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Scorn dev states that CPU is the game changer next generation

Ebb Software thinks that it's the CPU, not the SSD that will turn the tide this coming hardware generation.

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NecrumOddBoy2212d ago

Lol... okay buddy

Where is your gameplay to show us CPU power?

isarai2212d ago

There's quite a bit of gameplay of scorn though...

Fishy Fingers2211d ago (Edited 2211d ago )

I wouldnt go on the old gameplay too much. From the source interview:

"Basically 80% of that part of the game you saw has changed, let alone the rest of the game.”

The original gameplay was a demo for investers.

sushimama2211d ago

That gameplay DOES NOT look 'next gen'.

S2Killinit2211d ago

MS: quick get a developer to talk about CPU.

That gameplay looks alright. Borderline current gen i think. Iooks like its running on PC.

monkey6022211d ago

Yeah theyve said that old build was a demonstration to show backers that they could in fact make a game but is entirely unrepresentative of the final product.

We do in fact have no idea how this game is going to play out.

But they do have my attention

RpgSama2211d ago

I wouldn't brag about that footage, it has a wonderful art direction, but gameplay and graphics wise it looks not only really rough (understandable because it's alpha) but decidedly not "Next-Gen"

KyRo2211d ago

Sushma, gameplay in general has hardly changed much since last generation. It's just more refined.

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brrdat2211d ago

how much of it displays cpu power?

SyntheticForm2211d ago

@S2Killinit

S2Killinit: Quick, let's try to discredit the entire piece and the developer because he's making a game for Xbox Series X, and he's talking about the upgraded CPU more keenly affecting his work than any other component.

Babadook72211d ago

Quick let’s assume game changer refers to an individuals opinion as opposed to an industry wide objective truth.

Donnie812210d ago

Yeah I think this game looks so weird but intriguing

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no_more_heroes2212d ago

I imagine the "game changer" any one dev will differ depending on what their games utilize. For these guys it might be the CPU. For other guys its the SSD. For some, the memory bandwidth of the GPUs.

ArthriticPowers2212d ago

Agree entirely! Obviously it will help more through the cross gen transition

SyntheticForm2211d ago

It's all a game changer, really, but in my personal opinion it's the CPUs and SSDs. Developers and gamers have been clamoring for better CPUs since the start of the generation.

They're both very important.

rainslacker2211d ago (Edited 2211d ago )

For some, it could be all of the above....or none at all.

My personal opinion while making tools to use on next gen consoles....I think the SSD is what will allow for the greatest advancements for those that really try to innovate game design. Graphics are easy to improve. Game design is much deeper than that though, and it's the game design itself which has mostly stagnated since last gen to now.

ArthriticPowers2212d ago

Just trying to get different opinions from actual devs out there mate. I think SSD's will give us heaps more once developers drop support for mechanical hdd's later this gen. Sony exclusives are the only thing that MAY make use of it in substantial ways at launch (since Microsoft has annouced 1-2yr min of xbox one support) If you only want to see articles that support your opinion don't click.

Rude-ro2211d ago

It is the entire infrastructure of the hardware and that can only be driven by a vision in gaming.
The ssd is not the secret sauce, it is just a part of it. Like teraflops in a pc... not the “sales pitch” Microsoft made it out to be.
Unless you have an 8k monitor or tv... you can have all the teraflops you want.. you still will not get anything other than a larger power bill.
Rendering what is in the game at 4k is where all the bottlenecks becomes relevant.
Speed, new game engines, and innovation is where you will see the “next gen”.
^ add in a company that has been dedicated to a vision with award winning techniques and games... then you have something to always look towards with their products.

With Microsoft.. it is always “wait till next year” because when you use more hype than actual results.. you only have hope vs confidence.

Example: will halo infinite return halo to its formal glory while playing like a new gen game? We can only hope.

Past example: crackdown 3 hyped up to be gen defining and a huge advancement in cloud gaming.
Result: The old engine re-used with 4k resolution and a laughable version of cloud gaming.

rlow12211d ago

You might be right but I think their going to want to fully support the 100+ PS4 players. So I still see them making sure all first parties support it. At least for awhile, because that's a lot of money to leave off the table.

