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Why Microsoft Shouldn’t Underestimate Sony Next-Gen

Considering the Xbox's place in the current generation, Microsoft shouldn't keep its eyes off Sony or Nintendo just yet.

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Jin_Sakai2282d ago

Never underestimate the power of PlayStation. The PS5 reveal will crash the internet. Can’t wait to see some 1st party games in action running in PS5.

lifeisgamesok2282d ago

I'm trying to be patient but I'm so ready to start seeing these new PS5 games :D

I have a feeling the PS5 reveal will be a big showing and we'll be very impressed

pwnmaster30002280d ago

Microsoft is not underestimating Sony. It’s gaming journalist that’s underestimating Sony and creating a narrative that Microsoft is underestimating Sony.

FanboysKiller2280d ago (Edited 2280d ago )

No no no , it's the media critics who controls the narrative, look at killzone shadow fall "even though I'm an xbox guy" back in 2013 and now ,there is a huge difference when you praise the game now and then, in 2013 if you praised it you'll receive a backlash from the media for no logical reason but now it's understandable. I really hate when they rate the games and call it just a number.

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silenthillstrangler2280d ago

Always tempter your expectations, even if it is a powerhouse the first gen games usually aren't that mind blowing.

leejohnson2222280d ago

You say that and it's true to a degree but I was really impressed with killzone shadow fall with PS4 launch. I do always hate how sparse and limited launch line ups are. I wish they had enough games that I had a hard time deciding what title to buy first

hardcorehippiez2280d ago

I have a sneeking suspicion that theyre going to reveal a new socom on ps5.Theyre latest add is sort of throwing out them vibes . If that happens well the internet will most certainly explode.

leejohnson2222280d ago

I just can't see any monumental shift in install base at this point, hardcore xb fans will always be loyal but the numbers won't change dramatically from this gen in my view. Sony seem to always cater to a wide audience and have something for everyone. They gamble on very small niche games as well as having huge exclusive titles

CorndogBurglar2280d ago (Edited 2280d ago )

That's all true. But the big reason why the install base won't suddenly shift to Xbox at launch is because people just don't trust Xbox yet.

They drove off a ton of their fans when they announced the Xbox One, and they did literally nothing to win those fans back. Sure they started buying game companies, but we haven't even started seeing or hearing about any games those companies are making for Xbox. And let's not forget that MS already said they won't be releasing any Xbox X exclusives for the first year...

It's going to take a while for MS to win back any meaningful amount of their old player base. And assuming they do everything right, it will likely take half this new gen (at least) before people start going back. By then Sony will be far ahead of them.

If MS is going to start being real competition that is on level with Sony, it won't start until the 10th gen. Because they have to spend this gen winning people back. If they can.

badz1492280d ago

So...what the article is saying is, the big loser of this gen shouldn't underestimate the big winner this gen and the one who is selling the most consoles in the history of the industry?

Wow...where did these journalist get their brain from?

SyntheticForm2280d ago

These headlines lately are so silly and downright dumb. "Why Microsoft shouldn't underestimate Sony." Well, no one should underestimate anyone.

I don't think Microsoft are competing with Sony just as I don't think Nintendo are competing with anyone - they're doing their own thing. Now, this doesn't mean that these companies aren't each other's competition because they are, but again, they all have their own way of doing things but I digress.

This headline is dumb, and I'm sure the article doesn't fare any better.

CorndogBurglar2279d ago

Yeah.......that doesn't make sense. How can they not be competing with each other, but be each other's competition?

They all want to be the company that is selling the most consoles. Because, as a company, you want to sell as much of your products as possible. That's only natural.

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FallenAngel19842282d ago

PlayStation has beaten Xbox every generation. It’d be beyond foolish to underestimate them, especially since Sony’s brand has more global appeal than Microsoft’s.

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Orionsangel2280d ago (Edited 2280d ago )

In sales, but not in relevance. The 360 was the most relevant console of it's gen. So much so that PS3 started copying what the 360 was doing. Trophies copying Achievements. Sending voice messages on XBL. PS3 couldn't do that for the longest time. PSN lagged behind XBL. XBL was the place to be. Where all the cool kids were and you know this. Somehow Sony fanboys forget the terrible PS3 launch and how it played catch up most of that generation. So don't downplay it because you're so loyal to a brand. Be honest. I don't celebrate corporations getting richer. I celebrate the console that gave me the most bang for my buck. That was the 360 and I owned both 360 and PS3. Don't get me wrong either. I love the PS3, but I can step back and be honest and objective here since I don't ever own just one console every gen that I feel I must protect at all cost.

