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The console war is over

Xbox, PlayStation and Nintendo all want different things from the next generation -- is it really a war if everyone wins?

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djmindz2117d ago

console wars lol good old days :D

solideagle2117d ago

there is a joke on twitter that after Halo: Infinite demo, Sony will increase PS5 price hehehe I find it funny. :)

Smclaren19852117d ago (Edited 2117d ago )

Hahaha I was really hoping for more actual gameplay unfortunately I was let down by Microsoft again . I am fortunate enough to own both pro and Xbox one x but I’m not seeing anything worth a day one purchase for series x. All the games I am looking forward to is avowed forza and fable but they are years off and they showed no gameplay. Sony showed mostly gameplay I really had high hopes for Microsoft but as per usual a let down unfortunately 🙁

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darthv722117d ago

War.... what is it good for (absolutely nothing)

ABizzel12117d ago

@FATAL1TY

That's completely embarrassing.

This just screams this game was made for base XBO, and upscaled to 4K @ 60fps for Series X. I truly don't get why MS even bothered with the Series X if this is how they want to start their games off, or if they're in the business of pushing GamePass and play anywhere over their brand new console(s).

If that's the case why not just make your Series S and be done with it, so you have the minimum standard for PC gaming going forward. If this was Series S and aiming for 4K@60fps, I would completely understand, but all the hype in the world about "the world's most powerful console" and this is what they bring with Halo. A game that's graphically inferior to a game running on a console that is around 8x less powerful give or take.

mikeslemonade2116d ago

I’m getting both consoles. PS5 will sell more systems but Microsoft will earn more revenue.

Unspoken2116d ago

McDonalds raised their pricing too.

anubusgold2116d ago

OH please sony showed less real games than microsoft most of their games was indy crap. ON PS exclusives are old as well. Last of us , uncharted, god of war, grand tourismo has had just as many releases as the xbox games. And metal gear is crap because Kojima is gone.

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neutralgamer19922117d ago

It won't be over anytime soon. It's only over because Sony is at top and Nintendo passed up Xbox if it was Xbox one on top we would see very different articles

When Xbox 360 was selling well on this site we got troll articles on daily basis. Whether people like it or not console wars are real and both companies even know that and they play up to it with some of their announcements. After 7 years of wait and see, after saying he was against paying for times exclusives, after watching sony's show saying we are ready and for this to happen Come on man

I bought the OG Xbox over PS2 I have been a fan since day one and that's when Ms thought outside the box but now they just want to keep saying phrases like optimized for XSX yet after 2 events what have we seen? At least ps5's event showed real gameplay(and I for one though the show was good not great) but after watching Ms 2 shows sony's show looks better and better

Phil has been talking since December 2019 about XSX and have had the mic to himself yet Sony can break the internet by releasing am image of their new controller

And before anyone accuses me I as a gamer want xsx and ps5 to do well sell neck and neck because when these companies are competing for our dollars and attention they will try harder but it seems Ms doesn't really care and they just want to repeat 2 phrase

Optimized for XSX
Day one of gamepass

To be honest it seems many of ma first party studios are actually doing AA games instead of proper AAA because of gamepass they want quantity not quality

For us gamers it's best when both Sony and Ms go hard but it seems only Sony is prepared to go hard while Ms is only worried about subscriptions

Phil is a con artist until proven otherwise because so far he has done all the talking without any substance. Maybe I am wrong we will see

sampsonon2117d ago (Edited 2117d ago )

"To be honest it seems many of ma first party studios are actually doing AA games instead of proper AAA because of gamepass they want quantity not quality"

That is the problem. I've been saying it a few yrs back and people on this site laughed at me.
Ok, who's not laughing now. I was right.
You get what you pay for

Smclaren19852117d ago (Edited 2117d ago )

My friend I couldn’t agree with you more , you make some very true points here. I’m my opinion the huge failure of the Xbox one this gen is really showing in the results for next gen . Where as Sony’s huge success has resulted in incredible launch line up next gen . I have the PS4 pro and Xbox one x . The Xbox one x is an incredible console but I went nearly 2 years with nothing to play on it . It’s been collecting dust ever since I upgraded to PS4 pro so many great games from Sony too many lol I’m so fed up with Microsoft letting the customer's down . Sony used to be very misleading in marketing too but they always deliver . Microsoft has been taking pot shotts at Ps5 recently it’s been very tasteless . I now see why as they know they can’t compete game wise and that’s what’s important Sony haven't even replied Much to there credit . I think it all depends on the series x selling if it does the games will improve . You simply can’t deny Halo infinite is not next gen. It looks slightly better than halo 5 I need a lot more proof next gen before I fork out for A series x too . Ps5 it’s 100 percent my priority . I’m not biased I just like being treated descent as a customer with good games it’s that simple

Sitdown2117d ago

How exactly did the internet break?