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Rude-ro2211d ago

@perty

That’s what I said.
Are you referring to the gpu?

The cpu needs speed and less bottlenecks.

The engines are just as important as the hardware per seeing gen defining leaps.

We are also talking innovation and evolution with Sony.
Not more make up on old game engines for cheap costs and better profits.

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CaptainCook2212d ago (Edited 2212d ago )

Scorn is going to be Native 4k 60fps on Xbox Series X, they're looking into implementing Ray Tracing as well.

What did Epic show? Tech demo running at 1440p 30fps on PS5 with No Ray Tracing.

ArthriticPowers2212d ago

Interactive tech demos and gameplay are definitely very different things. In saying that UR5 coupled with a solid SSD being mandated looks game changing from first impressions

blackblades2212d ago

There was ray tracing, there own form of it. They also used 8k textures, and 1440 doesnt matter from the looks of it. The so called tech demo was also playble and made on a early dev kit uncompressed I believe. Stop using the same excuse to make yourself feel better.

CaptainCook2212d ago (Edited 2212d ago )

@blackblades

Luman isn't Ray Tracing. Even digital Foundry stated this....

IRetrouk2211d ago

They said it incorporates some raytracing into it, the bounces I think? Not sure but would have to watch the vid again, it's right at the start if that's any help.

waverider2211d ago

Dude, keep thinking that... No hardware Ray tracing.... Its a diferent thing.

RazzerRedux2211d ago

Why are pretending this tech demo for an engine not even set to release for another year and not going to have actual optimized games for years after that is representative of anything other than some highlighted features of UE5? You are pushing this Xbox narrative that what Epic showed was somehow even remotely close to a final product. That is fanboy nonsense and you know it.

IRetrouk2211d ago

Found it, skip to 00:48 and listen to what's being said, there is indeed some ray tracing used.

https://youtu.be/iIDzZJpDlp...

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waverider2211d ago

The cpu upgrade is very nice for this gen. But the ssd is the biggest jump for this gen

SyntheticForm2211d ago

CPU power is huge.

We didn't even need a developer to speak up to know that this is the case, so why behave as if the developer is full of it?

MajorLazer2211d ago

The fanboyism on this site is actually a disease. People are quick to forget the Jaguar CPU's are a** and these Zen 2 CPU's are a colossal upgrade over what we have right now. People are so caught up in the SSD, as if SSD is the be-all and end-all and nothing else matters.

SyntheticForm2211d ago

@Major

It almost feels as though the PS5's SSD is only important because it beats Microsoft's. Were they equal, this wouldn't be such a focal point for fanboys.

Now they're painting it as if nothing else matters. All generation, most people didn't even know what a damn SSD was - it was all about the weak CPUs. Now that we've finally got more-than-competent CPUs, all that matters is PS5's SSD and anyone who wants to talk about the CPUs are just trying to avoid talking about the SSD? FFS, the inanity.

Let's just ship the really nutty fanboys the SSD without the console, since now, apparently, the SSD is all that matters. I think that would be a fantastic prank.

SyntheticForm2211d ago (Edited 2211d ago )

I wonder how the tone of the reactive comments would be if this game were being developed for PS5.

CPUs are important too - very much so, and it's the opinion of this particular developer that CPU is the biggest factor. That's their opinion as of this moment.

No problem, right? Well, it is if you're a Sony fanboy and want the 'only' narrative out there to be 'All that matters is the SSD' because that's the area where Sony soundly beats Microsoft.

Anything remotely challenging this narrative such as 'The CPU is important' pisses them off, because it talks about a different strength that doesn't focus on the SSD, which in turn doesn't explain how PS5 is better. If you're not explaining why PS5 is better, you're praising something else, and they can't have that.

So, basically, Microsoft can't tout anything now without "damage controlling?"

Let's be honest, the CPU is very important, and what's better, BOTH consoles have nice CPUs now.

DOMination-2211d ago

There we have it straight from a dev. PS5 can boot up quick if we can skip the epilepsy warning but then ifots potato quality theres no point

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Zeref2211d ago

CPU is mostly utilized for AI and Physics calculation. We're gonna see significant advances there. Not to mention Machine Learning capabilities as well.
The SSDs in both are gonna change game design for developers significantly as well.
GPU will give us raytraced graphics for the first time on console.

