I don't think most console gamers realize that when MS calls this a Sim, it's an actual Sim, and not really a game. Not a sim in the sense that Gran Turismo is a sim, but an actual sim. Like, you could use it as practice to learn how to fly a plane....at least partially.

I'm getting it on PC, although it looks like I might finally have to upgrade my GPU. Always been a fan of MSFS, and I already have a HOTAS from AC7.

@rainslacker

"I'm getting it on PC, although it looks like I might finally have to upgrade my GPU. Always been a fan of MSFS, and I already have a HOTAS from AC7."

Lol. So Phil Spencer has a videogame that actually has you interested? In PC gaming? Upgrade your GPU? Wow!

So much for "MS doesn´t have AAA appealing games" or "I don´t know any person on PC excited about an Xbox game".

Well, you´re. XD

"I don't think most console gamers realize that when MS calls this a Sim, it's an actual Sim, and not really a game."

Oh, they do. It´s not like decades ago when we use to goin blind buying videogames. Welcome to the internet.

Yeah, I'll upgrade my GPU. Something I should have done instead of buying a X1 this gen. Would have brought me much more benefit. It's something I keep meaning to do, but I never really have much justification.
I may even build a new PC, because mine is fairly old, although PC's haven't changed much outside the GPU.
On top of that, my HOTAS doesn't work on X1, and likely won't work on XSX, so why would I bother playing it on Xbox? I'm certainly not going to drop another $200 on a flight stick.

And yeah, I guess Spencer did make something I want. Even if he had nothing to do with it, and this was just MS deciding to push out a new version of the game since the other one has been going by the wayside, I will get this. I never said Spencer wasn't capable of making something, only that he took his damn time doing it, and spent more time talking about it than actually doing it. So, maybe stop putting words in my mouth, because I have always made it clear it was their lack of quantity, and more so, what they have been bringing out in the AAA space over the last 5 years hasn't appealed to me, with the exception of Forza. On top of that, I have never actually talked shit about their AAA games, because I don't think they're bad games, just generally don't appeal to me.

"It´s not like decades ago when we use to goin blind buying videogames."

Really? because until this was coming to Xbox, I have never once seen a single console gamer discussing MSFS for consoles, wanting it on consoles, or even knowing what it was. I mean, I've been playing this series since it was vector graphics on a 386. It has a strong PC community, one that I used to be fairly active in, but most of them were not console gamers. Since this was announced, I've seen people act like this is an actual game, and hyping it up as if it's a game. They refer to it as a game. They say that it's going to be a great game. It also continue to make it to games list...often from you in fact. So on and so forth.

I'm happy if you like the series, but knowing you, I think your only real interest in this is because it gives you another title to keep adding to your frequent games list. You can't talk about a single MS game without the first thing coming out of your mouth being how the XSX is going to be the best place to play it, and how MS is going to rule them all.

Even now you're using it as some sort of huge win for the Xbox, and that all these real gamers are going to be playing it on the XSX, when really, it's once again, only the Xbox fan boys who seem to be making this into something more than it is. The MSFS community I've checked back on here and there seems excited about it, but most of them aren't talking about it as an Xbox or MSGS game. Just that it's a new MSFS. Completely different perspective.

Maybe off topic has something to do with it? The hint is in the title. Very sensitive to some up and down arrows. Classic insecurity.

@fr0sty

Oh it will.

Halo Infinite, Forza 8, and some surpring titles.

but isn't this not really a game? more of an educational simulator aimed for people who are learning to fly as well as those who enjoy it as an hobby?? Wasn't the original idea of this franchise to showcase graphics every time there is a leap in technology? I assume its just the same now I could be wrong but I will still stand by not many copies being sold

@Haxx0r

"more of an educational simulator aimed for people who are learning to fly as well as those who enjoy it as an hobby??"

Cant the same be said for a racing sim? If you just remove the word "fly" and replace it with "drive" then we could be talking about a game like GTS, right?

Except, this isn't actually a game. It's a simulator. They aren't the same thing. Games are a type of simulation, but not all simulators are games.

Biggest key difference is that a game has to provide a challenge to overcome which leads to a win lose scenario, presumably for the purpose of fun and/or entertainment, or in the case of any Souls game, torturing the player.

If you lose in MSFS, you pretty much crashed the plane, or maybe violated international airspace, or parked your plane in someone's garage.

Maybe they added some challenges to it to give it some game play scenarios. There were some expansions and mods for older MSFS releases which did this.

Racing sims are more forgiving, and tend not to be blazing accurate on many factors that involve driving, physics, or rules to abide by. They often follow general rules for many racing circuits, but most racing games that call themselves sims, aren't actually simulators...even the one who's main tagline has been that it's "The Real Driving Simulator", Gran Turismo. The creator wanted to do that, but found that it wasn't a fun game.

MSFS is a very accurate flight simulator, and is very well respected in it's class. But it's a very dry experience, and while some people still love that kind of challenge, calling it a game isn't really accurate.

I give up lol, the defense force has come out, and I bet none of them purchase this game.

@Haxx0r

Thats actually the best thing you've said in this thread thus far. How many people bought Dreams or Death Stranding??? Not every game is going to be for everyone...we all understand this. For those who don't buy it, their will be Game Pass. It will be fine.