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Devil May Cry 5 – what Ninja Theory did better than Capcom

Capcom's Devil May Cry 5 is the series' newest shiny jewel, but Ninja Theory's black sheep did a couple things better.

Vandamme212614d ago

I can’t really say anything about this yet because I haven’t started dmc5 yet. I been to busy playing resident evil 2 remake. I love dmc devil may cry.

DaDrunkenJester2614d ago

Besides the cringe dialogue, I thoroughly enjoyed DmC.

Vits2614d ago

It was a pretty good game to be honest, the combo system worked well and gave it some deph (though I can see why a couple of people didn't like it). That said, as a "Devil May Cry" it just wans't what the fans wanted.

DaDrunkenJester2614d ago

I'm not saying it's perfect or better than any of the numbered games, but it was still very enjoyable and in no way deserves the hate it gets from the hardcore fans.

Unspoken2613d ago

I feel the dialogue was terrible just like most dubbed anime where the translators do a piss poor job picking the correct phrases and then in any CGI scene, attempt to match mouth movement.

meka26112612d ago

Yea but the dialog is cringe in the main series as well, so not sure why you say DmC had cringe. I mean how about "yo yo yo, check this out" good I hate Nico lol.

DaDrunkenJester2612d ago

It's cringe regardless if the others were as well. I didn't say it's MORE cringe.

FrostedFire2614d ago

Combat, story, bosses. Ninja Theory did better than Devil may cry 5. The pacing in Devil may cry 5 is so bad. The story is all over the place. Nothing gets explained.

thatguyhayat2614d ago

DmC was not the real Devil may cry. That game was too easy. I did enjoy it though. It should have been called something else

FrostedFire2614d ago

Fair enough. I think where DMC 5 lost me when it comes to combat is how they switched from characters even mid chapter and it never allowed you to really get into the groove with one character. Also kept introducing new weapons on Dante.

Lord_Sloth2614d ago (Edited 2614d ago )

@Repjaws Not once in DMC5 do they change your character mid mission at all.

Unspoken2613d ago

Combat system is terrible. I was hoping for Ninja Gaiden like combo system and was given the simplified, only need to push one button butchered version.

Guess they decided to implement it to keep the pacing up with the story. More of an interactive anime then a game. But at least it wasn't quick time events.

hulk_bash19872614d ago

Combat = Disagree, DMC5 > DmC
Story = Personal Preference
Bosses = Cant even remember any note worthy ones from DmC

DMC5 is a fun, fastpaced and glorious return to form for the series. And I loved every minute of it. DmC was an enjoyable but ultimately forgetful experience. IMO

Segata2614d ago

The only boss people ever refer to that they liked in DmC is the Raptor Fox news guy...whos mechanics were a worse version of Trickster from DMC3.

Dark_Knightmare22614d ago

Really there was the demon hunter in the first level and the news boss in raptor towers which is more inventive than any boss from dmc 5. Story is personal preference but Dmc was the first devil may cry game that had a story worth a damn imo. Dmc also has way better level design and traversal than Dmc 5. I know the hardcore DMC 5 fanboys are going to downvote because they love to act like Dmc is so horrible and killed their puppy but there’s a reason Itsuno really likes Dmc and why 5 took quite a bit of things from Dmc

Segata2614d ago

Dark_Knightmare2

According to the VA for Dante. Itsuno was ready to quit Capcom if they made DmC2 over letting him make his own game with DMC5. Says it all really.

TheOptimist2614d ago

Either obvious troll, or tried playing one of DMC 1-4 and couldn't get into it.

I can't see a person who has played 1-4 preferring DmC's combat, story and bosses over 5. I can agree that level design of DmC is better.

Dark_Knightmare22614d ago

Considering 1-4 stories were horrible what’s so hard to understand about people preferring Dmc story.

FACTUAL evidence2614d ago (Edited 2614d ago )

@Dark_Knightmare2
Ugh, didn’t want to say this but you’re trolling.........Dmc story is basically DMC3s and DMC1’s story together, but worse. So how can’t a fan of DmcNinjatheory can’t be a fan of 1-4?

