't have to be some changes here and there, but we are talking about optimizations. We aren't talking about building a new game from scratch here.

TravsVoid1917d ago (Edited 1917d ago )

4K Switch is never happening at their current price point, the Switch can't even hit 1080p 60fps with PS3 graphics.

VersusDMC1917d ago

Well i assume it would be more expensive just like the oneX/Pro. Nintendo doesn't sell at a loss either. Are people expecting a switch pro to be the same price?

pecorre1917d ago (Edited 1917d ago )

I don't really care about a Switch Pro, I just want better games for the system. I don't know what Nintendo are doing right now, but we just get ports of old games.

Levii_921917d ago

Yeah.. it’s incredibly frustrating.

BlackTar1871917d ago

Well nintendo gets rewarded for such average output that it is no wonder they put such little effort in.

EveryPlatformGamer1916d ago (Edited 1916d ago )

exactly its the fanbase who are the problem, dont get me wrong, i would instantly buy remakes of gamecube classics and beloved nintendo games but they are lazy at times.
the remakes should be 1080p native 60fps, i bought super mario 3d anniversary but the games in that collection shuld of been all naive 1080p 60fps! if my pc can do it via emulation no reason why one of the worlds best software companies cant make it happen.
i just want more great first party ninty games like the old days.WHERE IS THE NEW ETERNAL DARKNESS GAME? give us more adult content, your loyal fanbase has all grown up now nintendo.

@Neonridr
@Axecution
for me, its not about nintendo games looing super realistic but i want decent anti aliasing and games to be nativ 1080p 60fps with that incredible art design.
i miss nintendo when they were at the cutting edge of graphics and gameplay

Elda1917d ago (Edited 1917d ago )

The very reason I haven't bought one. To me their first-party exclusives just don't have that mature tone especially graphically nor a wow factor.

Neonridr1917d ago

that's ok, Nintendo software isn't for everyone. I don't play The Last of Us or Horizon because of the graphics. Likewise for Zelda or Mario. I play games because they are good. Sure looking good is a nice benefit, but just because it's not graphically pushing 4k with millions of polys doesn't mean it can't be a good game.

Amplitude1917d ago (Edited 1917d ago )

@Neonridr

Lmao the fact that you have 3 disagrees is absolutely mind blowing. This site's user base is hilarious. Gameplay > Graphics - always.

In all honesty - I do want a switch pro specifically for a frame rate boost which does affect how enjoyable a game is. Half these games run unlocked and very very often below 30fps. Saints Row 3 and 4 were a hell like no other. And then other games running docked with a variable resolution that often goes down to 560p and lower... Looks like pixel soup on a large 75" 4k screen or a projector - and large 4k screens are getting way cheaper and more popular. When it's as bad as some of these third party ports have been running, the graphics do start to affect gameplay. We need a Switch Pro to keep up with that alone. Android set top boxes are able to push 4k/60. Sure they're not handheld but I'm sure a $500 Switch Pro could do at least 1440p/30 docked on these unlocked fps variable res games. Would be so nice

DEKUX121917d ago

Whats adult done? The fact that a grown man uses that term make u have a childs mindset. You know how boreing it would be if every single game was realistic ? Grow up notice how is mainly kids playing ps4 and ps5 cus they think its cool play a hame fkr fun not cus it makes you feel like a adult weird commwnt typical for a sony fan boy site

Elda1917d ago

@Neonridr I agree that there are great games that are not AAA offerings. I love independent games like Dead Cells,The Pathless,Children Of Morta but when it comes to console first-party exclusives most of the Switch offerings look like cartoony family like titles. I prefer the big budget realistic looking M & T rated games. To each their own.

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anast1916d ago

They are making easy money.

Good-Smurf1916d ago (Edited 1916d ago )

Skyward Sword HD being full price is all you need to know,they're didn't learned a thing.
The latest Direct didn't showed anything new and interesting other than Mario Golf which were way way overdue.
There are way more 3rd party stuff on that Direct than their own stuff it's ridiculous.

PS-Gamer-19861916d ago (Edited 1916d ago )

I must admit that i'm glad i only bought donkey kong tropical freeze, super mario bros and mario kart for wii U back then, so now all these other ports are basically brand new games for me.

But i can see how angry at nintendo those of us might be, who actually supported wii u back then and now are getting served the same games they played a gen ago while having to fear that switch won't get many new games in the future, because the next nintendo handheld/ console might be right around the corner, receiving all the new games.

