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Why Destiny 2 Can't Keep Fans Engaged

Guest SayNoToRage and the Fireteam Chat crew discuss the lack of engagement during Destiny 2's Season of Dawn and why the most hardcore players seem to be playing less than ever before.

grifter0242307d ago

Bungee captured lightning in a bottle with Halo. Since then they've shown they are a overhyped dev team.

Saijahn2307d ago

Facts. Everyone thought it was activision that was the issue. They got their independence and been wetting the bed ever since

Thunder_G0d_Bane2307d ago

You're talking crap, they got their independence near the end of life of D2, you have to wait until D3 to see the rewards of their independence its too late to change D2 from the ground up.

Forn2307d ago

Bungie isn't the same studio they were because a lot of figure heads have left.

Thunder_G0d_Bane2307d ago

They also caught lightning in a bottle with Destiny, thats why so many games copied their formula afterwards, The Division, Anthem and The Avengers all copying Destiny formula. They started a new genre with Destiny.

AnubisG2307d ago

I agree with this but they keep messing up and Activision wasn't the issue. Just look at this season.....absolute and utter garbage. The one before was just ok. Oh and Activision did not say that it's hard for them to come up with new content, that was said by Bungie employees.

Fritzwochel2307d ago

Destiny was awesome in so many ways, I miss it <3 Played it until the D2 release. Then played D2 a couple of months and got bored.

TK-662306d ago

Um, Destiny didn't create an all new genre. The formula you're referencing has been used in MMO's years before Destiny was even properly revealed. Also, a lot of the "formula" used made the same mistakes that other developers had made like with LOTRO. Bungie had absolutely no idea what they were doing and the only reason Destiny succeeded was because of hype, budget, and a huge ass marketing deal.

Destiny is not in any way distinctive enough to be considered a new genre. What you're thinking of is MMO's, and they existed long before Destiny.

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jjb19812307d ago

I'm disappointed by the season passes. The rewards are not that great. I still love playing with friends and doing the Raids but the solo content is just waaaaay to grindy. Some catalysts are like 200-400 strikes or similar activities. That's harsh. Because of all the whining the community did, they cranked up the grind-o-meter to the max. Recycling the moon was a slap in the face. The power system is garbage. The armor overhaul is trash. The new exotics are rubbish. It's sad when the community is happy from recycled exotics from D1.

NealGamby2307d ago (Edited 2307d ago )

I already know why. For me, it's because they don't want you to have fun. They constantly nerf what they consider "over powerful" weapons and abilities. They change, or sometimes, take away whole perks from weapons after years of being used to it working a certain way. They introduce currency on top of currency for you to have to grind. If you complain that it's too much, they either don't listen or they lower the one you're complaining about, but introduce a new one to take its place which makes it pointless. It's like they don't want their players to feel powerful and have fun. That's why I uninstalled about a year ago. It's sad because the foundation for a great game is there.

Germaximus2306d ago (Edited 2306d ago )

A lot of good points but when it comes to PvP, I am not a fan of weapons having a noticeable advantage over others. It's boring and unfair.

It actually sounds like Destiny 2 is very similar to World of Warcraft, where WoW no longer truly rewards the deeply hardcore players. It's still a great game, it's just being hardcore doesn't matter.

Germaximus2306d ago

At this point, you just play because you have fun playing.

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PlayStation Scales Back Expectations for Bungie as Live-Service Risks Come Into Focus

PlayStation has scaled back expectations for Bungie after reassessing Destiny 2 development costs, highlighting the risks tied to live-service games.

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isarai_lee105d ago (Edited 105d ago )

Honestly Thank Goodness!! Yet another good sign of a possibility of returning to what made them great and undoing Jim Tyans trend chasing love service gamble. Still gotta wait and see just what direction they're going but this is a good sign in my book that they're not betting it all on live service anymore

S2Killinit103d ago (Edited 103d ago )

Not sure what you lot are talking about anymore. They need to cover all range of games. Im primarily a single player gamer, but even I cannot be daft enough to ignore the fact that we need all manner of games including live service games. Everyone here seems to be a market expert.

isarai_lee103d ago (Edited 103d ago )

Yes "all manner" not just exclusively live service like Jim was doing, but you also shouldn't be forcing devs to make games they not only have no experience making, but also flatout dont want to do.

S2Killinit103d ago

Assuming that anything like that is actually the case and not just a perception of n4g commenters of course.

Redemption-64103d ago

@isarai_lee
Yes "all manner" not just exclusively live service like Jim was doing.

I don't understand why you people have to keep making up lies. You can say you don't like some or most of their focus being on live service games, but to say they were exclusively focusing on live service games is pure copium. At most half of their games were live service and the rest were single player games. Seriously why lie about something so obvious?

isarai_lee102d ago

@Redemption-64

You say that as if we don't have word directly from Jim Ryan and PlayStation stating they wanted at least 12 live service games released within a year. Followed by tons of official word of those Live Service games being cancelled after he was pushed out. All studios combined at the time PS had 15 studios, 12 is a hell of a lot more than half of 15, and it was definitely their primary focus evident by the fact that a huge portion of their studios have taken uncharacteristically long to release or announce anything since, hell some studios have yet to release anything this gen almost 6 YEARS LATER! The only one making stuff up is you.

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Relientk77105d ago

It may take a while but maybe they are finally learning. Good! Now stop with the live service crap.

ABizzel1103d ago

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a live service here or there, but to have many of your studios start focusing on it when there has been little to no experience among them was wild.

Christopher104d ago (Edited 104d ago )

They say this and then immediately release news of the Horizons co-op game that will definitely be a Live Service game.

isarai_lee103d ago

I feel like they knew that given the fact that the very furst thing they say in the trailer is to reassure they still make so games 😆

isarai_lee103d ago

I feel like they knew that given the fact that the very first furst thing they say in the trailer is to reassure they still make so games 😆

vTuro24104d ago

Bet they're regrettings spending those billions pretty hard right now.

S2Killinit103d ago

Destiny has been a huge success.

Redemption-64103d ago

They will not. Destiny has been popular for over 10 years, something most games can never hope to achieve. Most people, including myself those Bungie was going to make a D3 after the final shape DLC. Marathon looks to be a hit and a D3 announcement could break records.

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Destiny 2 Update 9.5.0.5

Patch notes for Update 9.5.0.5, the one about Equilibrium fixes and more, are now available.

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Destiny 2 is considering adding Sparrow Racing League, unvaulted campaigns, more, new survey reveals

A new survey shows Destiny 2 is considering adding Sparrow Racing League, unvaulted campaigns, NPC sidekicks, new PvP and Gambit modes, and much more.

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