TheTony3162280d ago (Edited 2280d ago )

The 360 was mostly irrelevant outside of the US and maybe the UK. Same with the OG Xbox and Xbone.

remixx1162280d ago (Edited 2280d ago )

"where all the cool kids were at" is perhaps the dumbest shit I've read in a while.

I hope you know making up fake metrics like "in relevance" just sounds stupid. As a corporation you win in sales and brand recognition which pretty much equals relevance. That is where Sony won and taking good ideas from the competition that help generate profit while combining them with your own ideas is just smart business. I mean didn't MS slap a blue ray player into their next console...you know they pay BDA which Sony is a part of for that.

I had 2 360s last gen and both became door stoppers due to ROD so I don't wanna hear anything about "bang for your buck". Also if your going to talk about ps3s "terrible launch" and how it played catch up then maybe you should mention how it launched a year later as well as at a higher price and stayed more expensive the whole gen yet still outsold xbox...also 360s launch streak of bricked consoles is no where near pretty in fact it's even uglier than ps3s launch.

Since we're talking bang for your buck, didn't Microsoft heavily cut exclusive release for the 360 during it's last 3 years while Sony supported PS3 with exclusives till the day the PS4 dropped. Hell PS3 had 8 big releases in 2013 alone with tlou and grab Turismo being 2 of them.

You dirt fling the word fanboy and claim objectivity but c'mon bro your comment is riddled with bias...real pot kettle black

"Where all the cool kids were at" lol this shit was so funny to read I can't believe someone actually typed this.

DarXyde2280d ago

Owning every console doesn't make you objective. You can easily own one because you made the objective assessment that it is not worth it to own both. Everyone has preferences.

Sure, PS3 was functionally behind in some respects. Likewise, Xbox 360 didn't support HDMI until the hardware was revised. Xbox didn't have Games with Gold until Sony made Plus. Xbox didn't allow for software installs on Xbox 360 until Playstation made that standard.

In terms of hardware engineering, Sony is remarkably solid, and Xbox trails them. In terms of network features, Xbox has been pretty solid and Sony still has work to do.

Clearly, both have their strengths, but I wholeheartedly disagree that Xbox 360 was the most relevant console of its generation. In the beginning, sure. That's hard to dispute. But really, once Sony got things into full swing, it never stopped.

Orionsangel2280d ago (Edited 2280d ago )

@TheTony316 You guys have bad memories or choose to remember it a certain way. Yes, where all the cool kids were at is an expression. Xbox Live ruled for online gaming in that era. It's a fact no one can deny unless you're in denial. PSN was not that great for online gaming during that era.

@remixx1116 Even something like the RROD which hurt MS at the time financially was good press. Everyone was talking about the 360. It became memes. I'm not saying the PS3 didn't eventually become relevant that gen, but when most think back to that era in terms of press coverage, online gaming, message boards and being a phenomenon. That was the Xbox 360 back then. I'm talking U.S. only of course.

I know most of you want MS to fail, but you can't always be biased arrogant Sony fanboys. You gotta be honest once in a while give credit where credit is due. For example I say, Sony has owned this current generation completely. Both in relevance and sales.

remixx1162280d ago (Edited 2280d ago )

@orion

When did I say I wanted Microsoft to fail, you seem to have a projection issue.

You keep flinging around the word fanboy yet your the biggest fanboy clown in this thread stop claiming your being object cuz your camouflage ain't working.

You ever see something so stupid it offends you? Like when you go to the grocery store and see someone left hamburger meat on the cereal aisle next to the frosted flakes, your like damn what lazy idiot did this?? That's your comments. You are the hamburger left on the cereal aisle guy.

I mean hell you actually just typed that ROD was good press, like who thinks that?? That was probably one of MS biggest regrets regarding Xbox hands down. You are on a roll with these dumb statements. Also there you go creating metrics again lol "US only" as if that's the only place in the world that matters...no it's the only place you could think of where your favorite box was most relevant.

