Here’s the kicker. Let’s put aside Xbox or PlayStation for just once and get up in ubisofts grill if this game isn’t 60 FPS on both systems. There’s no excuse other than an in engine problem but that still leaves the whole of argument. If it’s not 60fps it’s just pure laziness or lack of time. Same thing in my book. Not to mention both systems should nail 4 k as well

A steady 60 fps does NOT improve ANY game... I hate The Last of Us at 60 fps, it loses it’s cinematic feel, so I’m thrilled that I can toggle it.

Yes, plenty of games deserve to run at 60 fps. Any competitive game or game heavily reliant on timing tends to benefit from a higher frame rate.

Looking at the amount of detail running at 30 fps for UE5, is anybody worried about games running at 60 fps on next gen consoles? Sure, they won’t look THAT good if pushed to 60 fps, but I’m sure Madden can make a very pretty sports sim locked at 60 fps. Or, at least they should be able to.

Idk if GoW2 will be 60 fps, because the devs may think a cinematic look is more important than the smoothest combat. And, they may design the pace of combat with this frame rate in mind.

Ultimately, I hope PS5 exclusives follow the same suit they did with photo mode and custom HUDs, and offer a resolution/frame rate switch for all of their games, too. Not everybody cares about 4K, and not every one wants a single player game locked at 120 fps (but do happen to own an 8k tv).

I’d personally be happy with 30 fps across the board, but I’d be happier to see PS5 offer an opportunity for console gamers to stop having this debate.

Just fucking give players the option to play at the resolution/framerate they want... It doesn't have to be like the framerate sliders that are on PC. Just have 3 options.

-1080p 100+ fps
-1440p 60 fps
-4k 30 fps

Edit: Also, i hope they increase the FOV on console because they are unbearably bad.

Some gamers are so locked into the nonsense of 60fps and 4K like that makes a game fun. If it's 4K but 30fps, you guys won't play it. If it's 60fps but only 1080P, you won't play it.

"Give us a choice like PC." " Give us 4K/60fps or death."

Just totally ridiculous mindsets. These individuals aren't gamers. They're graphics whores repeating buzz word marketing. If a game is fun to play, I don't care what resolution or frame rate a game is. That's how it's supposed to be.

Many games will be 60 frames, but 30 frames will still be a reality. What will and must end are games that arent even locked at 30 frames like this gen. Only racers will reach higher frames.

I didn’t play a lot of Xbox one x games because they where 30fps. I don’t know if it’s the one x or the programming but 30fps on one x, for example in Looks Laylee look much worse than some 30fps ps4 Pro games. I couldn’t play them, it strains my eyes.
Also: why does animal crossing need to be 30fps? Graphics are worse than SMO and BOTW and it’s on a much smaller island.
God I hate 30 FPS.
Just please give us options.

Also: the bigger the screen, the worse it looks at 30fps.

First off, if anyone is expecting 4k 60 fps with Ray tracing on to be the norm, you are looking to be disappointed.
I think that developers should allow an option for a performance mode. There are times when I want to play a game with high fps and time where I want to cherish the beauty of the game.

I just want next gen games to look sharp,clean,clear pretty & vivid far as graphics & resolution including running well may the be 30fps or 60fps or in between.

60FPS is the most important standard to me for next gen consoles. Anything less will be severely disappointing.

some gamers will get upset if a game doesn't hit 60
Some will get upset if the game doesn't hit the native resolution (see the uproar over 900p games last gen)
Some will get upset if graphics look like last gen.

Developers can't make everyone happy all the time. But they seem to cater most to the third group that wants to see dazzling graphics over everything else. Thats probably where the most sales are

i could not play FH4 on 4k30 fps keep wreaking. changed it to 1080p 60 fps game plays great.
i always had a hard time driving in GTA V on my X1X . i didn't know it was only 30fps on the X.
picked it up for free on my pc this week . now all of the sudden no problem driving . my pc plays it over 60fps.
Never knew how bad 30fps was till i played the same game at a higher FPS.

I can't wait to have Visual Novels running at 60 or 120fps on the next-gen consoles /s

You will not get 60 fps for games that aren't competitive and/or fast. Its beating a dead horse at this point. Cinematic games like Resident Evil and TLOU will continue to be 30 fps. Games like Doom and Cod will continue to be 60 fps. As long as you're on console, this is the reality. Get over it.

Here's the problem. People need to stop looking at consoles the same way they look at PC's. On console, framerate is not hardware driven. You cannot "brute force" your way to 60fps on console the way you can on PC because consoles are not modular. You can't go on Newegg and buy a more powerful graphics chip to put into your PS5 or XSX. On closed architectures like consoles, framerate is a CREATIVE choice made by the developer. So no matter how beefy the PS5 and XSX are, they are still at the mercy of the developers and how they want to allocate the system's resources. So when anyone tries to claim that the XSX or the PS5 was "built for 60fps" that is just empty marketing speak. It's still at the discretion of the developer. If developers wanted to, they could've decided to make current gen all 60fps. Again, it's all a matter of resource management and what they are willing to sacrifice to make 60fps a priority. So please, stop speaking PC language in a console world. It's completely apples and oranges. If you cannot accept that, then you're in the wrong ecosystem. Go play PC if sub 60fps is a gaming "deal breaker" for you.

Tell me again how the multiplatform strategy was supposed to fix everything. Look at your results and compare them to Nintendo, which keeps thriving with exclusives. Your loyal fans are gone. And let’s not forget the pile of IPs you purchased only to let them rot.

The worst thing is this is down from last years numbers/expectations which was down from the previous years numbers/expectations. You think about how long “down” has been a consistent part of the communication and you realize those subscriptions are what’s holding that boat together. The price cut of gamespass is still a price raise in a string of price raises. They are trying to use players to offset the missing revenue. Now call of duty is out of gamespass, which is literally WHY they bought the company. To draw people to the subscription. They realized they missed a boatload of money and that wasn’t sustainable. Now you pay for it like you would have if they never bought the company… so why buy the company? Mind you those billions still need to be paid back. Yeah it gives you a chance to say we make the biggest FPS… but the internal conversations must be brutal at high level on topics that really matter. Like revenue. Profitability. And ROI for the shopping spree.

Is this like the 10th quarter in a row they're down 33% on hardware how is that even mathematically possible. You would think their mediocrity would Plateau

Wuchang is great. Nine Sols didn’t have a physical copy so I never played it but I’ve heard good things so I will check it out. I stopped playing sports games many years ago when before the card dlc’s or whatever they’re called.

Last comment… ):

Great month for others, but not me. Hate soccer and soulslikes. Maybe Nine Sols is good.

🫡 it was fun while it lasted, N4G.

FC26!