wow, first time to read an impression that is neutral or kinda like negative. the important thing is that IGN.com gave this beta a positive impressions.

Apart from the amazing graphics i dont see why this game is being hyped to the sky because when the reviews hit i dont see it scoring higher than an 8.9-9 on most sites and while thats not bad its not as good as everyone is making it to be

I mean there is absolutely nothing about the gameplay what is unique, the environments are all the same (buildings, buildings and more buildings), from what i've seen there are no unique weapons that Killzone can call their own, barely any videos show people using the cover system which give the impression that the feature is more of a gimmick, the story seems non-existent i mean what are the names of the main characters and what are they fighting for?

There is just too much which could go wrong for this game for it to become a AAA shooter i mean just look at Killzone 1

"but there are many other games out there which have more to offer."

Name me One, ONE game that has:
64 Player Clans
Dynamic Missions (R2 only one that comes to mind)
In game Tournaments (256 clans per tournament)
Valor Points (Or any other type of clan currency)
Customizable classes
KZ2's level of Graphics (Crysis only tops it barely)

"The weapons are about as generic as they come, featuring the expected array of pistols, assault rifles, shotguns, sniper rifles and explosives that most any game with a military theme is expected to boast."

So... i guess CoD4, RB6 and RB6V, BC, BF2, and Halo 3 are as generic as they come aswell?

"Even the player cap, set at 32, falls into the fine, yet unremarkable range."

.... *Looks at Halo 3s 16 cap and Gears2 10 cap* /Facepalm

"Something else that surprised me to no small degree was how unimpressed I was by the visuals."

Wow... just goes to show that this guy jumped onto the Beta Wanting to hate the game, and i find it funny that the only thing he can say thats wrong with it visually is that its "gray"... wow, just wow...

/facepalm

y doesnt ny one mention the new innovative squad system which allows players to stick together and how fun it is when you are playign with a medic and a sniper backign u p and how balanced the teamplay is is

this game is no R2 or halo3 it is a highly tactical game liek counterstrike even more tactical say a cross between counter strike team fortress and cod4 with uber realistic grahics and awesome weapons and classes

i think sme ppl have the wrong expectations this is not crazy cod4 style stuff

Ive been in the beta from the private phase and now the public phase, the original poster must be playing a different game to me.....

proves that anybody can have a voice on the net. lots of times someone goes completely off just to get hits and we keep falling for it.

and give credit where credit is due.
He sounds like he's FUD of Killzone2.

lol @ article

Looks to be another flop any other game coming out in 09 on ps3 that want be a flop.

This 'article' was written by some random dude? That's awesome!

So yeah, random dude, care to tell us all which console game looks better than Killzone 2? I'm really interested to know, honestly.

Oh, and a tip: when you post your impressions about something, don't start out by saying 'its not as good as it was hyped to be'. Cause you know what, your job is to talk about what you are seeing and playing, the game itself, not what the PR people or other people told you it is/would be.

Oh, and one more thing: the first persons to 'hype' games are...you guessed it, the media!

Remember, Killzone 1 was deemed the 'Halo killer' by EGM, not Guerrilla, not Sony. Everyone seems to forget that, however.

P.S. Its not a great looking game. Its the best looking console game, period. And thats not a matter of opinion, its a fact. ;)

How long did this guy play the game? 5 minutes?

get a new HDTV this holiday stewie32887...

the TV makes a difference.. trust me.. my monitor made SOCOM: Confrontation looked like last gen after playing at my friend's house with his 1080p supported Monitor..

I think it's safe to say he lost all credibility after making the above comment.

6.0-7.5s for this game. I would not mind it getting these scores but at least have valid arguments against it instead of showing your inner hatred towards a console lol. But seems like most of these 1Ups/Eurogamer/game$pot and xbots like the one who wrote this article trying very hard for this game to fail and nit picking on things that were ok in many other FPSes. Why this hate from "professional" gaming websites towards PS3 and its exclusives is beyond me now.

My predictions:
1. 1UP B-
2. Eurogamer 6.5
3. Game$spot 6.9

The fact this guy can't discern between the correct use of 'to' and 'too' lends little to his credibility: "From a distance the game certainly looks nice, and maintains some level of appealing grit, but when you get up close to things they tend too look generic." Also, I'm in the beta and I've played through Resistance 2. R2 is a beautiful game in my opinion. But to honestly compare the textures in R2 and Killzone 2 is just nonsensical. I could on about the fallacies of this guys argument for why he thinks Killzone 2 will fail... but I won't.

