"First, we want to acknowledge that yes, we’ve heard the feedback coming from parts of the community regarding the visuals in the Halo Infinite campaign demo. While we see and hear far more positive than negative, we do want to share a bit more context. From our perspective, there are two key areas being debated around the community – overall art style and visual fidelity."

>>>> "While we see and hear far more positive than negative..." realy!? I mean... realy!??

"The build used to run the campaign demo was work-in-progress from several weeks ago with a variety of graphical elements and game systems still being finished and polished."

Not long at all. Like I thought. That's what I figured when Greenberg started up the "earlier build" excuse. It's a nice bit of equivocation. It makes sense that 343i would have provided their demo weeks in advance of the showcase for which it was the featured attraction. Saying it was an "earlier build" fulfills the function of a lie without actually being one. It gives the impression that the build was from a significantly earlier period, not "several weeks ago." Classic PR move.

They were very proud to have that build running and they prepared that for the show.
Everyone at Microsoft were excited and happy.
Phil was Gandalf the gray.

They were all clueless.
It's amazing that Microsoft, that is in gaming industry and has a platform, can be so out of touch with it's target audience.

It's like blizzard fill the hall with PC gamers to present them mobile game.

If they have time to change anything I will clap.

It was late April's fool joke.

"With Halo Infinite, we’re returning to a more ‘classic’ art style which was a key message going back to the very first reveal that garnered enthusiastic and positive responses."

"There are additional variants of each of these, but the classic Magnum and Tactical Shotgun aren’t currently featured in Halo Infinite."

They just don't learn.

They had 5 years. That’s all that needs to be said. And this is why Microsoft, Xbox, and the idiots over at 343 will never come close to winning.

The gameplay should have been revealed Michael Bay style guns blazing, explosions, enemies everywhere, and Chief going apesh*t showcasing the power of the Series-X.

Instead what the world saw was a poor mans DOOM running on the Xbox 360. Halo is supposed to be the Xbox Crown Jewel and what they showcased just wasn’t that. It was a boring, bland, pop in filled snore fest.

The build was "several weeks old"?

Hopefully in "several weeks" the game that has been in development for years stopped looking like a 360 remaster 🙄

Digital foundry review is full of lies... once thought of as a credible review source, comes up with lame excuses about in shade and off shade lightning issues as the reason why the game doesn't look good.

DF ignored the bad textures, charchter model, and flat graphics and focused on lighting. They even started comparing lighting from The last of us 2 with Halo from a lighting perspective. ... what a joke.

I have no other reason to believe that DF got some kind of incintives from MS to give excuses of failing to deliver a next Gen Halo game.

They have to get raytracing working on the series x. That would fix a lot of the visual issues (having actual shadows in nondirect lighting).
People compare the game to mainly static lith games. Halo 5 looked ways better because of that. also, this is not just another single-player game. This has to run in 4 players split-screen/multiplayer with the possibility of a lot going on on-screen while running 4k 60fps.

Rumors are that 343i have some fundamental problems!
https://youtu.be/T0sydRujLX...

https://youtu.be/Fmdb-KmlzD...

Watch the announcement trailer again. The supposed game engine demonstration.

Microsoft are just bald faced liars. This is like Watchdogs times, well infinite. And Xbox fans instead of screaming downgrade, are instead saying graphics don't matter and Halo was never a graphical showpiece. What absolute lies.

The good thing is I haven't heard someone call PS5 weak because 12 Tflops all week.

quo vadis Phil?
https://i.imgur.com/Ge2KGlV...

Tried to tell 343 stop listening to the nostalgia Halo community it'll only get you messed up. They need to realize you can't please everyone, so stop trying to!

I would dalay halo and release as a summer blockbuster when it's done

I truly have to say guys , Halo Infinite looked really really disappointing . Some are saying it’s an early build , that doesn’t explain the bad acting , writing or animations. It’s going to be like Destiny where they add to it over time. I really couldn’t care less about 120 FPS multiplayer when the game looks like the previous game infact it’s less impressive than that game was at its launch. Microsoft has truly let the fans down this generation and looks like that trend will continue next generation too. I hope I am wrong because there was some cool titles In there , but Halo Infinite is there big flagship launch title and it just didn’t do anything for me except disappoint it’s sad to see.

