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Backward compatibility versus Smart Delivery: What’s the difference?

One of the best features of Xbox Series X is both its backward compatibility and the new Smart Delivery system. The words are not interchangeable, though. They are similar in that they let you play games across generations, but they are distinct.

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timotim2201d ago

BC is being able to play past generation games on next-generation platforms. In the past its simply been the same exact games played on the newer platform, thus bring your games forward. Smart Delivery is a mixture of things including being able to play BC titles, but with modern enhancements added to those games that the previous platform couldn't do. It also means forward AND backwards compatibility...say you buy Halo Infinite on SX #DayOne and after you play it for a couple hours, your buddy calls up and wants you to bring it over to his house so he can check it out. Well you get to your friends house but he only has an Xbox One X...thats same game that you were just playing on your SX also runs on your friends X! The game will adjust itself and only download what the X can handle when you get back home on your SX, the game adjust itself back to 4K/60FPS with all the bell and whistles...all off that one disc. It means cross-buy, it means cross-save, it means cross-play. SD is playing all your games the best way they can be played on the best platform that plays them, while BC is just playing old games on the new platform.

And ill say this...what Smart Delivery is NOT is withholding DLC expansions from your massive install base to pad the launch of your new platform coming. Thats the exact opposite of Smart Delivery...its Dumbass Delivery...Anti-consumer Delivery...FU Delivery...we need a IP to sell our new console delivery.

ApocalypseShadow2201d ago (Edited 2201d ago )

Smart Delivery is just a fancy name for everything Sony was doing before, made into a single feature that still won't be supported by all developers.

BC. Yup. Sony pioneered that. PS3 was the only hiccup. And we all know why. Xbox BC is *popular game* BC. Not full BC. Don't know why this isn't spoken about. Popular games only is not full BC.

Cross Buy, Cross Save and Cross Play? Yup. Sony. pioneered that across game systems of portable home console and PC. Buy a game on one system, play it on another if it's offered.

And *Smart Delivery*? Sounds like a patent Sony applied for back in 2016 and confirmed in 2018.
https://www.google.com/amp/...
Taking legacy software and sprucing it up on the new console. Smart Delivery was announced only recently. If I buy a game on PS4, It gets spruced up if I have PS4 Pro. Which is the same for PS5. I didn't have to buy the Pro or PS5 version. The files are automatic and downloaded. If I had a Pro, the same game save would be the same as my base PS4 that I could go back to with the same online play.

As for "DLC Expansions" nonsense and "anti delivery" nonsense, Spider-Man Miles Morales is a stand alone game. I'd understand if it's a 2-3 hour game. But we don't know the length or the content to be upset about. And, Sony is well within their right to try to get gamers interested in their next console with it. Could they have offered it on PS4? Sure if it's the same game and just downgrade it. But we don't know that either. Might be new additions created by the SSD that are not possible on PS4. Just have to wait and see.

Want to know what's anti consumer though? Paying for online after already paying for Game Pass. PS Now doesn't require PS Plus. Paying for online for F2P games. FREE GAMES. Microsoft days no online for you without paying up. Being worth a trillion dollars but making less quality games than their competitors. Now THAT'S "Anti Consumer."

Is Smart Delivery the new Cross Game Chat being pushed? Nice feature. But not that big a deal.

timotim2201d ago

"Smart Delivery is just a fancy name for everything Sony was doing before"

So when you put your PS3 Last of Us disc into your PS4, it automatically installed all the proper upgrades on the PS4 for FREE???

"BC. Yup. Sony pioneered that. PS3 was the only hiccup."

Hiccup? It was outright REMOVED from the console, never to make a return because they needed to get the price down and the PS2 parts in the PS3 were considered too expensive. Instead of Sony simply eating the cost and making it up in other ways they removed a huge feature from their console. Also...those games were BC in its simplest form...just like I already described. Older games moving forward. Nothing about them were made modern like Smart Delivery brings.

"And *Smart Delivery*? Sounds like a patent Sony applied for back in 2016 and confirmed in 2018."

Dont care what it sounds like my friend...I care about what the implementation is and Sony does nothing like it in practice.