Nintentional1916d ago (Edited 1916d ago )

Bravely Default 2, Monster Hunter Rise, Mario Golf Super Rush, No More Heroes 3, and Crash 4 will all be mine (all new games). Also so excited to have the first two Ninja Gaiden games (gaming bliss) on Nintendo hardware.

EveryPlatformGamer1916d ago

this a million times!!
i have had switch since launch, and i always buy every platform at launch and have a monster pc.
But my switch has gathered dust, like where are the big Nintendo franchises?
the eshop has some gems on it but mostly has mobile phone like app trash!!
I just want a steady flow of big Nintendo first party franchises, MARIO, ZELDA, METROID, SMASH,PIKMIN, ETC ETC like where are the big games man? they take too long, my pc can run these Nintendo consoles via emulators but i still buy the consoles and games to support a company i love but i feel the swtich for me has just not been no where near good enough.
Yes they have released some killer titles but for my tastes not enough.

CrimsonWing691916d ago

It’s extremely lazy and the fact that they sell Wii U ports for full price is a slap in the face. It’d be one thing if they did collections on a single cartridge. I remember on the 360 there was a Dreamcast collection and even then it wasn’t a full price release.

Look at Mario Kart 8! You think the Switch will actually get its own new Mario Kart game? I guarantee you Switch ports will be just as prevalent on the next console. It’s the Nintendo way now.

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Levii_921917d ago

I would love a Switch Pro. Yes it needs an upgrade no other way around it.

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You Didn’t Just Buy a Console. You Joined an Ecosystem

Modern consoles aren’t one-time purchases. How PlayStation, Nintendo, and Xbox keep you inside their ecosystems.

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Nintendo wants to avoid Switch 2 scalping by making enough for demand

President Shuntaro Furukawa says he doesn’t think component shortages will be an issue due to new plan.

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ZycoFox689d ago

Probably be using 3+ year old chips by the time it launches

Tacoboto688d ago

The 2017 Switch is based on the 2015 Tegra X1 so even if Nintendo is using technology from 2022, that alone still represents a significant improvement.

Outside_ofthe_Box688d ago

How many decades has it been since Nintendo consoles been about power?

Inverno688d ago

Should open pre-orders through the E-shop for a period before making it available through stores. And now that COVID is out the way, you can make in store preorders mandatory too. People interested wouldn't have much of an issue driving by if it meant keeping scalpers at bay for a bit.

CrimsonWing69688d ago

I mean, the problem is these a-holes have bots that eat up every sites inventory. Then they sell it on eBay for stupid prices. No matter what you try to do we’re still going to have to fight through these human pieces of sh*t to get these damn consoles at launch.

phoenixwing688d ago (Edited 688d ago )

Well I'll either see if I can get one online against bots or wait till they're saturated and buy in a brick and morter store. Waiting isn't an issue anyway I have enough games to wait out the shortage

FinalFantasyFanatic687d ago (Edited 687d ago )

I can't really understand people rushing out to buy a console at release, I'll wait a year, two years, etc... until I can walk into a store and buy one if I have to, I'm not paying scalper prices.

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Are the Console Wars Over? Welcome to the Handheld Wars.

Looks like the epic console wars might be coming to an end, and a new battlefield is heating up: the Handheld Wars. With heavy hitters like the Steam Deck, Lenovo Legion Go, and the trusty Nintendo Switch, portable gaming is taking the spotlight. These handhelds bring the power of consoles to your hands, offering a variety of gaming experiences for both casual and hardcore gamers. While PlayStation, Xbox, and Nintendo aren't going anywhere, the rise of handheld gaming is giving us more ways to play than ever before.

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darthv72713d ago

console wars are stupid to begin with... let alone handheld wars.

GameGeeked713d ago

Console wars, and possibly handheld wars, may seem silly, but they persist because there will always be passionate fan.

darthv72713d ago

Being passionate about the games is fine. The plastic boxes... not so much.

InUrFoxHole711d ago

Passionate is one thing. But fans went full retard

Cacabunga711d ago

Darth

You need some kind of plastic box to play them games.. and people tend to choose the best one. Console wars allows games and consoles to reach new heights.

S2Killinit711d ago

You really don't get to speak. Come on.

Ironmike711d ago (Edited 711d ago )

S2killinit u just as bad

S2Killinit711d ago (Edited 711d ago )

@Ironmike
I’m not as relentless as some on here. In fact, I only respond in kind and I got pulled into this site after seeing how some commenters were always rushing in to be the first comment and detail conversations in favor of their box. Now that their console of choice is doing badly, they preach kumbaya. Just saying.

crazyCoconuts711d ago

Is it implied that "console wars" refers to the fans warring vs. the war the platform holders are constantly in?
Obviously the platform holders have been at war and will be as long as they have to compete for our dollars.

ravens52711d ago

They're fine, as long as you know this isn't REAL. I can say how much distaste I have for MS but still have a best friend that only games on Xbox. Its not that serious .

