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How Sony’s PS5 Compatibility Differs with Xbox Series X

IGN: This week we’re talking about cross compatibility between current and next-gen consoles -- not just backwards compatibility, but forwards compatibility.

lifeisgamesok2227d ago

Backwards compatibility is nice but I buy new consoles to mostly play new games

I'm looking forward not behind

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slavish02227d ago

u sound so brainwashed man, you dont have to choice, why not both😖

lifeisgamesok2227d ago (Edited 2227d ago )

I'm talking from my personal experience. I've started 5-6 games through BC in the past and I lose any interest on completing the playthrough

MIDGETonSTILTS172226d ago

Neither is offering “both” as much as the other.... hence the discussion

King_Noctis2227d ago (Edited 2227d ago )

I’d rather have the option to use BC rather than having none at all. BC is important especially during the start of a new gen when there aren’t alot of good games to play.

The Wood2227d ago

The lack of options at the start of the gens are usually sparce, correct but there is no 'none' in what sony are doing or lifeisgames comment. He clearly stated is stance on the matter. Personally it's a great feature to have but it's not the main reason I drop x amount on new hardware. That's like me saying what would you prefer, new games or old games...there is no false dilemma here

jimbost792226d ago

@king
Can I just ask mate, if there's not a lot of good games to play, then why would you you buy a new console? Would it not be better to just wait until there is?

King_Noctis2226d ago

“Can I just ask mate, if there's not a lot of good games to play, then why would you you buy a new console? Would it not be better to just wait until there is?”

I‘m a sucker for new techs tbh. I usually buy a new console as soon as it comes out, even if there are no games that interest me. I did it with the Xbox 360, PS Vita, PS4, and more recently the Switch. Also, the feeling of being “left out” is really there whenever a new console is launched and we haven’t gotten one yet, at least for me anyway.

jimbost792226d ago

Cheers for reply mate. I understand its nice to have it, but I personally am not bothered by it. Id still get a ps5 if it had zero bc. Just knowing what sonys studios will deliver is enough for me. Fuck, I'd even buy one if they only released the Gow sequel.

MIDGETonSTILTS172226d ago

The difference is that the PS5 will absolutely have great brand new games to play at launch.... the XsX will not support any games that my current console can’t handle for TWO FULL YEARS.

Hence, PS5 consumers are not worried about less BC support. They aleadu said they’ll support 4000 games at launch for BC, including most of the 100 most played PS4 games.

Sounds like more than enough PS4 BC for me

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solideagle2227d ago

you are right but what about the huge catalogue of games which we purchased during PS4 cycle but couldn't play. I think BC helps in first or 2 years to thin that backlog.

Z5012226d ago

Huh?
"but what about the huge catalogue of games which we purchased during PS4 cycle"

Play them on your PS4.

MIDGETonSTILTS172226d ago

Unless you only have one TV with only one hdmi input, then you’ll be fine.... just don’t trade in your PS4 for like $50, keep it

Kumakai2227d ago

No reason not to be able to play all games. It’s assumed you’ll play new games. Series x actually makes old games better too.

umair_s512227d ago

Playing past games doesn't mean you are looking behind.

Mr_Writer852226d ago

And we care because?

Everyone buys next gen console for next gen games.

umair_s512226d ago

So, why should I choose between the two?

Mr_Writer852225d ago

@umair_51

I never said you should, I was responding to the first post.

Everybody buys next gen consoles to buy next gen games, some buy it to play next gen games and last gen games.

Nobody buys a next gen console to not play next gen games.

NeoGamer2322226d ago

So what does that have to do with an article comparing the two console features?

Let's put it this way....

If the article was comparing multiplayer feature of PSN and XBL and I said, "I buy consoles for single player games" would that be relevant?

I don't think so.

