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Will Xbox dominate the next-generation?

Nick writes: "We all know that Microsoft started this generation poorly to say the least."

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AngainorG7X2756d ago

It could but it won't. It will do better than this generation that's for sure.

UltraNova2756d ago (Edited 2756d ago )

How does that work exactly? I mean how could the xbox dominate but wont? Is it playing hard to get or something?

Seriously though, explain...

PS: let me help you - if Sony launches a 500+ ps5 and it has almost no must have launch games and its underpowered in comparison to the xb2 then yeah I can see MS capitalizing on that....but we all know this will not happen.

Until then, Sony has a leg up due to their excellent studios pumping out awesome games, phenomenal performance this gen and most gamers positive mindset going in next gen.

Obscure_Observer2756d ago

First, Xbox needs to do better over themselves before anything else. They need to correct Mattrick´s mistakes by releasing a great console with a strong and quality AAA line up.

The X is a very powerful console which will give the new acquired/created Microsoft Studios the time they need to develop their next generation games.

Just like the X, i think that the next Xbox will have the power advantage again for two simple reasons.

1 - They will release the Scarlett after the PS5 just like they did with the X vs PS4 Pro.

2 - Unlike Sony and its $400 PS5, Microsoft will stick with their $500 console price tag, given the incredible fact that the X sold more units in 2018 than the cheaper S version, which exceds all expectations while showing that "premium" consoles has a strong market among console gamers.

JaguarEvolved2756d ago (Edited 2756d ago )

Xbox will sell less consoles next generation and it'll be even worse than this generation. I used to be a massive Xbox fan but over the years of waiting after listening to Microsoft making promises and never delivering i began to learn that they are mostly talk. The funny thing is the other console makers reps dont talk much but just releases amazing games and such.

I can't forget a lot of the promises made at the beginning of this gen and seeing a lot of hopeful Xbox gamers let down by the years of broken promises and I know a lot of those fans will not buy a next generation Xbox no matter the silly optics like Microsoft buying studios. On PlayStation there are always amazing games on the horizon with a lot of previews but on Xbox side it's just pure talk. There are zero Xbox exclusives to compel people to buy an Xbox and to me all the silliness I see going on with the Xbox makes me not interested in the slightest. I can only see gullible gamers, uninformed gamers and fanboys buying Xbox next generation.

Skull5212756d ago

Probably not. Foreign markets aren’t overly fond of Xbox. It’ll do great in the US though at that is the largest gaming market by far. It’ll certainly do better that the Xbox One. I also believe this next gen will be unlike any other and won’t be able to be judged purely on consoles sold, things will be different, streaming and subscriptions are going to go mainstream.

CorndogBurglar2756d ago

Xbox will not dominate. Even if it were to win next gen, it won't dominate the way PS4 did this gen.

Reasons it will not dominate:
1. PS4 is loved by a worldwide audience. Even if MS is the better console next gen, too many people love PS across the world. Hell, Xbox can't even sell in Japan, which is an big market.

2. Fallout from Xbox One. Too many people jumped ship from Xbox to PS before the consoles even launched this gen, simply because of their idiotic launch plans and the poor way they handled that. (Poor decisions and lies.) There is a large amount of customers that will stick with PS now after all of that, especially after experiencing all of Sony's exclusives this gen. Why would they go back to Xbox?

DarkVoyager2756d ago (Edited 2756d ago )

@Skull521

“I also believe this next gen will be unlike any other and won’t be able to be judged purely on consoles sold“

You only say that because you know deep down Xbox doesn’t stand a chance against PlayStation.

It always is and always will be about the games. That’s why PS4 is dominating and PS5 will do the same.

