Spurg

First - Control was in development before Quantum Break even shipped so i doubt 505 had a huge influence on the creative design.

Second - Microsoft owns Quantum Break while 505 does not own Control. I'd assume a publisher would have far more influence over an IP that they own than an IP they do not.

Third - Microsoft invested far more money into Quantum Break and it's known that they had influence over the game/IP that they own. 505 jumped in after Control (P7 at the time) was in development and helped with funding/publishing. They are two different situations while Remedy retains the rights to Control, not 505.

Fourth - Originally Remedy was making a sequel to Alan Wake, that was the plan, but Microsoft wanted a new IP so Remedy made creative changes to accommodate that.

Control has timed exclusivity on the Epic Store for PC, so? That's been an extremely common trend nowadays and a way for mid level AAAs to allocate more funds. It has nothing to do with creative freedom as far as the development of the game is concerned and it probably allowed Remedy to attain more money for development.

If you honestly believe that 505 interfered with the creative design of Control more than Microsoft did with Quantum Break, an IP that they own, then idk what to tell you. Also, Microsoft is known for micro-managing and stifling creative freedom while 505 is primarily an indie publisher.

I really loved QB and found that it was a great Remedy experience.
What pissed me was that most of reviews found ridiculous reasons to bash the game
- all cars are Nissan.
- too many collectible
- skippable FMV but samedi reviewers praise FMV game like late shift and her Stories
- game is always 1 section battle 1 section exploration ( funny Uncharted 4 release the same year had the same formula).

In the end lots of ppl passed judgement without playing the game and it result in losses for Remedy.

I liked QB as much as the next guy, and agree it had some interesting mechanics, but there was almost no variation in approaching any given situation.

I also feel calling out the 22 minute cut scenes a valid complaint, although a subjective one at best.

Game scored reasonably well, and the pc scores were mostly based on problems the game had running on PC. There wasnt any kind of collusion to score it lower, and this same argument is used for every exclusive game. The only difference is the side of the console war fence that says this is the case.

@Rain
If Peter North score one game 6 and the others 8 then it should mean that the game scored 8 is better right?
One should expect that the flaws mentioned in the 1st game be corrected or mentioned if still present right?

Then plz explain what change in the gameplay mechanic for having QB scored with uneven shooting mechanic, must stand to shoot, And break flow of the fight to: it’s a beautiful ballet between guns and power In control?

Or what change in the tedious mundane email, note, video collecting, that explain back story but distract from gameplay to basically being the best reason to play Control?

All of Qb combat fight seems similar in the fact that is was Often Arena type fight like Uncharted. so what change in Control? Because now it’s a positive.

And the majority of theses negatives were adresse in all average QB review.

The only negative that only seem to stick is the Optional 22 min Cutscene that you could watch to understand the bad guys point of view.
So now I guess we should lower Alan Wake score because it had the Brightall 30 min FMV
Or how about Farcry with the same concept

And bonus topic
If having less then 60 frames on pc when Qb released was a major negative ( I had 50 on GTX 970) then where’s the major uproar about PS4 pro having less then 30 frames sec in big fight?
The Pro is , according to Sony, similar to my GTX.

but in this case... it did. Many just liked to crap all over QB on this site but then they see Control being shown at Sony E3 and all of a sudden they are like... "wow, cant wait, Sony should buy Remedy, and this is the game QB should have been" Like they decided to look at Remedy in a new light since their game was on PS4 as well.

Do you see where I'm going with this? That is the mentality of the single platform gamer. They will crap all over a game they may never play or have any interest in until the company that made it decides to spread the love. then they get all happy.

All of these 'people' praising this game have at one time or another crapped on QB or even Alan Wake because they were associated with xbox. That is the "guilty by association" way of thinking around here.

Go see Gamespot Peter North review
It validate my point.
He reviewed both games
Yet in QB he complained about a lot of stuff that didn’t bother him in Controll or even praise.

QB “These offer a wealth of supplementary information, sometimes pertaining to characters who only get screen time during the show. As a resource, they're valuable, but they are so dense that pausing to read every one in order to understand semi-interesting side stories is a tiresome effort to undertake.”

Control “ One of my favorite aspects of Control, now that I've got room to breathe, is spending quality time with its collectible texts and videos. I've managed to read most of the in-game “
“there are so many fascinating threads to pull on that it's easy to imagine new possibilities lying in wait; if only I studied the evidence a little closer, or considered a new angle, maybe the missing pieces of Jesse's story would come into view”

darth

There are so many differences between the situation with Quantum Break and the situation with Control and you ignore them all.

You act like people talking about Sony buying Remedy is solely because they aren't associated with Microsoft anymore or like it's something fanboys made up. Shu flew over to Sweden and met with Remedy, that is where the rumors originated. Numerous articles were written about it and when Sony bought Insomniac it seemed even more likely.

You act like Control being shown on the Sony stage makes fanboys fall in love with it even though it's a straight up multiplat. Most people probably don't even remember it was announced on Sony's stage in 2018. I do, but i'm a super fan. I remember how Microsoft fans went nuts for Anthem when it was announced on the Microsoft stage. People literally used Anthem as a major reason for why Microsoft won E3 even though it was multiplatform. It was odd, and much different to how Sony fans treated the announcement of Control, but even the Anthem Xbox E3 hype died and eventually Microsoft fans kind treated it like a regular game.

Also, Quantum Break was far more hyped than Control, it was a larger budget release that was owned by Microsoft and it had planned to kickoff an entire television hybrid. The game put itself out there and Aaron Greenberg put a target on its back by saying how great it was right before reviews came out thus raising expectations higher. The live action plans were cut down and ultimately only served to hurt the game. People were turned off by it. Control was much different. It was a less hyped and more independent project from Remedy with less publisher interference and no gimmicks. Remedy just put their heads down and made a good game with a smaller publisher on a fraction of the budget. The situations are different, Control didn't do anything to turn people off and it's supposedly a much better game.

In the end, Control appears to be significantly better than Quantum Break. That's really the biggest point. You say that Quantum Break did bad because "it was cool to hate Xbox at the time" but what about the possibility that Control is just a better game because Remedy was allowed more creative freedom and because they learned from prior mistakes?

I don't mean "okay" to mean "average." It's reviewing very well, in fact.

There is no point when it comes to trying to explain things to most of these guys because they want to push their own narrative even if it isn't true.

Really? If Quantum Break was Remedy's and if Remedy had absolute control then why does Microsoft own the IP?

You really believe that Remedy would withhold their game from a major platform just because they had a beef with the publisher? I'm not saying they have a beef, but your argument is silly.

Microsoft owns the IP and they are known for micro-managing. You really believe they had no say in Quantum Break? It's very rare for a publisher to have zero input on an IP the own, especially in Microsoft's case.

They were on hiatus lol

I couldn't get into the Witcher 3. Took me three tries. Now I consider it one of my absolute favorite games of all time. Speaking of Control, I loved it. I loved the setting, vibe, everything. Guess I'm so weird, I must be cool, right?