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The DualSense Haptic Feedback Is Advanced Enough To Replicate Music

Play Doom’s soundtrack on the DualSense.

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StoneyYoshi2031d ago (Edited 2031d ago )

Crazy what you can do with voice coil actuators huh? This is how they are doing it with PS5 games. It's just audio profiles being sent to the haptics allowing such accuracy.

bouzebbal2031d ago

Now my expectations for this controller are sky high..
I was really thinking it would end like the switch overhyped vibrations that turned out to be just...normal rumbles..

Zhipp2031d ago

@bouzebbal
Switch's HD rumble can be pretty great, but it's rarely properly utilized in games. The only times I've really felt that it elevated the experience was with Mario Odyssey and Luigi's Mansion 2.

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Yppupdam2030d ago

They have used these for years in cars and home theaters, You can actually diy your own with an old speaker and a low pass filter....(in home theater applications)

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AspiringProGenji2031d ago

So Haptic Feedback was not just a cuter name for HD Rumble or Rumble triggers like the fanboys said. It is actually an evolution of those. Nice one sony.

Patent it NoW!

S2Killinit2031d ago

Yup. It seems theyve got something special. Pretty sure they have already patented the crap out of it.

jznrpg2031d ago (Edited 2031d ago )

A major evolution . From annoying to cool

toxic-inferno2031d ago

The Switch did a similar thing with one of the pieces of music from Kirby...

But it wasn't on this level! This is seriously impressive. Imagine if MGS got remade on PS5; the PsychoMantis fight would change from "I can move your controller" to "I can make your controller play the theme tune to this game!"

kneon2031d ago

There are existing patents already, and they don't belong to Sony.

StoneyYoshi2031d ago (Edited 2031d ago )

Yeah I'd love to see the XB controller do this since many people on here say its the same thing. 😂

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Lionsguard2031d ago

If they can hope out with next-gen VR controllers that are this good, it's going to be amazing.

Lionsguard2031d ago

Jesus, I think I had a stroke when I began that sentence, I don't know what happened.

fr0sty2030d ago

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

That with this haptic feedback tech would be awesome.

StormSnooper2030d ago (Edited 2030d ago )

That would be sweet af

Father__Merrin2031d ago

Kinda reminds me of them toothbrushes that vibrated music intonyour head without sound lol.

But OT we was lead to believe by the n4g faithful that rumble triggers were in xbox one even though dual sence isn't rumble triggers but rather adaptive triggers. And HD rumble in joycons are crap the ones in dual sence are the most advanced ever.

How long will they turn their noses the other way even the steam controller is nothing on this.

Well done Sony at only £359 for a digi ps5 gaming has never been this good buy it now!!

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New PS5 system update beta previews DualSense wireless controller pairing across multiple devices

Beta participants will have access to the new feature starting tomorrow.

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Smellsforfree314d ago

Oh nice! I'll just use my Edge controller with my PC when this comes out. Only reason why I have a separate controller for my PC currently is because it is too much of a hassle re-pairing the controller every time I want to use it.

gold_drake314d ago

i love how this aint possible on android. officially.

but we all know how.

Christopher314d ago

Huh? You can pair PS5 controllers to android devices running Android 12 or later.

OpenGL314d ago

Hope they add this to the PSVR2 controllers because I use them on PC and PS5 Pro.

OpenGL314d ago

Thank you! PSVR2 has been great since they opened it up to support the PC. It was always neat on PS5 but kind of an expensive toy for it to be locked to one platform. Now it has a ton of value that it works on both PS5 and PC.

Neonridr313d ago

I wish you could have different setups for if you are using PC or console. I don't want to have to re-run the entire setup process because I used a different machine that day.

RedDevils314d ago

What they should do is allow me to pair it with my PS4.

Grilla313d ago

“ Additionally, we’re also sharing new details on Power Saver for games – a new mode that enables supported PS5 games to run with lower power consumption and reduce environmental impact – which will be available at a later date.” = PlayStation handheld mode.

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Why Haven’t Console Makers Switched to Hall Effect Joysticks?

The Outerhaven writes: It's been proven that Hall Effect sensors in joysticks resolve stick drift and last longer, so why aren't console manufacturers moving to them yet?