NXFather2756d ago

They are not willing to spend enough money but, alot more than this go. It will probably loose again most likely.

fiveby92756d ago

Sony has one huge advantage all other things being equal. The existing install base with consumers is very large. Many people stick with what they know and are familiar. e.g. their friends are on PSN, existing library of games which will likely be backward compatible, etc. MS would need to provide a compelling reason to jump ship. That will be difficult to do.

yomfweeee2756d ago (Edited 2756d ago )

@Obscure

- Microsoft has never done anything great with bought studios. They still have to prove they can do that.
- No way in hell Microsoft puts out a $500 console only. It would be suicide. Your "incredible fact" is not true (proof from NPD below). The X has not sold more units than the S. It has sold more revenue wise, but not in units. They need units out there to dominate.

https://www.resetera.com/th...

CarlDechance2755d ago (Edited 2755d ago )

"given the incredible fact that the X sold more units in 2018 than the cheaper S version, which exceds all expectations while showing that "premium" consoles has a strong market among console gamers"

What? lol...no. The fact that One X has outsold One S is NOT a demonstration of a "strong market" for anything. Outsell your COMPETITION and then we can talk about how strong that market is. You are pretending the market for One S was "strong".....ever.

Realms2755d ago

@ Obscure_Observer

How are they going to sell more consoles with the more power argument when they have their exclusives on PC? That is what some of you don't get it was a smart move for MS if we are to believe that the reason they did that was because the xbox one numbers combined with the S/X didn't even come close to Sony's. The reason they are pushing for MS everywhere streaming is because they aren't too confident that they will ever really compete with Sony so their best bet is to allow their games on PC, Tablets, phones, consoles and effectively transitioning away from a consoles and more into a streaming service where you won't need an xbox.

DarXyde2755d ago

"PS: let me help you - if Sony launches a 500+ ps5 and it has almost no must have launch games and its underpowered in comparison to the xb2 then yeah I can see MS capitalizing on that....but we all know this will not happen"

Actually... that's pretty much how the PS3 launched and it still outperformed Xbox 360. It wasn't weaker per se, but the early games weren't great and X360 had the better version of a lot of multiplatform games thanks to CELL being so difficult.

But I do believe the next Xbox will likely be more powerful. I don't really care, Sony consistently proves that their teams can do some crazy stuff while working within the parameters of a console's specs. Case in point: first party titles on Pro. There's no doubt Sony will have compelling software, but I'm definitely not getting an Xbox until maybe year 4 or 5, if at all.

trooper_2755d ago (Edited 2755d ago )

@Obscure: The ship sailed a long time ago. They're promising and not delivering.

KwietStorm_BLM2755d ago

You just asked, answered and explained it yourself. It could because it's a possibility. Nobody knows what will happen, and nothing is definite. PS3 didn't dominate like PS2 and PS1 did. But will Microsoft *dominate* next gen? Probably not.

indysurfn2755d ago

This article keeps saying:"ethic driving forward this ever-growing and ever-learning brand is also manifesting itself with the business decisions Xbox have been showcasing recently."

Last time I checked Microsoft has been relying on halo, gears, and forza for THREE Straight consoles without LEARNING a thing, except to say they are learning. Last time I checked they made those 3 games no longer xbox1 only. And they killed off first party and stated GAAS (rent to never own) as there future. And Multiplayer service games as there future. Somes like they are bull headed and going backwards.

TheSaint2755d ago

With how far behind Xbox is this gen Sony would HAVE to mess up really badly.

That being said, I'm just hopeful that MS can catch up to Sony, forget beating them this gen, just be as good as the competition;

UltraNova2755d ago

KwietStorm,

I was criticized recently of not making my self clear so...

Btw did you really believe I expected/wanted his answer there? Smh...

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Eonjay2756d ago (Edited 2756d ago )

There are a few things.
Basically as Nova stated, Sony has to make getting the PS5 prohibitively expensive.
Otherwise there is no reason to think that Sony wont dominate.
PS4 consumers seem to be too satisfied.
Another reason that makes it almost impossible is the fact that digital media has lock a lot of peoples content in a way that they couldn't sell it and there is no reason to get rid of it.
Therefore, Microsoft would need to capture it entire xbox one base plus convert many many PlayStation customers (like well over 50%) into multiconsole owners or somehow expand the market into casuals in the way that the Wii was able to do.

alb18992756d ago (Edited 2756d ago )