Also, for all the people above me who say they can't see anything the gameplay of Killzone 2 does differently... well you can't see how a game 'feels'.. you have to play it. There doesn't need to be 50 different gun types that do all kinds of crazy things to keep you entertained... the simple act of shooting the pistol in this game is amazing in itself. To me, that's where the gameplay of Killzone 2 sets itself far and above other shooters. Be that as it is, everyone may not like it.

whats there to complain about? its a mix of all the best multiplayers

to me so far it looks like a mix of TF2 and COD4/5

OK I'll tell you all what happened here.

The graphics have been hyped as the best thing ever. Crysis DOES look better, so, presuming this guy has played Crysis, and then he hears the claims about the graphics of this game, then he notices graphical flaws and the fact that it's not the be-all end-all of graphics, he is slightly let down. Now he's said that they're still amazing, and he's said that it's a graphical powerhouse, but he wants to provide a counterpoint to all the other previews because he felt let down by the graphics based on the hype.

He plays the "it's been done before" card. Now hadn't Gears 2 been done before? Gears 1 anybody? Now before you say that's a silly comparison, I'll say that Gears 2 innovates over Gears 1 in about as many ways as KZ2 does over other shooters on the market. Why hate on it in this way? Well, he's played the beta, and it all feels a little "standard". It doesn't stand out because he's just shooting people, and needs something more in each game he plays. He's probably got a little bored of FPS games in all honesty.

I can see Killzone 2 getting some low scores, not because it's a bad game, not because the graphics are not what people expected, not because it's not fun, not because it lacks content, not because the AI is bad, but simply because the reviewers will expect more than it has ever promised. It's never pretended to be anything more than an FPS. It's in the FPS genre, and it has a linear, scripted single player campaign and a 32 player multiplayer mode.

Here's my prediction; some magazine will say words to this effect in their review:

"Killzone 2 is a visual masterpiece, and it plays solidly. But can I say anything more than that it plays solidly? Well, the single player campaign is action packed, if a little linear, and lasted a solid 8 hours on my first playthrough. The atmosphere is great in this game, it's the little touches that make you feel like you're in a real war.

But the shooting is something we've seen a thousand times before. How often have you shot through a wave of enemies as you progress through a level? Yes, the guns feel lifelike, but we've seen all of these before; Assault Rifle, Pistol, Shotgun, Sniper Rifle, we've all used these in hundreds of games before and it's a little tiring to be honest.

The plot of Killzone 2 starts off well, but we find it is difficult to relate to some of these characters and the story seems to progress very little over the course of the game. The key story moments, however, are presented in jaw-dropping fashion and certain set pieces really stand out from a cinematic point of view.

Online is solid, with some minor innovations, but you'll be left feeling that you've played this before, and to a certain extent, you have. The aiming is a little clunky, and there are some issues with balancing and spawn camping, but overall the experience is solid - just don't expect to be blown away.

Overall, Killzone 2 manages to only partially achieve what it set out to do; it's a solid shooter, with great graphics, and has its moments, but we've seen this a thousand times before and a lack of innovation means it fails to set itself apart from the pack as the definitive shooter to own.

7/10"

Did not play it long enough, when i first logged onto it i was too a bit "Really? is this it?"

But once i had got into it, unlocked more classes and explored the maps and now everytime i'm on it i really cannot believe how good it is.

When you look around, some of the textures are incredibly detailed and the lighting and particle effects are some of the best in the whole industry, the gameplay is incredibly addictive once you start ranking up and learning how to play it properly with teamwork using the squad system.

"Being another FPS" didn't stop Halo 3 from scoring well. Same goes for Call of Duty 4.

I find it rather amusing that on the 1up show, they complain about the unique feel of the game. How it has weight, you need to be more tactical and smart about your movements, how you can't just spray and pray like in most arcade oriented FPS games like Halo and R2.

But somehow, that unique feel also = generic? Ummm, whut?

When was it a crime to just be a damn fun game? To be a good expression of the genre? Why does everything have to be some goddamn revelation? Both reviewers and fans are hyping this game up to a level that it will never achieve, thus reviewers are going to slam it for not being something that THEY "expected" it to be. Disappointing, because a game should be scored on its own merits, not based on the hype, and that goes for all titles.

Please people.Let the full game come out and then we can see.Personally I can't see what the big deal is about Killzone 2 but I prefer the opinions of people who have played the full game not just a 6 month old beta

wait, "lackluster textures" wait a minute... lets here that again "lackluster textures!"

what a f*ckwit, he's blind and stupid, no console game on the market can compare to the graphical prowess of KZ2

I think I'll take the word of more credible reviewers than this dudes. A lot of respected reviewers have been highly impressed by KZ2. Maybe this dude needs glasses.

