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G2A Admits to Selling Stolen Games

G2A has admitted to selling stolen games on its marketplace.

Zarock2066d ago

It’s the Developers fault for handing out keys without making sure the payments are legit.

sinspirit2066d ago

It's not the developers fault for people mishandling information and their banks not having security measures.

Zarock2065d ago (Edited 2065d ago )

There is No bank in the world which doesn’t have security measures. You don’t know what your talking about.

sinspirit2065d ago (Edited 2065d ago )

@Zarock

I dont? When a bank allows your card to be used just from the information on the card itself? What about after that? Never heard of Two-Factor Authentication? Sending alerts for card use? Denying card use from an unfamiliar computer, and another country or state. It's the bank and the users fault here. Use critical thinking and don't jump the gun to "you don't know what your talking about" to act like an expert.

porkChop2066d ago

No, it isn't the devs fault. A lot of times these keys are bought with stolen credit cards. It's impossible for devs to know a card has been stolen.

Zarock2065d ago (Edited 2065d ago )

its not impossible to know that a card has been stolen there are systems in place by big publishers that determine if a reseller is a legit entity or not that’s why you don’t see for example cdprojektred complaining about keys being “stolen” and sold on G2A, mostly only small indie companies are complaining which proves that they don’t have those security systems In place.

Sephiroushin2065d ago

Usually those people buy 100+ keys but if they dont put restriction on how many keys someone can buy then this happen, a customer usually buy just one key sometimes there are exception for friends family members etc but its not likely so they could just lock it at 3 keys per customer... Those who want to buy in bulks to resell well they contact them directly...

I still remember some indie developer that lost lot of money because a Brazilian hacker bought 400+ keys with stolen card and they(indie developers which where selling keys for steam on their own store) had to pay credit card company for damages when it was reported it were stolen credit cards... So yes its their fault to some extend

sinspirit2065d ago (Edited 2065d ago )

@Zarock

Indies are complaining because they're income is so much lower and their game discounts on these sites are extremely low. It affects them greatly.

You do know that the developers don't manage the payments, right? Steam and whatever service manages the payment. You aren't doing business 1:1 with the publisher and devs. These key sites are primarily used with services like Steam, XBox, Origin, and PSN. There is no different transaction management from buying a different game on the same service. Where are you getting this info from? Lol.

Also, most stolen credit cards are used to buy Visa gift cards and then are used to purchase things online. You really don't know what you're talking about.

Tell us about these "systems" in place by big publishers. The keys aren't bought disguised as a reseller. I don't understand where you think a reseller would buy the key any differently. Do they just list reseller under the transaction? What are you getting at?

Rebel_Scum2065d ago

Geez louise mate. Blame the rape on the victim why dont ya lol.

Zarock2065d ago (Edited 2065d ago )

If she’s running around naked at night and flashing every man she sees then it’s her fault she could have prevented the rape from happening in the first place by putting some clothes on..

That’s the case with these small indie companies crying for attention.

franwex2065d ago

@Zarock

Men can control themselves and don’t have to rape anyone-even if women are running around naked.

phoenixwing2065d ago

@zarock
this is why we can't have nice things. you say women shouldn't run around naked they'll end up getting raped.I'd like to live in a world where a woman can be as naked as she wants without fear of rape. Maybe that's why we don't have naked women in public because of you. Not to mention nude beaches. yeah you're taking away nude beaches. SHAME ON YOU

Rebel_Scum2065d ago

haha, so any bird going for a late night skinny dip is asking for it...holy heck mate

stupidusername2065d ago

@Zarock
That logic is so incredibly flawed. So do you also believe it’s the child or the parents fault if a child is abused by a pedo if they are naked on the beach? And is it also right to blame a murder victim for being murdered if they at some point annoyed their killer? Because the abuse could be avoided if the child had clothes on, and the murder could have been preventet if the murdered person didn’t annoy the killer.
I’m honestly very interested in what you think.

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King_Noctis2065d ago (Edited 2065d ago )

How do they make sure that all payments are legit? Are the developers supposed to check every credit cards with the bank or every Paypal accounts with Paypal everytime someone make a purchase?

Sephiroushin2065d ago (Edited 2065d ago )

No, but usually this happens in bulk... hackers dont steal 1000 credit cards and buy a key with each they get few cards and buy keys in big bulks... why do indie developers refuse to put restriction on how many keys someone can buy is beyond me you dont see this happening with big companies for a reason ... its plain stupid not to protect yourself and take this kind of risk

sinspirit2065d ago

@Sephiroushin

But, when the transaction is processed through e-retailers like Amazon, Steam, Origin, Epic Store, etcetera it isn't managed by the developer. It's managed through those services. So, it's not the developers fault in the slightest unless it's directly purchased through them by putting in your card information on their own website. Even through services like PayPal. Those services are the ones that are in charge of the transaction. If it's cleared through them then the developer can't do anything but wait and see what happens, and then refund and potentially receive compensation.

monkey6022065d ago

If your home ever gets robbed we'll be sure to find every reason possible as to why it's your fault too

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hentaicollector2065d ago

What about cdkeys.com? I always they're legit.

SegaGamer2065d ago

It's hard to say with CDKeys, they have never been upfront with where they get their keys from, but it is assumed that they buy keys and resell them.

I wouldn't advise anybody to pre-order from them though, especially if it's is a more niche game. I recently tried pre-ordering Shenmue 3 and Streets of Rage 4 and I never got the game. They gave me a refund with this message each time "We regret to inform you that there has been an unexpected issue and unfortunately we are unable to fulfill this order"

The reason why they can't fulfill the order is because they never have an agreement in place with the publisher. They take a gamble. If they can pick up some cheap keys, then they will give you a key, if they can't, then you get a refund and a discount coupon. It's really shady, because if they have no keys to sell, then they shouldn't be offering pre-orders at all.

I knew I wouldn't get Streets of Rage 4 when I pre-ordered the game from them, but that was the plan all along. I knew I would get a refund the same day and a discount code for my next purchase on their site, and that is exactly what happened. I'll keep doing this too, it's their own fault for offering pre-orders for games they don't even have available to sell.

SegaGamer2065d ago (Edited 2065d ago )

I think we could see an end to reedeming games through keys in the next few years. Epic's recent partnership with Fanatical and Greenmangaming could mean we are heading towards a future without keys. Linking your account to a store to purchase a game could be what we are heading towards.

I'm not sure how well this will go down with gamers, but publishers will love it. It would basically kill off keys being resold or traded. The likes of G2A, Kinguin and CDKeys would go out of business too seeing as they don't obtain keys from publishers, they either steal them or buy them cheap from other regions and sell them on their own store.

Sephiroushin2065d ago (Edited 2065d ago )

Humble had this with steam keys some time ago and they had to remove it and re-add the keys because they were losing sales, keyless has it good and bad but definitively its less options

I am one of those people that on humble etc sales buy some games I know my cousins or friends want and their bday, xmas etc is near the sales time... But if there is no key to send them i just wont buy it and get it directly from steam sales when it happens etc <- this hurt the store the store wont want this at the end of the day!

The Great Melon2065d ago (Edited 2065d ago )

I thought Humble removed the automatic redemption due to the transition from OAuth 1.0 to OAuth 2.0. I actually mourned the loss of that feature as entering keys into Steam as a heavy bundle purchaser is much more time-consuming now.

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