Yeah, like I understand that they’re meant to be a mode designed for teamwork, but I feel developers underestimate people’s ability to come together for things like these. I mean if someone’s going into a raid it should be common sense to expect team play to be crucial.

Heck I used group finders in the past for destiny to play with ransoms and it’s never really been a major issue. A lot of times we just start a group on psn so we won’t get separated if say we decide to turn in for the day/night

I mean I won’t deny that for destiny there have been parts where communication is major, but this is usually right around when the raids would go live. I say a few months down the line typically anyone including ransoms could finish them in a breeze

This is why I've never done a raid in Destiny. I ignore 99% of friend requests, but even if I did accept, organizing friends to all play at once would be difficult because the times that I play at are all over the place.

Not that it matters, maxing out characters is already too easy. And since I don't play the terrible pvp I don't really care about most of the gear I'm not getting, what I have is already good enough. I haven't even bothered to masterwork my main gear despite sitting on a couple of hundred enhancement cores.

Yep, I agree. At least give players the option if they want it, right? I gather, Ubi should patch it in as long as the playerbase keeps complaining.

I mean, even with an LFG team, someone can always suck and hold the team back. Then you end up kicking them and having to go back to the LFG site to find someone else. And, the issue with that, that's always been an issue with Destiny, is that some players want to play the entire Raid, as some sections might reward certain items. So then if someone joins half way through the raid, they'll have to then find another group later on to complete the first half.

My issue isn't that they don't want to put matchmaking in the game, it's the fact that they stated EVERY ACTIVITY WILL HAVE MATCHMAKING. And when you don't deliver on what you promise, it starts to create this narrative that studios can start saying all they want to, and then change their minds a couple of days before content releases. There are literally hundreds of people who just purchased the annual pass right before this news broke, and are now upset that what was promised isn't the case. It's not about who's right or wrong, it's about the principle of the matter. That's like if I bought tickets to a football game, and then a couple hours before the game, they decide to change it from full contact to flag or two hand touch. It's not what I paid for.

How would having the option to matchmake stop you from doing that? I wouldn't.

I find these types of opinions laughable. "I don't think its needed so f*** everyone else"

Cross save just isn't going to happen. There's ubisoft accounts that have played it on all three platforms.

That said raid/incursion exclusives aren't so exclusives anymore and not really that deal breaking. Its the expertise/proficient that's the big hang up.