"Microtransactions: Halo Infinite will not include real-money loot boxes"

That's all i needed to know, sold.

343 have done halo before ... aside they are only focusing on halo series.. i am surprised why it looked shit in the demo ...
Usually demo is Upgraded and final build is downgraded ...

You know even a FRACTION of this kind of clarity before the demo was shown would’ve gone a very long way.

Halo is still as popular as ever. It has been taking up the news feed ever since the reviews of GoT stopped coming in

"The build is several weeks old" ... What happened to this "months old/6 months old build" statement everyone was quoting to defend the graphical state of the game.
This quote of 343i made me even more concerned about the development state of the game

If this is indeed an older build, then what a wasted opportunity and silly move.

Either way, at the end of the day, if you're going to buy it, youre going to buy it.

Lol at them trying to say it was a few weeks old build so the graphics are way better now. I thought some Xbox guy said it was a very old demo. This game is going to be a very old game like anthem was 2 weeks after launch. Just delay the game.

Man everyone talk about the damage control from 343’s Halo Infinite, hell what about the fact that none of the games shown was running on Xbox Series X? What about the graphics on those games? How far along are those games on Series X? An this next August event from Microsoft better not have a disclaimer on the bottom saying running on PC with similar specs to Series X! That tell us nothing about the velocity architecture. There is no denying that fact.

Sony’s event they had 12 games showing off gameplay for PS5 not just Miles Morales and not some reused assets too! Horizon Zero Dawn 2 trailer was not CGi like Fable for example. That was Horizon Zero Dawn 2 gameplay cutscenes and bird eye view of gameplay we saw in that trailer! Nothing CGI. Plus Demon Souls remake of most of the bosses shown from the PS3 original was in game cutscenes! If your a fan of that game you know this. Returnal was obviously gameplay, Rachet and Clank Rift Apart gameplay, Hitman 3 the only game that show off a CGi trailer along with a gameplay trailer of a high rise building in Dubai! Let me repeat that one CGi trailer for the PS5 event only one ☝️ Microsoft show off too many CGI trailers for Xbox Series X and they are 15 seconds short too!

In the beginning of the demo with the air guns making direct impact with chief ship you saw the airship show any damage he’ll the windshield didn’t even crack

End of the day people were always confusing art style with fidelity. I don’t mind the art style going back to its roots, halo was never about realistic graphics etc, but the pop-in and textures should be drastically improved, as well as there should be an improvement in lighting when they add raytracing.

At least they are giving updates and not gone hiding in a corner.
My biggest grip or fear a this point is that MS will launch the game in a buggy mess like Sea of Thieves.
Now I'm sure the game will be good down the line (just look how Sea of Thieves is now) but this way of doing will hurt MS in the long run.
My suggestion would be to release the game in early access like Grounded and PubG so they can really polish it.

With the visuals, no one told them "it doesn't look next gen" that's what happens working with "Yes Men"

If I was Spencer and they showed me this garbage I would have given them 2 months to get the assets right.

But Spencer knew what this game looked like and OKed the showing

MS Showcase: Biggest event of the year to showcase what they can offer in next Gen
MS Logic: "Hey, Guys lets show some old footage of Halo Infinite, our flagship franchise to show consumers what they can look forward to."
MS Fans and PS Fans: WTF is this BS?

The game looks great the problem is lighting and some stuff missing textures compared to the 1 min trailer. Most things were missing shadows these issues can easily be fixed by the time it launches. Isn't there gonna be a ray tracing update when it launches as well? Anyway can't wait to see what they do with this game GoT looked rough several weeks before releasing as well and looks alright now.

"Classic art style"... just be honest here, you have a massive sandbox game with 4k and Ray Tracing happening. Visual fidelity is taking a hit because of the processing power required for those 3 things first and foremost.