Nextgen is a bigger jump than from PS3/360 to PS4/Xone

Imalwaysright2211d ago (Edited 2211d ago )

Will we? Games that were released more than 10 years ago have more impressive physics systems than most current gen games. Physics systems have been downgrade over the years due to design choices made by devs, not because of hardware limitations so unless developers change their approach to game design I'm not expecting significant advances in physics systems.

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rainslacker2211d ago (Edited 2211d ago )

Physics is generally offloaded to the GPU. Physics in games is almost all in floating point, and CPU's are not that efficient at such things, even if they are powerful. Truthfully, The CELL processor in the PS3 is better at physics calculations than the CPU's in next gen systems. It wouldn't be able to do enough of them compared to GPU compute nowadays, but if there was a CELL that matched today's(or next gen's) standards, it would greatly outclass a GPU compute set up. GPU compute is quite efficient though, and that's mostly because it uses what worked well in CELL to do the same thing. It just processes the data in a different architecture.

CPU's do control things like AI, as well as the entire game loop. They also provide system tasks, and fascilitate the transfer of data by making hardware calls. All in all, CPU's do quite a bit of work, and while I won't say having more powerful CPU's is a bad thing, I also think that the CPU is actually becoming less relevant to game design as time progresses. However, the Jaguar CPU is not up to snuff relative to what the next gen has to offer, but the Zen processors are kind of overkill.

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KTF262211d ago

O.K.
I remember days on n4g where there is no gamingbolt
then gamingbolt came
and now a lot of gamingbolts

NeoGamer2322211d ago

The improvements this next gen as with every gen will be based on what you are trying to do in your games.

If CPU, GPU, memory, or I/O performance were bottlenecks in achieving your past games then improvements to them will allow to to improve your games going forward.

Saying any one hardware change is going to change everything for every game is ridiculous.

I do like that load times this gen will improve the overall console experience for the end users. But even with the outstanding performance of Sony's I/O it is still well over 10x slower then memory so will have limited use. There will still be fillers for loads, those fillers will be smaller though.

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VaNdAl37d ago

Phil Spencer killed the Xbox Let It Go move on to PC

Jingsing37d ago

They would be better breaking up what valued assets they still have and put them out to auction for the competition.
There is no more financial gain for them on any trajectory in the entertainment space.

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PlayStation Confirms New DRM, Digital Games Will Vanish If Players Don't Log-In For 30 Days

Tech4Gamers writes: "A PlayStation Support assistant has confirmed that the 30-day timer implemented by the new DRM policy is part of an update and isn’t a bug. While responding to a fan’s query, PS support revealed that all games purchased digitally after March 2026 will be affected by this time limit.

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Goodguy0138d ago

That is wild lol. Steam already does this for some games depending on the developer...but man...all digital games on ps5...

Eonjay38d ago

FYI, it hasn't actually been confirmed. This is just a lot of assumptions. If this is the case i would expect Sony to come out and say so. Chat bot response doesn't count as official confirmation.

People are also saying this is also an inadvertent mistake. If this is the case Sony and its customers would be best served by coming out and saying so.

If this isn't a mistake I think they need to confirm it and Playstation gamers should complain.

darthv7238d ago

Sounds like Sony quietly did what MS openly said they were going to do with the once a month check in... and MS got so much flak they had to change course.

People need to give Sony even more flak if its true.

blacktiger38d ago

If the response is from Sony whether irresponsible employee or chatbot. That's from SONY until Sony reiterate

Dandizzle38d ago

seriously, a large company like sony wouldnt do that without an announcement or else it would result in bombardment of customer service

BlackOni38d ago

Sony's chatbot is notoriously garbage at providing even basic information and functioning properly. I wouldn't take anything it says seriously.

That said, if this is true, this is serious af. Major L for gamers across the board.