Right now neither console is shaping up to be day one, even though I will still get both day one; but confidence is not what it once was. Unfortunately, Microsoft appears to be lacking gaming direction, and their pursuit of money is so overt. It's mind boggling that they continue in the same direction with just a new coat of paint. You had the eyes of the gaming community, and you tried to sell us Tetris. From the beginning this was just meant to be an Xbox event, but there was too much hype about the Series X that distorted the intentions, and the backfire is great.

fiveby92117d ago

If there are no exclusive AAA 1st party games for XsX then why even release a new console? I think MS is releasing the XsX merely to have a new console at the same time Sony does but for no other reason. And it is for certain that if MS is peddling Gamepass, they need content for it. So their studios will need to build product which keeps thast business model profitable. They are not going to make big budget games across the board for $10-$15 per month and make money. No thanks. I'll stick with Sony this next gen.

ActualWhiteMan2116d ago

Crackdown 3 is a great example of a wasted opportunity that was downplayed because it was just free fodder for Game Pass. If that game released at $60 and didnt have a free option, there would have been riots.

Sea of Thieves was boring... Gears 5...boring.... Bleeding Edge.....ZZZzzzzZZ. Halo Infinite looking boring AF.

Microsoft hasnt been worth their salt in a long time. Where the hell is Battle Toads? Havent heard about that one in a while....

Ratchet752116d ago

What I'm really crossed about is the lie Phil Spencer perpetuate when saying games are cross Gen because they care about gamers.
Now we know by watching the show it was an outright lie.
The only reason they re going cross Gen is because they have no games ready for Xbox SX. Games like Avowed, Everwild, fable, Forza... are clearly 2/3 years down the line.
Which once again prove my point when I say that Phil Spencer doesn't know how to run the business.
$1/2 billion spent on Halo Infinite for what? If I was Bill Gate, judging by what we have seen on the show, I would ask for my money back.
I mean seriously Imagine what kind of launch game Naughty dogs, Santa Monica studio...etc. would do with that budget.

I could go on and on but without Game pass, Xbox brand would be dead by now.

anubusgold2114d ago

@sampsonon AAA games are just filled with micro transactions anyway with cut out content to sale you later.

Smclaren19852110d ago (Edited 2110d ago )

Fantastic my friend , nice to see another honest gamer I completely agree with all you said here 👍. The Xbox 360 If you could get one that didn’t break lol and original Xbox was a great console and had some of the best games on the market. Iv wanted microsoft to get back to that for a long time but I just don’t think they will. It’s us the costumers who win , competition is good for the consumer . Think about it it’s smart on Microsoft’s part the got destroyed by Sony this generation so microsoft is bound to have limited there cash injection at least temporarily going into next gen just incase the same happens with ps5. It’s looking more and more likely . There relying on game pass to get majority of the income, plus there Cross generation. The ones that aren’t look more like AA games. It just wouldn’t make sense for Microsoft’s as a business to spend so much in an uncertain success. I could be wrong but there a huge gap between the quality of Sony’s showing and Microsoft’s . It’s just an opinion but it’s looking more and more like this is the case. It’ makes logical sense too. Sony’s sakes are guaranteed Microsoft’s arnt

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crazyCoconuts2117d ago

Don't worry, the wars are not over by a long shot. The platform has always been about where you get your games from. Right now and for the near term future, it's a console ( not counting mobile games of course). Whether it's sub or direct buy, the companies want a bigger slice of a somewhat fixed pie$, so they're really in the same fight over us. Perhaps someday the console moves to the cloud, but they'll still be fighting over the platform, it'll just be called a service.