As a owner of both systems, I feel that the PS3 gets the shaft sometimes from people. Why is that every PS3 exclusive has to the God of all games, has to be completely unique, and have the absolute best graphics ever. I mean give me a break. Did Call of Duty have guns in it that we haven't seen before. What about countless other shooters out there? I mean I can't be the only person who feels this way. I'm not trying to start a flamewar or anything but it seems 360 titles aren't put on such a high pedestal. What do you guys think????

Im starting to think im playing a totally different game cuz the killzone im playing is absolutely amazing on all fronts. Whatever, I know for a fact IGN will give it the score it deserves.

Basically every gamer who's in the KZ2 beta can tell you how great it is. Just like I wrote in my blog, come Feb. 2009.....we will see who's biased against Sony and who's not.

pop LOL. I can't stand these R2 fans vs KZ2 fans. Civil war at its finest.

I haven't played the beta nor seen it in action, but after Killzone 1, which was trash in my humble opinion, I just haven't been very interested in Killzone 2. That first trailer was awesome, but when the game hits retail and delivers on it, then I'll be impressed...or not.

ho ho ho

no hits for you, thegamereviews.com.

Good luck with those texture comments friend:

http://i36.tinypic.com/jkvp...

Oh, and when the gun goes off, shadows are cast on those stones below... Good luck with that in other games. ;) Have fun bunny hopping in halo 3 and rolling in Gears 2 with 100 lbs of equipment like there isn't any on. This game has the movement down perfect. This isn't a game with Nerf physics and guns with no recoil. LOL

is a 50/50, a chance that people will hate. but improving on other fps idea
and making it 2 0r 3 times better is a safe bet...and will sale the game...

Debris blocking out the light in realtime on multiplayer need i say anymore.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

The lighting and graphics are insane for a console to say your disappointed is hilarious.

Being the author of the article in question, I must at once say that I amused by the sheer level of outrage this seems to have inspired in so many of you.

So let me clarify a few things.

Those amongst you who say I am simply insulting Killzone 2 because I hate the PS3 are being foolish. You know NOTHING about me. I only own two consoles at the moment, the Wii and the PS3 and I play my PS3 about ten times more than my Wii. It is an incredible console in my experience.

Those amongst you saying I went into the preview with the intention of hating Killzone 2 are being foolish. I have been looking forward to this game for years and actually named it my number one FPS game to watch in a recent editorial I wrote for another website. Suffice it to say, the fact that I was disappointed was a bit of a let down for me.

Those amongst you who say I should be immediately discredited for my comments, I simply find you ridiculus. Somehow it is more valid for you all to say "What a moron" but mine, which I spent a good deal of time mulling over, are demonstrating a terrible double standard. I took my time with the game, I mentioned the things I thought merited mention (namely my overall opinion of the Beta) and I attempted to do it in an unbiased and intelligent way. If you disagree with me, fine. That is your right, but you prove yourselves far more ridiculous than myself when the best you can offer me are the same cliched fanboyish responses you'll find on any forum. The person who mentioned the misuse of "too" rather than "to" was correct,that was a silly mistake that both myself and my editor should have caught.

Honestly, the content of a number of your responses suggest that many of you didn't even read the preview, but rather just jumped on the hate bandwagon. I complimented the game on a number of features and actually said that it was a solid, fun game. My main point was that there are a lot of solid, fun games on the market, and that it doesn't do very much to set itself apart from those, which I personally feel is a must in the current industry. For those who have played the Beta and enjoyed it, I apologize if a particular feature you enjoyed wasn't included in my write up. This was my opinion, and I think that "to each his own" should more than suffice as an explanation. As to the graphics comment, if one were to read the preview, they should be quick to not the lengthy paragraph I wrote describing the ways in which Killzone 2 does live up to it's graphical hype. It is a very nice looking game, I simply found the textures on a number of the buildings and structures to be a bit rough. It wasn't a matter of my being blind, or not having a good TV (40" 1080p thank you very much), they just didn't look as nice to me as they should have when compared to recent games.

It doesn't surprise me that the state of gaming journalism has reached such a low point considering the responses it receives. The last few years have seen a slew of overhyped games receiving reviews they didn't deserve because more than a few journalists were too caught up in what the game was supposed to be rather than it actually was. I called this as I saw it. Killzone 2 is going to a good, fun game. But based on the merits of its multiplayer alone, I wouldn't buy it. If that bothers you so much, then maybe you should find something else to build your ego on besides what scores your console's exclusives get.