"As for "DLC Expansions" nonsense and "anti delivery" nonsense, Spider-Man Miles Morales is a stand alone game."
Is it a full on sequel to the first game...NO! Is it using the same city layout from the first game...YES! Does that sound a lot like DLC expansion...YES! Sure they are well within their right to do so, but that doesnt mean they didnt just give a big FU to all the gamers who supported the first one on PS4! They were suppose to have a 10 year support life to PS4, yet here they are dropping support to pad the launch of the PS5. FU Delivery! Nice way to loyal to your fanbase.

"Want to know what's anti consumer though? Paying for online after already paying for Game Pass."

Sony charges you to play online just like Microsoft. Sure PS Now doesnt charge you, but neither does Game Pass Ultimate...I haven't bought Gold in about a year and play online all the time...both simply factor that into the price of their service.

"Is Smart Delivery the new Cross Game Chat being pushed? Nice feature. But not that big a deal."

Of course it isn't to you...but when Sony charges you for upgrades, it is a big deal. When I get free HDR with higher NATIVE resolution and frames and features for free on my games it will be a big deal.

Darkborn2201d ago (Edited 2201d ago )

@timotim enjoy your games looking inferior on Xbox while having the more powerful console. Even if Xbox went all out and tried to out do Sony, they can't. Their studios just aren't near sonys level at all. Plus they want to develop games for all Xbox consoles to include the OG Xbox one. That's gonna severely make those games look like crap. To me, that's anti consumer. If I buy a new box, it better look better and play better. By the time Xbox tries cranking the graphics up after 2 full years of garbage, their gonna be coming out with mid gen upgrades.

timotim2201d ago

@Darkroom

Brother...from what Sony showed at their recent PS5 event...they aren't doing anything with this new console that they haven't already done with the previous ones. They continue to sacrifice performance for better visuals...most of their AAA games were running at 30FPS. I'm not excited by that anymore...thats so "last gen" to me. If you are OK with next-gen being only about how pretty they can make games look, then I'm very happy for you and you should enjoy your PS5...but I want more than that next-gen. I'm more interested in the way games FEEL and perform thats where real next gen is going to be.

And since you have yet to see gameplay for XGS main titles yet, its no real way you can make that statement with any degree of confidence. July will provide that first look for us. Come back and talk then.

cooperdnizzle2201d ago

@Timotim. Xbox already showed games running at 30fps on their next gen console. We will see in July, and than next July and next July. Xbox only fans have been saying that for years. I hope enjoy your old outdated games running at 60fps. To each their own. I have an Xbox one x that I’ll use for BC. Not going to buy a whole new console for that. Book mark this comment. You are not going to get cutting edge games running at 60 FPS with M$. Crack down, sea of thieves, state of decay, all of these game’s had problems running on Xbox one x. Same thing will happen with the new console. Old games running well yep! New ones running well? Nope

crazyCoconuts2201d ago

A lot to unpack here, but @timotim, you know darn well Game Pass Ultimate is the premium service, includes Gold and isn't what Apocalypse was talking about. I mean, that's $15/month. It's a bundle

Spurg2201d ago

Except for the part where nearly all of the games that were cross-buy and cross saves were tied to ps vita and ps4 not ps3 to ps4.
It is nowhere tied to how Xbox's Smart delivery titles are with big hitters like Cyberpunk, assassin's creed, and Yakuza.

ApocalypseShadow2201d ago (Edited 2201d ago )

Game pass ultimate has XBL built in. It's $14.99. That's game($10 a month) pass +XBL($5) a month. All they did was hide it in the cost.

Have you seen the full game of Miles Morales? No. That means you are talking out your butt. You don't even know what's included or how the game runs.

Oh yeah. Sony's dropping support for PS4. I see 2 games coming out this year that goes against what you're saying. What big games does Xbox one have? Nothing big. But hey. One trillion dollars right?

Sony only charges for Plus. But gives back hundreds of dollars of games to play while you're subbed. What is Microsoft giving back to F2P gamers? Nothing. It's anti consumer to charge F2P gamers. Simple as that.

