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DarkZero: Wii Music Review

In the end, there are just so many other options out there, most that make Wii Music look archaic in comparison, and because of that there is very little reason to take a step down to buy it. If you want a game that lets you make music go buy the KORG DS-10 Synthesiser. It's an amazing piece of tech shrunk down on a DS cart that allows you to be uber-creative without a host of restrictions blocking your imagination.

If you want real music, then DarkZero is sure you'll find some entry level instruments near the £40 RRP. If want a game that lets you mimic music, then go buy Rock Band or Guitar Hero. If you want to sing, then get Singstar or Lips. If you want something kid friendly, the get Elite Beat Agents. If you want to waste your money, then buy this.

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bbelly9320_6396d ago

I'm not surprised.

Casuals who don't care about quality (wii owners) might enjoy it though.

ChickeyCantor6396d ago (Edited 6396d ago )

" If you want a game that lets you make music go buy the KORG DS-10 Synthesiser. It's an amazing piece of tech shrunk down on a DS cart that allows you to be uber-creative without a host of restrictions blocking your imagination.
"
Yay for a nother stupid comparison...

"If you want real music, then DarkZero is sure you'll find some entry level instruments near the £40 RRP. If want a game that lets you mimic music, then go buy Rock Band or Guitar Hero. "

Aah getting deeper in the case of "MISSING THE POINT".

from the beach6396d ago

"This oversimplification causes many problems, although none more destructive than the feeling of absolute boredom you get less than 30 short minutes after you start playing - as by then you’ve seen just about seen everything the game has to offer."

Who, me?

"Ultimately, Wii Music is the equivalent of Leonardo da Vinci saying he’ll paint the Mona Lisa for you, but then deciding to challenge himself by using a Etch A Sketch. Yes, I am sure the clever old codger could work out something, but you’re sure as hell not going to take a vacation to Paris to view the end result."

OMG PWND

TheColbertinator6396d ago

This game might be meant for kids but when it gets reviews this low,its somewhat insulting as a gift.I rather get them Banjo Kazooie 3,Animal Crossing or LBP.Nintendo could capitalize on bringing casual and hardcore gamers into one group and that strategy will be unstoppable if done right.If they like music,I would get them Rock Band and Guitar Hero so they can get a taste of real music like classic rock.

Hopefully we can see what the next project of Miyamoto will be next year.

ChickeyCantor6396d ago

"This game might be meant for kids but when it gets reviews this low,its somewhat insulting as a gift."

But from what perspective are these "games" getting low scores?
Who says a kid won't like this because a grown up "hardcore" player doesn't like it?

Even my niece of 3 and a half year old plays Kirby on the DS, but next to that she loves things i could hardly like, so should i not get those things as a gift for her because I don't like it?
These reviews should not be reflected as a reference point for kids.

The guy starts with if you wanna make music...where was Wii-music promoted to "make" music? you "play" music..."go buy a real instrument"...yes cause you will be playing songs in a minute right!?...
seriously if you say these things than you missed the point of this software.

Now i don't care for the score, but if you can't understand how to make difference between audiences and the goals of each software you shouldn't be reviewing at all.

TheColbertinator6396d ago (Edited 6396d ago )

Sidar,I just can't support this.From what I played,from what reviewers I agree with,and from the integrity of Nintendo's past as a whole,I can't support this thing.I understand your point and its valid but it just doesn't apply to me and what I believe in from good gaming.I have no problem with Animal Crossing and Wii Sports or even Wii Fit but Wii Music is just one of the last games I want associated with the Wii.Sorry .I enjoy the Wii but I will show no interest for Wii Music.

As for the kids,I will give them any of Miyamoto's classics and I promise you they will enjoy them as much as I did at one point in my life.That is the legacy I want to leave to the gaming youth,games that everyone agreed were fantastic

@iamtehpwn

Harsh words but you may be right

iamtehpwn6396d ago (Edited 6396d ago )

And I even defended Wii Fit.
But defending Wii Music?
You're out of your mind.

This could've been a good game on Wii Shop channel for 500 points.

@ Steven. Yeah. Sad to say though.

ChickeyCantor6396d ago (Edited 6396d ago )

I'm not saying you should support this, but you are saying that this is an insult as a gift and you based your statement on the fact that these reviews are made by "core" gamers.

It's just out of place to say that Kids won't like this because of these reviews.
Because you don't like it doesn't mean someone else won't, You don't have to show interest but you could still get it as a gift...The things you bring up are 2 different things.

