A recent Obsidian tweet might mean the company has plans for making a remaster of their 2010 espionage roleplay game, fans believe
One of Eidos-Montréal's cancelled projects, a Lord of the Rings title with a Telltale-like story, gets its first look, revealing the setting.
The third mainline Horizon is expected to be a long ways off, as a majority of Guerrilla Games is working on Hunters Gathering.
What a waste of their time, it would be a lot different if it was a small team of theirs helping an external studio or something but to have this be one of the teams main games is just overall sad to hear.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think we need Horizon 3 right now as I don't think there's much they could really do to make it stand out from Horizon II but I wanted to see a new IP from them to give the Horizon franchise some breathing space so when we did get Horizon 3 it would feel more fresh. Horizon II was a good game but you could tell when playing that it was just a sequel which felt like the main appeal was just being a more super refined version with a lot of quality of life improvements compared to the first game, even then it felt it was struggling at times to really stand out, maybe it was because it was a PS4/PS5 cross play title and didn't get to take advantage of the PS5 new tech who knows.
If this game flops, it's just going to give people more of an excuse online to hate on the franchise even more and might end up hurting the anticipation for Horizon 3. They were better off doing a new IP or a reboot of Killzone
Exactly. Sony seems to be getting things exactly wrong with Horizon. It's the type of IP that needs to disappear for a few years and then come back with a third game that really feels like an evolution from 2, rather than just an iterative sequel, like 2 was from 1. It isn't the type of franchise that is going to support a ton of spinoffs.
After watching that trailer...the chances of it flopping are pretty high. That trailer did not look good. Disappointing because I actually enjoy the Horizon series, but Hunters Gathering looks like it will miss the mark.
For the love of God... don't believe this. This whole story is engagement farming and is based on a one word tweet without context. The obsession with every whim of Jason Scherer is stupid.
The way Sony is trying to Disneyfy horizon is already hurting any interest I have in the franchise
I'm just hired of the whole thing now honestly it feels oversaturated even though we only have two mainline games
We have two live service games, a VR game a movie coming and remasters of the first game
I'm over it
Honestly, I can't say I mind this. Forbidden West was a good game but it didn't exactly leave me desperate for it's successor.
Well I loved the first game, and while i acknowledge how much of a step up the second game, was it's insane! I absolutely did not like the second game from a gameplay standpoint. It seemed woefully unbalanced and a shocking amount of glitches that I'm surprised review sites did not report on.
But this series is a rare case of "just because it sells gangbusters, doesn't mean it's popular" like yes the mainline series sells a ton, but you wouldn't know looking at how it has failed to enter pop culture like God of War has. So trying to sell things by throwing it's name around just isn't going to work, the flop that was the lego game was proof enough of that, and this may be exhibit B for the same case.
I hope im wrong, i mean who doesn't want more fun games, but i just don't see it, and i hope their next game is a new IP cause otherwise it's gotta be so good it cleanses my pallet of the bad taste forbidden west left in my mouth
Indeed. I glitched in between obstructions on more than one occasion. I also remember gliding for an extended period of time and the game abruptly blacked out for a few seconds. I thought it crashed but it came back on. That was on the PS4 version of the game.
More than a few occasions i was getting trapped inside geometry and would have to fast travel or die to eacape, also had like 4 campfires i could not use because it would spawn me in the ground. Also has an issue where the longer my play session the worse the framerate would get till it was no bs like 3fps and i would have to restart the application which kinda sucks when you're in the middle of a loooong fight mid mission. I actually stopped playing for a few weeks until that specific problem got patched. This was all on the ps5 version for me
I had an excellent experience with Forbidden West because I didn’t play it until the complete edition released a year and half after the original release date. I’ve learned a long time that it’s best to wait until these big games are patched up because they almost always have bugs and glitches when they first release.
I am confused. What was wrong with the Horizon 2 gameplay?
The focus of the game was to use the appropriate weapons to detatch craftable parts before killing the machine. This added a lot of challenge to the fights. They also revamped the melee system to allow alloy to do combos and special abilities were added that applied buffs.
Can you provide examples?
Maybe they rebalanced it after the fact but playing through it at launch and the few months that followed, if you werent using corrosion/acid in the late game, you were getting your a$$ handed to you ESPECIALLY with the final boss fight. Literally had to load a previous save because i didn't have any major corrosion weapons for the final fight, and it wasn't an isolated incident as lots of people were online having the same experience. Also ran into more than a few enemies that just seemed to have crazy overpowered attacks for literally every situation like the Babboons and the shellsnappers, ESPECIALLY the shellsnappers that just spam the leap attack then burrow into the ground constantly giving little to no opportunity to target weak points.
The mellee ststem was fine except a few melee pit challenges, those got real stupid near the end getting one shot before i could even move after the timer.