The major issue here is that Microsoft and Sony don't want to come out and admit this going forward because many "Next Gen" games aren't going to look a whole lot better than current gen. That's why we are this close to the launch of these consoles and have barely seen any actual gameplay let alone any pricing. They know this is going to be a hard sell for some especially due to the economy which is why they are so quiet going forward and relying on little bread crumbs of info to keep consumers interested.

They have already stated this many times in the past, that consumers need to understand that graphics, for the most part, aren't going to improve a whole lot going forward, however they don't repeat it too often for investors sake.

Personally I think their hope is that if they delay price information long enough that people will become so desperate to know that it will create a false demand for these consoles, which if you've ever studied Public Relations, is PR 101.

Didn't gears have a similar showing where they showed an ugly looking MP gameplay amd a few weeks later the MP was improved and looked vastly different

When some try to sell the idea of tower of power and their flagship game looks last gen... Its done. There no damage control possible. There were a single thing in that gameplay trailer next gen, much less after the PR Phil spencer is saying from december of last year that is the most powerfull console ever....

I'm not sure what the big issue is. Launch game graphics are usually nothing that special. Halo 3 graphics weren't anything special. As long as the games is good.

It is what it is... to this stage that’s the game engine they’re using and no amount of polish can improve the core graphics. It was designed for xbone not XSX in mind. Might still be a fun game to play, regardless of how dull it looks

There's lots of information coming out from insiders and glass ceiling reviews that the internal teams working on this are mostly contractors who will never see out the project the company is unorganised no one knows what anyone is doing as they use a multitude of comms systems to keep in touch and to top it off the code versioning is a mess.

It's really a bad combination.and it's not looking promising.

Microsoft have said gamepass is not very profitable right now and common sense will.suggest that games like halo and Forza horizon will.be adopting the gaas model. I'm not sure if halo will be Destiny or anthem like but it will feature some sort of ever expanding world to make sure it keeps gamers subscribed. I also predict the next Forza horizon being a persistent online world that will expand over time.

I thought it's look great and the demo made me excited to play it, don't understand all the negativity. I saw basically a corridor shooter turned into an open world game with RPG lite elements running on a new custom engine with a totally new lighting pipeline. AS DF mentioned in their analysis games like the LoU2 have a pre-baked lighting system that looks really good if you are willing to throw human souls at it to adjust the lighting manually but 343 decided to go for a real-time global illumination system, good for them. If fog kilometres away pops in while looking over a vast open world I'm ok with it, if a flat brute's face who has his helmet hit off for a nano second upsets people who will never play the game I'm also ok with that, though I get the feeling both of those issues will be sorted by launch.

I don't think anyone is really all that surprised. 10 years is a lofty length of time for most studios, and it's like like Infinite held the same draw as something like GTA or similar games that managed it.

Lack of identity and chasing something for Halo that isn't Halo could only mean failure in the end.

Now they have time to finish the split screen mode.Another broken promise. LOL

Halo not so infinite...

Halo Infiniten't

Microsoft can’t be trusted.

Microsoft is the equivalent of keeping a gun pointed at your foot and constantly pulling the trigger.

Halo: CE to Halo Reach was only 8 years.

Halo has now been a mediocre-to-bad franchise for longer than Bungie had it for, which is crazy. It's same with Forza and Gears of War; once Xbox's top-quality franchises reduced to run-of-the-mill AAA games that fade into obscurity the moment they're released (or in Forza's case, the main franchise is DOA).

This is what happens when everyone involved is a weasel. Eventually the whole thing comes crashing down.

Oh boy can’t wait to hear his side, maybe it will be a hallmark movie.

Unfortunately, we have to wait till next year to find out what the whole story is .

Xbox just keeping digging there own grave a little deeper and a little longer , just F nuts,just sad man, I never forget the first time playing my first online game was on og xbox and it was Ghost recon, I never forget that experience for the first time talk to another person around the world coordinating attack I was hooked and blown away at the same time, I had from Nintendo Nes, Sega genesies, Sega Saturn to PS1,2,xbox,xbox360 then went to pc like