FrostedFire2614d ago

Are you saying I couldn't get into any of the earlier games hence why I'm critical of the newer one? Out of some sort of frustration because I couldn't get into them? Or that I'm an obvious troll. I don't know what kind of rock you live under but people have different opinions. I see Devil May Cry 5 getting flawless reviews and people are loving it. That's great. They may have found something to like in the game that didn't pertain to my interests when I look at a game, fair enough. If I can admit that without putting them in two negative camps I'm sure you can be civil enough to not throw everything I said out a window and call me an obvious troll or saying I tried playing the previous games and couldn't get into them. I have played Dmc 3,4,5 and DmC.

FACTUAL evidence2614d ago (Edited 2614d ago )

@Repjaws

You trippin’ trippin. The dialouge, combat, and bosses didn’t even rival DMC3. 5 is definitely the best game since DMC4 hands down. The pacing in DMC5 was damned good, and the story was simply
followable even if you didn’t play previous DMC games.

It gets even better once you find out the truth later on. dmcNinjatheory’s story was just a sorry rehash of 3 but worse. Imo the only respectable aspect of the game was the combat, and it still didn’t rival DMC4’s combat.

Not to mention dmcNinjatheory had terrible level design choices. Seems like it had an idenity crisis, didn’t know if it was a platformer or hack n slash. I just can’t take anyone serious about dmc being better than DMC5. Hey, all and all, I’ll let you have your opinion since liking things are subjective. *shrugs*

DaDrunkenJester2614d ago (Edited 2614d ago )

I was with you until you said DmC has bad level design. That's simply false.

FrostedFire2614d ago

Did we play the same game? The game never explained why The big devil dude (Vergil's other half can't recall his fake name) kept Lady and Trish alive. I know he turned them into bosses but couldn't he do that without them? And if not then why? How did the Yamato seprate Vergil to make V and the big Devil dude? Just because plot? Why didn't Dante's sword do that? Just because plot? I recall V saying that the big Plant that stemmed from hell was so big because a lot of blood was sacrificed to it. So I'm guessing a lot of humans died because of Vergil. Does that ever get addressed? No it doesn't. Look the story in DMC 5 is just a backdrop for one note characters to beat shit up in, let's not beat around the bush. The pacing is terrible because it just cuts away from each character after every chapter even during mid chapters and no one character ever gets fully flushed out.

And to your point of DmC being a platformer? Like, are you serious? You mistook the level transitions for it being a platformer? Or is that just you going on a hyperbole?

":I just can’t take anyone serious about dmc being better than DMC5" translation: I can't take someone with a different opinion towards a game I like seriously. Okay dude.

FACTUAL evidence2614d ago (Edited 2614d ago )

@Repjaws
Replay the game without skipping the cutscenes. You will see why Urizen kept the two alive. Lol.

FACTUAL evidence2614d ago

Lol I can’t right now. Repjaws we already know of the properties between the 2 blades. They go over it too. Oh btw, go to the main menu and you have an option to see the story of DMC.

FrostedFire2614d ago

I didn't skip the cutscenes? And the game never explains where he kept both of them alive? To turn them into bosses? Why? How does that work? Why couldn't he do that with other people why only them? I did watch the video on the main menu it did nothing to explain as to why the Yamato separated Vergil into Urizen and V other than for plot reasons, same thing with Dante.

If I did manage to skip over those two essential parts of the story, please do tell me why they do those things. And don't just give me the "Because plot". At that point it just becomes lazy writing.

GameBoyColor2614d ago

@repjaws **SPOILERS**

Urizen took lady and trish to add to his power as they roam the world as bosses.

The yamato can seperate dimensions. So stabbing yourself will seperate demon from human. Creating the powerful true demon Urizen and fragile human being V.

Likewise stabbing yourself with rebellion will fuse human and demon, allowing dante to absorb Sparda and awaken the sin devil trigger. This was all explained in cutscenes dude. You just weren't paying attention or something

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just-joe2614d ago

A combat so great they had to revert back to the old system in the HD edition because it was so stupidly simple. And let's not forget that story original to anyone who's never seen The Matrix or They Live.