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jznrpg325d ago

No idea but I have got all 6 of my controllers modded now with TMR sticks for 20$ each

joab777324d ago

How did you manage that? Bought kits?

jznrpg323d ago (Edited 323d ago )

Guy I know on eBay installs them. I send them to him he sends them back. I think regular price is 25$ (for tmr sticks and installation, can’t beat that really unless you do it yourself) and the more you get repaired the cheaper it is but we have done some business before so he gave me a discount. There are multiple people that offer services so check eBay who will install what you want. Hall effect, TMR, battery upgrades

Jin_Sakai324d ago

Yep TMR (Tunneling MagnetoResistance) sticks are even better than Hall Effect. Speaking of drift just had another PS5 controller start drifting. This makes 3rd one since launch! These things are way too expensive to not have TMR sticks.

jznrpg323d ago

I never had issues with stick drift until my kids used theirs and then my PS5 controllers and they went through 4 real fast. So I said f it I’m getting them all
Modded now instead of buying new controllers.

Killer2020UK324d ago (Edited 324d ago )

It's almost as if they want to keep cost price down and repeat sales high 🤷‍♂️

For those interested, on a tangential but somewhat relevant thread, the Centennial Light is an incandescent light bulb recognized as the oldest known operating light bulb. It was first illuminated in 1901.

But why, if lightbulbs can last this long, do we still have bulbs that burn out after a while? Well, the Phoebus cartel was an international cartel that controlled the manufacture and sale of incandescent light bulbs in much of Europe and North America between 1925 and 1939. The cartel took over market territories and lowered the useful life of such bulbs, which is commonly cited as an example of planned obsolescence.

Following its dissolution, light bulbs continued to be sold at the 1,000-hour life standardized by the cartel.

Proof that products are often intentionally designed to fail and proof that nobody seems to protect the consumer when there's money to be made.

BlaqMagiq1324d ago

Learn something new everyday. Thank you for this.

ppm1100324d ago

Centennial Light as an example of planned obsolescence is kind of a myth - https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Babadook7324d ago

Haha. The plot thickens. However even this guy admits planned obsolescence is probably real.

clevernickname324d ago

You completely misconstrue the aims of the Phoebus Cartel. Their objective was not planned obsolescence but to standardize the lightbulb market. You can make a lightbulb last hundreds of years, but it won't output much light. The Centennial Light barely puts out any light at all! The Phoebus Cartel was formed to standardize light design, light output, and quality, and since the life of an incandescent bulb is based on the amount of light it produces, it did have the side effect of determining lifebulb lifetimes.

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Deathtracker324d ago

They want to sell more controllers.

BlackCountryBob324d ago

I think the Switch 2 is a slightly different reason, primarily that if Nintendo introduced them it could be used against them in the many lawsuits they face about the JoyCons for the Switch 1.

I’m not sure how anyone could answer the questions “why did you change this in your new console and what are the benefits” without talking about reliability / lifespan which they are claiming were entirely normal (ie why change it if you want to claim it was already fine).

Melankolis324d ago

Isn't drifting an exaggerated issue?. Never had issue with drifting controller from PS1 to PS3 + Xbox OG to Xbox 360. Meanwhile Nintendo's handheld always has issues whether the hinge, screen, shoulder buttons, etc.

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shinXseijuro324d ago

You just answered your own question ! Controllers back then did not suffer from the issue because the quality of the sticks used to be better it would take a lot for a controller to start drifting . Nowadays since the ps4/one days controllers tho offering more are made in a way that it doesn’t take much for one’s controller to start drifting . Ever since I bought my ps5 in 2020 I easily ran thru about 8 controllers . I play a lot of fighting games and stuff like apex which all take a heavy toll on the sticks

Mr_cheese324d ago

I'd personally never had an issue with stick drift from ps1 to ps4 and then I got a ps5 with two controllers. Both got stick drift on the left stick within the space of a year.

I didn't believe in the scale of it and then blam. Now I'm a believer.

Profchaos324d ago (Edited 324d ago )

I used to think this also as I had never had an issue despite having a ps1 duelshock, ps2, ps3, ps4, 360, xone, switch, wii u, gc, wii and others

Yet my ps5 I've had two controllers with stick drift so far and one controller that had the spring break in a trigger

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You Can Now Connect PlayStation's DualSense Controllers To Xbox Series XlS

There's a fan-made app on the Microsoft Xbox store right now that allows players to connect their DualSense controller to Xbox Series XlS.

