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The Road to PS5

PS5 lead system architect Mark Cerny provides a deep dive into PS5’s system architecture and how it will shape the future of games.

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9:00 AM PDT

Jin_Sakai2263d ago

The day is finally here. Can’t wait!

rainslacker2263d ago

I'm taking the option to work from home today. Getting a lot done without all the interruptions from management and other workers. Good thing there is nothing else that could possibly distract me today.:)

solideagle2263d ago (Edited 2263d ago )

My company has already sent all of us to work from home for 2 weeks. I am really excited for PS5, I hope I can afford it this time as I got all my previous Playstations as gifts (PS3 from my previous job hehehe) :D

quick question: is it 1 hour stream?

rainslacker2263d ago

Not sure of the length. But, if it's just the GDC presentation in video form, then chances are that it's an hour. Maybe around the 50 minute mark, as panels are usually that long. Sometimes, if they're keynotes, then they're 90 minutes, but this wasn't the keynote this year. Likely they had this presentation lined up, maybe with a little less flair than they'll do for a public viewing like this, and then a 30-60 minute mingling session where reps would talk with the devs on a more personal level.

This may be a dry presentation since GDC is a dev conference, but it is the official reveal of the PS5, so Sony may spice it up a bit for the consumer market. They've had some time to do that.

darthv722263d ago (Edited 2263d ago )

Cerny speaks so softly... perfect ASMR voice.

USB external storage confirmed.

rainslacker2263d ago (Edited 2263d ago )

@Darth

The 3rd party external drive thing kind of surprised me. But even said yesterday if they allowed it, it would require minimum requirements, and a specific form factor. You were also not expecting it, nor were many people. Not sure if I understood correctly, but sounds like it would replace the current SSD, which didn't make sense since I thought the chips were soldered onto the board. MS approach uses it as an add on to the existing SSD, so you get more space.

Was a pretty dry presentation, as I'd expect. Lot of interesting stuff if you understand the tech he was talking about. I imagine a lot of people won't understand most of what he said about 90% of the tech talk.

Was pretty obvious he's excited about the 3D audio, and while that's cool and all, and took up a good amount of the end of the presentation, it isn't something I'd put a high priority on.

While there was some good info here, especially if you're a dev or really into tech stuff and understand it, I have a feeling this deep dive isn't going to satiate a lot of the annoying, "why aren't they saying anything" criticism they've gotten the past few weeks.

Best part was his explanation of the SSD, and how it could be used to create games. The level design stuff was a perfect way to demonstrate why legacy support for the design of the game is not a good thing if you want to move into next gen.

xX-oldboy-Xx2263d ago

The expandable SSD is m2 form factor but needs to run a little faster than the internal one in the PS5.

Because they only have 2 i/o units instead of 5, which is what the PS5 one has. The extra speed is needed to cover for the lack of chips.

Wrong or right, it just means no proprietary SSD - Yeeehhaawww! That's the first victory of next gen I'd say.

At least I think that's right, started at 3am in Australia and I had few beers after work.

Unspoken2263d ago (Edited 2263d ago )

Already called the SSD situation yesterday, and kudos for PS5 for using that idea, but it's going to be very expensive to use NVME PCIe 4 cards and they don't even have preliminary testing completed. Both are attempting to utilize that space for virtual memory, faster on PS5, much less expensive on Xbox.

Overall a very meh presentation from Cerny.

darthv722263d ago

@above, I believe he said they will have a list of 'officially' supported drives but otherwise if you want to use one not on the list then it must be faster because of the less number of lanes they typically use. Otherwise you know there will be a new round of drives made specifically to be used for this (with all 6 lanes). sony has mandated what the requirements need to be and right now only a few mfg can fit into that. More will likely come though, just as there will likely be other SX branded licensed memory cards and not just those from Seagate.

And rain, the M.2 expansion does not replace the internal surface mount drive. It only adds to it and is specific to PS5 games (meaning you wont be able to use USB for running PS5 games, only to hold them. PS5 requires the SSD or M.2 expansion to run games directly)

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sampsonon2263d ago

People down voted you wanting to see games.
What is the world coming to. Even if they don't show games, which it's Sony so anything is possible, you shouldn't get roasted for it. lol

sushimama2263d ago

@ sampsonon. Dude he's stealth trolling and his comment is setting up his inevitable criticisms that will surely follow Mark Cerny's video. He knows damn well there will not be any games shown. This guy is a black belt in concern trolling, shade throwing and downplaying all things Sony-related.

I'm looking forward to know the specs and some of the cool features that the PS5 will have. Not long now

Nineball21122263d ago

sampsonon, the downvotes might mean that they don't think many or any games will be shown today. Maybe it's just information on the hardware only. (I didn't down vote).

GTgamer2263d ago (Edited 2263d ago )

@samsonon @nineball2112 you guys clearly don't know who the trolls are on this site 😂😂😂

Nineball21122263d ago

GTgamer. You're right and I could be completely wrong.