MIDGETonSTILTS172226d ago

It’s about assessing the value of BC.... most ppl don’t value it as high as Microsoft wants them to. Hence, PS5

MIDGETonSTILTS172226d ago

Trying to sell a $500 console without a single exclusive for 2 full years is anti-consumer. The Xbone was also anti-comsumer, because it never delivered on its promises (just hit the reset button hard with a first-ever mid-gen console upgrade)

RamRod882226d ago

I keep seeing comments like this as if BC takes away new games being developed. It doesn't.

gamer78042226d ago

its great to be able to take games with you, rather than having to have another console hooked up to your reciever/tv. Older games if created with dynamic framerate and resolution can take advantage w/out a patch, or at worse case with a small patch and play previous gen games you might have never played before at a better resolution and framerate. I only see a win/win here.

bouzebbal2226d ago

This..
I would go for a cheaper SKU without backward compatibility if possible.. All I want is n fresh new feel. I remember thinking ps3 was still popular when PS4 hit the shelves, but I stopped playing ps3 from the day I got PS4.
PS3 is still connected, but I never booted it

Artemidorus2226d ago

I said that years ago and many disagreed with my thought process.

They got to get away with backwards features being one of the main features.

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crazyCoconuts2227d ago

I think this video acts as if the certification check box is the only thing Sony is doing to ensure PS4-era games can play on PS5 and the comment about it being "better late than never". This is just one aspect of compatibility - baking the testing into the certification, and you can't do that until you are certain all your devs have access to ps5 dev kits and such. Do we know when MS added XSX to their list? I didn't see anything about that. I can't imagine that was 6 months ago or anything.
The big thing is that both companies have been testing their compatibility modes for games that weren't designed to run on PS5/XSX and adjusting settings to make it work where needed - which one is doing a better job with testing/technology on this will only be known after people get system and find out what games don't run on them. I don't see any radical difference in approach - we'll see if there's a difference in results...

CobraKai2227d ago

Thanks for the summary. I didn’t want to spend the 10 min to watch the vid.

alb18992226d ago

Well the results will be simple, the one who just buy a ps5 will only play games made for ps5 and the one who buys SX will have more choices and have upgrades for the games they own.
Good thing too is that if I can't buy next gen when it arrives, I still can play with my friends.

crazyCoconuts2226d ago

No disrespect but you're wrong on all counts. You really have to read past the headlines and sometimes multiple sources to understand.

alb18992226d ago (Edited 2226d ago )

crazycoconuts
Would you mind to explain your self?

crazyCoconuts2226d ago

Sure. When you buy a PS5 you will be able to play games made for the PS5 AND games that were made for the PS4. You will be able to play with your friends that have a PS4. That's the big picture.

Here's the exception - Sony will have a few games that ONLY run on the PS5, like maybe Horizon Zero Dawn 2 and a few others. MS will have these as well eventually, like a few years down the road. This is normal and happens with every console generation.

jznrpg2226d ago

They clearly said most if not all 4000 PS4 games will be playable on PS5 and you can play with PS4 people with your PS5 . They said they will have the top 100 games working in boost mode by launch and 100’s more in testing currently and the number may change, they are setting the bar lower to not over promise like some other companies do . That was awhile ago too. We still have a lot of info on PS5 coming out .

crazyCoconuts2226d ago

@jz, I agree. For folks that are skimming headlines, it's easier to just say PS4 games will work because in actuality it will probably be hard to find a game that doesn't.

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rainslacker2226d ago

If one doesnt have and x1 or ps4 now, then they probably arent going to care much about if the XSX or ps5, respectively, have BC. XSX does have some BC to the 360 and ogxbox which may be appealing to returning customers, assuming they kept their games, but I think the longer removed a generation is, the less of a concern it becomes.

To me, if it's there, I'll use it where it works. I'm not going to buy a console because of it though. Otherwise, I keep my consoles to play the games I may want to play, and dont get into the anecdotal scenarios posited that may make it so I cant one day, because to date, my retro gaming has had minimal disruption based on random failures and this notion that old gen consoles stop working, or that everyone trades in their console despite having all these games they want to play. I didnt even trade in my ps1 or ps2 when I brought their BC compatible successors. I dont use them now, but I still have them.

Hakuoro2227d ago (Edited 2227d ago )

So i guess this is the strategy have IGN write the same article day after day presented in an extremely biased position
condemning Sony as if the whole console is invalidated by one decision with absolutely zero appreciation for Sony's dedication to having generations and using the console to make next gen games that take full advantage of the advancements in tech. While at the same time calling what is a financial decision of Microsoft forced on themselves by needing to support PC and wanting to support xbone game pass as some sort of consumer friendly action.