I think the best way of looking at it is Sony seems to want to force the success as quick as possible rather than letting it happen naturally over a longer period of time.
God of War has been nurtured for a long time and even when the series started to get stale and over done (there was far too many games coming out) they paused long enough to softboot it with the 2018 God of War that lifted it straight back to the top.
Horizon hasn't been on that journey and even if you compare it to Killzone, a franchise where even by the release of Shadow Fall started to feel a little stale, has had more content (not just games) thrown out in 9 years since the first release compared to what Killzone had in the same period, Shadow Fall being the last game released in its 9th year.
It's weird to think about, but the gap between God of War: Ascension and the 2018 Reboot was basically the same as the gap between the first two Horizon games (five years). I guess the fact that most people (including me) stopped at GOW 3 made it seem longer.
Yeah there's a weird phenomenon where sometimes things sell because they are in the right time and place not because they are amazing and phenomenal successes in every aspect sometimes something needs to be just good enough
Horizon to me feels like the franchise especially 2that's just good enough in most regards Nd it came early in the ps5s life but you don't see a cult following like you do mass effect or the last of us most people are like ok cool that was fun enough and leave it at that
I actually think we will see a massive drop off for 3 because people will feel like it's crossed the bridge to being to much
"sometimes things sell because they are in the right time and place"
In a way it feels like that is true for Horizon (particularly the second one), but the series is also notorious for launching near major competition. The first one launched right before BOTW (different platform, but it still resulted in a ton of comparisons), and the second one launched at almost the same time as Elden Ring.
The studio behind Days Gone had their next big project cancelled, but it's not entirely lost, as we have unearthed content from "Mirror Pond."
Sony could print money with Days Gone 2 but instead they want to make this live service crap. There are too many shooters already dominating the market. This does not look or sound unique in any way that will draw a huge playerbase other than the initial launch.
A Days Gone sequel, or live service game. Human camps battling to take over and control the others camp, capture the flag. Using different kinds freakers as pawns on the battlefield.
Once in a while a horde of varying size descends on the battle field, enemies have to team up to survive the onslaught.
It’s fine to make gaas , just not buy some of the best of the best single player game studio makers.. the risk is big, and a massive flop would cause irreversible damage,..
Not really days gone wasn't a big hit. The vast majority of its sales came after it was deeply discounted. I played it at launch and didn't even bother finishing it. Game was FULL of jank and certainly didn't represent the quality that ps studios are known for. Played more like an xbox 1st party game imo.
Nah, it had nothing to do with how it played. It just didnt meet expectations for a sequel to be invested in.
-"There are too many shooters already dominating the market."
I don't get it: saying this right after confidently believing DG2 would sell like hotcakes seems like a contradiction.
It didn't even sell well enough to do a sequel in the first place. How would they print money?
Bend wasted time so there's no need in wasting time talking about this. What are Bend working on now is the question.
I’m glad they took this hit for multiplayer games. First party single player is what got them to the top. There is room for them to make multiplayer games but they need to be much more selective about it.
Most first party single player games dont keep people playing.without a robust multiplayer component.Thats part of the issue. Sometimes it takes 5 to 6 years for games to be finished and they are getting more expensive to make so the risk is bigger. I liked days gone but it wasn't as well recieved as other 1st party games. Sony cant just do single player only lgames anymore. The industry has changed.
that's only an issue if you're looking to cash in on MTs. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a great single player title not maintaining players.
@Reaper_22
This is 100% correct but we live in a world where people are dishonest about reality in favor of their own feelings.
Of course Sony has to pursue more than just single player games. They have the data. They can see what people are playing. They HAVE to invest in LS. For them not to do so would be malpractice as they are a corporation. Sony needs to find a way to reduce the development times but the whole industry is dealing with that.
@Seraphim
Why would the biggest company in the gaming industry be the only major publisher not pursuing MT/LS?
It doesn't make sense. Of course there is nothing wrong with Single Player and they are continuing to release SP but they must learn to walk and chew gum at the same time.
this concept would be a great way to reboot the Killzone franchise.
AP had a good concept but bad technical performance and lack of polish. but these things are what GG are good at. and HZD already prepared them for making an non-liner action/RPG. with this they can combine what they learned from the 2 franchise.
so my idea for the Killzone reboot would be:
- a sandbox warzone like in MGS5
- the mission/narrative system of Alpha Protocol
- the gun-play of Killzone games
- the streamlined RPG systems of HZD with a dash of Killzone Mercenary.
Definitely something to watch
Now, why on earth would they want to do that? Complete garbage gameplay, story, not to mention horribly broken with bugs. The game got terrible reviews and was a laughing stock.
Yes please!!
It was a decent game with some rough technical issues.