The way we use to buy a console and games are changing very fast and the way MS will reach the people is very attractive.
I mean, gamepass and what they have show what will be project Scarlett. It is something to think about.
You will have the possibility to play every Xbox games even on your cellphone.
All the studios that MS is buying plus the minds that did the best games are working together in the new games.
But I know that Sony will do his move too but the technology is moving too fast and the company that are not prepared for the drastics and big changes trends to fall.
Xbox has Asure servers on his side and all the power of money.
But when I try in the near future to play on any device I will tell you who will win because if MS can make you play without lag on every decide I think we have a winner......at least where you can get good internet.

alb18992756d ago

The variety of consoles and prices will be very different next generation. Let's wait and see.

UltraNova2756d ago

Its funny how the #1 point MS and their fans like to keep reminding us, that is the digital future and everything it entails(digital games, gamepass etc) is the very thing that will keep them firmly stuck in the second or third position forever. You see as Enjoy already mentioned, and yours truly at various points recently, is that a user's digital library, be it digital buys, streaming services etc is an anchor to to that ecosystem, a heavy one at that. Plainly put, there are far more gamers with huge digital libraries on PS than there are on Xbox and these gamers will buy the ps5 just to be able to keep having access to said library. The fact the PS gamers are pretty darn happy with their choice of ecosystem is a bonus when moving from current to next gen.

MS has lost (spectacularly so,) during the most critical game distribution transitioning period ever and they will "pay" for their arrogance in perpetuity.

rainslacker2755d ago (Edited 2755d ago )

Didn't Sony release a prohibitively expensive console with the PS3, coupled with no compelling launch games(as Ultra states above, and can anyone say that MS truly dominated last gen, when they ended up roughly equal?

I think that MS realized based on Sony's performance last gen, that the price tag isn't as much of an issue as many made it out to be, which is probably why they were willing to go for that $500 price tag...because that was the entry level for the PS3 last gen, and inflation suggests it wouldn't be as much money comparatively speaking. However, MS problems this gen were more than just the price. Since they'll likely rectify some of that, or at least the perception in how it will be delivered is changing due to calculated moves to push online heavy games, they can probably get away with it being more covert about it.

Otherwise, I highly doubt that MS will dominate the next gen. They may be able to compete more closely with Sony though, and if they do well, they can at least maybe get rid of some of the negative stigmas surrouding their current generation.

I feel the X1X will end up being the entry level for next gen, like the OGX1 is now. Their new console will likely be at a higher price point. MS can probably release Scarlet after Sony, because for the early part of the gen, the 6TF of the X1X may be adequate enough to maintain next gen game support, since it usually takes a couple years before next gen consoles really start to show what they can do.

On the fan boy side of things, whether resolution and framerate matter will switch sides based on console preference, and Sony will somehow be the worst, most arrogant and consumer unfriendly company around with many articles about how concerned people are for Sony's future. But what do I know? I'm no analyst or anything.

@alb

The way we buy games isn't changing as fast as it may appear. Digital has seen modest growth in the console market. But many are still resistant or very much against it. There are more people buying software though, which means that there are more people willing to consume their media in that way. Things like streaming games is an option, but ultimately, for the next gen, since it's pretty close now, is going to be handled the same way as this gen if any company wants to maintain its user base. I doubt either company is going to go one way or the other, and while MS is the most likely to do that, I think they aren't ready to be so overt about it. They're going to take their time, and do it more subversively through their services, until they feel they're at the point where they can do away with digital media. But at that time, probably most of the console makers will do the same thing.

I'm not convinced the streaming version of Scarlet will make much headway. There have been a couple consoles which have either been all digital, or offered streaming as a core feature, and neither was that readily accepted. They both released at different times, but despite all the hooplah over MS streaming service, I don't think the market itself is really at a point that is going to accept it in a big way.

FinalFantasyFanatic2755d ago

@alb1899,

I don't think technology has really advanced that quickly, for a long time there things have been pretty stagnant, now that AMD's CPUs have become competitive again, we will probably see technology advanced rapidly. Not that it would necessarily matter to consoles since they tend to last more than 5 years each gen and need to be roughly the same price each gen for the base model. Now if only AMD would become competitive in the GPU space, but maybe Intel will take care of that.