So basically as gamers from now on because Microsoft is putting money before games we are tied to whatever the lowest common denominator hardware and the industry never gets pushed forward by the advancements of closed hardware that consoles have pushed every generation since the first consoles.

https://n4g.com/news/234882...
https://n4g.com/news/234968...

Spurg2227d ago

Stop being dramatic. Microsoft isn't putting money over games. BC isn't used by many people so it's hurting MS more than it is helping them. But they have to include it because of the backlash it had during the X1 days. They are being consumer-friendly nothing more, nothing less.

Sony's launch lineup was never all that to begin with.
PS3: Resistance: Fall of Man, Genji (Giant enemy crab game), Ridge Racer 7
PS4: Killzone Shadow Fall, Knack
PS5 launch exclusives is going to be more of a graphical showcase than the usual game with substance. It's only the post-2021 games that will take full advantage of next-gen console capabilities. Anything that comes before that is going to be just a graphical showcase with some standout third party games. Just look at how dry 2014 and how amazing 2015 was.

Hakuoro2227d ago (Edited 2227d ago )

I wasn't talking about BC. I'm talking about Microsoft designing all their games to work on PC and the base Xbone instead of making actual next gen games.

Clearly they aren't confident they can sell enough consoles to support a next gen so they are hedging their bets by supporting the older hardware. And on top of that Microsoft's new studios didn't start their next gen games until 2018 so given 4-5 year development times they know they won't be ready for launch.

It's obviously a financial decision.

Microsoft is choosing to prioritize older hardware over moving on to the new generation. And you're just making excuses and trying to deflect on Sony. And IGN is pretending to present both sides of the situation, all they are doing is regurgitating Microsoft's propaganda over and over.

And let's not pretend IGN is above taking money. This is a company that has had multiple instances of former employees talking about taking money for reviews and people being forces to promote certain opinions.

Sunny_D2227d ago (Edited 2227d ago )

“ Stop being dramatic. Microsoft isn't putting money over games. BC isn't used by many people so it's hurting MS more than it is helping them.”

So if it isn’t used by many people, does that mean fanboys are blowing it up much bigger than it actually is?🤔

Rude-ro2227d ago

Microsoft literally lives and breaths marketing.
Their entire strategy is based off of monopolizing and profit...
Where do you even get your info?!

TekoIie2227d ago

@Hakuoro

"Clearly they aren't confident they can sell enough consoles to support a next gen so they are hedging their bets by supporting the older hardware."

Following this logic Sony is feeling similar with QD games, Death Stranding and Horizon: ZD.

How about instead of being stupid we just admit MS and Sony are seeing how big the PC market is, and know it guarantees them extra sales with an almost non-existant cost to their position in the console market.

Hakuoro2227d ago

TekoIie

Wow you call me stupid and you didn't even understand what I am saying, way to go pal.

I'm talking about "forward compatibility" and Microsoft hamstringing their next gen offerings by making them have to run on older hardware and not taking advantage of the new hardware fully.

"Following this logic Sony is feeling similar with QD games, Death Stranding and Horizon: ZD."

This has NOTHING to do with what I said and is 100% deflection.

Obscure_Observer2227d ago

"So if it isn’t used by many people, does that mean fanboys are blowing it up much bigger than it actually is?"

Ask yourself, would I care to play Bloodborne or The Order again at native 4K/60fps on the PS5?

S2Killinit2227d ago

@Hakuoro
You hit the nail on the head.

P_Bomb2227d ago (Edited 2227d ago )

If anything Resistance was a great launch. https://www.metacritic.com/... . Memories of one-shot walmart! I’d love for a new one.

TripleAAARating2226d ago

@Hakuoro
You could NOT have said it any better!!!
I CANNOT for the life of me understand where all these discussions about compatability and support is coming from, it is CLEAR as day that ALL these headline articles spewing criticism at Sony's strategy heading into next gen is a result of Microsoft's propaganda machine working overtime. It's like EVERYONE forgot the particularly poor track record MS had at supporting their previous console when the following gen released.