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S2Killinit445d ago

Hehe that must be a hard pill to swallow.

neutralgamer1992445d ago

I have been a PS fan since day one and last year switched to PC and to me Xbox series controller just feels better (no doubt features wise dual sense has more to offer but the feel in hand xbox feels more natural)

RupeeHoarder445d ago

The feel between the two is negligible at best. One thing I can absolutely say is not negligible is the sound difference. The Series controller is a loud, clicky, cheap sounding mess.

DodoDojo445d ago

I prefer the Xbox controller too. I think there was a Steam survey that showed 60% of the controllers used were Xbox controllers.

VenomUK445d ago (Edited 445d ago )

Just wait until Microsoft starts selling Xbox controllers for PS5. I joke, I joke, that’s one red line Microsoft will never cross…

Promise?

Will it?

MUMMY.

darthv72445d ago

DS has the better actuators but the XB feels better to hold. It is clicky... but that audible feedback is nice to hear. Then again i also like the classic clicky keyboards of yore.

Si-Fly445d ago

Hopefully Sony will get the ergonomics right one day, they’ve come a long way since the PS1 but Xbox has always had comfier controllers.

KyRo445d ago

I have both and it blows my head when people say the Xbox controller is better. The controller sounds cheap and hollow when moving the analogue sticks. The vibration feedback is pretty naff and the LB/RB buttons are like digital mouse buttons.

I've not used the Elite controller myself but the standard one just doesn't compare with the Duel Sense.

Rockstar445d ago

@ RupeeHoarder

I absolutely agree. The Xbox controller is indeed a loud, clicky cheap feeling controller. I prefer my dual sense and 8bitdo Ultimate controllers. But in my opinion all of these controllers are very comfortable

neutralgamer1992445d ago

Guys I just shared my opinion on what felt better in my hands. Dual sense has more features like I said and I agree compared to Xbox controller DS feels premium. I wish Sony would give the option between having a normal dual sense and one layed out like Xbox controller and I wish Xbox would do the same. Having more options is better for us all

Controllers are such a subjective matter. What feels good in my hands might not in another gamers hands

MASTER_RAIDEN445d ago (Edited 445d ago )

I honestly can’t believe people still argue about this. The Xbox controller is significantly more ergonomic/comfortable than anything PlayStation has ever put out. Do you guys like those weirdly stiff, gross feeling dualsense triggers? How about that giant useless touchpad in between the and share buttons (2 of the worst buttons I’ve ever used on a controller). The triggers on the dualsense bottom out at an inward angle for crying out loud. The PS button feels weird and should probably just be a circle shape with the ps logo like it was on ps3. I love PlayStation and haven’t owned anything Xbox since the 360, but let’s just be honest. Xbox one controllers onward NAIL the controller feel. PlayStation controllers just have really awkward design decisions.

Goodguy01445d ago (Edited 445d ago )

Preference

babadivad445d ago

Exactly. Xbox has the better controller.

rocky047586445d ago

Really? I really think the people that say this MUST have small hands. There's NO way if you have big hands that you'd think the Xbox Series X controller feels natural in your hands. To me, it feels small and my hands feel like it's smothering the controller. It feels awkward to hold compared to the hefty PS5 Dual Sense controller. I'm not body shaming small hands either, sorry if it sounds like it.

neutralgamer1992445d ago

Rocky I am 6-4 with quite large hands. I have a otter box cover OK my controllers. Yes without that she'll case I definitely think it's too small

phatak445d ago (Edited 445d ago )

well thats your personal opinion, im a full time pc gamer and the dualsense is easily the best controller ever made, the texture effect on the back and sides of the xbox controller this generation is extremely strong that it feels awful, I literally have to use a rubber cover or wear gloves to make that texture go away, it feels like saw dust. Playstation also has a texture but its much more normal feeling, the last time microsoft had a better controller than sony was the xbox 360, xbox one and ps4 dualshock were basically a tie, while dualsense smokes the series s/x controller for me personally

Profchaos445d ago

I've got to admit I never liked the Xbox one design the stick tension is wrong it's shoulder buttons don't feel right the grips are not as ergonomic and I don't like using it for long periods of time but the 360 pad was perfection I still use it over the Xbox one controller

TheEroica445d ago

The Sony defense force is gonna hate your comment. They're corporate bootlickers so expect downvotes.

PanicMechanic445d ago

The Xbox series controller is inferior to the Dualsense in just about every way possible. Dualsense feels better in my hands. Haptic feedback obviously makes the Dualsense the better controller and that can’t even be debated.

