@sidar - Any square enix game will sell a lot in Japan, so how would it mean bankruptcy? Square are a big and talented enough studio to be able to make a game for PS3 without becoming bankrupt

@robotnik - Totally agree, PS3 has not got any love from Square Enix this gen, although I kinda just wish that they stop announcing new games and just finish FFXIII and Versus XIII

I wasn't talking about that.
The problem is that the Development costs are HIGH.
If they only focuss on the PS3 it will kill them since it needs sh/t loads of mony due the bigger teams and other resources. And isn't SE already putting lots of their power in FF13?

Ofcourse they will sell their products, but keep in mind that if they ONLY keep pushing Ps3 games, they will need to put up high budgets.

And if you consider how long FF13 is taking, just imagin that with other games if they only made it for the PS3.

I was just "stretching" it to point out that it's not a smart thing to do.

yeh i agree with gaffy h and robotnik, SE are big and talented enough to make it exclusive for ps3, i would love to see this new game on the ps3 but knowin SE i have doubts this game would even be on ps3

i have no idea wats wrong with se

but looking at that sprite on the tab of my firefox browser, you can see a little sprite, sadly i bet its a DS game :( looks likr a nintendo, Ds kinda character (btw that sprite on the tab comes up ifa ya open it on bahamut[dot]jp)

"SE are big and talented enough to make it exclusive for ps3,"

Totally missing my point...

@sidar - yeah I get you, but the high development costs only affect smaller devs usually. And that's only if they aren't used to the PS3 architecture e.g. EatSleepPlay are a small company yet they are developing 3 PS3 exclusives.

Square already have the Crystal Tools Engine (I think that's what it's call now?), and already have experience coding for the PS3 (cos they've been making FFXIII for like 3 years now), so cost wouldn't affect them that much. Also they are loaded. But I understood your argument from your first post, and there is some truth to it.

you sed it, exactly what i was thinking,

you highly deserve a bubble :D

addin to it;
"loads of mony due the bigger teams"
and SE have more staff hired then any other game developing company
(chek wiki)

but @sidar i do understand what you mean many companys a backing off from the ps3 or making games multiplat due to the fatc that it cost alot to develp for the ps3 and espacially the smaller devs

gaffy,
Not really, if it only affected smaller devs, Monster Hunter 3 would be fully in production for the PS3.
But it seems even Capcom needs to balance stuff out.
You can't just put every high budget game in the production pipeline'( at least not at the same time).

It's just a bad idea.

But didn't lots of man power go to FF13?

@below,

Lol the only fanboy around here is you.
I wasn't bashing anything, just pointing out that it's not a smart move from a financiel(development wise) point.

Lol, so you STFU and GTFO love

Edit:
Since you brought up Xbox i assume you think im a Xbox fanboy, what made you think that?

Japan
PS3: 2 million
360: 700k

Worldwide
PS3: 17 million
360: 21 million

Yes, we can so see that the PS3 is the ultimate bankruptcy you damned fanboys. Gtfo and stfu.

@sidar - but the Wii is a different beast, it has the most sales worldwide. It makes sense for Capcom to make the game for Wii, because they don't even have to make it look that much better than its PSP equivalent games. Capcom already said this gen is a Multi-platform generation, although their actions seem to state otherwise (they've done a few 360 and Wii exclusives this gen and no PS3 exclusives as far as I know).

You DO understand that FFXIII took so long and cost so much mainly because they were developing the Crystal Tools engine for the game.

Every exclusive game by SE for the PS3 after FFXIII would take only about a year to make... if they don't decide to create a BRAND NEW engine again. The new games would also cost a lot less to make than FFXIII because they wouldn't have to create a brand new engine for that new game.

The main reason why most PS3 exclusives take so long to make is because the developers usually create a brand new engine for those games. But after those engines are created, then each successive PS3 exclusive would require far less money and time to create.

But I do understand your point that its not wise to focus entirely on one console if you want to maximize your profits. But what the others and I are saying is that it IS possible to make profit on one console only. Its just that there's no reason why third parties would only want to focus on just one console.

@gaffy,

Capcoms main reason was the high development costs.
That's why, and next to that yes Wii has a bigger audience

@above me,
Well at least we agree on some parts =P

I thought FF# moving to the 360 was actually pretty funny. But I hate Square-Enix too. Because all they ever do is release half-assed ports and remakes. Besides, the final fantasy series bores me half to death, and I can't stand it. The art direction of this upcoming game looks kind of neat (I agree to ripping of SotC, though. First thing I thought when I saw it). I will look out for this.

Dude I made a comment about the artistic direction of their new game. I never commented on the PS3 neither the 360 or SE's attitude towards consoles. How can you take this comment and turn it into a "SE leaving the PS3 army" it's beyond my comprehension.
I cannot believe some people...

@3.4: I don't mind FF13 being multiplatform. It's just the way of marketing, it's all about cash and surviving in today's market. I understand it. But the way Square abandons it's fanbase is something I didn't see from any other company which pretty much sucks.

@3.5: some people are just oversensitive.

You are right with your statement, but you make it sound too negative.

Yes SE is indeed going where the money is, but that has more to do with the fact that sony's competition now has a bigger market share then it had with last generation.

If you still persistently develop for just one console youl miss out a major chunk of income, and without that income your company cannot grow, so if SE would be sony exclusive, they would actually shrink.
And shrinking can put company's out of business.

Seriously, there were never a Square(-etc) Game for a Sega Console.. o_O

They dumped nintendo because the cardtridges where too limited in sense of space, Cd's where able to hold 10 times as much data, with the idea's square had, they would have to split the game over 10 cardtrdiges, so they went to sony, who chose for a cd based system.

They now chose to also release software on the 360, because 360 has more or less about 55 ~ 60 % market share atm.

Which means if they side with sonly only, they would actually sell les software then they did last gen, when sony had 80 % share.

Its just a way to survive for gaming company's, only the company's that are bound by contracts, develop exclusively.

gonna get dumped and move on to the Googlegenesis.

I can make a dump. but that won't have the same impact.

nah, they aways move to the direct adversary of said company, soooo they will move to apple... they already anounced a chocobo dungeon to it..