Few of us see right through their strategy, all this talk about compatability and support under the guise of a "consumer friendly" approach is just another clear example of MS manipulation to create a narrative that they are the ONLY ones with a "consumer friendly" console releasing next gen. It's quite desperate actually.
Another example is their early showing of the XSX, again creating a narrative with the "12 TFLOPS YO" metric and spewing "we got THE MOST POWERFUL CONSOLE EVA" with every tweet from Phil And Mr Green.. Their desperation particularly showed after the UE5 demo released with Phil and Mr Green responding with tweets basically saying "UE5 will be on our console too!! 😭" ... then again when Jim Ryan said in an interview "we believe in generations" and clearly laid out Sony's strategy heading into next gen would be that of no difference than what we saw before, pushing the industry forward, the potato looking Mr Green responded with that SAME quote and went on to basically say "but we're taking the "consumer friendly" approach" as some sort of diss... pathetic actually.

IGiveHugs2NakedWomen2226d ago (Edited 2226d ago )

It's nice to see you saying PS5 will be all graphics and no substance when 95% of the games Microsoft showed on their presentation will be on PS5 too. Also Sony hasn't even had their presentation yet. You're just setting yourself up for fanboy disappointment, why don't you just wait to see what Sony shows off then comment?

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Spurg2227d ago

"I wasn't talking about BC. I'm talking about Microsoft designing all their games to work on PC and the base Xbone instead of making actual next gen games.
And as I have pointed out we won't get to see next-gen fully at least 2 years into it. Exactly when MS said they would start launching exclusively for Series X and PC.

"Clearly they aren't confident they can sell enough consoles to support a next gen so they are hedging their bets by supporting the older hardware."

They are plenty confident in their console as they are dependant on gamepass (which will skyrocket with Xcloud integration later this year) rather than how many consoles get sold. And with limited supplies this Holiday neither Sony or MS are confident.

"And on top of that Microsoft's new studios didn't start their next gen games until 2018 so given 4-5 year development times they know they won't be ready for launch."
Who made it a mandate that it has to take 4-5 years to make a game. Playground RPG team, Ninja theory, and Rare are more than ready for 2021 release if not 2020. And it's 2022 where we will see next-gen only games from The initiative, Coalition, Obsidian, World edge and Turn 10.

Not even Sony is going to have their studios ready. With only Guerilla and Polyphony will release a game in 2021. And according to your 4-5 years development time, its 2022-2023 where we will fully see the full extent of next-gen from Sony studios. Sony will obviously be using third party for their next-gen only games similar to how MS has The medium and scorn as a next-gen only exclusive.

"It's obviously a financial decision."
MS is looking out for what Xbox gamers want and give gamers choice.
And by your logic, if they release series X only games then people would be forced to buy the console thus selling more consoles. Would that make more financial sane decisions?

"And you're just making excuses and trying to deflect on Sony."
There is nothing to deflect if its a straight-up observation.

"And IGN is pretending to present both sides of the situation, all they are doing is regurgitating Microsoft's propaganda over and over."
MS propaganda?
This is one of the most gamer-friendly things MS is doing and it considered bad propaganda.
IGN who I dislike with a passion is merely stating the obvious and reporting on something obviously gamer-friendly.

"And let's not pretend IGN is above taking money. This is a company that has had multiple instances of former employees talking about taking money for reviews and people being forces to promote certain opinions."

Oh don't worry come weeks time when they give the most woke piece of entertainment, TLOU2 a 10/10 we will talk about how IGN promote "certain opinion".

Hakuoro2227d ago (Edited 2227d ago )

"They are plenty confident in their console as they are dependant on gamepass (which will skyrocket with Xcloud integration later this year) rather than how many consoles get sold. And with limited supplies this

Trying to move their games to streaming instead of the console is proving exactly what I am saying.

"Not even Sony is going to have their studios ready. With only Guerilla and Polyphony will release a game in 2021. And according to your 4-5 years development time, its 2022-2023 where we will fully see the full extent of next-gen from Sony studios. Sony will obviously be using third party for their next-gen only games similar to how MS has The medium and scorn as a next-gen only exclusive."