@Iamtehpwn.

I don't care what it could have been, my point is that people bash something while they miss the point of it.
They keep comparing it to GH or RB, They say you should just get a real instrument.
Serioulsy...it's out of place.
If people don't like it fine, but don't go twist matters to your own perspective while the developer behind it had different goals with it.

Even my brother of 18 said lets get Wii-music just for fun...i said Why? He said well i don't care the drumz just seem fun.
I even said lets get Guitar Hero that will last longer.( i'm not comparing the two but knowing him he would have liked Wii-music anyway and i could have appreciated it too but we both know that GuitarHero is more our cup of Energy drink)
I'm not against you people who think this sucks, i'm against things that are not making sense!

Even though i do think the core concept of this software is brilliant.
But the way it came out is a different story...But this does not mean kids will not like it. I'm not gonna kill my niece just because we don't have the same taste(yes i'm strecthing that).

I rather support this simply because if one game sells bad promotion and development money whent to waste, money they earn that could help other developments too. And this goes to any company who has great projects in development...unless you make something like SPOGS...seriously...that was just ....>_<.

TheColbertinator6396d ago

I hope your right Sidar.I truly hope the profit from these games goes to something real big in the near future

iamtehpwn6396d ago (Edited 6396d ago )

at the end of the day,
This is a $50 title.

Fifty. Dollars.
You can't say that Wii Music is worth as much as Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, or Metriod Prime 3.

The debate shouldn't be if Wii music is good, the debate should be that we're paying $50 for this crap.

ChickeyCantor6396d ago

Depends,
You need to earn your money back and on top of that some profits.
I have no idea how much the development costs were.

It also depends per person, if some one liked it then i guess that money is well spend. If you didn't then you wasted your money...

But i really don't get what money got to do with things...
You aren't getting it anyway...so why would the price matter?
If people get it, they got it with their own conscious.

They could also say "sorry but the price is to high" and not get it.
If these things don't sell prices come down anyway.

wether 50 is to much or not depends on different factors/elements.
(promotion, development costs etc etc).
To you it's crap, someone else might find it great. But we all want stuff for a lower price don't we ? =P

iamtehpwn6396d ago

They use MIDI.
Mii's.
and cheap backgrounds.

It cost about $3 to develop.

I COULD have developed wii music.

ChickeyCantor6396d ago (Edited 6396d ago )

?_?
I explained it like a millions of times.
MIDI does not define the quality of Sound Samples.

Midi is only the interface between software and hardware.
It receives and returns Data. That's all.
Professional soundbanks go up to 100Gb.
The GM.DLS in your windows folder is 3MB.
Doesn't tell jack about Midi.

Most orchestrated music in games are done with MIDI.
Yes that's a fact. Theme of World of warcraft? MIDI.
just to name one example.

I bet that at some point Developers will make use of MIDI on 360 or PS3 because that way they can change music dynamically.
But this doesn't mean the sound will be terrible, infact it could sound realistic.

Anyway,
So in your view they used MIDI( cheap soundbank is the correct word here) and therefor it should be a Wii-ware title? what about the people they payed? developing the software?
It doesn't come falling from the sky. Putting a concept on Paper is easier than putting it in actual production. If you put the bad sound samples aside, what about the use of controls how they affect the notes and stuff like that?
MIDI( seriously it's the wrong word) doesn't have that at all.

You are just saying it is "cheap" due the simplicity of looks and sound, doesn't mean there was no promotion, doesn't mean there was no manwork behind it and stuff like that.

And seriously, if i were to get it i would be paying 50 EURO'S...of course price lower than that would have been great. I didn't pay 50 euro's for Mario Kart. So why they put it to 50, i have no idea.

@below,
I'm apologizing?
You are pathetic, so only because i have a different view on this I'm payed by Nintendo?

But i'll play along; They pay me good!!!

" Oh, and Sidar, all these "Wii _____" games could be on either XBL or PSN for less than $20 bucks a piece "
Yes yes whatever boils your goat, i was really arguing this right?
If you don't understand what i'm trying to say then don't even bother.
The things i'm saying could basically be applied to different companies too.

" We're getting ripped off with the Wii. "
You are getting ripped off by Nintendo?
O my I never knew Nintendo was holding a gun to your head and made you buy their software.
If Nintendo is ripping you off and you know it, and still get their software than you have no one to blame but yourself, like i said people buy stuff with their conscious...i guess you lack that.