Shows what a non fandroid person thinks of KZ2. He is a reviewer and comes across games from all platforms unlike the SDF which live and die for sony's ps3 only. They refuse to acknowledge success of any other platform or game and see that every flop game of ps3 as a console seller.

Take of the sony fan glasses and smell the coffee, 2 years down the road and you are still spinning around to kyle minogue.

I predict KZ2 will be the Lair of early 2009.

Sony really does need another mainline shooter franchise. They pretty much gave up after the PS3 generation, and I'm really surprised they haven't tried at another high-profile, singleplayer-centric shooter; even if it weren't Killzone or Resistance.

I miss Killzone while I can see why they still do Horizon has some really good things but I do think that Horizon is overrated imo.

Or how about studios focus on projects that they feel passionate about, and not be forced to make something they have little interest in. It shows in the final product.

It’s still got potential for the modern era. The DNA is all there. The install base is there. The interest is there. The time is now.

Killzone 2 and 3 were farkin brilliant and way better than halo

Too bad they've abandoned em smh, then theres sony barely even acknowledging what us fans want. Every time they sale a certain high amount it get like that with them smh

Because Killzone games are awesome, that's the reason.

New ip after 3'rd horizon please 🙏

Give it to Bungie. The Helghast are awesome enemies and Bungie could make something really cool

not enough interest to keep it alive

I’m beating a dead horse here… but Resisitance FOM gun lay out was so fun, multiplayer was one of my top favorite experiences. Insomniac nailed it and I would love a remaster and maybe a redo with Reisistance 2. They listens to players who were wanting a Halo killer and it kind of lost its character from the first.

Warhawk, if they had just remade the first one not Starhawk which offered nice things like the build and battle.. but Warhawk was the best arcade shooter I ever played. Back when you didn’t have battle passes and you actually had to get certain amount of kills or ribbons to unlock different paint skins on the Warhawks and armor for your player.. Look at the success of Helldivers 2, it’s a fun game and it reminds me of Warhawk in a way. I’ve been wanting a remake or sequel since the beginning of the ps4 gen.. it’s hurts to have hope nowadays. Even with the demise of the studios Sony has a steady fan base.

Killzone game after Killzone 2 play style would be nice

Motorstorm would be epic with the visual upgrade, maybe this game would be a harder sell with the genre being not as popular nowadays..

Resistance franchise, Motorstorm and Dirt 2 which was fun as heck. Add Dead Space 2 as well.

I quickly looked and only saw the words PS5 Remaster and a picture of Fall of Mans logo

Ahhhh shit, well maybe one day

Resistance 1-3 remastered with online

Kill zone 1-3 remastered with online

God of war PS3 games and PSP games collection

Infamous 1-2 with all dlc please we need this. It’s such an underrated franchise and so much potential. In this age of super hero media craze Sony should utilize infamous

White knight chronicles 1-2

Warhawk and starhawk

Motorstorm series

MGS4

Easy money would be to remake Resistance and Killzone series, rather than just a remaster. And PS5 desperately needs some couch co-op shooters so this would scratch that itch.

Infamous 1+2 and KZ 2+3

Deus Ex Human Revolution

GTA IV needs one.
Still stuck on PS3 and 360.

PS3 ended up been a beast of a console, slow out of the gate, picked up steam, smashed through the finish line. The 1st PS3 slim is still one of my favourite consoles. So solid, great games, by the time GTA5 and the last of us had come out it was a clear winner for me

Nice to see that they included Pupetteer in this list.

"PS3 may not have been the strongest generation"

Meanwhile...just looking at exclusives alone and not even third party titles

Uncharted was born
Demon's Souls was born
Metal Gear Solid 4
God of War 3
The Last of Us was born
Little Big Planet was born
Warhawk
Killzone 2 and 3
Infamous was born
Resistance was born
Motorstorm was born
Gran Turismo
Heavy Rain
Journey
Shadow of the Colossus returned paving the way for the remake in the PS4 generation
PS Plus was born

Sorry bud, but the PS3 generation was amazing and featured the greatest console comeback in history.

That said, I'd love it if Warhawk returned or Metal Gear Solid 4. It needs to not be shackled to the PS3 generation anymore. A Killzone 2 remake would be insane with modern graphics and that art direction.

I really miss this gen of gaming. It felt like the last truly "great" era for videogames before the modern approach really took hold.

The PS3 was such a glorious console. The UI, the games, the free online...just incredible.