Lastly you choose to talk about "choosing to remember things a certain way" yet that's all you've been doing to try and push your narrative. Not to mention aren't you a gamer? Shouldn't which company delivered the best on games quality and quantity be what's most important to you not which was most talked about in your home town. That clearly shows your a fanboy for Xbox. Throughout this entire discussion you haven't once mentioned the subpar offerings from MS this gem and last gen in comparison to sony and ninty. Fake promises, 3rd party deals, cancelled games and over reliance on the same 3 franchises for well over a decade doesn't make a great customer product.

Last question, why didn't you reply to datkxyde who punched a hole in one of your metrics?

WillyC0092280d ago

@Orionsangel

Lol I’m hoping this is satire? Please me satire....how can some people be so foolish and oblivious to reality?

Orionsangel2280d ago

@remixx116 My opinions shouldn't offending you. It's just my take on it. I had a better experience with the Xbox 360 and I saw it as more relevant at the time. All my online friends were on XBL. It was like a party over there and PSN seemed like an old folks home.

@Darxyde "Clearly, both have their strengths, but I wholeheartedly disagree that Xbox 360 was the most relevant console of its generation. In the beginning, sure"

I kind of agree with most of what he said and he kind of agrees with me. I can meet in the middle. He's right the hardware engineering Sony had was remarkably solid, but unfortunately the cell processor made it harder to develop games for PS3.

I fling the word fanboy around because some of you are fanboys. For some of you Sony can do no wrong. It gets to be too much how you put down MS and arrogantly brag about Sony. Why can't we love both consoles?

@WillyC009 How can someone be so arrogant? You're getting worked up over opinions.

remixx1162280d ago (Edited 2280d ago )

@orion

You are right we can love both. It's just a piece of plastic and I judge each one individually. Ps2 was great, Xbox was great, PS3 was great, 360 wasn't very good, PS4 has been great, Xbox one has once again not been very good. MS is shaping up to have a great next gen so we can only wait and see.

Sony can definitely do plenty of wrong, (April 2012 anyone) but still overall they have done amazingly for me as a consumer. The 360 though was one of the most sour spots in my gaming history. 2 bricked consoles and a piss poor final 3 years was just a no go for me.

Also I had plenty of friends on PS3. Saying it felt like an old folks home sounds incredibly disingenuous and us a bit of a faux narrative

rainslacker2280d ago

How does one measure relevance? Because as I see it, at best, MS can be said to have been as relevant as Sony last gen. Sony had more games than MS did, and had almost all the same games MS did, excluding 1st party stuff. Sony had significantly more games that MS didn't have though. NIntendo sold more, and had more software than both, and had publishers making games for it all gen.

I'm curious how you actually measure relevance, because it seems like an arbitrary thing to rate, and about the only way one could measure relevance would be in sales versus the perception in the market. Sales, Sony still won, Nintendo beat both. Perception, I think both PS3 and 360 were seen as completely viable options to the consumer at large, and neither really had a significant advantage over the other there.

Features don't really make a console relevant. I mean, Sony isn't more or less relevant this gen because they were the first to do game streaming built into the core of the system. it's just a feature.

DJStotty2277d ago

Got too admit i still have my 360, it was the place to play at the time, but somehow the Microsoft suits lost sight of that.

Thankfully with Phil and Co at the helm, xbox is starting to get back to the place to play and i am looking for more details on the Series X (mainly the cost)

Orionsangel2277d ago

@rainslacker

I measure relevance by popularity. What everyone is talking about in the media and social media and between friends. I'm not saying that PS3 didn't have that either, but Xbox 360 set the foundation for that gen with Xbox Live. It was the place to be. The most sales don't mean anything to me. You can sell the most but it doesn't mean you're the best or most relevant. It means people bought something the most, but did they enjoy what they bought? Did they play it a lot? We can't measure that. We can measure the party going on in Xbox Live. It was an EPIC glorious time for gaming with Xbox Live. PSN was a lonely place. You one console owners will never know. Today though things are different. I admit that. PS4 dominates this gen in every way.

Orionsangel2277d ago

@DJStotty gets it.

