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Why don't you like Xbox?

Xbox is like redbull in F1; they have the cash to (never really die and to) brute force their way into an industry, buy up notable talent, market themselves into a household name. What prospect is there under the sun they’d ever invest in a project like Souls [or Death Stranding, Octopath, Scalebound!] on the merits of the concept [though they might wait around for it to become popular before buying it up and shitting it back out]

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darthv722295d ago (Edited 2295d ago )

Some may say it was the timing of their entry but then i am reminded of when sony burst onto the gaming scene and the amount of disdain many showed because they felt this... 'outsider' was infringing on the likes of nintendo and Sega. "What right do they have to be making a console?" was the thought process at the time. But they changed a lot of peoples mindsets and has become one of (if not the) biggest in the industry.

MS is a software company, predominantly in the PC world but their hand in gaming extends far back to the days of the MSX. They always considered the market (video games) small and not worth the effort but things changed over the years. They too have a right to be in this industry despite what some may feel. They provide the backbone of many things people take for granted like various coding patents that companies use to help build that which we see and hear and feel on the screen.

I get there is an animocity towards MS because of their $$ they have but like the piece alludes to. They could just buy up everything but they dont. They have respect for those who worked their way up and have been trying to do the same without having to resort to buying everything up. They make deals where they can but usually those deals (for timed content) dont infringing on others who want to make the same deals. It's like MS is trying to be fair and not totalitarian. There are some really good people who work to try and right the wrong that people have for the overall image of MS but it can be hard when people still view them as evil.

Many dont know how to separate things into context. I may not care for the corporate side of MS (the ones making the decisions to cancel this or close down that studio) but I totally respect the gaming side of MS that is trying to bring about positive change in the hobby we all play. Change to bring more gamers together and providing options on how a person goes about playing, be in where to play or helping them play due to a disability. I think they get a bad rep because their view of things outside of gaming and how they handle being open (or closed) to ideas that can have an effect on their bottom line. No company is without that fault.

As for their timing to enter the hobby... sometimes you just have to jump at an opportunity when it presents itself. Sony took the chance after a failed deal with Nintendo. MS decided to be the one to fill in for Sega.

isarai2295d ago

You can't seriously believe that...

Dovergamer2293d ago

Isarai:

"You can't seriously believe that..."

Isarai, that individual is a bounty account. What you said is true. He doesn't believe in a single word he typed.

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isarai2293d ago

@L7CHAPEL

WTF are you on about? and who are you quoting? For someone getting on other people about "basic common logic" you sure don't get the "basic common logic" on how quotations are used.

CaptainObvious8782294d ago (Edited 2294d ago )

It has nothing to do with timing and nothing to do with how much money they have, but what they do with that money.

My disdain for ms started all the way back in 2001 when Munch's Odyssey was released. I played the previous 2 games on my PS1. I absolutely feel in love with these games and was eagerly anticipating Munch's Odyssey for the PS2. But MS through their cheque book around and blocked it from releasing on the PS2. And that was the start of a long long long line of greedy, monopolistic and anti-consumer behaviour from MS.

And that's not including MS rushing the 360 out before it was finished, resulting is wide spread RRoD, that's not including all the timed exclusives they blocked coming to competing platform (not actually creating their own content, just restricting existing content about to be released), that's not even including their original vision for the xbone that would have literally, and this is not hyperbole is any way, destroyed my beloved console gaming as we know it.

So no Darth, it has nothing with what you mentioned. It has everyone to do with a long history of demonstrable, tangle anti-consumer policies that are designed to extract the maximum amount of money from their consumers.

nucky642294d ago

wow. you are wrong on so many points.

rainslacker2294d ago

Difference is, it didn't take long for Sony to gain respect among the consumer, and they didn't go an entire generation with people saying how they were an outsider and had no right to be there.

MS, OTOH, gained respect last gen, then threw it all away, and then failed in so many ways this gen, and the people criticizing them aren't all just being stupid, but making criticisms that go well beyond, "Who do they think they are to think they have a place in the gaming industry."

