@RazzerRedux

"Obviously their own store wasn't cutting it."

You don´t know that. The simple fact that Xbox games are selling this well on Steam is just further proof that Xbox games continues to sell despite Gamepass.

Steam is not the only platform MS is looking to expand the Xbox brand. Sony is not stupid and now is following MS steps also looking to expand the Playstation brand.

@Obscure_Observer

"You don´t know that."

No, but it is fairly obvious. 87% of Steam users have access to the Microsoft store as they are Windows 10 users (according to Steam survey). So the "option" to buy these games have been there all this time. It took MS a while to make the decision to put their games on Steam. Deciding to share 30% of their revenue with Valve couldn't have been an easy decision to make. But better to share 30% revenue of a product that is selling well then have 100% revenue of a product that is selling poorly. It is common sense.

"The simple fact that Xbox games are selling this well on Steam is just further proof that Xbox games continues to sell despite Gamepass."

Actually that points to the irrelevance of Game Pass to Steam gamers more than anything else. The 10 million Game Pass subscribers isn't very much when factored in across Xbox One and the entirety of PC gamers that have access to it. I'd wager the vast majority of GP subscribers are on Xbox One. Probably why GP on PC is still only $5.

"Steam is not the only platform MS is looking to expand the Xbox brand. Sony is not stupid and now is following MS steps also looking to expand the Playstation brand."

And I hope they do. Bottom line, if you want to be successful selling your games on PC, you sell them on Steam.

@RazzerRedux

"87% of Steam users have access to the Microsoft store as they are Windows 10 users (according to Steam survey). So the "option" to buy these games have been there all this time."

And how exactly you know those people weren´t buying those games on Windows Store all this time and just prefer to have those games on their Steam Library? You know, options. So no, nothing obvious outside of you head.

"Actually that points to the irrelevance of Game Pass to Steam gamers more than anything else. "

According to your logic, Gamepass with more than 10 million users in 3 years is irrelevant to Steam gamers, PS Now is certainly not existent.

"Deciding to share 30% of their revenue with Valve couldn't have been an easy decision to make"

I doubt that was the deal, since Xbox games are not on Epic Store. ;)

"And I hope they do. Bottom line, if you want to be successful selling your games on PC, you sell them on Steam."

Probally right. I though Sony games would be under Epic store exclusivity and I was clearly mistaken.

"And how exactly you know those people weren´t buying those games on Windows Store all this time and just prefer to have those games on their Steam Library? You know, options. So no, nothing obvious outside of you head."

So all these Steam gamers are buying these games a second time? Doubtful. Maybe a few, but I seriously doubt that is the case for the vast majority especially considering these games have cross play with Steam. What would be the point? But again, if sales were so successful on Microsoft store then MS wouldn't bother putting the games on Steam at all. This is about MS making money on Steam, first and foremost.

"According to your logic, Gamepass with more than 10 million users in 3 years is irrelevant to Steam gamers, PS Now is certainly not existent."

lol....that is pretty much a given.

"I doubt that was the deal, since Xbox games are not on Epic Store. ;)"

So MS made a deal with Valve to keep the games off EGS for a lesser commission rate? Very possible. Like I said, this is more about making money than "options". If MS were truly so interested in giving "options" then their games would be on EGS as well.

I don't think people are that uptight about what store they buy on. At least not the masses. But, MS does so little to promote their own store, I think a lot of regular people that don't frequent forums they just don't even know it exists. It has almost no presence on Windows installs, it'd be easy to not even know that its there. Steam spend a couple decades building it's user base. MS is doing the complete opposite of what they would normally do with shoving it's products down your throat on Windows itself.

I used to think that MS store wouldn't do well because gamers were too hell bent on sticking to Steam, but EGS kind of proved that wrong, generally speaking.

@Looper @king

Believe what you wanna believe. Do you think I care what yall think? At the end of the day I'm still saving lots of money whether you like it or not. Gotta give them credit for that and I hope they don't change that.

Thank you for your permission. I will continue to believe what I believe.

@Looper @King_Noctis

Ok....I'll just ask. What evidence do you have that suggests CaptainHenry916 doesn't have a gaming PC?

"I will continue to believe what I believe."

lol....is that it? A belief? Yeah...I've seen this bullshit before. Folks like you have this need to believe PC gamers don't actually exist or some such nonsense. What is that all about? Reeks of insecurity, frankly.

Am in @CaptainHenry916 situation. No need to pay for Xbox live. Gamepass available for £4 a month and most of the time £1 a month. If I didn't have gamepass I would of bought Minecraft dungeons and gears tactics, two point hospital for example. Money I have saved has went into my ps5 and GPU upgrade fund. Am just waiting to see the next wave of Nvidia cards to release and big Navi.

Sony's chatbot is notoriously garbage at providing even basic information and functioning properly. I wouldn't take anything it says seriously.

That said, if this is true, this is serious af. Major L for gamers across the board.

It’s no mistake someone got paid to code that in the update and it wasn’t just for the lol

Most of those games are trash. Deal bro🤣 Ponies gotta pony up. Muma Sony wants some more cash. PC bro! Good ol' games. Look it up.

O man you remember that PS3 statement from crazy Ken Kutagri whatever is last name is, was so cringe for saying,”Your gonna want PS3 so bad you need 2 jobs!” That guy overhype the crap out of PS3, that was the most expensive console, an a lot of misinformation about the graphics and performance delta over 360.

Xbox drm was for physical games also and 24 hours with no sharing

Yeah stuff like this is why competition is needed. The ps360 era was peak gaming. Microsoft and Sony waging a full on war and Nintendo just kinda doing their own thing. The gamers only benefited from that. Then Microsoft shot themselves in the dick with the Xbone and that gen felt like a step down from the previous (imo), though it wasn't bad still.
Then you have the current gen, which honestly feels like one big nothingburger. Barely anything interesting gets released while prices keep going up which to me is just insane. Astro Bot is basically their only exclusive that I'd be interested in buying, but I'm not buying an console just for that. Especially not one as expensive as the ps5... I would add Demon's Souls to that, but I already played the original. Loved the game, but a remake isn't a system seller for me.

@cytricks You are focusing again on the 30 days too, "oh sony said its only 30 days so we are safe" While its not a probability YET, just know that your playstation turns into a brick if sony decides to turn off those servers.

Sony's lack of communication is telling my conspiracy filled mind lol that they're testing to see if they can get away with this. If it was truly a mistake, they would have acknowledged it, apologised, and stated they're working on a fix.