I really wish sony would build new studios from the ground up instead of buying already established studios that make multiplat games

Lol krib. Sony do both

@Kribwalker Same exact thing can be said about Microsoft so what is the problem with Sony buying studios but its fine for Microsoft? Microsoft should have built studios instead of buying Ninja Theory, Obsidian, Double Fine, etc and they should have gotten criticized for it than instead of getting praised.

@Krib

I think Insomniac has made a total of 1 multiplat game in the last 15 years, and it was a commercial failure.

I guess you could include SSoD since it eventually went to PC.

Maybe if you include the games that came from Insomniac East, but I'd wager not many here could list a single game from that part of their company without going to look it up.

@Aeery @kribwalker ok, why ? If Microsoft can buy studio, why can’t Sony do it ?

@krib

"I really wish sony would build new studios from the ground up instead of buying already established studios that make multiplat games"

They already do.

Hate on Kribwalker all you want, but a lot of people here were saying just that when MS bought Playground Games and Undead Labs.

But, recognize the other side of this hypocrisy as well. There were people here just last week trying to tell us how Insomniac bought its way out of Sony, made their own games, and how another company who was expanding from just PS4 to now PC games is of utmost importance to consider for their relationship to Sony. It apparently put a lot of things into perspective? But, let's ignore how a company who previously wanted to stay as independent as possible, did that, and yet Sony accepted them back without question and now they've decided to be owned by that same company?

To me, this looks like Sony doing the same as Microsoft, putting their house in order for the next generation and ensuring the companies they want on their team are there and those they can't afford to keep exclusive are given the freedom to do what they want.

We should all stop bickering over how these companies do it or trying to speculate as to the intent and perspective behind them, let alone think that just because a company is no longer exclusive to another that it means they aren't still well supported and loved by the people who got them to where they are.

And what DOESN'T make sense?

@Christopher & Kribwalker

There is a HUGE difference buying someone who has worked with you for a very long period of time then buying a studio who you've hardly ever batted an eyelid to

The one studio people have said Sony should buy is Insomniac because they've been by Sony's side since the PS1 creating a classic such as Spyro the Dragon, then Ratchet & Clank. then Resistance and now Spiderman. Unlike someone such as Microsoft buying Ninja Theory or Double Fine.

No one really had a huge issue with Microsoft buying Playground Games and Undead Labs because at the end of the day they had worked with them a little before hand. The only issue people had was why not create studios from the ground up aswell as that but they only did one then bought Obsidian, Double Fine, Ninja Theory, I mean really?

It would be more of a case and point if Sony bought Remedy for example

What hypocrisy @Christopher?

Sony has build a lot of studios from the ground up and are still doing it (pixelopus and the rumored news studio). He would have been right if Sony weren’t building studios themselves, but they are. Where’s his logic?

I know a lot of people have say that to MS because they barely build studios themselves, but Sony has already built studios themselves and keep doing that. Also for the record you could say Sony has built insomniac in some way

Maybe when he says something that makes sense and not in spite to any good news about PS people here won’t hate him, because all the studios that Sony has built and keep building have proven his argument moot

***There is a HUGE difference buying someone who has worked with you for a very long period of time then buying a studio who you've hardly ever batted an eyelid to ***

You guys are just creating your own rules and ignoring the cracks within them, IMHO.

And I say the same to the other side.

It was okay to make SFV PS4 only, but Tomb Raider 1-year was bad because whatever. Nah, they were both bad for gamers. End of story.

Now it's okay to buy a studio only when you've worked with them for years? I think the developers of Ninja Theory, Obsidian, and Double Fine have said the exact opposite and have been given a lot of freedom and reason to continue to exist from these purchases. But, the only way others will accept it is if they don't continue to exist and Microsoft creates new studios from the rubble? Or if Microsoft hires only the best from each of those studios to create new ones to make the same games those studios would have made?

Just silly, IMHO. All of it.

Great news imo, loved Insomniac games since Ratchet and Spiderman was proof they are still relevant.

This is kind of like when Microsoft bought ninja theory except Microsoft had no relationship with ninja. Sony has long had a great relationship with insomniac.

Please sony... green light SSOD2 and let them make SSOD1 as a freebie bonus.

Classic N4G arguments:

Some random person says something that's then attributed to an entire group that now has to answer for it. Forget all the PS fans applauding MS for finally taking publishing seriously again, let's focus on the asshats that say negative crap no matter what and try to hold every PS fan accountable for what said asshats had to say.

That fact that Christopher is coming to the defense of Krib is laughable. Krib stretches reality more than most around here. And to ignore the nuance of who Insomniac is and their relationship with Sony just to call out people who may have never had the point of view your arguing against is just ridiculous.