And waiting after i reached my bubble limit is just pathetic.

RussDeBuss6396d ago

If it's aimed at kids, why are they advertising it on tv in the uk with a group of for adults playing it, and they look like a right bunch of cheeseballs.

Danja6396d ago

Wii Music isn't aimed at kids , Nintendo decided to just hop on the bandwagon due tot he succes of GH and Rockband on the Wii..and thought ppl would have bought Wii Music since millions have been buying inot there crappy games lately...like the (Wii-Play , Wii-Sports etc..!

but Wii music sucks...I dont even consider it a full game they should have called it Wii-Music Prologue or something...

im not even going to bother buy Animal Crossing again that game looks like a DS game...and so far reviews are pointing to mediocre....

Sidar I understand that you believe in The big N...but stuff likw Wii Music is acomplete rip off..

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baum6396d ago (Edited 6396d ago )

I'm sick of you apologizing for Nintendo. How much do they pay you? If you enjoy your Wii then do it. If you're worried about Wii's success, then don't be! It's selling very well, I'm sure that a few Xbox fanboys will agree with you that sales of a game determine its quality.

Anyway, it seems that this is the only game of the "Wii ________" series I'm not buying, it's junk basically. Can't believe Miyamoto did this. Can't believe Nintendo has the Chutzpah to think they can get away with this. And worse, can't believe they are actually getting it their way! After all, if review scores don't hit their bottomline, why would they opt for quality?

Nintendo has opted to deliver quantity at mass market prices, they sold out. They're the new EA.

Oh, and Sidar, all these "Wii _____" games could be on either XBL or PSN for less than $20 bucks a piece and would come with online play and achievements/trophies, not to mention that they'd have higher production values as in having better physics, graphics, and perhaps even a backstory. We're getting ripped off with the Wii.

NipGrip6396d ago

Are completely OUT of the demographic this game is aimed at. It's a case of someone who is into Hip Hop judging a country music contest. Of COURSE they won't like the songs, it's not their demographic. The Wii and it's games for the most part are aimed at a more casual, less nitpicky audience that just enjoys having fun without having to pretend to be a big beefy guy with big guns. Wii Music isn't for most folks, but for kids and folks that don't want to play fake drums and guitars or understand the concept of GH and RB, Wii Music is fun. It's casual, it's easy, and it's fun. Review scores by "hardcore gamers" be damned.

If Nintendo has shown anything this generation with the Wii and the DS (which were BOTH mocked by the "hardcore" crowd before and still after release, it's that they can outsell what the hardcore enjoys by a landslide and still be popular despite what hardcore reviewers may say. The "hardcore" crowd is the niche, the smaller group that can sell an impressive amount, sure. But it's nothing compared to what the Wii sells.

Look at the bestsellers in Gaming on Amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/be...

It's nearly nothing BUT Nintendo related games and items. In the end, who cares what the hardcore reviewers say. If you're looking for a fun, casual music based game, Wii Music is good. I personally will still play RB and GH over it, but my 2 year old loves the heck out of it. And Mario Kart. I can hardly get time to play Motorstorm 2 from playing Mario Kart so much and you know.. It's fun!

baum6396d ago (Edited 6396d ago )

-The Wii has Gamecube like capabilities. Basically, it can run at 480p@60fps what the gamecube did in 480i@30fps. It only focuses on a new control method while next-gen consoles focus on EVERYTHING ELSE. That's why its games suck for today's standards, not because it has another target demographic or crowd.

-The Wii doesn't even take advantage of internet capabilities in most games. It pales in comparison to PSN/XBL. Games like Wii Fit, Wii Sports, Wii Play, and so on could be greatly enhanced in terms of graphics, physics, online play (both co-op and competitive), trophies/achievements, top 100 scores lists (leaderboards), user generated content, procedurally generated content, in-game messaging, Downloadable Content and expansions, communication by microphone and webcam. I mean seriously, these games could be a lot better and still appeal to casuals.

-The DS is hardcore because it has tons of hardcore games and because it's a jump from SNES like capabilities to N64 like capabilities. The DS is OK as it added a stylus but didn't kill buttons and still upgraded the hardware. The DSi is an insult to gamers though because they have to upgrade once the new games start coming out for it (if they ever?), even though it's almost the same hardware. It's a jump from gamecube to wii again. Pathetic.