Sony worked to get respect. MS demands respect, but spent years not doing much to earn it.

outsider16242294d ago

You know..i almost agree with you until "They could just buy up everything but they dont. They have respect for those who worked their way up and have been trying to do the same without having to resort to buying everything up..."

Ridiculous! And you actually believe that..

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Thundercat772295d ago

Xbox doesn't have the passion for games as Sony and Nintendo. They have tried to manipulate and control the market with horrible anticonsumer tactics. They don't invest in different style of games as Sony and Nintendo. Microsoft is very arrogant and if left uncheck, they will try to dictate how we game.

But competition in the market is important too.

2pacalypsenow2294d ago (Edited 2294d ago )

Perfect example the launch of the Xbox One.

343_Guilty_Spark2294d ago

Sony 1st party has hack n slash and B-rated "emotional" 3rd person games, content creation. No RTS, no simulators, no flagship 1st person shooter, no Metroidvanias, etc
Etc.

I'd argue there is more diversity on Xbox and PS but the execution is not always as good as PS.

Nintendo makes the pure gameplay experiences.

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mkis0072294d ago

You wear your ignorance on your sleeve. No simulators he says ( Gran Tourismo)... All 3rd person games are the same he says (ya Uncharted, Infamous, and God of War are all the same...suuuuure! No Metroidvania's he says ( the most hilarious of claims) (God of War ).
Please tell me what Xbox puts up to compete with those?

You should probably quit while you're behind.

ps: Killzone also satisfies your fps requirement whether your a fan or not.

2pacalypsenow2294d ago (Edited 2294d ago )

What do you call Gran Turismo Sport and Killzone?

You might call them B rated emotional games, while the rest of the world love them and they win Games of the year..

rainslacker2294d ago

"I'd argue there is more diversity on Xbox and PS but the execution is not always as good as PS."

Yeah....you would argue that. Too bad your first sentence is a huge generalization that isn't completely accurate.

Rachel_Alucard2294d ago

RTS died as a genre and RTS on console is like trying to play WoW on a controller. Besides Xbox has nothing else outside of that small list.

BeOpenMinded2294d ago

PC ports and strategy games are big for me too. I love the integration w PC gaming recently

FinalFantasyFanatic2294d ago

You pretty much only have RTS games on PC now, I can't remember the last time I played an RTS on console (it was never really a thing as far as I can remember).

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The Wood2294d ago (Edited 2294d ago )

Another hollow comment driven by hurt feelings. How can you compare that genres both compete in with so little facts. A little research would of stopped you from spewing such drivel

TKCMuzzer2294d ago

Sometimes you prove what we already know, you know absolutely nothing about the subject your commenting on.

Dragonscale2294d ago (Edited 2294d ago )

And that right there is exactly why xbox will never become the dominant platform, so small minded and ignorant. Currently pretty much every xbox exclusive is b-rated fgs. Sony have had a boatload of goty contenders this gen, xbox not so much lol.

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Rachel_Alucard2294d ago

Microsoft are the ones who marketed the idea of cutting up expansion content and selling it back to consumers in small fees to make more money. That alone tells me how much they valued quality over quantity. Now everyone does it.

mkis0072294d ago

This is close to how I feel. Gamepass is cool now, but making AAA games available day 1 for $1 isn't sustainable( I've had a total of 12 months now for less than $15); their road map will inevitably lead to smaller games and lean heavily on multiplayer. I want gaming to go in the opposite direction. I want bigger stories, huge worlds, and repeatable games with alternate story-lines.

NeoGamer2322293d ago

I don't think any company can be trusted. And every company uses questionable consumer tactics. Thinking that some companies are angels and others are demons is exactly what the companies try to do to each other. Marketing is exactly like politics. Demonize your opponent, make it look like you are a saint.

Your comment about game styles is subjective. Typically, I feel there are more RTS and PC type RPGs on XB then on PS for example. But, there are more Japanese style games on PS and Nintendo. It is more about the kind of games you are looking for to me. I have all the consoles and they all have pros and cons on content.