Charlieboy333711d ago (Edited 711d ago )

Darth, do you not have preferences for certain things in life ? You know like a certain brand of phone, car, clothing, restaurant, etc.

Or are you one of those boring limp people that like to sit on the fence with everything because the 'conflict' is too much for you to handle?

There is fuckall wrong with having a console war....it keeps things fun and interesting. Well unless you're a supporter of Xbox that is.

Most of the intelligent self respecting Xbox supporters have jumped ship and all that's left now are the mouth breathing knuckle draggers.

Ironmike711d ago (Edited 711d ago )

So u resort to insults to win argument, u already lost bro .

Charlieboy333711d ago

@ Ironmike Whatever you say sunshine.....yawn

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Knightofelemia713d ago

Console wars were great when it was SNES vs Genesis. Was always a great topic in the school yard. You got the Genesis port the friend got the SNES port. Always fun to compare who was better. I always looked forward after the school week and rent a game for the SNES. Now the console wars are pretty much done and over with PS3 vs XB360 was pretty much the last of the console wars. Anything after that is pretty much one sided with almost everybody going PS4 and PS5. To me the console wars started to drop after the PS3 and XB360 ran their course. Be interesting to see the handheld wars I am in the market for a new handheld system.

GameGeeked712d ago

The SNES vs Genesis days were definitely memorable. I was lucky to have both consoles :) It's interesting to see how the focus is shifting now. Handheld wars could bring back some of that excitement. Which handheld system are you considering?

anast711d ago

I was on the Genesis side. We see how well that went.

RaiderNation711d ago

I had both but I preferred the Genesis for the sports games and I liked Sega's 6 button controller better for fighting games. That D pad was a godsend to pull off Street Fighter moves!

RaiderNation711d ago (Edited 711d ago )

The "golden age" of gaming to me was between 1995 and 2000 when it was a 3 horse race between Sony, Nintendo, and Sega. For me, there WAS no console war because I genuinely loved all 3 platforms, with each bringing something unique to the table. I miss that era.

anast711d ago

I switched to Sony day 1.

PhillyDonJawn711d ago

Anast, no one would've ever thought that about you. Totally surprising news/s

Fist4achin711d ago (Edited 711d ago )

Mortal Kombat was superior on the genesis!

FinalFantasyFanatic710d ago

It also helps that back then, they used very different hardware, today's consoles have very similar internals to each other, especially modern Playstations and Xboxes.

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fsfsxii711d ago

Handheld wars aka which system is gimped more and destroys your hands faster.

anast711d ago

I would say with the defeat of Xbox and Nintendo being it's own thing in family friendly handheld gaming, the console wars are over. For those of us that enjoy that kind of entertainment and are aware of this aspect, it was fun while it lasted.

There is no handheld war Nintendo owns the handheld landscape.

-Foxtrot711d ago

" There is no handheld war Nintendo owns the handheld landscape "

If the Xbox handheld is true I won't how it will do against Nintendo, even Sony couldn't keep up and the PSP was fantastic

RaiderNation711d ago (Edited 711d ago )

The Steamdeck has currently sold around 3 million worldwide. A handheld Xbox would be lucky to double that. As others have suggested, there IS no handheld war. Nintendo owns it.

Ironmike711d ago

The defeat of xbox my god u for real it's a console u talking g like its real war the defeat that's saddest statement I read in here

anast711d ago

"that's saddest statement I read in here"

Your not very self aware. I get it.

The Wood711d ago

The xbox as a console is a shadow of what it was during the 360 era. IF the term war offends you then I guess that you lean towards the green brand.. Just a guess mind you.. Regardless, the brand has been mismanaged for way too long and that's a key factor as to why the gappage as increased yoy between it and its closest rival.

DarXyde711d ago

In a handheld war, Nintendo cannot be beaten.

PSP was a surprisingly robust effort, and it came the closest... While doing half as well as the DS.

badz149711d ago

closest? By any metric imaginable, it was not even close. it's easy to assume the that the PSP might as well be considered a success but it sold over 80mil vs over 150mil by the DS. It was not until the failure of Wii U, Xbone and Vita did people finally realize how well the PSP actually did. before all those, it was generally called a failure by many, considering how badly the DS crushed it in sales.

NotoriousWhiz711d ago

If the PSP's 80 million isn't a success, then what is the 3DS' 75 million?

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