HDR was free on PS4 and PS4 Pro. No cost. Will be free on PS5. OG Xbox One, you had to have a system above the original to have it. More cost "my friend." Same as the OG Xbox 360 didn't have HDMI. Sony's was supported and free on both PS3 systems. More cost.

Smart delivery-nothing new
BC-nothing new

But will be played up like cross game chat and cross play.

rainslacker2200d ago

So...long explanation short(yeah I know not like me),

Smart delivery is an update app, and facilitates library management for games that support it.

porkChop2200d ago (Edited 2200d ago )

@Apocalypse

Dude, where do you get your info? Like do you just assume things?

"BC. Yup. Sony pioneered that."

Sony did *not* pioneer backwards compatibility. That existed in the 80's, before Sony even entered the market. Atari pioneered it with the Atari 7800, the first console to feature built-in BC. To pioneer something means you're the first to do it.

"Cross Buy, Cross Save and Cross Play? Yup. Sony. pioneered that across game systems of portable home console and PC."

Again, not true.

Square Enix pioneered cross play. Final Fantasy XI was the first game with cross play, connecting PC, PS2, and Xbox 360 players together.

Valve introduced cross buy two years before Sony, when they released Steam for Mac in 2010. All compatible games were automatically available on both platforms, requiring no additional purchases.

Kojima introduced transfarring with Peace Walker HD before Sony had cross save.

DerfDerf2200d ago

@Darkborn Gears 5 could easily be called the best looking game of the generation.

4Sh0w2200d ago (Edited 2200d ago )

timotim,
You absolutely nailed it...great explanation!

Shadow he didnt say sony but we all knew and if it was Microsoft on the other side of this situation I 100% guarantee the ps community would have the pitchforks out for Microsofts head....but of course with Sony is all roses. This should be applauded; why do y'all get so mad when xbox does something great?

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TheGamez1002201d ago (Edited 2201d ago )

BC is just playing old gen games.
Smart delivery is basically just crossbuy with current gen and next gen at no extra cost, the next gen version having enhancements with the new hardware and you keep your save. Not very complicated lol.

NeoGamer2322201d ago (Edited 2201d ago )

I do not think Smart Delivery is just cross-buy.

Microsoft has said that switching interchangeably between versions is an inherent part of Smart Delivery. So, I can play chapter one of a game on an old gen console then play chapter two on a next gen console and in each case my progress is carried between the different versions with one achievement list. My understanding (it has been a while since I have bought a cross-buy game on my PS4 - I think I bought Fl0wer with cross-buy) is that cross buy just delivers the two versions of the game and they are completely separate from each other with their own trophies and progression.

Also, with cross-buy the game doesn't need any redevelopment. It could be just a straight port with no improvements graphically at all. Whereas with Smart Delivery I think there is a requirement to support higher framerates and 4K on the newer console (I am just speculating there - MS has not said what the Smart Delivery requirements are there that I know of).

JEECE2201d ago

Some games had cross save as well, so you could transfer your progress across platforms. Basically it seems like smart delivery is a combination of cross buy and cross save, and probably with fewer steps.

NeoGamer2322201d ago

@JEECE
The difference is that MS is mandating certain things to get to say your game is Smart Delivery. Sony just has cross-buy with no requirements.

Which games have cross-save with cross-buy anyhow? I should look at the cross-buy stuff, haven't in a while, because it seems it was just smaller games with the feature.

crazyCoconuts2201d ago

Sony called your first paragraph "cross save" with their PS3 / Vita / PS4 titles. Many times cross buy would also come with cross save, but it would be up to the developers. And cross buy would certainly have improvements - like the PS4 version wouldn't have PS3 or Vita assets...

tontontam02200d ago (Edited 2200d ago )

So it's just like my setup right now, I play on my base ps4 when someone is using the ps4 pro with cloud save I can play between the two systems whenever I want. achievements are carried over because it is part of your online account.

I don't know what you fanboys are trying to defend but this smart delivery is just as simple as that with a fancy name. A smart name indeed for people who cannot understand that this is just a simple tech.