I bought my DS for Zelda but after this move from Nintendo, nothing stops me fron buying some flash cards and start pirating DS and GBA games because if they can get away with their bullsh1t, then I should get away with playing without paying. They're not really spending any money and clearly lots of gamers aren't satisfied so why should we spend money on them anyway?

-The problem isn't the target demographic. This is for casuals, and there are music games that aren't as complicated as Rock Band and Guitar Hero but that don't suck as hard as Wii Music. Singstar and American Idol come to mind.

Seriously, Nintendo has done NOTHING this generation. They played it smart by releasing a repackaged gamecube with a new image and thereby not spending anything but cents on R&D. They played it very smart by releasing Gamecube's best game (Zelda TP) as a Wii launch title while neglecting the poor gamecube. And they also played it very smart by fooling people into believing that the Wii is actually accurate with motion. People think they're actually 100% in control of the game. Nintendo deceived all gamers and their success is not deserved if success actually depends on effort.

Nintendo simply saw the opportunity to take advantage of an untapped market, which is the extremely casual market, the market that doesn't give a sh1t about quality, quantity, originality or variety in their games. They just want something new, not necessarily innovative and good, but simply a novelty. Wii is more of a fashion symbol than an actual gaming console. People own it because it's "the thing to own".

The only way I could agree with you in terms of demographics is if this game was geared for 3 year olds, retards, ignorants and people that don't know where to spend their money on.

Edit:

"Your comments are very ignorant and almost dreamy. The Wii is leaps and bounds better than the GameCube due to its online, Channels, ability to play VC games, built in wireless, USB support, Mii's (which MS found to be a GREAT idea apparently, huh?), on and on."

So where is the ability to add any HDD I want? Or at least any proprietary HDD? Its online is crippled when you put it against PSN or XBL. I mean seriously, PSN was crap last gen, and look at it now. It's almost on par with XBL and still free. XBL is still great. Nintendo WiFi has proven to be a major failure because either Nintendo doesn't know anything about online or they just don't give a damn.

The Mii's idea is great, after all Microsoft ripped them off and both M$ and Sony were working on social virtual universes last generation, MS was developing XBL Universe which they put on hold (I don't doubt they're trying to revive it after Home comes out), and Home was actually planned to be implemented in PS2 since 2003 but it never came to fruition due to hardware capabilities and most likely for lack of broadband penetration. So again, why are the Mii's so underused? The Mii's have potential but that's all there is to them. I am actually in the Home Beta and IMHO that's almost as good as personal avatars can get.

"Sure.. The graphics are about the same. That's it though and the focus on improving nothing more than graphics by some other consoles is what makes their jump from the last generation NOT so great.
Contrasted against the jump from the XBOX 1 to the 360.. The only thing that has changed is the graphics there. The XBOX 1 has a HD in *every* unit. It had live.. It didn't have wireless controllers I suppose, but pound for pound, the Wii is a greater jump this generation from it's past than the 360 is from it's own. If you disagree with this statement, please list the ways the 360 has improved over the original XBOX other than graphics in ways that couldn't have been done with a GUI change? My original XBOX with XBMC is a great machine and it's a shame MS gave up on it so soon, but that's a different debate. "

You know, it's funny you call me ignorant when you don't even know everything that the jump from Xbox to Xbox 360, and especially the jump from PS2 to PS3 represent. It's not just "graphics", it's physics, sound, artificial intelligence, procedurally generated content, user generated content, downloadable content, unified online IDs, unified friend lists, episodic content, interactive and/or cinematic storytelling, leaderboards, social gaming communities, massive multiplayer online gaming (be it cooperative or competitive), achievements, trophies, virtual worlds. I mean seriously, the wii has NOTHING like this. I've spent about $700 bucks on the Wii already but it's still my least used system. Its channels are worthless, why would I care? I mean that's like listing Folding@home and PlayStation Life as selling points. Note I'm only mentioning gaming features here, because unlike the Wii, the 360 and especially the PS3 have a lot more to offer in terms of entertainment.

"It's not the system for you, we get it. But it does have a market out there and if you think everyone who bought one only to be on a bandwagon or because it's "cool" or whatnot.. Don't be so foolish. I suppose you'll also tell me the DS is crap and the touch screen is gimmicky?"

No, as I said before, the DS is awesome because it was a jump in every way from the GBA to the DS. However, the DSi, as I said above, is insulting as it's a marginal jump like the GC to Wii and not from SNES to N64.