Personally, the worst thing I saw this generation was the rise of shovelware through indies this generation. Everyone was talking about indie creativity, now 90% of all indie games are just a bunch of repetitive junk. I preferred the days when consoles brought proven and successful indie games in rather then anything that anyone could make in a week. Also, the shovelware devalues gamer profiles. Gamers are racking up achievements and trophies at epic rates because of 1-5 hour indie games.

rainslacker2293d ago

I trust any company in as much as I believe theyll release the products I want without trying to completely screw me over. I know theyll always try to think of ways to make more money, but as long as they dont go overboard with ruining what I want from them, it doesn't bother me much. If Sony started pulling EA levels of stupidity, then I'd not be so keen to purchase their hardware. Even MS hasn't been as bad as EA since they reversed the DRM. But I don't generally criticize MS over microtransactions topics since I dont buy them regardless of platform.

Dovergamer2293d ago

Thundercat77:

This man gets it. In simple and plain words he explains why people prefers Sony over Microsoft.

"Xbox doesn't have the passion for games as Sony and Nintendo. They have tried to manipulate and control the market with horrible anticonsumer tactics. They don't invest in different style of games as Sony and Nintendo. Microsoft is very arrogant and if left uncheck, they will try to dictate how we game."

I can't say it better. Xbox gives you less for more money while Sony gives you more value for your money and time. People will choose the company that delivers and serves the exclusive games and the company that proves their delivery with concrete actions rather than empty words. Sony proved themselves since the PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4. We are sure that we will see more of the same on such great delivery of exclusives and variety of games.

The basic logic applies. Microsoft is a software company that believes in the sales of services. Sony is a hardware company that believes in the sale of video games so their hardware sell. Those fundamental facts differentiate the quality of the product, the purpose and the target audience. Sony and Nintendo are the ones serving such purposes.

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Automatic792295d ago

I am an Xbox guy primarily but own Nintendo Switch and PS. I love the games on Xbox and all my friends play on Xbox. Xbox Live is still the best online service to this day. Overall, all have strengths and weaknesses but Xbox will always be were I enjoy my games.

Rimeskeem2295d ago

There is no objective proof that Xbox Live is the best online service.

2pacalypsenow2294d ago

What are the benefits of Xbox Live over PS+?

I play on both, and nothing tells me “this is why Xbox live is better”

Rachel_Alucard2294d ago

I see marketing has influenced your opinion.

Kiwi662294d ago

They are pretty much even

RazzerRedux2294d ago

"I am an Xbox guy "

Yes....we know.

ILostMyMind2294d ago (Edited 2294d ago )

I can only desagree with "Xbox Live is still the best online service"... this is just your opinion. The rest is just your choice. Enjoy.

Dovergamer2293d ago

"I am an Xbox guy primarily but own Nintendo Switch and PS. I love the games on Xbox and all my friends play on Xbox. Xbox Live is still the best online service to this day. Overall, all have strengths and weaknesses but Xbox will always be were I enjoy my games."

Fair.

This is why I enjoy the PS4: Reasons.

Horizon Zero Dawn.
Bloodborne.
Uncharted.
Last of Us.
God of War IV.
Spider Man.
Dreams.
Death Stranding.
Last of Us 2. (To be released)
Ghost of Tsushima. (To be released)
Spider Man.
Shadows of the Colossus.

See? I have reasons. You never mentioned a single game on your console. Do you know why? Because you have no single top quality exclusive game at the stature of those games. We have the multi platforms, the indie games and the exclusives.

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isarai2295d ago

The main reason is exclusives, they've been lacking since around the Kinect release by a rather large margin in terms of both quality and especially quantity compared to the competition. Second is the faults, focus on kinect, RROD, always online attempt, have to buy kinect bundle, no games taking full advantage of new hardware for 2yrs etc there just always seems to be something that really urks me. I love OG Xbox and the first few years of the 360, but since then the competition just doesn't leave me personally with enough reason to justify the purchase of an xbox console.

343_Guilty_Spark2294d ago

So why are the top games on PS4 third party multi platform games?

isarai2294d ago

What does that have to do with anything i said?

Rachel_Alucard2294d ago

You literally can write that exact sentence for Xbox one right now. I see Fortnite, GTAV, Modern warfare, etc.