1Victor38d ago

It’s no mistake someone got paid to code that in the update and it wasn’t just for the lol

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phatak38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

This is beyond nuts, this was pretty much the exact thing that the playstation execs during the ps4 era mocked the xbox one over and xbox never recovered after it, this is why you need stiff competition folks, Sony high on their own supply just like the early ps3 days where we apparently needed 2 jobs to afford one, I was a massive Ps3 fanboy mainly due to the fact that the xbox 360 pushed sony into a corner resulting in them actually trying real hard to get market share back and as a result we got crazy good exclusives, just for old times sakes like I used to do back in 2012 right here on n4g ill relist some of the major exclusives of ps3 again

Demons souls
Metal gear solid 4
uncharted 1,2,3
infamous 1,2, festival of blood
little big planet 1,2 & little big planet karting
gran turismo 5 and 6 & ridge racer 7
killzone 2,3
twisted metal
journey
ratchet and clank tools of destruction, quest for booty, crack in time, all for one, into the nexus
resistance 1,2,3
last of us 1
god of war 3 and ascension
motorstorm collection
ico & shadow of the colossus collection
folklore
modnation racers
warhawk & starhawk
sly collection & jack and daxter collection
Puppeteer & comet crash & tokyo jungle & rain & gravity crash & Echochrome & the last guy
Heavenly Sword
3D Dot Game Heroes
Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale
Mag & Socom 4
Fat Princess
Ni no Kuni, Valkyria Chronicles, Yakuza 3,4,5 (these all came to pc later )

But just think and compare this catalog of games to ps5 ?
Saros, astro bot, demons souls remake, ghost of yotei, I would have included gran turismo 7 but that came on ps4 as well so not really an absolute exclusive that one needs to buy a ps5 to play like the other 4.

We are almost in the 6th year of the ps5, the 6th year of the ps3 was around 2012 and almost all the games from the list above were already released on the ps3, now if they are really pulling this online crap every 30 days non sense its only because of a lack of competition from xbox and so they have console players by the ba**s, now I don't know whether this is confirmed or not but regardless if this is in general where their headspace is at it seems like we should be worried, its the real playstation gamers that will be affected if its true, Im not even a playstation gamer anymore but my recommendation is put your money where you mouth is and really abandon playstation if this ends up being true.

Extermin8or3_38d ago

No it isnt. The xbox one require you to check in online every 24 hours. Also alot has changed in terms of Internet infrastructure and provision globally since 2013.....

hiawa2338d ago

Looking at what consoles cost now, many need 2 jobs.

cytricks38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Not quiet. Xbox wanted to do DRM for physical games so they would be locked to your account and not sharable

Zerobalance38d ago

Most of those games are trash. Deal bro🤣 Ponies gotta pony up. Muma Sony wants some more cash. PC bro! Good ol' games. Look it up.

Ashunderfire8638d ago

O man you remember that PS3 statement from crazy Ken Kutagri whatever is last name is, was so cringe for saying,”Your gonna want PS3 so bad you need 2 jobs!” That guy overhype the crap out of PS3, that was the most expensive console, an a lot of misinformation about the graphics and performance delta over 360.

Kyizen38d ago

Xbox drm was for physical games also and 24 hours with no sharing

vTuro2437d ago

Yeah stuff like this is why competition is needed. The ps360 era was peak gaming. Microsoft and Sony waging a full on war and Nintendo just kinda doing their own thing. The gamers only benefited from that. Then Microsoft shot themselves in the dick with the Xbone and that gen felt like a step down from the previous (imo), though it wasn't bad still.
Then you have the current gen, which honestly feels like one big nothingburger. Barely anything interesting gets released while prices keep going up which to me is just insane. Astro Bot is basically their only exclusive that I'd be interested in buying, but I'm not buying an console just for that. Especially not one as expensive as the ps5... I would add Demon's Souls to that, but I already played the original. Loved the game, but a remake isn't a system seller for me.

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Loktai38d ago

@darthv72 Yeah LIKE 14 years ago. Its like saying "Give sony flak for raising game prices, because it would have made you mad in 2012"

PRIMORDUS38d ago

Pirate on PC what you can, you will own it, nothing will be taken from you. I feel like your just throwing money away and have nothing to show for it, with digital games.

1Victor38d ago

Well all I’m going to say is I’ll vote with my wallet and keep refusing to buy digital and will cancel my ps extra this is bs and you all that still think digital is the future should take note because once the servers goes down so does your digital game library. Good luck and good bye

blacktiger37d ago

what game on steam has that/?