Starman692116d ago

Still haven't worked out if snes or mega drive was better... 😳

Antifan2116d ago

Remember Mr. X and his whole XBOX propaganda campaign against Playstation years ago? He had an army of trolls to create fake news about Playstation. I still have console war PTSD lmao. Good old days

gamer78042116d ago

lol is this article a joke? they are still competing heavily, its just the launch guise of "we offer something really different" when they all offer similar things, switch is the only one thats really that different.

kayoss2116d ago (Edited 2116d ago )

I dont think they are competing anymore. If you look closely, MS seems to be nonchalant about the series x. He stated that he wont force players to upgrade to the new console. This is just ploy to say, "Dont have to buy our console, just get a gamepass subscription to play our games for the next two years until our exclusive are released, then you can upgrade." If you think more about it, its a smart ploy. Most players will buy the subscription gamepass, and when exclusives are released only on the series x. Most player will buy the new console, but at the same time they probably wont even cancel the gamepass subscription.
In addition, a subscription base market is more sustainable and more manageable than having to release a physical console. Lots of money going into developing a console. If this subscription thing works out for MS, just dont be surprised if they stop supporting the series x in the later years of its life cycle.

gamer78042116d ago

@kayoss you have to look even closer , why are they letting people keep their old console for 1-2 years?, there is an actual reason and its not to "not compete", its cause they know the games that need the full power of the console won't be out for 1-2 years, so why not market it as a good thing (which it kinda is). its the same nearly every generation, the first couple years of games are more basic and don't fully use the console. Trust me they care or they wouldn't have done any of these things or made the most powerful console ever.

pornflakes2116d ago

@smlaren = true troll...

Everything you saw will be day 1 gamepass. If you dot need an xsx MS is fine with it as you will still play all these games on a Windows PC.

The fanboys own of course all a 2080ti 😂😂

1Victor2116d ago

👴🏿 Back in my days it was fought in the school backyards

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Shalawsorchi2117d ago

How is Xbox winning? Even their fans are upset after yesterday’s disaster show.

majiebeast2117d ago

I have no idea, but GIbiz has been on phil's D for a while now.

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bouzebbal2117d ago (Edited 2117d ago )

Was a painful showing.. First party games and they cannot squeeze more out of the hardware.. Halo is as good as ps3 game.. It's even eat below current gen standard.. And they really wanted to start the show with a bang.. Was dull, boring and no gameplay.. Hellblade in Iceland, I couldn't care less.. Ori 120fps why?? Why use time doing this? TV s don't support that and it's worthless.. Destiny 2, Tetris.. Where is a new Killer Instinct? Phantasy Star online... It's this the only thing you could pull from Japan?? Timed exclusive for 2021, coming to x1 as well...

.....And all games will be on game Pass from day one.. So what's the deal really??

sampsonon2117d ago (Edited 2117d ago )

Gamepass is destroying xbox and the people that down voted you were praising it. Now it slapped them in the face. The old adage "you get what you pay for" is truth, it doesn't matter how much you fanboy.

$70 to PS will be fine by me as long as it stops Sony from helping MS to destroy AAA gaming.
$10 more is a good investment to insure Sony stays true to the hardcore gamer.

bouzebbal2117d ago

Sampsonon

Blows my mind xbox fanboys who say Gamepass is a great deal.. The thing is slaughtering the idea of owning an xbox, xcloud even more because you don't even have to download anymore..
Yes it's a great deal for those who don't own an xbox, but stillwater play one of the games for 10 bucks a month.. For xbox owners it's an insult.. I'd have had it same way if ps now had all PS games day one... I'd save space on my TV table.. But I do not believe in digital future, it's garbage and removes all kinds of freedom.

ThinkThink2116d ago (Edited 2116d ago )

Fanboys need to give it a rest. It was a good showcase of games coming soon. They held back more than I thought they would but I have faith that most of xbox game studios will deliver. Game Pass was the true star of the show though while Series X took the back seat. Either way, it's pretty clear where Microsoft is going and I for one, am all for it.

Smclaren19852110d ago

Yeah this was there chance to show me and others fans , the series X is the console to get . Unfortunately just like this whole generation all there touting of “true 4K “ and “The Most Powefull Console Ever”. Amounted to nothing to show for it . It makes sense to me now why they have been taking pot shots at Sony so much . It’s becoming more and more clear to me developers who have been coming forward praising ps5 for a very good reason . I was going to buy both next gen consoles. I own both now and iv went nearly 3 years with nothing to play on Xbox one x. On the PS4 pro I can’t keep up to be honest . I won’t make the same mistake next generation that’s for sure

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blackblades2117d ago

Na you still have some delusional fans like timdog and his crew that hangs with xdealer that think the show was good. Which is funny cause they complained Sony show was lackluster from gameplay and interesting games.

L7CHAPEL2116d ago

no, they're not.

yours is just another comment to add to the mountain of bullshit.

Smclaren19852110d ago

Exactly the show was a a disaster , they showed next to no gameplay. This tells me all I need to know that none of there games are anywhere near ready there years off. The ones they did show looked current gen

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zsquaresoff2117d ago

It was over when ps4 out ran everyone to the top spot. Expecting the same with ps5 especially with xboxes showing yesterday.

execution172117d ago

Probably be a bigger gap when they do the next state of play

sampsonon2117d ago

Oh my! Sony held most of their heavy hitters the last time.

