How can you say its boring, its the funnest thing iv ever played and still do, the multilayer did it for me making it one of the best games iv ever played and months later when new games come out it wasn't going to take me away from it. still lots of people to this day play the gears of war MP.

Gears is too focused on teamwork so online 'clans' or groups that train together like commandos really make it less fun. At least with Left 4 Dead the opponents have differences: zombies or human.

there was bit of that commando training, but most of it was found in ranked there was plenty of laid back games in player match, a mixture of both is what i found so fun.

Resistance 2 going to US was a big disappointment. Though the graphics weren't the best, I really enjoyed the fact that 1 was in the UK. Another 'Half-Life 2-like run around the woods with GIANT enemies' is not that exciting imo.

I'm sure it'll be good, but I'm sick of giant enemies and similar environments. I'm waiting for a budget price on R2. At least it has some good multi options, offline and on, though. Gears was a 1 trick pony for multi.

I'm still hoping it'll also be fun offline, but you are right the focus is online. It's a great concept, if it works properly, that's for sure.

In one of the vids the director being interviewed actually calls the zombie groups "hordes' funnily enough . . . . and the need to revive your team mates as well as keep their back is brilliant . you can't just go wandering off. Oh you can, but you won't last long. There's a vid at the bottom of the list of vids on the L4D Video page we have that shows what happens when that ocures.

There's almost NO WAY you can survive by yourself, you just get overwhelmed by the hordes of zombies and the audio on it is terrific. You can call for help and hopefully the other 3 will come to your aid - in time. Hopefully. But the vid sure is messy read bloody . . Think it's called survival, not the one at the top, but towards the bottom someplace.

if gears multi is boring then why is it that ppl still play it? while ppl dont even own r1 anymore let alone play it online.

you seem to forget that gears1 won goty while r1 floped and from the looks of it history is repeating itself..

but hey ignore the gamepro, gameinformer, egm reviews. who cares that the majority think gears 2 is the game to own.so what right?! as long as you have your 60 player frenzy it's all good. it's just short of gears of war good that's all..

We'll forget you said that mate (jk btw) . . but it is great to see the developers now finding ways of leveling the playing field with their titles appearing on both the PC and 360. It won't be too long before they are even, and able to play alongside each other much more than they are now. Which would be the ultimate in online gaming for all concerned.

L4D's MP is frantic, and with Valve behind it it should be well worth the effort in getting it.

Shame it's not coming out at a less frantic delivery time though. Many fans blinded by their hyped up views could well miss out on an excellent MP game . . the same goes for several other games coming out over the next 3 weeks or so.

This is a problem unfortunately when we have way too many games and too short a delivery window.

well i think it's safe to say thatL4D will be another AAA game because the hype has not been from fanboys but from the gaming press.And one thing we should remember is that this game is from Valve. Their track record says it all.

Agreed with both of you, it's a shame that the hype machine can ruin the chances of perfectly good games getting the proper exposure they deserve. There's many a great AAA title that has slipped in under the radar and not gotten its full amount of coverage, yet those that have had a huge amount of hype, "usually" (not always) end up being a bit hit-n-miss.

Look at Fracture . big huge hype and mehhh game . . . it didn't deliver on most of its promises at all . . . yet this will, and some.

And one developer recently canned a game because they estimated its average review score would be around 8 - 8.5, so canned the canned the game altogether as they claimed it wouldn't get the support for it to be financially succeseful. So in effect, we've created a false level which developer much reach before they can consider their games worth building, now that is NOT good for the industry. The fact that for some gamers these days, if a game gets a 7 or even an 8, it doesn't even rank as being worth buying or even looking at, which is rubbish . . the mid range for games is 5-6 ppl, not 8-9 . .

Extra bubble never hurt mate heheheh but thanks anyway.

I'll take his bubble :)

Yeah, its really good that gears of war is bringing bots to the table offering everyone online or offline able to play competitive ad a unbeatable level, i would like to see other games bring this in or in fact split screen for that matter.

I would disagree, Gears of War was very tactical if you thought about it, it’s fairly team based in general, and that’s how epic wanted it to be. In the countless clan matches I have played if we had a team plan and we knew what everyone was doing we would win but if we just went out there to be a hero we would loos.

In the 2nd Epic making it even more team worked based in general means and also bring out special modes just for it.

had the same thoughts.....read it 4 times and still was saying wtf? lol

Yup...and once again we won't probably give enough time to see what we like before we move on the next game because they release WAY TOO MANY games now...just before Christmas.

It is supposed to be the big money time, but I don't know how that works when so many big titles are competing for our attention and $$$. GTAIV had a clean run because there wasn't much releasing at the same time.

The terrible thing is, each publisher relies on the magic "two week window" to get maximum out of their game upon release. SO when they are lumped in with several other major AAA titles, each one has to share that two week window, and customers don't get an even crack at trying them all out .. .Plus that also limits their return (Pub).

I'm betting that Gears 2 will NOT get the same return or take up as Gears 1 did. As it fronted at a time when there was very little in opposition to it, so had the period all to its self.

This time, there's several major games, all with excellent MP aspects, great SP storylines andmodes. So basically they all will suffer, and Gears willnot get the take up in did originally.

Console generations drag on long enough already, that's why they pale in comparison to a good PC after a few years.

A "few iterations" what you wanna wait over 20 years for a remake? Lmao.

A good example of a big jump in fidelity: L4D2 plantation in Source 2, the original game looks super bare bones in comparison.. and that leak came out just a few years after the game came out, unfortunately Valve became lazy and didn't bother doing much with the engine so now it doesn't hold up as well, still good, but lacking a bit now.

So yeah, big jumps can come in just a few years.. nevermind more.