Oh yeah. Bloodborne would be brilliant at 60fps.

That's strange. I wonder why a PS exclusive like that never got a patch

BC is dumb. We don’t need that feature.

I think we will see some raytracing and a framerate bump, hes already got a version of sport running at 8k with raytracing, but I think it will be the next game before we see extensive use.

Rain in multiplayer

Would love this but I think its gonna be the new game before we see any real improvements or support, really hope we get the whole game playable at some point, there is nothing else like racing in vr, hard to go back to flat screens lol.

@ IRetrouk

Totally agree, and ultimately that will be better in the long run, but it's fun to daydream :)

I'd still rather do time trials in VR than full races in flat screen, but I recently finally got a 4K TV so am doing more flat screen than I used to. Also need to get new HDMI cables for my PSVR as the current setup does not handle the HDR pssthrough well at all and I think it's because of one or both cables being low spec.

Yeah I agree, always fun to think of what's next, I do think we will see a real improvement though, just gonna take some patience lol dont get me wrong, I still play on a flat screen too it's just hard to jump back and forth sometimes lol

Funny, i am sure this gen, all we heard in relation to games was :-

"Let's wait for Digital Foundry comparisons"

Now they are untrustworthy?

@DJStotty

Lol what? What would their comparisons show? False info? They aren't liars. Misleading and lying are two different things. There was no result they could show that generally favored XBox. IF they lied about it then they'd be out of business. They'd cover games like Destiny 1 that had parity on both consoles and gave props to the XBox development for reaching the PS4, without talking about how PS4 could have had more features if they put the same amount of effort in to it. If a game had lower resolution and performance on XBox, it wasn't a big deal. They wouldn't cover the PS4 version like it was the end all be all. They'd state the facts and carry on. If XBox has the superior version, like with One X. They act more excited and relay more information. Also, note how this generation when PS4 had the superior multiplats that they started adding PC comparisons into their videos to make it seem less important.

They couldn't lie about what console did better, but they could make it less exciting. All the MS events they go to, the hardware they are sent, literally making an "analysis" video for Gears 5 where they did zero analysis and just repeated what the XBox studio devs told them. 360 vs PS3 where differences smaller than resolution were focused on. Now that PS5 got rid of CU's to clock higher, even in their previous article trying to stray away from calling the base XBox One weaker, they weren't acting skeptical at all for a system that was clearly a far weaker GPU because it had far less GPU cores. They rolled along with MS wanting to call the system "balanced" instead of weaker. 2 CU's and a 6% higher clock is not even close to making up for 50% less GPU cores, which is a direct influence on gaming performance. But, there they were just accepting their word and not acting skeptical about it. MS themselves said that CU's are not fully utilized so they cut 2 of them out to clock higher for real world gaming performance. Now that it's a much more significant difference, where we have a much higher in flux of CU's that may have hit another point of diminishing returns, and a much higher core clock, they try to find reasons to disagree and act skeptical because it PlayStation.

@Sinspirit

What i meant with my comment, is when fans on both sides were arguing about resolution/frames etc, the Sony camp always commented to "wait for digital foundry analysis"

If like you say "IF they lied about it then they'd be out of business." What is the issue?

You agreed that they can not lie, so you are stating that what DF present in the videos is true?

Maybe you dont remember.
Read first wired article Cerny is talking about the chip, no doubt about it. Watch DF reaction. And uncertainty for quite a while about ps5 RT.
Xbox lists Rdna2 based. Df accept it.
AMD and SONY list RDNA2 based. Df still sceptical about ps5 because Cerny didnt explicitly say VRS. (Even if it's not the same VRS RDNA2 based is undisputable)

BC? Was said in the wired article. Watch Cerny video. It's clear the GPU is presented as BC capable and Cerny says boost mode has been successfully tested for 100 games (that's with boost mode).
It was already clear then but Sony even precise later 4000 games etc. DF 'oh but they didnt say when' :/

Except thats not how it happened.

There was always uncertainty for RT for both consoles for obvious reasons. You could even say that it was cleared for XSX until they actually saw it in motion.

Also, the RDNA2 for xbox again, was directly listed with all the features it normally comes with and they were invited to see the console and speak with the designers, of course they will accept it.

For the PS5 wasnt clear at first, after the Cerny talk it was clear it was RDNA2 , though they still talked about how it didnt include any mention of VRS because Sony has not made any mention of it, so why would they talk about it like its sure its included?

And finally, for BC, even with the article its not yet clear how its going to be handled, which is why they mention that in the video. Its not sure what the timeline is, how much developer interaction will be required if any, and what type of automatic improvements will occur.

They are not bashing absolutely anything about BC in the video, they are literally taking about a whole bunch of games they feel have a lot of potential, but if they feel some things are not clear yet, why would they not say it?

Of course they have provided much more detailed and precise information for XSX, MS has definitely been more open in giving out this kind of info (not saying its better or worse, its just how it has been). Even then, they have basically already done like 5-6 discussion videos regarding PS5 even though the only info given so far have been the Cerny talk and the DualSense announcement

@Onilink

Here's the thing about RDNA2. AMD listed these features that are standard and come with RDNA2. They make RDNA2 what it is, because yse it's mainly just an architecture refresh but with new features as standard. So, being a technical channel, they should know that these features are on the PS5 because it's an RDNA2 chip. They said so by listing RDNA2 in consoles, and the features of having RDNA2. We know they haven't shown it. That doesn't mean it's not gonna be there. DF has a different tone with positive PS info vs positive XBox info. For PS, it's good. For XBox it's exciting. Every game on PS4 being superior was just what it is. It's better. For X1X beating PS4 Pro, it was exciting and they've just been milking the same statements for better multiplats. 720p vs 1080p was far more important and they didn't make it seem that way back then when the shoe was on the other feet. But, it's not like they couldn't say the difference was there.

Thanks for explanations.
Also with Alex who is quite active in questionable forum discussion, it's all a bit awkward.

Its like the final episode of the Sapranos. You gonna go to make a comment and when you click add th-

Timezone thing maybe.... RIP