NeoGamer2322200d ago

@crazyCocunuts
I know what cross-save is and you are correct. But, what MS is doing here is mandating cross-save for Smart Delivery. Sony does not mandate it. I have bought several cross-buy games in the past and had to restart progression in each version.

@tontontam0
Comparing cross-save on PS4 and PS4 Pro with cross-save across a generational change is not the same thing. PS4 to PS4 Pro was a mid-generation upgrade. No real change in the game code, they just changed the game framerates and resolutions.

NotoriousWhiz2200d ago

Yes, smart delivery is more and better than cross buy. But I don't think Microsoft is forcing smart delivery on anyone, it's up to developers to choose to enable smart delivery on their games. Microsoft will likely include it on all of their first party games (for the near future at least). As for third party games, we'll have to wait and see.

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1Victor2201d ago

“Smart delivery “ Isn’t new it was done by Sony on the PS2 where MOST ALL PS GAME WAS AUTO ENHANCED ON PS2
Microsoft just took old ideas join them together and put glitter on it call it brand new features and all the kids too young to know better or too lazy to look it up are believing it at face value

rainslacker2200d ago (Edited 2200d ago )

Smart Delivery can also be used to update games in the BC program with patches if they're available. Kind of like how this gen the PS4P or X1X patch would be installed if you put in an older game before those systems were around, but the dev was cool enough to update the game with improvements.

Otherwise, it does facilitate cross buy, and cross save apparently.

There is nothing particularly new or fancy about what it's doing, but it is an all encompassing service from MS of stuff that has been done before, some of that stuff before by MS, some by others.

Marketing terms are used to make something seem new, when they really aren't. In this case though, Smart Delivery is a good feature.

NotoriousWhiz2200d ago

Sometimes combining everything into one neat package is more than just "marketing". See the Switch, it doesn't do anything revolutionary if you look at its features individually. However, if you put them all together, you have something that is very appealing to a lot of people.

rainslacker2199d ago

Yeah, they make it more appealing by putting them all together, and putting a new marketing term to it. That is what I consider to be marketing.

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Battlestar232201d ago (Edited 2201d ago )

Is Smart Delivery retrospective? I know the XSX has BC but I'm talking about enchantments to games on the XSX. All the Xbox games that i have like Ryse and Crackdown 3 if i pop the disc in the XSX will i get the XSX versions for free? And will all the gamers who bought all their multi-plats from the Xbox One launch on-words til the XSX launch also get free XSX versions free too?

Z23ash2201d ago

You will get an XSX version of a Xbox one game IF they actually make a XSX version. If they don’t make a next gen version/upgrade you can play the Xbox one version as BC.

It’s a great idea but will probably only be relevant for the first year or two of the console (unless they also keep it for the next Xbox after XSX etc)

MrPsycho19702201d ago (Edited 2201d ago )

This is incorrect. All old Xbox games will be upgraded regardless of if they make a new version. The stipulation is you will have to have the game on one of the new memory cards. All Microsoft games get big upgrades. Any Microsoft game that was 30 fps will be 60 fps and any 60 fps game will become 120 fps. Smart delivery is if you buy a game for the one x and upgrade to the series x, your game will automatically upgrade to the series x version free of charge. Sony is NOT doing this. If you buy a ps4 version of a game and upgrade later to the ps5, you will have to buy the ps5 version. Both companies offer great things with their respective consoles. Why does everybody have to be a dick about what console they like. I am an avid xbox fan and will have the series x day one, but I very much want to play the ps5. It looks amazing and should produce some of the best games of this gen. I think microsoft want to be competitive this gen. We shall see in July when they show the 1st party stuff. Relax, play what you like and enjoy being a gamer.

xX-oldboy-Xx2201d ago

2 features PC does without making a fuss nor coining a marketing term.

ms is playing you all like a fiddle. Seems to be working too.

RamRod882201d ago

You mean like how Sony was making a big deal out of cross-play when it was first announced? From what I've seen around, most ps4 owners wished Sony was offering something similar, but then we have Sony fantastics like yourself that can't even give credit where credits due.

xX-oldboy-Xx2201d ago

Sony didn't make any song and dance about crossplay - maybe telling people that it is now available, but not a big deal about it.