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RazzerRedux2117d ago

"Let's take Xbox. The company's current strategy is really not compatible with trying to out-sell PlayStation 5. "

Oh bullshit. Can we just stop this nonsense that Microsoft doesn't care if XSX outsells PS5. They clearly do.

NotoriousWhiz2117d ago

Let's be real. I'm sure they'd be happy to outsell PS5, but it's really not their goal. Their goal is clearly to rack up the game pass subscribers.

mkis0072117d ago

I want to see how they can justify spending tens of millions per game every year and keep the quality up. They need a new game every month to keep people subbed. That spreads the budget kind of thin, whether it be for paying publishers for game-pass rights, or for paying their own devs to make AAA games.

RazzerRedux2117d ago (Edited 2117d ago )

Why is there only one "goal"? Yes, they absolutely want to rack up GP subs. But they absolutely want to outsell PS5 as well. Why else do they have Jason Ronald out making derogatory comments about PS5's architecture? Why do they care about having "the most powerful console"? Of course outselling PS5 is their goal. I never said it was their only goal and it isn't.

Knushwood Butt2117d ago

Retail game sales are doing great in the current situation, so there's less incentive for third parties to put their new content on subscription services when they can make more at retail.

DigitallyAfflicted2117d ago

It's not they choice it's what they have left

sampsonon2117d ago

With cheap ass games. I want nothing to do with this b-ll$hit.
Sony, i will gladly pay $10 more for a game as long as you keep looking forward.

stuna12117d ago

Then why invest in such a powerful next gen console? Spend excess in R/D and marketing, when all they needed was a incremental upgrade in tech of like 2 or 4 teraflops of power more and update technology! Simple because they want to sell the console plain and simple!

This is what gets me every time, Xbox fans rushing to try to justify Microsofts blatant disregard for their own fanbase! Have they brainwashed them to the point that they're mindless drones!? Yet that same fanbase is oh so concerned about the splinter in the competition eye never realizing that they have a huge board in their own eye.

RauLeCreuset2116d ago

It's not their goal because they've failed to do it every single gen they've been in. So on to Plan B.

NotoriousWhiz2116d ago

A goal is something to aim to achieve. Outselling the PS5 isn't achievable, so they have to aim for something else.

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DigitallyAfflicted2117d ago

I know. They need to stop pretending and hyping games before showing game play it fails Xbox in the long run

It would be very bad for industry if we loose the competitive side of console market.

Let's keep the war alive ;D

BehindTheRows2117d ago

Competition will be there even if Xbox is not.

NotoriousWhiz2116d ago

"You are naive. Of course it is, and we will find out how importend it is for Microsoft the day it happens, We will never hear end of it... as it was with 360 outselling ps3"

Obviously. If I won the lottery, I'd be super excited too. If I suddenly get promoted to CEO at my job, I'd be super excited then as well. But those are not reasonable goals for me. Of course, Microsoft would be super excited if they could outsell PS5. Just because something excites you doesn't make it a goal.

NotoriousWhiz2116d ago

Wants and goals are two very different things. I want to win the lottery. It is not my goal however. Goals are things you aim and can reasonably expect to achieve. The Xbox outselling PS5 is not one of those things.

DigitallyAfflicted2116d ago

You are naive. Of course it is, and we will find out how importend it is for Microsoft the day it happens, We will never hear end of it... as it was with 360 outselling ps3

Petebloodyonion2116d ago

And why would it be important to outsell Ps5?
I'm sure that MS and Sony are making tons of money on console.
They are making so much money on console that they should release a new version each year.
and in no way shape or form they will sell the new console at loss right?

As a matter of fact why don't Sony release the new Uncharted 5 at launch instead of waiting 2 or 3 years in the console life? They would surely sell more consoles.

Honestly, if you still don't know that money is made on software and not hardware I don't know what to say.
And just remember since both companies are still making tons of money (yeah Xbox is making money) I'm sure that they can hire ppl that are way more competent than you and me to evaluate their business model and change it if the need arise.

Ps. when I buy a Pc game thru Windows store for my PC, MS is making the same money as buying thru Xbox store and when I buy it from Steam they give a cut just like they would for Bestbuy, Gamestop, etc.

RazzerRedux2116d ago

"And why would it be important to outsell Ps5?"