Sure, I mean we all know your time machine allowed you to go into the future and watch Sony's games reveal and tell us what they're planning. Sony hasn't revealed any new games since 2017, do you honestly think in that time they haven't been working on games... get real.

"This is one of the most gamer-friendly things MS is doing and it considered bad propaganda.
IGN who I dislike with a passion is merely stating the obvious and reporting on something obviously gamer-friendly."

No it's a financial decision. The marketing department is in charge of "consumer friendliness".

"Oh don't worry come weeks time when they give the most woke piece of entertainment, TLOU2 a 10/10 we will talk about how IGN promote "certain opinion".

So what games should be rated by only by YOUR political views?

Don't be salty just because Microsoft hasn't released any GOTY games all generation.

Spurg2227d ago

"Trying to move their games to streaming instead of the console is proving exactly what I am saying."
Streaming games won't be mandatory but instead optional. Console will still be out there similar to how it is with Xcloud now where all the gamepass titles will be streamable.

No, what you're saying is Xbox is holding back next-gen games because they are supporting X1 for 1 more year. And the timeline of games shifting to fully next-gen is 2022. We are still going to have crossgen titles in 2021. It never went full next-gen from the get-go apart from few games that are there to just show off what the machine is capable of.

"Sure, I mean we all know your time machine allowed you to go into the future and watch Sony's games reveal and tell us what they're planning. Sony hasn't revealed any new games since 2017, do you honestly think in that time they haven't been working on games... get real."

It clear that it needs to be broken down further for you to comprehend. There is no time machine needed to predict the schedule of release from studios.

Santa Monica:
God of war 2018
With 4 years dev time: 2022-2023

Bend Studios:
Days Gone 2019
With 3-4yrs dev time: 2022-2023

Insomniac:
Spiderman 2018
With 3-4 years dev time: 2022-2023

Naughty Dog:
Team 1: Last of us 2 2020
With dev time 3-4 years: 2023-2024
Team 2: Uncharted legacy 2017
With dev time: 2021-2022

Suker punch:
Ghost of Tsushima 2020
With 3-4 yrs: 2023-2024

Guerilla games:
Horizon 2017
With dev time 3-4yrs: 2020-2021

Media Molecule
Dreams 2020
With dev time 3-4 yrs: 2023-2024

Polyphony
GT sports 2017
with dev time 3-4yrs: 2020-2021

Pixelopus
Concrete Genie 2019
With dev time 2-3 yrs: 2021-2022

Japan studio
Team Gravity 2017
with dev time of 3-4 yrs: 2020-2021

Team VR
No one care about VR

It clear as day that only 3 Sony First party studios MAY be ready to launch their games on PS5. Guerilla, Polyphony, and Japan studio's Team Gravity. I'm suspecting a heavy reliance on third-party studios to fill the exclusive gap.

"No it's a financial decision. The marketing department is in charge of "consumer friendliness".
You know nothing about the marketing department of Xbox. BC and supporting X1 console like the X1X which still has 1-2 yrs of juice in it will be supported for one additional year. It's a year of transition and it a no brainer that people will start adopting next-gen consoles within that year. There is no destructive strategy here, its a win/win situation for Xbox gamers.

"So what games should be rated by only by YOUR political views?"
Funny you made it about my political view when I haven't even shared them. Go research the state of these so-called journalists and to what extent they will go to demonize gamers. Woke media is a plague and will shove down their agenda down people's throat.

"Don't be salty just because Microsoft hasn't released any GOTY games all generation."
As if a game needs to be given GOTY to be deemed worthy game.

jimbost792226d ago

@spurg
Mate you can't just assume you know what these studios are doing or how many teams they have got or how long they have been working on yet to be revealed games.
What metric are you using to guess their release schedule? Just that every game takes 3/4 years?
A quick look at wiki will show you, just for example, that insomniac have never gone more than 2 years without releasing a game.
So you would pretty much need inside info, or said time machine, to know the release schedule of these teams.