The series controller feels too “narrow” in my hands compared to the Dualsense

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Profchaos445d ago

To be fair i was using a duelshock 4 with xcloud to play halo a few years ago already which felt like a nice novelty

TheEroica445d ago

A hard pill to swallow? Huh? Like anyone is clamoring to hook up a Playstation controller to an Xbox. What a weird statement...

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GotGame818445d ago

I prefer the Xbox controller. So do most PC players.

https://www.pcgamer.com/bes...

crazyCoconuts445d ago

On PC the biggest drawback of dualshock/dualsense is lack of universal support.
Once you've got DS4Windows / Steam Support configured, the Sony controllers simply have more features.
I can use the trackpad as a mouse which is really useful in Windows.
I can also use the gyro in Steam games for fine tuned aiming which is a great feature once you get used to it.
The other advanced features that the dualsense have are great (triggers, better haptics), but having to connect it via USB just to find most PC games don't support it isn't great at all.

Anyway this user mod doesn't support any of that greatness on xbox anyway... i was just talking about PC

Goodguy01445d ago

Budget 3rd party controllers have been amazing lately that even include back buttons, great battery life, trigger stops, and hall effects for $40-$60. 3rd party has been amazing and stepping it up, I'd recommend them if you're on PC. Official controllers by the big 3 and pro controllers are selling them overpriced and have some features fail within a year as a person who's tried out many controllers myself.

gold_drake445d ago

fuck no
i hate the xbox controllers. they are so bulky and loud for no good reason.

the biggest drawback of the somy controllers is the lack of 100% support.

Profchaos445d ago (Edited 445d ago )

Plus the face buttons feel like you need to press then harder which doesn't lend itself well to twitch motions it's my most hated gamepad for retro gaming on PC or though emulation

It feels like it's built around shooters and nothing else

andy85445d ago (Edited 445d ago )

Only because of the ease of use connecting a Microsoft product to a PC. It's just plug and play unlike the dualsense. I personally use an Xbox controller too on my laptop, but if it was as flawless I'd be using a dualsense every time.

Rockstar444d ago

Price is likely a factor as well. The Xbox controller is 35 dollars less expensive than the dual sense. At least here in Canada anyway

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MrDead445d ago (Edited 445d ago )

I always forget how archaic the Xbox controller is, it'll be be like a wizard from the future casting a spell on the confused peasants.

"What is this magic you bring us?"

MrDead445d ago

No s#it.

"If you use the adjective archaic you are referring to something outmoded, belonging to an earlier period. Rotary phones and cassette players already seem so archaic! The adjective archaic means something that belongs to an earlier or antiquated time."

oldenjon445d ago

Well, it reads like you don't understand what it means. Just trying to help lol

Schoolboi445d ago

Well then you need to take some comprehension lessons, because what he said and how he used archaic is absolutely fine

oldenjon445d ago

@schoolboi oh thx ‘school’ boi! Yeah the point of the joke is somewhat obscure, and the language used isn’t really helping me grok it.

KwietStorm_BLM445d ago

I don't like the multiverse. It's scary.

DivineHand125445d ago (Edited 445d ago )

This is a huge win. I will try this as soon as I get home before Microsoft pulls the app. The only thing that is left is for someone to mod the dual sense controller buttons with Xbox buttons.

DivineHand125445d ago (Edited 445d ago )

Ok, to add an update. The app works, but you will need a PC or Android phone to act as a middleman to manage the connection between the console and the dual-sense controller. I was able to connect my dual sense using Bluetooth to my laptop, and then my laptop was able to connect to the Xbox via wifi.

I was able to control the Xbox dash board using the controller, and I tried playing 2 games. I tried the Xbox 360 version of Sonic Generations (disk version), but that didn't work. I then tried playing Forza Horizon 4 (Digital), and I was able to control the game without any noticeable input lag. I expected the game to have rumble like PS4 games on the PS5, however, there was no vibration what so ever. I was only able to experience the novelty of using a dual sense controller to control the Xbox Series X. In its current state, you are better off just using the Xbox controller.

The flaw I noticed is that if you have Steam running on your PC and you press the Playstation button thinking it will take you back to the dashboard, you are wrong. It will just launch Steam big picture mode on the PC, and at that point you have to focus on what is on your PC because you don't want to press and open something accidentally. It seems you will still need an Xbox controller to get back to the dashboard/home screen. It doesn't matter if you exit Steam on your PC.

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