"More to the point, let Nintendo do it's own thing. It affects you none. You're not interested in it and thankfully you have a 360 or PS3 to entertain you. They owe you nothing. They are making money hand over fist despite your inability to understand why."

Well, it's not like I can do anything to stop Nintendo, but I sure as hell will be vocal about their bullsh1t. I have all consoles this gen, including portables and a PC that can run Crysis on admittedly settings that aren't optimal but at least it can. I like games, and I'm pissed off at Nintendo because they made some great consoles before. Nintendo could have gone another way, but oh well.

There is no inability for me to understand why they're making money hand over fist, I get it perfectly, they are taking advantage of people's ignorance in that they don't know there are other comparable but better experiences elsewhere. People simply don't give a sh1t about quality software and Nintendo knows that. Nintendo, being unable to see their own mistakes with the hardcore crowd and third parties in the past (mistakes which were too obvious like not including a CD drive in the N64, not putting a DVD drive in the gamecube, so simple) realized that the only option for them would be to release utter garbage and sell it as if it was the legendary golden turd.

The reason Nintendo's newfound success affects all gamers is that it means developers might eventually "port up" from Wii to PS3 and 360 instead of the other way around. Not only that, but without PS3 and 360 reaching the homes that the Wii has reached, their longevity will be affected, and even worse, 720 and PS4 might just be a leap as small as it was from the gamecube to Wii.

So we'll all be stuck with last-gen technology because people are too stupid to realize that the Wii is obsolete from the get go and still successful. "Hardcore" gamers will either have the choice of settling with whatever "next-gen" offers, or become PC gamers, but that's a lot more expensive than being a console gamer.

I hope the Wii is stopped or that for some reason Wii's start getting some sort of RROD because otherwise gaming is doomed as we know it.

"And I'm no Wii fanboy, I simply have this magical ability to step out of my own shoes and see why others would enjoy it at it's price point. "

I see why others enjoy it. They *think* they have full control of the game even when they don't. Nintendo also has a rabid fanbase which buys mostly first party games. That's why 3rd parties don't make much money on Nintendo unless they decide to make shovelware. And I don't blame them, they're doing exactly what Nintendo is doing, the difference is that Nintendo has the marketing tools that others don't.

It's sad to see No More Heroes, Boom Blox, and other 3rd party games flop so hard when Wii Play is the best selling game this generation. Developers get the message.

NipGrip6396d ago (Edited 6396d ago )

Your comments are very ignorant and almost dreamy. The Wii is leaps and bounds better than the GameCube due to its online, Channels, ability to play VC games, built in wireless, USB support, Mii's (which MS found to be a GREAT idea apparently, huh?), on and on.

Sure.. The graphics are about the same. That's it though and the focus on improving nothing more than graphics by some other consoles is what makes their jump from the last generation NOT so great. Contrasted against the jump from the XBOX 1 to the 360.. The only thing that has changed is the graphics there. The XBOX 1 has a HD in *every* unit. It had live.. It didn't have wireless controllers I suppose, but pound for pound, the Wii is a greater jump this generation from it's past than the 360 is from it's own. If you disagree with this statement, please list the ways the 360 has improved over the original XBOX other than graphics in ways that couldn't have been done with a GUI change? My original XBOX with XBMC is a great machine and it's a shame MS gave up on it so soon, but that's a different debate.

It's not the system for you, we get it. But it does have a market out there and if you think everyone who bought one only to be on a bandwagon or because it's "cool" or whatnot.. Don't be so foolish. I suppose you'll also tell me the DS is crap and the touch screen is gimmicky?

More to the point, let Nintendo do it's own thing. It affects you none. You're not interested in it and thankfully you have a 360 or PS3 to entertain you. They owe you nothing. They are making money hand over fist despite your inability to understand why.

And I'm no Wii fanboy, I simply have this magical ability to step out of my own shoes and see why others would enjoy it at it's price point. Hopefully, Nintendo will use their money buckets made this generation to make a box next time that will appeal to gamers that must have the latest generation graphics to feel like they are having fun? That's all I can hope for, but if they don't, I am sure other companies will fill those needs and Nintendo can do their own things.

OmarJA6396d ago

Where is PP ? he might like this game...

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WeAreLegion4287d ago

I was expecting an article about the entire industry. This is sort of the norm for these types of games though.