Add Mag to that list.

I would pay good money for a Warhawk remake. Socom too. The last Socom game just didn’t do it justice. Folklore could use a remaster or remake as well.
Several other titles I would like to remade with the amount of visual fidelity the current gen has over the past consoles it could help articulate the games that we’ve loved growing up. I would love even some ps2 titles to remade.. Dark Cloud from ps2, Legacy of Kain series but don’t know what will come of it sense it was bought by Embracer group and all there layoffs.

This strategy is exactly what helped ruin Xbox. Sony more than Microsoft know when to let a franchise go and that is important to keep things fresh. The old games are there if you want to play them.

Resistance series and Killzone 2 & 3 remasters/remakes. Make it happen. They will print money.

FF13 is top of this list for me. No matter your opinion on it, it being the only numbered offline FF out of all 16 not to be on new consoles is odd. GTA IV would be great too

The only reason my PS3 is still connected is because of the Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm games that I still love to play. I am for remaking or remastering them.

Would absolutely love a remastered collection of the resistance games

Resistance 1-3 and Killzone 1-3 too. Folklore and 3 Dot Heroes are underrated gems.

Why remaster games that ps5 players can't access when you can remaster a 4 year old game like tlou2 that was already patched with ps5 improvements

Would love a remake of the first Resistance game and also Tools of Destruction.

A gem of a gen, imo! So much IP to pluck.

Infamous 1&2 will sadly always be ignored by Sony, not even a ps4 remaster the whole gen, smh but uncharted, horizon, even days gone had next gen upgrades sheesh 🤦🏽 mane even tho Sony is still doing pretty good in the console business they are a lil big headed lol, I never played the resistance series but it would of been dope to see those games updated as well, we fans get lil surprises here n there but things we really are into having and being vocal about gets passed over like a mf 🤣😩

Remasters are a waste of time and developer resources. Real Devs make new games.

God I would live a Killzone or Resistance collection. Really hoping for a new one in either franchise down the line, loved both series.

I’d say new sequels instead.

Got be resistance /prototype as well

How much prefer the killzone universe to that of Horizon's.

Killzone again pls 🥺

Gratz Guerilla, amazing Studio and engine, love Decima!

I was never a huge fan of Killzone, but thoroughly enjoy Horizon. Guerrilla are superb developer and easily up there with the best of the best.

Need a killzone 2 remake from the ground up.

One of the most creative studios out. I hope they keep it up.

Great studio, loved the Killzone series, I wish they would do a remake of the first three games. Horizon is a real step up and truly put Guerrilla Games on the map.

Too bad I never got a chance to play Shellshock: Nam’67 would have loved to try that game out back in the days to see what were their beginnings.

Bring back killzone (maybe in 3rd person perspective)

It would fantastic to see what they could do in Killzone after the lessons learned through Horizon.

Or heck, give us even a short linear FPS from the people who designed Cauldron THETA in the Burning Shores expansion. Even just flying into it (after gliding around and finding its opening amongst the lava and Sunwings perched around it, with other bigger machines just along the path toward it) was an incredible experience.

Great work until now. Keep on this path

Hope they get the opportunity to create a new IP this gen as well.

Forbidden West is awesome, It’s pretty damn big compared to Zero Dawn and it takes a little while to get your skills up and get the equipment you need to fully explore the game (not going to spoil it) but once you do those things and start fighting the big ass machines it really is amazing. Some cool side quests to where you hold the fate of peoples lives by your choice and the cauldrons look amazing. Lots of skills , combos, special moves and add ons for your weapons so you can approach fights many ways. Looking forward to the name game but I wonder how/if Silas will be a part of it or not ? Sad he’s gone.

Killzone games weren’t the best shooters but damn did they look purty!!!!

Killzone 2 remade with the multiplayer

20 years of mid-tier games and they are trending down.

I'm hyped for whenever Horizon 3 releases but Killzone 1 needs a remake BAD and 2 & 3 need remasters. Criminal those games are stuck on PS3.

Hold up

Horizon: Zero Dawn sold 24.3 million
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sold 29.81 million

With the way journalists have been consistently saying BotW overshadowed Horizon you’d think the gap between an entry in a new IP and a longrunning one would be bigger Even if you want to include however much the Wii U version of BotW did, both series still did impressive numbers

I never want to hear that Horizon is an overlooked franchise ever again

i really loved the atmosphere and idea of killzone. i hope they revisit it at some point because it always had so much potential.

Bring Back Killzone please or at least a KZ2 remake with MP.