As for digital games, most people become heavily entrenched in one or two services, I'm that heavily entrenched into Sony's ecosystem that buying games on a Microsoft console makes no sense unless I get it for a few exclusives. I view it like Apple's services, get people heavily invested in your service, that dumping it becomes horribly unappealing to anyone who thinks of changing their main console.

Anyway digital is still not the most popular way to purchase games, personally I always lose games in my digital library and forget when I do and don't own, physical is easier for me to keep track of.

shiva12755d ago

Why should a casual buy a console? Not into those expensive collectors anyway so the casual would always lean towards digital. Just buy a controller and start off with the device they own, would be a future for casuals.

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MoshA2756d ago

Even the ps3 outsold 360 lmao

DarkVoyager2756d ago (Edited 2756d ago )

@thexboxhub.com

“Will Xbox dominate the next-generation?”

Xbox will never dominate as long as PlayStation exist.

Sitdown2756d ago

This is true; brand loyalty is real. There is literally nothing that Microsoft can do about that.

rainslacker2755d ago

Sony could really screw up royally and push people away. But that won't likely happen as soon as next gen, and it would take quite a while for people to get fed up enough that they look elsewhere. Most of the conversion would likely be through attrition of users who just cut back their gaming habits, which is why most customers eventually go away. Truth is, the length of a generation is such that when new ones come out, as people get older, they're less likely to buy into a new generation, so the new gens rely on getting returning customers, but also being attractive to the newer gamers who have entered the market, and may not have as much console preference.

However, since most people's feelings about a console are based on their initial interaction with a console, or what they may have available, the console with the highest install base, is most likely to also have the most number of newer consumers who are already comfortable with it. They'll either have played it at a friends house, or their parents may have had one, or they just know more about it because it's more ubiquitous. MS makes a good play at keeping themselves in the front and center so today's social media connected world can't just not see something about it, but without the systems being out there for people to experience first hand, its harder to capture the consumers interest.

Which is where the games come in. People are generally more attracted to a game they want to play, than to the systems themselves. This is why Sony is willing to pay for Destiny, RDR2, or COD, or they're both willing to swap back and forth on AC. The recent example of RDR2, Sony sold the most copies, and while they do have a significantly higher install base, it's likely that Sony say more console sales through their marketing efforts, because in the marketing, the game was shown along side the PS brand logo. That kind of thing sticks with a lot of people, and the only ones who really know that RDR2 looked better on X1X, are those who would go to digital foundry, which isn't going to be the average gamer, because they generally don't care.

scofios2756d ago

They never won any generation what makes you think they willwin the next one ? Besides usa & uk nobody cares for the Xboox brand globally , an those daily pathetic articles won‘t magically make it happen.

MWH2756d ago

is your Crystal Ball made in china?

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Dark_Overlord2756d ago

I do think Sony will lose ground due to their regressive new censorship policy, but exactly how much, is to be seen.

Eonjay2756d ago

So Microsoft announces the next Xbox at E3 with titties flying everywhere and thats that? Are you saying that the content censored on PS4 will be available on the next Xbox uncensored? Otherwise I fail to see how Microsoft benefits.

badz1492755d ago (Edited 2755d ago )

flying titties FTW!

LongLiveKing2755d ago

LMAO! best comment I've seen on the site.

Bobafret2755d ago

You just sold me on the next Xbox. I am on board for flying tiddies.

RizBiz2755d ago

I'd buy the next XBox if every game has titties in it.

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lxeasy2755d ago

I think there's no doubt the Next Xbox console will outsell the current Xbox. But I think its too early to predict if it will dominate next gen. Nintendo and Sony are in good spots right now. Nothings impossible though no one saw the success of the 360 coming. Especially coming after the PS3 era which is still the highest selling console of all time. The next just needs to focus on playing ALL their cards right from beginning to end and they'll do great.

derek2755d ago

They were a year earlier then Sony, considerably less expensive, had better running third party games then on the competition and games like Gears were still new to the scene. And they still lost that generation. Let's get real.