Segata2614d ago

It still wasn't the old combat. They just improved what DmC combat was but still is a far cry from DMC4 even let alone DMC5.

jeremyj29132613d ago

Thank you! Not to mention DmC's copy and paste story is spoon fed with no reason to ever use your brain. And there are literally cutscenes that look incomplete with no detail at all.

TheOptimist2614d ago

Based on your statement having played 3 and 4, if you are saying DmC did combat better than 5, you are also implying that DmC did combat better than 3 and 4, because we all know, DMC5's combat is just an extension of 4 with different weapons. Same goes with story, DMC5 may not be as good as 3, but it definitely is better than 4 and feels like a closure to 3 and 1's story. Bosses? Really? Apart from Vergil, I didn't like any boss in tDmC, all involved platforming and the boss sat at one place. I loved Angelo Cavaliere, V's Chartiot boss, Vergil, Cerberus from DMC5. Let's say bosses are subjective.

I still find you saying DMC5's combat and story being worse than DmC is full of oxymorons.

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tinchotin2614d ago

It was better at pissing off the fan base, and destroying Dante's and Vergil's characters.

Dark_Knightmare22614d ago

How did it destroy their characters?

FACTUAL evidence2614d ago

Here’s one, they made dante a sex crazed asshole. He wasn’t like that in any of the games. Not even young dante was like that. The way they had dante is like if you made crash bandicoot intelligent.

Shinox2614d ago

Are you for real asking this dumbass question

Dark_Knightmare22614d ago (Edited 2614d ago )

@factual evidence lol are you serious Dante never acted sex crazed in the game unless you’re talking about the opening montage where he’s in nightclub for all of like 10 seconds

tinchotin2614d ago

In DmC Vergil has no honor, uses a sniper rifle to abort a baby demon, wants to rule the world.

Segata2614d ago

Just look at the first meeting with Dante & Vergil in DMC3. Dante tells Vergil this party sucks. Vergil says in a classy way he's sorry and didn't have time for preparations. Dante is mouthy in a goofball way and Vergil plays along in a more classy way. It makes them great. DmC...DER I GOT A BIGGER DICK!....how would he even know? If you look at late 90s and early 2000s game characters they were often edgy and dark. Kamiya set out to make a character who was cool who didn't smoke drink or swear. DmC Donte..drinks swears and in the initial trailer smokes during a time every major action game of the era was that. Edgy and dark. He no longer stood above. He became just another edgelord. Another brick in the wall.

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Dark_Knightmare22614d ago (Edited 2614d ago )

That’s because this was supposed to be a younger and more inexperienced Vergil not to mention him doing that isn’t some out of character thing. He has done way worse things throughout the series and for entirely selfish reasons at that

Redrex70002614d ago

one thing about vergil in Dmc
was that he was kind of useless
he did nothing for most of the story then u
had to save him during last mundus fight
then all of a sudden he became the final fight
from a story stand point were we really suppose to
believe he can stand toe to toe with dante
when in the story he needed dante to pretty much
do everything for him

MoshA2614d ago (Edited 2614d ago )

Thank God DmC got higher ratings than DMC3 and 4. Especially 4. Absolute garbage. I only respect DMC1 because it inspired successors like Bayonetta and God of War with superior gameplay and story.

TGGJustin2614d ago

It got about the same score as DMC4 and DMC3 actually was higher than DmC with an 87. Both are far better than the trash Ninja Theory put out.

Dark_Knightmare22614d ago (Edited 2614d ago )

Lol 4 is nowhere near as good as Dmc except it’s combat which is better. Man the hate hardcore DMC fanboys have for this game borders on obsessive it’s truly sad

MoshA2614d ago

DMC3 got 84 on PS2. Thank God DMC5 took obvious inspiration from DmC. The franchise was just pure cringe until now.

VileAndVicious2614d ago

4 was not a good game. Sure combat could be fun but people essentially paid $60 for game with a nonsensical story and back tracking halfway through.

xXxSeTTriPxXx2614d ago

Dmc 3 absolute garbage?WAIT?WHAT?

