there is no way a $500 product from a company in last place is going to be market leader. Spare me the fabled DX11/12 PC connection. Console sales will be the determining factor not wishful thinking. I've heard this rationale for nearly 20 years and yet it took a misstep from Sony to make devs briefly use the 360 platform as lead. Not some magic sauce between MS console and PCs like you're suggesting and hoping for. How long did that last by the way? Not even the entire gen. How much cheaper was a 360 over a PS3 during that time span too? See every question I ask is also pertinent to next gen - and aside from power, nothing else is a tick in the checklist on MS' side over Sony.

First....unwad your panties regarding "cool stuff". In no way is calling DirectX 12 Ultimate "cool stuff" diminishing it simply because I don't list all its features. Seems you are one of these types who want to pretend they work in the marketing department for Microsoft.

"Next gen, tables will turn around in terms of power."

lol...where have you been? The "tables turned" in 2016 with the release of One X. So what? Direct 12 has been there all along? So what? Ultimate is going to be a silver bullet? Yeah....that's what was said when DX12 was released. Again....so what?

" if Series X becomes the lead dev platform"

It won't make any difference at all. They are targeting similar architecture with different APIs. That has been the case all gen. You are pretending one will receive favor over the other based on nothing at all. There is no "lead dev platform".

"Things like RE3 Remake aren't likely to happen "

That's just a silly thing to say. It will happen.

"would probably happen more often on the PS5 side"

It will happen to both. Suddenly games getting patched, after launch regardless of platform, is a new thing to you? Again....where the hell have you been?

You are trying far too hard to make irrelevant things relevant.

@RazzerRedux You need to raise the bar of your replies. Try to start off by leaving insults and personal stuff aside. Also... Just... cool down. Why are you so angry?

Anyway... this one's easy to reply.

• Tables turned? Yes, in mid gen consoles. Base consoles is much different and what matters the most and this is what changed.
• Please read a bit about DX12 vs. DX12 ultimate.
• You clearly didn't understand my first statement. Don't let your anger blind you. I'm saying that, next gen, it's much less likely that a multiplatform game will perform worse worse on Series X than on PS5.
• DX12 Ultimate WILL be relevant, but it's not the "Silver Bullet" from Microsoft. They're addressing next gen from all fronts: Hardware performance lead, deep improvement in 1st party development (we're about to see more of if in the next 2 months... hope to see you then), Gamepass... which will become even more relevant with Series X and seamless backward compatibility with the X One ecosystem, Xbox All Access (great for people with low budget or people like me, who wants to jump in the next gen with a high end TV as well... good to have the option fo "finance" the Series X), awesome 3rd party deals... starting with "Free Next Gen Remasters", and of course, services. PSN has been a nightmare these days, whereas Xbox has kept much stronger during the generation and in the past few weeks.

Am I saying that MS will WIN this generation? Absolutely NOT. Playstation 4 still have the best first party games and for this I'm buying a PS5 as well (when those games come out) No way I'm missing GOW3 or TLOU2 (if it keeps getting delayed, I might as well buy it for PS5) and others. But the Xbox will give much better fight this time around, and this is good for customers. Current gen has been MEDIOCRE at best (my opinion)... the new one looks to be much better thanks to competition, and that' were all gamers win... except those with a fanatic point of view of it.

I'll never understand why people get so mad about consoles.

@Aquanox

You are the guy making a big deal about the phrase "cool stuff". If you want to talk about raising the bar then start with yourself. Don't get upset that someone doesn't reference every detail of DirectX12 Ultimate. You got wound up by that for no reason.

"Tables turned? Yes, in mid gen consoles. Base consoles is much different and what matters the most and this is what changed."

No, it isn't. The same narrative was used when One X was released. It changed nothing, but doesn't stop the same story from being told twice I guess. The ecosystems are in place and moving forward naturally from one gen to the next. This next "gen" is nothing more than a continuation of the last 4 years as far as hardware is concerned where Xbox has had the lead in power. But *this time* it is going to be different. lol....same song and dance as always.

"You clearly didn't understand my first statement. Don't let your anger blind you. I'm saying that, next gen, it's much less likely that a multiplatform game will perform worse worse on Series X than on PS5."

wow.....me telling you to "unwad your panties" really got under your skin. You can make that prediction all you want, but there is no basis for it.

"They're addressing next gen from all fronts..."

You went back into bullshit marketing mode. The rest of your post is irrelevant and you diverged far off from your XSX will be the "main dev console" nonsense and not have issues that need to be patched after launch. Just a silly thing to say really. Your points are entirely speculative, baseless, and regurgitates arguments made from a decade ago.

"I'll never understand why people get so mad about consoles.'

So why are you? You got bent out of shape that I "conveniently summarized" DirectX 12 as "cool stuff" as if that were somehow derogatory and didn't fully itemize and praise this glorious tech like a good MS loyalist such as yourself. It was clear that your panties were indeed wadded so my suggestion that you unwad them stands. Practice what you preach and "raise the bar".

Lol... Ok. this got uninteresting. Only in your mind I care about you saying "cool stuff".

Anyway, I'll keep it short this time as you're running in circles.

• If you believe this is a continuation of the past gen, cool. I'll just say time will tell. The evidence is so obvious that it wont that I will not point it out again. Looks like you really, really want it to be that way, but it wont. I already explained why. I'm sorry it gets you so much on your nerves. Oh and don't get me wrong... I enjoy this =)

* Reads the rest of your post *

This is all "argument ad hominem". Nothing that deserves a reply.

Just keep it cool, it's just games. It will be interesting how people like you realize the next generation will be radically different. Just wait and see. Then again, raise the bar on your replies, don't get mad and reply with arguments not rants =)

Peace.

"Lol... Ok. this got uninteresting. "

lol.....but you reply anyway. That's funny.

"Only in your mind I care about you saying "cool stuff"."

Now you are lying to yourself. You quoted me saying "cool stuff" TWICE. You got whiny because you equated "cool stuff" as "minor" and then got snarky claiming I "conveniently summarized". And then got further butthurt when I told you to unwad your panties. Sorry....but they were in fact wadded and they still are. If you can't take it then don't dish it out.

"Looks like you really, really want it to be that way, but it wont. I already explained why. "

lol...you made a prediction that I think has no basis. You trying to channel Aaron Greenberg isn't doing yourself any favors. You are trying to mask the fact that this patch has nothing to do with "main dev platform" nonsense with a grocery list of Xbox features. Phil is so proud, I'm sure.

"Then again, raise the bar on your replies, don't get mad and reply with arguments not rants =)"

Don't get snippy because someone does not lavish something with excessive praise. That's what happened. If you want to pretend you had nothing to do with this conversation going the way it did then fine. You'll make the same mistakes again and point the finger elsewhere. But now I know you are just a walking MS billboard so nothing you say is really of any value anyway. You are not the first I've come across but you are all so hilarious in your tunnel vision views of gaming.

See ya.

Hey Pyro, as it should since the onex came out a year later with more power. Still looks and runs great on my pro. No need to try, I am satisfied with the pro's performance.

@Computersaysno

"virtually the same" and "basically the same" is not the same. Any way you slice it buddy.

Try again, if you even know what you're talking about. In DF video they confirm the One X version is better and show multiple times framerate is better than PS4 Pro. Don't salty just because your piece of plastic doesnt play it as well as another.....even if it is close.

Yes, the 1X version runs at better IQ and better frames. PS4 Pro version dips quite a bit.