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nucky642294d ago

so why is PS outselling MS 2:1 (and much worse over multiple gens)?

Ninver2294d ago

You must be talking sale. In terms of quality and highest rated games, ps4 exclusives hold the crown.

CaptainObvious8782294d ago

For the same reason millions of casuals bought the wii.

You think just because millions of dude bros buy cod every year I had any less fun playing the Shadow of the Colossus remaster?

mkis0072294d ago

hint hint: multi-platform ( they don't factor into which console we like more because they are available on everything)

When MS releases something worthy of recognition on stage at the BAFTAS or DICE or any major awards ceremony: I'll be there playing it.

2pacalypsenow2294d ago (Edited 2294d ago )

Top games? Or Top selling games.

Two different things.

How many copies has Halo 5 and Forza 7 sold compared to COD, Grand Theft Auto, RDR etc...

I can guarantee you that GT Sport outsold forza even though Forza was much better rated.

Chevalier2294d ago (Edited 2294d ago )

Top all time based on sales 2 of the top 10 are 1st party on PS4. That's 20 percent 1st party to 80 percent 3rd as they produce the most games. Whereas Xbox had ZERO 1st party and is 10 for 10 3rd party. Xbox fails hard in sales 1st party somehow makes you think otherwise when factually top 2 selling consoles have the most exclusives and most diverse content and diversified fanbase

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kingcorey2293d ago

Why are ps exclusives rated so highly compared to xbox exclusives? What xbox exclusives have you played this gen? The only ones id consider amazing are ori, cuphead, forza horizon, and gears.. Halo was a huge letdown, crackdown was trash.. Meanwhile on playstation iv just been amazed the entire gen.. Starting with zillzone shadowfall.. The graphics were insane at the time, then with bloodborne, then the order, untildawn, infamous, rachet and clank.. uncharted 4, horizon zero dawn, gtsport then came vr... With the most livingroom fun me my friends and family have had sence rockband.. Then detroit.. Then uncharted lost legacy..Then spiderman.. Then god of war... Then days gone.. And we still have ghosts of tushima and the last of us 2 comming.. Xbox has been absolutely crushed this gen..

rainslacker2293d ago

Why does sony have more games that surpassed 10 million sales this gen than every publisher that isnt ea or ubisoft, and maybe 2K this gen? And that's on one platform. Give you one guess how many games MS has had this gen that have surpassed 10 million.

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Microsoft Gaming Revenue Drops 7% Year-on-Year, Content and Services Down 5%, Xbox Hardware Down 33%

Microsoft announced its financial results for Q3 of fiscal year 2026, including an update on its gaming Xbox business and more.

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Jin_Sakai22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Not looking good. Hopefully Asha Sharma is able to turn Phil’s disaster around.

dveio22d ago

To me it's still quite remarkable how they can cash-in 5.3bn in revenue in a single quarter, since their hardware is basically dead.

Jingsing22d ago

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Tanktopmaster9222d ago

Once they re-evaluate exclusive all will be fine….

S2Killinit22d ago

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

Jingsing22d ago

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Tanktopmaster9222d ago

These declines are on the back of extra revenue received from releasing games like Forza horizon 5 on PlayStation. So I’m being sarcastic here when I said they should go back to exclusives. Killing off a revenue stream from Ps5 sales will only make things worse

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Spiders Studio, Developers of GreedFall: The Dying World, Announce Liquidation of the Company

Spiders: "We're going to cut straight to the chase so you're not left wondering: After a long period without clear answers, we have received confirmation that Spiders is being liquidated.

What does it mean? This means the company as a whole no longer exists. We'll cease our functions immediately. The planned DLC will release via Nacon, and then-- well, that's it.

We're sorry that it's come to this and would like to thank each and every one of you for your support over the years.

If you have any questions or run into issues with your games, please contact Nacon directly as we'll no longer be able to reply."

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Steam Controller (2026) review

Second time's the charm.

cl198323d ago (Edited 23d ago )

Seams like a nice controller

Reaper22_22d ago

Two analog sticks acrossvftom each other is a no go.When will everyone learn.