While arrogant Sony fanboys don't wanna give MS credit for anything. So much resentment towards MS.

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tinchotin2280d ago

Don't underestimate Xbox foolishness. They never disappoint.

Zeref2277d ago (Edited 2277d ago )

They didn't beat 360 lastgen. Yes they caught up eventually by a million or two but by that time the gen was already over, besides the 360 was overall the best system even when you don't consider sales.

It had party chat, Achievements, Best UI, Best controller, reasonable price,
Best 1st party game quality, best graphics and best online infrastructure.

Sony had to copy half of that before people started considering playstation again.

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Thundercat772282d ago (Edited 2282d ago )

Microsoft is not underestimating Sony and Nintendo. They just cannot compete against them so they have moved their goalpost in order to look not so bad.

For Xbox, It is better to report how many zombies have been killed than actual sales.

It is better to be compared to Google and Amazon in gaming than being compared to Sony and Nintendo. I know is pathetic but that's how Microsoft deals with its situation.

Orionsangel2280d ago (Edited 2280d ago )

"599 U.S. dollars" What seemed outrageous to gamers in 2006 is now gonna be the norm in 2020. $599 for the unit itself with 2tb and one controller. Bundled for $699.

rainslacker2280d ago

And the $499 launch PS3 was outrageous as well? What does that make the $499 OGX1 and the X1X?

You're spreading a narrative that was disingenuous even at the time to make an argument now. It's not really helping your argument.

I think it would be more prudent to wait until the prices are revealed before trying to state fact to discredit Thundercat's argument.

Orionsangel2280d ago

@rainslacker It's just a prediction. It's fun to speculate.

TheSaint2280d ago

ANd I get paid more than I did in 2006, it's called inflation.

CaptainCook2282d ago

Why are you comparing them both when they haven't fully announced the specs?

Orionsangel2280d ago

Because Sony fanboys are arrogantly resentful towards MS and want Sony to rule the world. They want fewer choices apparently.

Einhander19712280d ago

The trouble is MS don't give us more different choices to choose Xbox over Playstation. If there were more amazing exclusives on Xbox I would own one.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio14d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing14d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9214d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit14d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing14d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9214d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Take-Two CEO Once Again Side Steps Grand Theft Auto 6 Price Point

Strauss Zelnick says price of GTA 6 is being carefully considered and that Rockstar is focused on "making the most spectacular piece of entertainment on Earth."

Kuma14d ago

If GTA 6 abandons everything that made GTA 5 great, it will crash and burn right out of the gate. GTA 5 was funny and not at all PC. My worry is that they will cave to the PC crowd and ruin the vibes.

Eonjay14d ago

They got freaking BBLs twerking on the top of trucks for the gram, the freaking Flordia joker, and dude running down the stree in their undies and you are worried about it being 'too PC'? The internet has runied gamers. It doesn't matter how non-PC they make the game, you will all listen to the grifters telling you not to believe your lying eyes lol.

gigoran814d ago

"Rockstar Games’ co-founder and former VP of Development Jamie King said he envisions GTA 6 as a game that’s “maybe not quite as edgy or quite as funny” as its satirical predecessors."

oh yeah, totally internet grifters spreading rumors...

blacktiger14d ago

That's part of the plan, they destroyed you but they need to destroy the shareholders? Only 1 shre holder is the true elite that don't care

1nsomniac14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

Meh.., if it’s above £55 I ain’t buying it.

Rockstar are genuinely not half the company they used to be. I was a die hard GTA fan I’ve purchased every game and expansion and spin off day 1.

My opinion of GTA6 is that I can take it or leave it. Not bothered. They burnt too many bridges.

DaReapa14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

So they're actually leaving the door open for an L.A. Noire sequel? Nice!

VaNdAl14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

He should just come out and say it already it's getting stupid it's going to be a 100 bucks $200 for the special edition🤡🤡; 29315;🤣♿

Storm2314d ago

I won't be getting this game until I can get it for $70. SHoot, I could wait for it to be even lower. I don't need the game that badly as my backlog is still huge and I am enjoying playing other things.

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Steam Controller (2026) review

Second time's the charm.

cl198315d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Seams like a nice controller

Reaper22_14d ago

Two analog sticks acrossvftom each other is a no go.When will everyone learn.