The game that redefined a genre garbage lmfao.

Shinox2614d ago

"DMC3 .. GARBAGE"
GTFO of gaming .

trooper_2614d ago

DMC 3 wasn’t garbage. Get out with that crap.

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Devil May Cry Games Ranked, Worst to Best

With the release of the Devil May Cry series on Netflix, we take a moment to look back on this almost 20-year-old series and let you know the best of the best.

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Dandalandan117392d ago

DMC2 ranked 2nd and also DmC ranked 3rd?
What a load of BS!

ABizzel1392d ago

IMO

6. DMC2 6/10
5. DMC4 7.5/10 (Hated Nero, repeat bosses, Dante was the saving grace but only about half the game)
4. DmC 7.5/10 (solid overall, some great ideas, meh story, dialog sucked, and the director almost killed DMC)
3. DMC1 8.5/10 (all around solid)
2. DMC5 9/10 (carried by Dante & Nero gameplay, I didn’t like V’s, Nero’s better but still not a fan)
1. DCM3 10/10 (chef’s kiss)

Vits392d ago

Well, it worked.

This nothingburger of a opinion article got a lot of views and comments.

Pyrofire95391d ago

WHAT!? who in their right mind would put 2 near the top (not at the bottom) unironically?
I think all of them are worth playing in their own right honestly, except 2 unless you REALLY want to experience the whole series.

FinalFantasyFanatic391d ago (Edited 391d ago )

I honestly don't know what the author was smoking, personally I'd rank DMC3 as no.1, maybe DMC5 as second, DMC1 as third, DMC4 as fourth, and DMC as fifth and DMC2 last. such a bizarre list, mybe the author just has strange taste.

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lellkay392d ago

DMC2 anywhere but last is crazy. Awful list overall.

BlaqMagiq1392d ago

"Devil May Cry 2 isn’t trash. It’s just misunderstood by a fanbase that doesn’t like change."

This and putting DMC 2 number 2 is all I need to ignore this ranking. DMC2 is absolute trash and it's clear this person doesn't understand exactly why.

Flenter392d ago

For me: 3,1,5,4,2 and then .....Dmc

fsfsxii392d ago (Edited 392d ago )

Why is DmC last? Genuinely curious.

lellkay392d ago (Edited 392d ago )

Dmc is far superior to DMC2 come on

generic-user-name392d ago

"almost 20-year-old series"

It's 24 years old.

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'Platinum Collection' build-your-own bundle features Steam Deck-compatible games and saves over $400

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DmC: Devil May Cry - So Good They Named it Twice

DmC: Devil May Cry launched 10 years ago to critical acclaim, but caused a significant stir amongst fans of the series.

SDuck1209d ago

all in all, it was the 2nd most replayed by me (first being dmc5)

Godmars2901209d ago

Named it twice cause they lacked imagination.

ApocalypseShadow1209d ago

No matter how many times they try to push this game, I'll never play it.

But the PR keeps pushing it and pushing it when other DMC games are better and sold better.

TheLigX1209d ago

Lol that’s absurd. You must be a real charmer.

Sgt_Slaughter1209d ago (Edited 1209d ago )

Ah we're at that point in time where failed games end up being needlessly defended and pushed as "underrated" or "gems"

There's a reason this caused Capcom to go back to the traditional DMC franchise.

DMC V became the top selling game in the series by a longshot. Even the team was more eager to make a new DMC game rather than try and continue the DmC reboot/spin-off and listened to fan input for V.

CBaoth1209d ago (Edited 1209d ago )

cue the puff pieces for Ninja Theory. Like what we saw happen with Deathloop and Tokyo, the MS marketing team is starting the hype machine early. So we see the revisionist history with their past games. Suddenly it's the best in the series lol. They've never made a bad game, they've just never made a successful one. Now, right or wrong because of the timing, their new game has the extra pressure of being the face of GP in 2022 alongside Starfield and Redfall. A lot of pressure for a studio that made its last game with 30 people. Let's hope 4th time's the charm