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Nintendo considering extending Switch Online library beyond NES

Nintendo president Shuntaro Furukawa has told shareholders the company is considering extending its Nintendo Switch Online library beyond the currently offered NES games to other legacy platforms. During the company's AGM, he also acknowledged the growing number of Switch redesign reports.

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_SilverHawk_2516d ago (Edited 2516d ago )

Lol. I have a switch and everything about it feels like a scam. The ps vita that was released 8 years ago has a lot better features than the switch and the online is free and better. The nes library of games are worth probably five dollars in total or even less but Nintendo thinks its necessary to spoon feed its fans that rubbish library and charge for the games that people cant own. I still dont understand how people support all the overpriced games that are of lower quality and performance on the Nintendo switch. Nintendo should be selling at least 80 percent of their past catalog of games on its store from nes, snes, ultra nes, gamecube, Wii, and Wii u.

slate912516d ago

Nintendo has such a vast amount of past classics. You can't over expose them. What they're doing is keeping them in demand. If they released all of them at once it might interfere with the draw they bring to people. Just speaking from a business perspective.

Automatic792515d ago (Edited 2515d ago )

@slate

Not worth giving a "different perspective" most won't understand or appreciate. They will automatically dismiss and disapprove.

I am on opposite side of my comments above. I truly respect what you stated. Agree button clicked.

Thank you.

CorndogBurglar2515d ago

People won't understand that. If you release it all once people can't afford to buy everything they want. It's not rocket science.

slate912515d ago

@Automatic79 Appreciate the kind words. Thank you

JunMei2515d ago

While I disagree with that kind of approach, I agree with your comment, and it is indeed in their best interest. Holding it back on purpose can be used to gain sudden attention/sales when they determine it.

Indigon2515d ago

Trickle feeding it's called.

Glak182515d ago

Well Nintendo has been "trickle feeding" since the Wii...

I opened my wallet and said "Take what is necessary". Nintendo responded with "Naaaaah".

So I bought a Raspberry Pi with EVERY single Nintendo game made loaded on a MicroSD card and haven't looked back since.

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Sgt_Slaughter2515d ago (Edited 2515d ago )

The Vita also bombed hard and killed itself with terribly priced memory cards and a lackluster lineup outside of two to three genres that are niche at best.

Sirk7x2515d ago

It functions better as a PSP and PS1 machine than it does actually offer great exclusives. Although Persona 4 Golden in itself is damn near worth the price of admission. Best bet is to find one cheap that needs joystick replacements and do it yourself. Sony should have put more effort into supporting it, and getting more exclusives fit for a handheld market though. I have mine hacked, and even with the entire library available, there's maybe five games that interest me outside of the PSP and PS1 classics.

Rekkr2515d ago (Edited 2515d ago )

Vita might have bombed but it still has superior online features than the Switch. That’s what he stated, Sales have nothing to do with what Psvita can do versus the limited online Switch features.

NiteX2515d ago (Edited 2515d ago )

First off, the Vita has zero features.... unless you call a rear touchpad a "feature". Second, everyone knows it's the games that matter. Vita never got any worthwhile exclusives.

BanginTunes7772515d ago

Vita had better online features than Switch like party chat and friend messaging, web browser and video apps, PlayStation Plus games each month and various PS1 classics available to buy. Exclusives are what matter but Sony's failed system offering things that Nintendo's successful one isn't, is disappointing. I'd play my Switch more if the games weren't more expensive on it than other systems

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CyberSentinel2515d ago

N64 was actually called the "Ultra 64" when it was in development.

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EddieNX 2515d ago

Key difference. Switch is amazing and has killer games, Vita was awful.

abovetheclouds2515d ago

Coming from the biggest Nintendrone on this site.

What a shocker!

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Sirk7x2515d ago

It's not awful, just underwhelming. Needed more good exclusives, fit for handheld gaming. People that want to play God of War and Uncharted are going to want to play those on home consoles instead, as they are meant to be cinematic experiences. Just doesn't translate well and seems unnecessary for a small screen.