It was more to do with the unjust lynching by the media - when Sony were advocates for crossplay long before ms even mentioned it.

Short memory or just not educated - I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you simply forgot those details.

RamRod882201d ago

Oh yes, continue to downplay it just like most things that don't fit your agenda. Let's also not forget Cross-buy that Sony fans love bring up in every article about smart delivery

rainslacker2200d ago

Sony pushed cross play for the games that supported it, which was mostly used to prop up the Vita. The PS3/PS4 cross buy games didn't have much, if any major marketing around it, although there are quite a few titles titles that use it...mostly indie, and a few from Sony itself.

JEECE2201d ago

PC doesn't have generations, so I fail to see how this argument is even relevant.

xX-oldboy-Xx2201d ago

And now what do we have ms saying "We don't believe in generations" - like I said they're playing you all and you can't even see it.

JEECE2201d ago

@xX-oldboy-Xx

I love that you keep thinking I'm an Xbox fan because I don't treat MS news as unfairly as I possibly could.

BS marketing term aside, I fail to see how it's a problem that they have essentially come up with their own version of Cross Buy/Cross Save. I felt like that was a pretty good system for games that appeared on PS3, PS4, and Vita.

Spurg2201d ago

????
PC is an open platform.
Xbox within the consoles echo system is offering upgrades and a one-time purchase and you own it on Xbox and PC.
Can I play FF7 remake on PS5 with upgraded visuals?

xX-oldboy-Xx2201d ago

That's not the direction Lord Phil wants to go - toe the company line young soldier.

I dont know yet, no word from Square Enix - it is their choice after all.

xX-oldboy-Xx2201d ago

JEECE - It isn't a problem, but it seems the small things get promoted to high hell and negatives fail to be highlighted.

By the media or xbox owners - it's baffling.

Sorry if I labelled you incorrectly - I won't do it again.

rainslacker2200d ago (Edited 2200d ago )

I'm not really sure what would be negative about Smart Delivery. And you know I'm a pretty big Sony fan.

It's just a bunch of features that do exist, that MS either already does, or adopting, and they wrapped them all together in a singular marketing term.

Those features are generally either of marginal importance, or really good.

I do agree that the small things are being overblown with Smart Delivery, and I'll add that others that already do it are often neglected in the conversation.

xX-oldboy-Xx2200d ago

rain - There is absolutely nothing negative about 'smart delivery' nor BC.

But when these things are used to hide the fact that ms has spent nearly 10yrs providing sub-par (my opinion) games and lack of new ips.

The negatives I was maiy alluding to are:
- locking VOD services behind a paywall.

- Next to no original content for their consumer base.

All that is given a free pass while people shout BC, SMART DELIVERY.

I'm just the yin to the yang - I really don't care and mostly sling mud for a bit of fun.

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Positivelypositive 2201d ago

I was really hoping for an announcement from SONY that the ps5 would run every generation backwards compatible. The software emulation is pretty lame. It is good to see that there is at least some BC out there. It really does need to be a standard feature.

TLDR: I am really impressed with the backwards compatibility on PC.

xX-oldboy-Xx2201d ago

There's still time, Sony hasn't even had an event showcasing PS5 and all its features.

The event just passed was focused on games.

When they reveal the price we should see a full breakdown of features and their plans for PS5.

Spurg2201d ago

Sony fans don't advocate for it so Sony won't even attempt to even consider it.
I can imagine they are going to remaster several games.

ApocalypseShadow2201d ago

No. We don't big up "FEATURES" to be more than they are like Xbox fans do. We big up "GAMES" as being more important. Specifically, new games and new IPs along with sequels if the games were great.

When Xbox has no games worth mentioning like this year, they play up features. Cross play, BC, Cross game chat, smart delivery, etc, all come up when there's no games worth mentioning. Sony has TLofU2, Ghost of Tsushima, Iron Man, Vader, Immortal, the Squadrons game fully playable in VR, Pistol Whip, etc. So what do we get for Xbox articles?

More features...yay...lol

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai59d ago (Edited 59d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio58d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing58d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9258d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit58d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing58d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9258d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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