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trooper_2755d ago (Edited 2755d ago )

Yes, Sony's going to lose ground over a few censored titles./s

L.O.L

rainslacker2755d ago

As much as I'm against the censorship policy, I don't think its going to affect them too much. Maybe in Japan, but even in Japan, the games that are getting censored are pretty niche, and most people there would probably be playing them on Switch anyways. Before Switch, the Vita was doing pretty well in Japan, and had quite a few of those kinds of games.

Outside Japan, it's not likely to matter at all. The Otaku gamer still has a lot to choose from, and the ones that really like gaming tend to play on multiple consoles....namely Nintendo and Sony consoles, since MS really doesn't have any unique content in that area to make it a consideration.

LongLiveKing2755d ago

I just read about this and that's AWFUL. Are we not in 2018??? This will ruin games. Easily. Just like when manhunt 2 was censored for whatever reason. That made the game terrible.

FinalFantasyFanatic2755d ago

Alot of those games will probably move elsewhere like Nintendo or Steam, I image that small number of sales will go to those guys.

nitus102755d ago (Edited 2755d ago )

I can agree with Steam or GoG, but Nintendo?

Nintendo is almost synonymous with child/teen/family-oriented games and is usually quite reserved when some games are more on the risqué side.

The problem as I see it is the so-called moral majority (well at least they think they are) in the USA frown on any game that has some sexually suggestive content although they don't seem to have any issue with murder and mayhem.

FinalFantasyFanatic2753d ago

@nitus10,

Have you heard of Senran Kagura Reflexions? I'm completely shocked it was released completely intact.

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Gardenia2756d ago

Xbox is 50% USA and UK. The rest of the world is mostly Playstation. This is not going to change

zsquaresoff2756d ago

You're being generous with 50% for US and UK. Its more like 45% US and 38% UK. Playstation is dominating both these regions so 50% is underplaying it.

Eonjay2756d ago

Counting the Switch, the PS4 would be less than 50% in the US so:
With switch
PS4 = 46
Xbox = 40
Switch = 4

Without Switch
PS4 = 54
Xbo = 46

StormSnooper2756d ago

USA is PlayStation, not sure about UK.

Dragonscale2755d ago

@storm, also PlayStation.

maximusprime_2755d ago

@stormsnooper, uk is Playstation. Believe me, I’m English and living in London surrounded by lot of Playstation adverts. Everyone I know got PS4 and older generation. Only one of my friend got Xbox one, (he had Xbox 360.)

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TempahRelapse2756d ago

Xbox is super popular in my city (Melbourne). It's not a flop like elsewhere

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RizBiz2755d ago

In your city, or among your immediate friend circles? There's absolutely no way XBone is selling anywhere near what PS4 is in Melbourne as a whole.

PhoenixUp2756d ago

Over 55% of all Xbox sales every generation come from North America

1/3 of all PlayStation sales every generation come from North America

In two cases PlayStation proved more successful than Xbox in North America, which speaks nothing about how PlayStation always clobbers Xbox in every other market.

CorndogBurglar2756d ago

While that's true, let's look at last gen. Xbox almost won last gen. It wasn't until the very end that Sony pulled ahead, and a large reason for that is that MS just didn't have the exclusives.

So yeah, worldwide customers is very Important, but there are clearly other things that can lead to MS winning. Console launch timing and price as well as a steady stream of exclusives being chief among those things.

IRetrouk2756d ago (Edited 2756d ago )

Ps3 was selling faster than the 360 for the whole gen, the only lead the 360 had was from the year in the us and the year and a half in europe it was on the market on its own, as soon as the wii and ps3 launched xbox was selling the least out of the 3, the fanboys used the us numbers to boast but very rarely looked at the worldwide numbers, then with the extra 8 mill or so from when it was on its own on market, that too was used to falsely claim the 360 was leading. All it takes is games, produce the games and the gamers will play them.