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Knushwood Butt2515d ago

@ awd

Yeah, but the Switch versions are the best because they are portable.

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Angyobangyo2515d ago

Calling the Switch itself a scam is vastly unfair and downright silly. Their online service, yes is terrible compared the their rivals.

As great as the vita was, it failed regardless of how good and feature packed it was. The price set for 3rd games on the system are set by the publishers not Nintendo.

Why aren’t console games cheaper because they run at 30fps 1080p whilst PC can play 60fps+ at higher resolutions? You see how silly your argument about performance vs cost is.

I’ll agree with you that the monthly NES games are terrible and something that Nintendo needs to address.

TK-662515d ago

"Calling the Switch itself a scam is vastly unfair and downright silly. Their online service, yes is terrible compared the their rivals."

Well charging for online is a scam but he unfortunately left out the part where he is willing to be scammed if its for a different platforms benefit.

Sirk7x2515d ago

I'd like to offer some perspective please. It is very easy to emulate these games on a computer, but there some problems. One, emulation is not perfect by any means. Most emulators use high level emulation, which is basically hacking the game to force it to work. What you're playing is nowhere near hardware accurate concerning visuals, sound, what is actually going on with the code, etc. Many problems can arise, which could prove to be disastrous for a dedicated console. Glitches and crashes can cause damage, allow for exploits, etc. They all need to be tested and worked on, which costs time and money. Cycle accurate emulation, or something like 99.99 percent correct, is VERY resource intensive. To this day you still need a pretty beefy computer to run a cycle accurate emulation of a SNES game. Lots of the games on the VC in the past actually took a good deal of workload to release. Not only that, but then you run into licensing, publishing, advertisement, server maintenance, etc, which means that it could potentially cost the company more than they make to even release a SNES game if it doesn't sell well. The games have to run with little to no issues, they have to be released legally, royalties paid, advertised, everything. It's a whole different world from downloading a game illegally and then accepting inaccuracies with emulation. The Vita is a cool handheld, for sure, but it's already at the end of its life, and its library will be nowhere near what the Switch's will be in a few years. I have a Vita, but in 2019, I wouldn't recommend anyone buy one unless they planned on modding it.

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TheGamez1002515d ago

Man the vita was truly a great system. So ahead of its time. Horrible shame people couldnt see how great the system was. And here we have the switch that has much less features than its predecessor and even the psp lol. Sure its all about the games but how the hell do you not have these features in this day and age? The switches operating system should have just been the wii us but better. Instead of course nintendo takes more steps back than forward when they get the hardware right. Botw is literally the only game ive loved so far on the switch so its been collecting dust quite a bit. I dont want to pay for overpriced ports that are of lesser quality and indies arent my thing. Am excited for future first party games but the wait will be long.
And seriously, why in the world have they still not added in virtual consoles from the nes-wii u as buy to keep and not a subscription? And please for the love of god add more beyond nes to switch online at least. A switch mini soon will be great too. The switch is quite heavy and uncomfortable to play in handheld mode, so the size of the vita would be great.

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King_Noctis2516d ago

About time. Bring over the Wii/Wii U titles as well while you’re at it.

EddieNX 2515d ago

The NES games do have online multiplayer and stuff which is why they've probably taken longer.

But yes, bring everything to the Switch.

abovetheclouds2515d ago

"Considering" not "in the process of making it happen."

Sono4212515d ago

Exactly... it shouldn't even be "considering" their online is god awful, and these NES games are not justifying it whatsoever. This should be a couple months away, not in the "considering" stage. Either drop this soon, or fix your garbage online, or make online free again, those are the only ways you can fix this Nitnendo... and I bet they do none of these.

Sirk7x2515d ago

I'd rather just see Wii titles reworked into HD versions. Wii resolution was very low. I just want Xenoblade Chronicles HD...why Nintendo, why you no make this happen.

Father__Merrin2516d ago

Can't believe ppl are falling for switch

Sgt_Slaughter2515d ago

Can't believe they're owning a great system? You're missing out.