Donnie812263d ago

Me too! Games games and more games

pwnmaster30002263d ago

Didn’t they literally say this is about the specs and not games.

Stealth trolling like crazy.

MasterCornholio2263d ago (Edited 2263d ago )

It wouldn't be a bad idea to show some games to demonstrate the systems capabilities. However I'm not expecting to see a ton of them. That will be saved for the launch conference.

HZD2 or Bluepoints Benchmark game would probably be great choices.

xX-oldboy-Xx2263d ago

Careful with the 'T' word - isn't very well liked around here. They know what they're doing and it's just pathetic.

Either do it or don't - going about it all sneaky is a clear reflection of them as people.

RedDevils2262d ago

obscure is a bot, he get mad if someone talking shit about the Xbox.

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GTgamer2263d ago (Edited 2263d ago )

http://rebloggy.com/post/i-... can't even lie been waiting for this forever

AnubisG2263d ago

And how dissapointed are you now?

GTgamer2263d ago

@AnubisG i ain't gonna lie I am very disappointed I didn't care about the specs I just really thought we would see something a tech demo the controller the console anythinggggggggggggg

AnubisG2263d ago (Edited 2263d ago )

It wasn't worth the excitement and wait. This was meant for developers, not gamers. It was so borring that I regret forcing myself watching it. I was hoping for a tech demo at least. But nothing.

Sony should be ashamed. The way they communicate their next gen system is horrible. While MS has show the system, the controller and even games. What exactly is Sony waiting for?

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solideagle2263d ago (Edited 2263d ago )

10.28 TFLOPS hmmm not sure why didn't he calculate TFLOPS at 3.5 GHz...

StoneyYoshi2263d ago

Maybe he was strictly talking about gpu Tflops and not a combined amount with the GPU and CPU?

rainslacker2263d ago

Because they lock the GPU at 2.33GHZ. HIs stated reason was to keep performance consistent since they're using variable frequencies to reduce power needs. There were a few points in this presentation where it wasn't clear if something he said was for explanation, or as an absolute. That was one of them, but from what I took from it was that that 2.33GHZ is the max. I imagine follow up interviews will clarify things. This is just how Cerny presentations go most of the time.

Kyizen2263d ago

Agree while most stuff will run at 2.3 for Marketing they could use rhe max overclock of 3.5 GHz to calculate and it wouldnt be wrong.

SyntheticForm2263d ago

Yes! As this reveal nears I feel more and more like a kid. Genuine over-the-top excitement.

AnubisG2263d ago

And than, dissapointment.....

-Ghost2263d ago (Edited 2263d ago )

One hour to go! Looking forward to hearing what Mark Cerny will reveal. The video is 52 minutes.

Good-Smurf2263d ago (Edited 2263d ago )

Starts at 11:00 PM here 56 minutes to go!

SyntheticForm2263d ago

Who's a good smurf? You! You're such a good smurf.

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Take-Two CEO Once Again Side Steps Grand Theft Auto 6 Price Point

Strauss Zelnick says price of GTA 6 is being carefully considered and that Rockstar is focused on "making the most spectacular piece of entertainment on Earth."

Kuma30d ago

If GTA 6 abandons everything that made GTA 5 great, it will crash and burn right out of the gate. GTA 5 was funny and not at all PC. My worry is that they will cave to the PC crowd and ruin the vibes.

Eonjay30d ago

They got freaking BBLs twerking on the top of trucks for the gram, the freaking Flordia joker, and dude running down the stree in their undies and you are worried about it being 'too PC'? The internet has runied gamers. It doesn't matter how non-PC they make the game, you will all listen to the grifters telling you not to believe your lying eyes lol.

gigoran830d ago

"Rockstar Games’ co-founder and former VP of Development Jamie King said he envisions GTA 6 as a game that’s “maybe not quite as edgy or quite as funny” as its satirical predecessors."

oh yeah, totally internet grifters spreading rumors...

blacktiger30d ago

That's part of the plan, they destroyed you but they need to destroy the shareholders? Only 1 shre holder is the true elite that don't care

1nsomniac30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

Meh.., if it’s above £55 I ain’t buying it.

Rockstar are genuinely not half the company they used to be. I was a die hard GTA fan I’ve purchased every game and expansion and spin off day 1.

My opinion of GTA6 is that I can take it or leave it. Not bothered. They burnt too many bridges.

DaReapa30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

So they're actually leaving the door open for an L.A. Noire sequel? Nice!

VaNdAl30d ago (Edited 30d ago )

He should just come out and say it already it's getting stupid it's going to be a 100 bucks $200 for the special edition🤡🤡; 29315;🤣♿

Storm2330d ago

I won't be getting this game until I can get it for $70. SHoot, I could wait for it to be even lower. I don't need the game that badly as my backlog is still huge and I am enjoying playing other things.

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Talking Aliens: The Video Games With Author Mike Diver

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay31d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn232d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn231d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown32d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay31d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay31d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac31d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger32d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300032d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde32d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood32d ago (Edited 32d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde31d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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