CorndogBurglar2755d ago

@ Iretrouk

I don't disagree with anything you said.

The fact is that MS releasing a year and a half early, and then Sony launching with a very high price led to MS taking a big lead early. It took most of the console generation for Sony to catch up and overtake them. That only happened because of what you are saying. Sony sold faster the whole generation. Mainly because of exclusives.

chiefJohn1172755d ago (Edited 2755d ago )

@Retrouk the 360 outsold PS3 by 20 million in America so taking 8 million away and giving it to PS3 wouldn't have change the mindset. If you're debating online about it you're gonna be talking to someone that know English which would mean they more than likely America or from the UK. Which the PS3 did not dominant. Japan and EU is what made them comeback. And I highly doubt you was reading Japanese online debating with someone from japan lol. Most ppl won't care about countries besides their own especially ones that don't speak the same language. Im sure you boast NPD results yourself can't get upset when someone else does it in their favor and go "but what about world wide?"

IRetrouk2755d ago

Find me a post where i boast about any npd numbers, its ok ill wait.
Spin whatever way you like, the ps3 from day 1 outsold the 360, you can break it down by region if you want but then thats just cherry picking, the exact same thing xbox fanboys were doing last gen and the reason for my original comment, ive never boasted about numbers, just used them to correct some false narratives.

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FallenAngel19842756d ago

@ Corn

Xbox 360 was never close to winning because Wii was always pulling ahead of it.

Btw Xbox 360 had plenty of exclusives

CorndogBurglar2755d ago

At first 360 had plenty of exclusives. But they stopped pushing those out towards the last half of the generation.

And yeah, I'm only comparing MS and Sony.

FallenAngel19842755d ago

Just because 360 didn’t have as many exclusives later on its life doesn’t mean Xbox 360 had no exclusives period

It’s always important to factor Nintendo into this though

conanlifts2755d ago

what about Canada, Australia, Ireland, New Zealand. They are also big Xbox markets.

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conanlifts2755d ago (Edited 2755d ago )

@prettygoodgamer. As someone who lives in Australia I can confirm that Xbox is popular here. As for Xbox One and PS4 I would say PS4 has outsold Xbox, but it wouldn't take a huge amount next gen to swap it back.

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Imortus_san2756d ago (Edited 2756d ago )

Not a chance, they had to much bad press this gen.

lxeasy2755d ago

PS3 had bad press and they were able to turn things around withe PS4. So I I doubt the bad press on Xbox from 2013 will hold over in 2019 - or 2020 when ever the new Xbox comes out.

rainslacker2755d ago (Edited 2755d ago )

Yeah, but the bad press from Sony last gen was mostly pointless, and only really pertained to the first couple years of the gen. After Sony started pushing out high profile, highly respected games, most of the criticism stopped.

MS isn't doing what Sony did to rectify the situation for this gen, and it's unknown right now if they will even bother. Its possible that MS could spend a year or two pushing out some high profile games, or even better mid-tier games, and all could be forgotten...because honestly, the community does seem to have a short attention span. But, as they have things now, it seems they're setting themselves up more to have a stellar launch for next gen. But they've had stellar launches before...twice actually...and both times, they've faltered halfway through the gen.

MS hasn't actually had as much criticism in the press as Sony had last gen, at least after the initial 180's, but at the same time, they have gotten worse every year with their software line up, and haven't done anything to really turn things around. Most of the things they've done which are good, aren't the kind of things that are important for choosing a console. On top of that, most of the positive vibes that MS get are from MS itself acting like everything is great, and making a lot of promises, without actually bringing the stuff out that they are being criticized for.

Sony's been solid all gen, and kept delivering since pretty much day one.

I do think that the bad press, or at least the feelings in the community since the press isn't really that negative towards them right now, will carry over for MS next gen. It doesn't appear to me in any way that MS has shaken this perception that they aren't in it for the reasons that most of us care about....which is delivering good games. They have some great stuff to offer outside that one thing, but again, those aren't the primary things that people look for in a console.