S2Killinit2226d ago

Its IGN. They are extremely pro xbox. Always have been.

thtruth5742226d ago

Ms has infinite money. They are doing a better job as far as bc because Ms is originally software. Hell they are using an emulator. They are focusing on it because they can. Looks around. Everything is windows based. They print money.

jznrpg2226d ago (Edited 2226d ago )

Then why has their entire generation of games been weak? Because they focus on money first . They PR’d people to death convincing them playing 360 game’s was awesome on the most powerful console . Let’s play old games in 4K

ChristopherJack2226d ago

Microsoft designing THEIR games to be functional on at least the Xbox One/PC/XSX for at least 2 after the XSX release. Nothing is stopping anyone else from making 'Next Gen Only' games.

That aside, it's hard to imagine many game design choices that can't be scaled down to function with lesser hardware, in fact, I can't imagine any modern game that couldn't be downscaled to run on a PS3 (look at all the switch Ports such as Witcher 3). GTA V was also a last-gen game that was scaled up & still remains one of the most advanced games of this gen despite being fundamentally identical.

The SSD does leave an interesting question mark though, aside from all the normal downscaling techniques(textures/fps/resolu tion, etc), the developers will also have to consider rendering on top of that which traditionally happens much differently. Additionally, how will it affect PC games too? Will games start shipping with recommended & minimum Storage Transfer rates?

At the end of the day, it still remains a consumer-friendly option by Microsoft, that does not equate with quality though, which will almost undoubtedly favour both Sony's more likely direct approach & their well-earned reputation over the past 2 generations to produce quality games. (I remember people were incredibly grateful that the Last of Us released on PS3 despite the PS4 release so let's not pretend that people don't appreciate such gestures).

jznrpg2226d ago (Edited 2226d ago )

@Tekolie QD isn’t owned by Sony . They don’t own Kojimas company either . So one game so far after how many years it’s been out? 4?

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Silly gameAr2227d ago (Edited 2227d ago )

How many more of these articles are we going to have asking and comparing the same crap, that honestly no one knows a thing about yet? Another instance of the media trying to shove something down our throats, until they lose interest in it like Cross-play and 4K and all the other things that hardly any media outlets talk about anymore.

Hakuoro2227d ago

Another instance of the media trying to shove something down our throats, until they lose interest in it like Cross-play and 4K and all the other things that hardly any media outlets talk about anymore.

Exactly.

ApocalypseShadow2227d ago

Good question. It's a dead horse brought back to life with Skyrim's 'Resurrect' spell. Then, beaten to death again even after it turns into ash. The shear agony this horse is going through. Lol.

Microsoft is trying to keep their players with a feature. Sony lost the feature changing their chipset and are now bringing back the feature they pioneered that Microsoft uses as a crutch.

They can spin this all day. The podcast can bring their biased view about Sony finally adding it back. In the end, Sony showed they not only can sell over 110 million PS4 systems without it AND have new IPs AND have VR.

While Microsoft flounders around trying to find themselves Kinect style.
https://img.memecdn.com/her...
When they have enough money to buy a clue.

All these generations of looking forward to new games. And as usual, Xbox fans blow up a topic beyond what it is. And not once do they mention Nintendo not having it. And then make excuses about inconvenience of systems in an entertainment cabinet and preservation of games when it's really about entitlement. Because their current systems already play the old games 100%. Then blame Sony because they sold their systems to buy the new one.

This is a dead horse. Don't even get me started on why they think new console games should play on old systems. Just ridiculous. Not once did I think "Man!" "Wish my Coleco games played on my Atari 2600." "I shouldn't have to buy a Coleco to play DK Jr and Rocky." "Games should be backwards and forward compatible.".... RIDICULOUS.

jznrpg2226d ago

Props for Colecovision! Loved Time Pilot on it (and arcade).

rainslacker2227d ago

Remember that time that Sony started up cross buy, and the media gushed over it, and compares it to MS more traditional release paradigms?

Yeah, me either. Because it never happened, and half the stuff MS is talking about now Sony has already done and it was forgotten about, or no one cared, or it's still going on and everyone ignores it.