@Eonjay - well that depends, were Sony fans criticizing MS's practices of buying up studios? Because if that's the case then it would be hypocritical of Sony fans to act like they are above such tactics..

I, for one, applaud this decision. They have a solid history together and it makes sense.

'No one really had a huge issue with Microsoft buying Playground Games and Undead Labs because at the end of the day they had worked with them a little before hand. The only issue people had was why not create studios from the ground up aswell as that but they only did one then bought Obsidian, Double Fine, Ninja Theory, I mean really?

It would be more of a case and point if Sony bought Remedy for example'

Spot on fox

I didn't see too much complaints about Microsoft's purchases especially the two Chris mentioned. I think krib was being sly with his comment and mirroring what some ps fans may have said. . .fair enough. My answer to that was Sony do both. Grow and acquire so that's not 'hating on krib' it's disagreeing with the notion Sony don't build from scratch. What say you

***That fact that Christopher is coming to the defense of Krib is laughable.***

Beside the fact that I immediately called out his own hypocrisy...

But, don't worry, when you have something worth defending, I'll defend you as well. 😉

@Christopher
No
It's not because some silly comments about Ms acquisition were made that you have to do the same silly comments about Insomniacs.
Everyone actually knows there s absolutely no denying the studio and Sony are a perfect fit.

The hypocrisy is to pretend there's a problem here

I Wonder what would have happened if Bungie had stayed under Rockstar Games after releasing ONI and theyre would have been no PS2 Grand Theft Auto vs Microsoft Halo fight back then, i wonder if the Xbox would have been where it is now if they didnt buy Bungie those were the 2 biggest games around the early 2000s

Now I want more Resistance and Ratchet please IG!!!

Krib: your likes are hopeless

Time To Make A New Resistance for PS5 with a whole new arsenal of creative Weapons

***The hypocrisy is to pretend there's a problem here***

Neither Kribwalker nor I have a problem with this sale. (Yeah, I am speaking on Krib's behalf and without his permission.)

He was just pointing out how different this news was taken by people who criticize other companies for the same thing.

I find this news to be great for Sony, and hopefully just as good for Insomniac if it means Sony continues to let them flex their wings and make new IPs.

Indeed.

I previously stated the acquisition was unlikely based on Price's previous statements and the fact that Insomniac was pretty comfortable being partners with a Sony. Insomniac is a huge acquisition. Huge.

I can accept that I was wrong. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to cancel my dinner plans. I was planning for a nice evening out, but it seems like I will only need my hat and a microwave tonight.

@Christopher
“Neither Kribwalker nor I have a problem with this sale. (Yeah, I am speaking on Krib's behalf and without his permission.)

He was just pointing out how different this news was taken by people who criticize other companies for the same thing. ”

Exactly. And it was the same comment made by the OG poster, who has now spun it around as to make himself not look the hypocrite.

I hope sony buying Insomniac paves the way for sunset overdrive 2, as MS surely wasn’t getting made and i loved the first one and would love a sequel, anywhere really.

Chris,

"You guys are just creating your own rules and ignoring the cracks within them, IMHO."

No, you are too proud to admit that you are ignoring the whole wall for some cracks on it because it suits your current argument.

I've been here long enough to know your logic's extend and Foxtrot's argument is valid and you damn know it. Insomniac is for all intents and purposes synonymous with Sony, now it's just official. This is not a case of Sony buying a truly multiplatform dev like recent MS aqcuisitions.

It truly is a very different situation here. It doesn't make it right or wrong mind you but different. Even the hypothetical Sony buying Remedy case demonstrates this difference clear as day.

That said, I do agree that buying multiplatform game exclusivity (1 year or whatever) is wrong and both Sony and MS are to blame here.

And a piece of friendly advice, next time choose a more neutral comment to support (you seem to like that) rather than the most trolling one on the entire thread.

@Chris You know Foxtrot has a point, right ?

@Kribwalker

Don't worry, I got the joke.

Seems no one here has a sense of humor lol

It was meant to be. Welcome home, Ratchet & Clank.

Terrible news. Insomniac had some pretty good VR games. Sony ruining it again for gamers.

The hypocrisy is real.

@ unspoken, doesn't sony currently have the biggest presence in vr? How is insominacs work on vr and being bought by a company who is pushing vr a bad thing? Isnt sony talking about publishing games on other platforms to reach a bigger audience? Could that not also involve their vr stuff, especially as it seems it's the pc they are talking about. I dont see it as a bad thing.

No need to buy kojima without mgs

@Gumby

That's solely for the first game.