In short, the press seems more than happy to tow MS company mantra that they're doing great, and will be great, but the only people in the community that I see that believe that are the rather stout Xbox fan boys.

FinalFantasyFanatic2755d ago

I still remember the media screaming, PS3 has no games, and yet, it was on par or better by the end of the gen.

chiefJohn1172755d ago

Not really, sony lost 40 million consoles. People get too strung up on comparing both when they should be comparing these consoles to their previous gen/YOY. Each gen is a fresh start. The mistakes of PS3 wasn't made with PS4 so it didn't suffer and why would it? You can always potentially win people over and back over that you lost.

paintedgamer19842754d ago

Lol the xbox has bad press since it inception. Many of us just chose to ignore its shortcommings because of power, exclusives, price, and services...

The original xbox was amazing. But my biggest gripe was they killed it off too quickly in favor of the 360.

The 360 was my console of choice until my 4th rrod and by then ps3 was kicking ass

And the xb1 gen in its intirety was a lesson on what not to do ever as a console maker...

So to say " So I I doubt the bad press on Xbox from 2013 will hold over in 2019 - or 2020 when ever the new Xbox comes out" is utterly incorrect... id say from about 2007/2008------ to the present... thats over 10 years of bleeding xbox fans to other platforms

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UnholyLight2755d ago

There's certainly a point to be made there if you ask me. On the flip side though, I do believe they will come out swinging and with a massive and concise vision and marketing strategy. They made so many mistakes this gen and I think what hurt them the most was the original vision for the Xbox One under Don Mattrick. The damage was done and then they lacked the real exclusives to convince people that things were different later on.

Never count Microsoft out, they're gonna hit it hard next gen and yeah maybe they really dropped the ball this gen but I think it will really inspire some great products moving forward and was a needed reality check. It's a common thing that happens in the business world when a large company thinks they are incredible and making a great product (dowager brand example) only to lose the lions share to the competitor with the more concise vision and gameplan like Sony did with the PS4

FallenAngel19842756d ago

How is that a legitimate question?

Xbox can’t even even come out on top in Europe, Asia, and the rest of the world.

Even when Xbox 360 eventually won the North American market, it still ended up last in the global market. Now that North American gamers are just as fond of PlayStation and Nintendo brands nowadays, it seems even more unlikely for Xbox to claim victory in even that territory next gen.

UltraNova2756d ago

The US is in a self-contained and impervious barrier so... US>>>rest of the wolrd as far as they are concerned. You are wasting your breath.

jznrpg2755d ago (Edited 2755d ago )

Not true at all. Every person I know in the U.S only has a PS except for one adult and 2 kids . The adult just wanted Killer Instinct but doesnt use it anymore . In the poorer areas people still buy Xbox I have noticed when traveling, uneducated about the differences of systems. I had a few Xbox people tell me SpiderMan was coming out on Xbox too at the store and didn’t believe me when I told them it wasn’t

chiefJohn1172755d ago (Edited 2755d ago )

People usually don't gaf what goes on in other countries besides their own so ya lol. An American won't care or debate about what's popular or the hot thing in Asia.

chiefJohn1172755d ago (Edited 2755d ago )

Americans always been fond of those brands they been around way longer than Xbox lol. 99% of Xbox fans owned a ps or Nintendo console a one point in their life (kids not included due to age)who didn't have a ps2 or ps1, snes? Your acting like ps and Nintendo new or something.
Xbox isn't dominanting world wide best they can hope for is NA. 360 told us everything we needed to know. Outsold PS3 by 20 mill in NA but still PS3 tied/surpassed it. Xbox isn't popular enough in the EU and Asia like you said.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot24d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle24d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7724d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Relientk7728d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Outside_ofthe_Box29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300029d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7229d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit28d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania29d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit28d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0728d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr29d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box29d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr29d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9529d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7229d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit28d ago (Edited 28d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--29d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7229d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket29d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm29d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde29d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9228d ago (Edited 28d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_29d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted29d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania29d ago (Edited 29d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit28d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9228d ago (Edited 28d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT29d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers29d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14929d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0728d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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