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Jin_Sakai38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

This has to be a mistake.

“Received word from an anonymous insider. The Sony DRM issue is unintentional. From what we gathered, Sony accidentally broke something while fixing an exploit. They've known about the confusing UI for a while, but didn't see it as urgent. Hoping for a clarifying statement now.”

Eonjay38d ago

I find their communication to be very poor. If this is an error on their part why let people get worried about it? I understand they don't respond to rumor but sometimes they make it worse by not responding and this is an unforced error on top of and apparent unforced error.

Kribwalker38d ago

There’s people that talked directly to people, not chat bots, that confirmed it’s real 🤷‍♂️
I expect those fans that were so against Xbox doing it to eat a whole lot of crow

Outside_ofthe_Box38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Damn, we having diehards coming out of the woodworks for this. 😳

But you're right this is literally what led to the demise of the Xbox One and led to some calling it the Xbone.

There is literally no need for this and Sony has been doing just fine without it. If I don't turn on my console for 30 days and want to play offline I should be able to play the game that I paid for, no if and or buts about it.

Jin_Sakai38d ago

If it’s real it won’t last long. Almost every PlayStation YouTube video is full of revolt comments about it.

CrashMania38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

The screenshot from the article is from an AI chat bot, there are plenty of screenshots floating around from actual human chat reps stating the opposite.

SkilledGamer38d ago

It's also worth noting that the text stating a 30 day license seems to only be visible on PS4, PS5 users aren't seeing it at all.

Warrior9438d ago

It this is real then I will never buy digital again and if the PS6 is digital only then it will be the first Playstation Console I wont buy

VersusDMC38d ago

"Games will vanish" is click baity as hell...all you have to do is log in and the license is restored.

phatak38d ago

@ VersusDMC The entire goal for us gamers is to want to avoid that lol, what if sony's servers are down or having some maintenance, many times ive just played my installed games without even signing into psn, from now one it means every 30 days I have to at the very least sign it to psn to even play my installed games, cannot even play single player games without singing in, so for example if sony just decides to ban me from psn, I cannot even play the games locally already installed on my drive that I purchased after march 2026, you don't think thats insane ? you just want to accept that ? abandon playstation right now if this story gets confirmed.
we officially have started renting games from march 2026, it was a good run we had 1994 to 2026.

VersusDMC38d ago

Maintenance doesn't last 30 days

Who doesn't sign in to psn for 30 days? Missing out on game updates, new games, messages, demos, etc...

You already lost all your purchases if you got permanently banned from psn so that's not new.

And if for some reason you don't have internet for 30 days you can use your smartphone as a Hotspot to connect your ps5 to the internet.

phatak38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

@VersusDMC my point isn't not about the 30 days maintenance man, the fact that you are willing to accept this 30 days sign in means they totally OWN you now, what if they change this later to 7 days, im sure you will be making the exact same point right " who doesnt sign into psn every 7 days" ? eventually say it becomes every 24 hours you cool with that too ? by psn banning you I mean to say if I get banned on psn right now for some weird reason that they decide, but I have 20 installed games already downloaded and ready to play just by clicking X, basically all the exclusives from ps4 and ps5, even if my psn is banned I still get to play the games already installed right now same like putting the disc into a banned console, from march 2026 will I be able to play my locally installed games with a banned PSN ? Its not about the length of time, its the fact that the corporation gets total control over how I choose to even play my single player offline games with mandatory sign ins, a simple thing such as forgetting my password would mean I cant even play ghost of yotei offline without signing into psn.

You ever heard the phrase "give someone an inch and they will take a yard", thats what will happen here, it doesn't just end at 30 days sign in, that's just the start

cytricks38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

Is it that difficult to sign in for one second every 30 days? Especially if you are ps plus member who wants to get their free games?

phatak38d ago (Edited 38d ago )

@cytricks You are focusing again on the 30 days too, "oh sony said its only 30 days so we are safe" While its not a probability YET, just know that your playstation turns into a brick if sony decides to turn off those servers.

Sony's lack of communication is telling my conspiracy filled mind lol that they're testing to see if they can get away with this. If it was truly a mistake, they would have acknowledged it, apologised, and stated they're working on a fix.

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