Then why is it important to have the "most powerful console"? Why does Phil Spencer flatly say he wants to win this next generation? I never said anything about MS making money on Xbox or that money isn't made on software. More shit you just make up to invent arguments. And shit like this:

"Ps. when I buy a Pc game thru Windows store for my PC, MS is making the same money as buying thru Xbox store and when I buy it from Steam they give a cut just like they would for Bestbuy, Gamestop, etc."

WTF does that have to do with anything being talked about? It is like you are having a conversation with 10 other people in your head. The only thing relevant about all that shit you typed was the first sentence.

DigitallyAfflicted2115d ago

I guess you right, if Sony sells 5 ps5 they will still make lots of money on selling software... I'm speechless

Petebloodyonion2115d ago (Edited 2115d ago )

@digitally
I agree with you and that Sony's decision. to leave behind X millions of Ps4 users in hoping that they will jump on the PS5 since they already have their stuffs on Ps4 (backward compatibility).
On the other hand MS is banking also on the same Xbox1 user that want to keep stuff,
but they will also get the same money from Windows 10 user, Surface and tablet user with Xcloud. Basically if you are having smart screen you can be a Xbox gamepass user and after that well go see my point about ppl who don't to lose their shit. so they might upgrade Pc or buy Serie X.

Now I'm not saying that Sony's idea is wrong it's just not the same and the why MS isn't so focus on selling you a serieX at loss.

Petebloodyonion2115d ago

Then why is it important to have the "most powerful console"?
Marketing logic after being label as expensive and weaker console.
Same apply to why MS is so consumer friendly now.
It's basic marketing 101
go read the Coca cola new Coke failure story it's a common case used in marketing and why we have Classic Coke.
https://www.marketing91.com...

"Why does Phil Spencer flatly say he wants to win this next generation?"
I'm sure you can provide the source of this claim. Right?
And I'm the one making stuff up to invent argument he says.

RazzerRedux2115d ago

"And I'm the one making stuff up to invent argument he says."

And this is the part where you STFU.

"At some level, it is a competition, and I've said before I want to win," Spencer tells us."
https://www.gameinformer.co...

“We have a plan and we feel very solid about it. I believe we have a plan that can win [the next generation."
https://thisgengaming.com/2...

Petebloodyonion2114d ago (Edited 2114d ago )

"And this is the part where you STFU."

when you go for a haymaker make sure to not miss!

Bringing an incomplete quote from a 2014 article man regarding Xbox1 early fumble sure proves my point about you making stuff up to suits your argument.

Now regarding your second link.
I admit I am surprised... then I saw TGG... so that must be true (yeah right)!

So I watch the whole Interview and yep nowhere in the Interview does Phil say or make allusion to that comment.
The closest things he says about competition and Ps4 is around 14:15 when asked if it's a long game and answer
yes (he actually congratulate Sony and the job they pulled) and proceeds to explain that a lot of past Xbox user went to Ps4 and how he hopes to win them back.
The exact quote at 15:41 is: "We believe in our plan and It will happen"

But I really tks you for the second link cause the whole Interview is a direct answer to your 1st claim
" Can we just stop this nonsense that Microsoft doesn't care if XSX outsells PS5. They clearly do."

Still talking :)
Now, do you have something to say?

RazzerRedux2114d ago

You should have just shut up.

https://www.google.com/sear...

I'm done with your idiocy.

Petebloodyonion2114d ago (Edited 2114d ago )

So now let me google that to prove your point?
Hope you're not a lawyer man cause you must have a terrible record.
Now 2 of the top links that pop up is crediting the TGG article with the same Interview and 2 are forum relating the same article.
Again
Did you listen to the whole Interview? I did (twice)
And go see my 1st statement.

Now one link from PushSquare talk about podcast Unlocked (another Interview) from the same IGN crew with the same similar quotes (that I have yet to listen).
Now I don't need to listen to it to prove the point that you are still trying to stick 1 comment in a whole interview (assuming it's right) to suit your narrative view while dismissing the rest of both Interviews that completely debunk your 1st claim.
"Oh bullshit. Can we just stop this nonsense that Microsoft doesn't care if XSX outsells PS5. They clearly do"
It starts at 7:10 min in the console watch Interview
https://sea.ign.com/hardwar...
(and see I'm giving you the source material of your claims instead of a google search).

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio11d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing11d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9211d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit11d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing11d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9211d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Second time's the charm.

cl198312d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Seams like a nice controller

Reaper22_11d ago

Two analog sticks acrossvftom each other is a no go.When will everyone learn.

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