ChristopherJack2515d ago (Edited 2515d ago )

System? No. Iconic franchises? Yes.
Only reason I bought mine was pokemon, has been collecting dust waiting.
It was grossly overpriced but I felt like being a little wasteful.

NiteX2515d ago

Why? I find it super easy to believe. It has great games.

King_Noctis2515d ago (Edited 2515d ago )

Falling for a great system is nothing wrong in my opinion.

TheFirstClassic2515d ago

Honestly one of my favorite consoles of all time, despite its its shortcomings

mamotte2515d ago

Can't believe ppl are falling for ps4

Can't believe ppl are falling for xbone

Can't believe ppl are falling for PC gaming

Am I doing this right?

Sirk7x2515d ago

What do you mean? I own two. Also a PS4, Xbox One, Vita, 3DS, modded all my other consoles going back generations xD.
I still play my Switch almost every day, it's a great piece of hardware.

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porkChop2516d ago

SNES and N64 games with online coop/multiplayer would be nice.

Shuckylad2515d ago

GBA also has an incredible catalog.

porkChop2515d ago

About what? The NES games have online coop, so that's likely. And if Nintendo is looking to introduce more consoles the SNES and N64 would be most likely.

Projekt72515d ago

How about some old schoolsTurboGrafx-16 games? The Bonk’s Adventure series, Bomberman 93, Keith‘s Courage, Y’s book and even Splatter House. I’d be down for some TG-16 games.

porkChop2515d ago

Never played TG-16 but yeah, why not?

Sirk7x2515d ago

People would go nuts over Mario Kart 64, Mario Party 64 titles, and Smash Melee online. Would be fantastic.

porkChop2515d ago

Mario Party with online would be great.

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WickedLester2515d ago

"considering?" LMAO well gee Nintendo. Don't be in too big a hurry or anything.

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Take-Two CEO Once Again Side Steps Grand Theft Auto 6 Price Point

Strauss Zelnick says price of GTA 6 is being carefully considered and that Rockstar is focused on "making the most spectacular piece of entertainment on Earth."

Kuma17d ago

If GTA 6 abandons everything that made GTA 5 great, it will crash and burn right out of the gate. GTA 5 was funny and not at all PC. My worry is that they will cave to the PC crowd and ruin the vibes.

Eonjay17d ago

They got freaking BBLs twerking on the top of trucks for the gram, the freaking Flordia joker, and dude running down the stree in their undies and you are worried about it being 'too PC'? The internet has runied gamers. It doesn't matter how non-PC they make the game, you will all listen to the grifters telling you not to believe your lying eyes lol.

gigoran817d ago

"Rockstar Games’ co-founder and former VP of Development Jamie King said he envisions GTA 6 as a game that’s “maybe not quite as edgy or quite as funny” as its satirical predecessors."

oh yeah, totally internet grifters spreading rumors...

blacktiger17d ago

That's part of the plan, they destroyed you but they need to destroy the shareholders? Only 1 shre holder is the true elite that don't care

1nsomniac17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

Meh.., if it’s above £55 I ain’t buying it.

Rockstar are genuinely not half the company they used to be. I was a die hard GTA fan I’ve purchased every game and expansion and spin off day 1.

My opinion of GTA6 is that I can take it or leave it. Not bothered. They burnt too many bridges.

DaReapa17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

So they're actually leaving the door open for an L.A. Noire sequel? Nice!

VaNdAl17d ago (Edited 17d ago )

He should just come out and say it already it's getting stupid it's going to be a 100 bucks $200 for the special edition🤡🤡; 29315;🤣♿

Storm2317d ago

I won't be getting this game until I can get it for $70. SHoot, I could wait for it to be even lower. I don't need the game that badly as my backlog is still huge and I am enjoying playing other things.

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Talking Aliens: The Video Games With Author Mike Diver

Skewed and Reviewed have posted an interview with Author Mike Diver about his pending book on Aliens video games.

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay19d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn219d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn219d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown19d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay19d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay19d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac18d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger19d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300019d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde19d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood19d ago (Edited 19d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde19d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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