Spurg2227d ago

This whole "Oh they did it before" needs to come to a rest. The question should be are they doing it now.
And this whole cross-buy situation with Sony is mostly with Psvita to Ps4 and rarely Ps3 to Ps4. The games that are going to be cross-gen is way more have way more weight behind them. Cyberpunk 2077's one-time purchase it a great incentive to get it within the Xbox Echo system rather than the competition because there is no upgrade to be found there.

And of course, it will die out over time. 2021 will be a transition year and then after that 2022 will be the year when next-gen will be fully in gear.

rainslacker2226d ago (Edited 2226d ago )

And the answer would be yeah, they're still doing it. But people aren't gushing over Sony doing it, and more often than not, it tends to be ignored that not only has Sony done it before, but that they are still doing it. Hell, even Sony fans don't even care about these things the way Xbox fans seem to care like it's the bestest thing ever, when they go on about how Uncle Phil really loves them.

So, if you want the, "Oh, they did it before" to stop, then perhaps rail against the media, and the fan boys, who do the whole, "Oh, look at all this stuff MS is doing, they're so pro-consumer and innovative" spiel that leads to people going, "Oh, they did it before". This "Oh, they did it before" isn't coming unsolicited, and that's kind of my point. This was never a big deal when Sony did it, but now it's a big deal because MS is doing it? This is just another instance of MS being the innovators, when they are years behind what Sony has already done....just like MS new game streaming service, where PSNow was typically an afterthought.

This whole, "Oh, well it's different because" needs to come to a rest too. It's absolutely no different. It's optional, and available, and since Sony isn't supporting two systems anymore, it's a moot point. But, Sony is making it necessary that PS5 can support PS4 games through compliance, which assumes a compliance level of cross buy for games that go to compliance after a certain date.

Nope. Just more Xbox fans getting upset when people point out the facts, and try to change the facts to suit their own narrative.

"And of course, it will die out over time. 2021 will be a transition year and then after that 2022 will be the year when next-gen will be fully in gear."

Yeah yeah. You know something that really needs to come to rest?

This whole, "Wait until" routine that I've been seeing from Xbox fan boys for half a decade now.

Maybe if you had done it half a decade ago, you wouldn't be waiting another 2 years for the next gen to be fully in gear, and could be playing next gen games this holiday season.

IRetrouk2227d ago (Edited 2227d ago )

Well we know sony has baked the ps4 and pro logic into the ps5s chip, all games should work as is, we also know there is a boost mode for select titles but no more info than that, we dont really know what ms solution is yet in terms of how bc for xbox series x actually works, is it emulation or baked in?, we do know their enhancements are extensive and bc will cover some original xbox and 360 games that the one does. Right know we dont know enough of either to be claiming one over the other🤷‍♂️

The whole cross gen thing is only for the first year or two for ms, I'm still pretty sure they will have some next gen only stuff too though, we dont really know if sony will do any cross gen games or not only that they seem to want to make some next gen only experiences.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai74d ago (Edited 74d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio73d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing73d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9273d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit73d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing73d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9273d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Report: Injustice 3 in Development at NetherRealm Studios

Thanks to the slip-up of an artist working on the title, we now have more evidence that a new Injustice game is in the works.

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Playstation Plus Monthly Games for May: EA Sports FC 26, Wuchang: Fallen Feathers, Nine Sols

All available May 5.

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FPSRUSSIA74d ago

What's Point in commenting your basicly closing down the site.

LiViNgLeGaCY74d ago

I'm surprised it's still the old site. I thought he said starting today?

Eonjay74d ago

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Profchaos74d ago

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP

darthv7274d ago

Insert the Ferris Bueller end scene... "You're still here? It's over.."

LiViNgLeGaCY74d ago

I think the only game here for me is Nine Sols. Was always interested in that game.

TheColbertinator74d ago

Glad I don't buy FIFA games anymore

Rebel_Scum74d ago

Hey now! Thats a great month.

Nacho_Z74d ago

Good month for me, I wanted that particular footy game and thought it might be due. Anyway who cares, shame about the site I'll miss the comment sections. All the best everyone.

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