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The Problems with Microsoft's Xbox All-Access Plan

With all the praise this has been receiving, there are a few oversights. Microsoft is clearly hoping to boost console numbers shipped for this generation by making a more approachable deal for new customers, but there are some problems with the deal.

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Kribwalker2805d ago

lol this is fake news.

“1. Financing is Required by Dell Preferred Account

If you think that Microsoft is just going to hand these consoles out willy-nilly, you have another thing coming. While Microsoft is offering no upfront cost for this and 0% APR for these 24 months, you still have to get approved”

so, instead of them just handing it out to anyone and hoping to get paid they make sure you are able to pay. How is that a problem with All Access?

2. Xbox All Access is Only Available at Microsoft Stores

and?

3. The Next Generation

Even if you apply for this now, you’ll be paying on this until late 2020. While there is no official date for when Microsoft’s next console will come out, rumors have pointed it to as early as 2019. When this generation started, Microsoft abandoned its previous console immediately.

They had games coming out for the 360 all the way until shadow of the tomb raider, a full 2 years after release. Hell they even released Forza Horizon 2 and titanfall the first year

4. Warranty

Microsoft states in its terms that while you will be paying for this for two years, the warranty is only good for one.

it’s the exact same warranty as you would get buying it outright. No difference

darthv722805d ago

Dell is footing the bill for the credit terms but getting approved is on the individual, not MS fault if people dont qualify. It's like that for anything you finance, it's on you to be able to qualify... not the creditor.

MS stores arent nearly as accessible as say an Apple store so that can pose a problem for people in outlying areas. I would figure they wold have an online setup to do this. Especially in this day and age but it may have to do with verification of information in person where as some can fake all sorts of documents online.

This promo is not aimed at those who want to wait for next gen so I don't see the relevance. this is more geared towards the casual consumer as a low cost means of taking advantage of what's available now.

Warranty periods generally do not go for the life of the loan. I don't know of any warranty that does that. Not even for an automobile or a home and if you want extended warranty's then that is usually an option but not every financier offers them.

About the only down side to this offer is the MS store part. Like i said, they are out there but nowhere near as common as Apple stores. MS should offer this through Best buy or Walmart as well. Both of those retailer offer financing. They are basically the middle man in this and both deal with Dell as well.

Kribwalker2805d ago

i agree with that. The only problem i see with them offering these financing services elsewhere is convincing Bestbuy or Walmart to either forgo their own financing departments (which can be quite lucrative) for the dell account or convince them to allow 0% interest on their financing. I’m sure they have worked out a deal with dell so they could prolly do the same with others

Jay7672804d ago

no way Microsoft going release their next Xbox in 2019 especially if sony release their next console in 2020. Because Microsoft don't want to have the weaker console anymore and them releasing before sony they will.

MasterCornholio2804d ago

They also don’t want the console to be more expensive than Sony’s. Kind of tricky to release a more powerful console at the same time as the competition with the same or lower price. Sony only managed to do that because Microsoft bundled the X1 with Kinect and made some poor hardware decisions.

bluefox7552804d ago

Seeing the sales of the X, I don't think they're going to care so much about having a weaker console next gen. Letting Sony get a head start and carry their momentum will be a far bigger concern for them, or at least it should be.

Zerobalance2803d ago

After reading this "no story artical" l felt l had to redress the imbalance in this blatant anti Xbox story but...thankfully you have said every l was thinking, so thank you and keep flying the Xbox flag.

FallenAngel19842805d ago

Does anybody really expect this to dramatically increase sales

Kribwalker2805d ago

no i don’t think they do. It’s just another option for consumers

darthv722805d ago

No and I dont think MS does either. They just see it as an additional revenue stream.

gangsta_red2805d ago

It's not about increasing sales of their Xbox at this point. MS is more focused on getting as many active users and subcription purchases as possible.

MasterCornholio2804d ago (Edited 2804d ago )

But wouldn’t a larger user base translate to more subscriptions and MAUs?

I mean you can’t sell Xbox Live and Gamepass without selling Xbox’s (PC excluded for simplicity).

blm5042804d ago

Master Corn hole don't worry about Microsoft i heard somewhere that they have some deep pockets

gangsta_red2804d ago

@Mastercorn
"But wouldn’t a larger user base translate to more subscriptions and MAUs?"

And this is why they are trying to get Xbox's in every home by any means possible.

To clarify, they are trying to sell Xbox's but they're not trying to win some console war, especially against Sony at this point. They would rather try and get a console in every house through whatever financial options a user can afford and then make money off of the subscriptions from it.

MasterCornholio2804d ago (Edited 2804d ago )

@Red

“To clarify, they are trying to sell Xbox's but they're not trying to win some console war, especially against Sony at this point. They would rather try and get a console in every house through whatever financial options a user can afford and then make money off of the subscriptions from it.“

Not every household has a PlayStation so in order for that to happen Microsoft will have to try hard to outsell the competition. In the end that would win them “ the console war”.

I think what makes more sense is while they will always have a smaller install base and not have a console in every household, the addition of optional subscriptions will help counter the loss in revenue for selling less systems than the competition on the market.

CarlDechance2804d ago

"And this is why they are trying to get Xbox's in every home by any means possible. "

Which means it is all about increasing sales of Xbox, whether via straight up sale or financed. It makes total sense.

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Godmars2902804d ago (Edited 2804d ago )

Don't think its about increasing sales, more about solidifying the user base. To get consumers into an active, committed, relationship with or the Xbox brand.

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King_Noctis2804d ago

Why would anyone expect that? This is just an option for consumers.

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nawaf262804d ago

It's just an option and a really good one because not everyone can afford to spend 500 on a console ... Who doesn't want to have options ?!!!

SierraGuy2804d ago

$34.99 a month is expensive. If MS loved you they'd offer it for $25.99.

Kavorklestein2804d ago

$400 for a PS4 Pro is expensive.
If Sony Loved you, they'd offer it for $100.
See?! I can make absolutely bogus claims about companies not "loving" people too!
If MS offered it any cheaper then people would be saying it's "Too Cheap" and that Xbox sux etc...

Some people will never be pleased no matter what happens.

Tross2804d ago

This service plan is fuelled by corporate greed and a disdain for used games, rather than a genuine interest in gauging what the consumer wants. Ergo, as a consumer I'll do my part and avoid this plan like the plague.

thexmanone2804d ago

Will you buy me a Xbox, I don`t have the money right now.

Tross2804d ago

I refuse to believe someone like yourself who appears to be a huge Xbox fan wouldn't have an XB1 of some kind by now, and why should I pay for your entertainment, which isn't exactly a need? Also, a PS4 is cheaper even if you spring for a Pro, and will play the new Spider-Man game. Just saying. And no, sorry, I don't buy game consoles for strangers, although I do sense your question is rhetorical anyways.

optimus2804d ago (Edited 2804d ago )

what the consumers want are options, and Microsoft is providing that to them....how many of them cried out that they really want an xb1-x but $500 was too much to shell out, plus the games, plus the subscriptions to gold and gamepass?....now you can run out and get that X for a mere $35...with the games, with the subscription....and not no 2 week or 1 month trial either. $35 out the door and into your home...."what a bargain."😎 🎮

Prem8tuaProcrastin8a2804d ago

I swear, have none of the people ragging on this ever had a credit card? And its better than buying on a cc, it's 0% Apr FFS.

yarbie10002804d ago

Don't act as if there aren't a ton of credit cards that offer introductory rates of 0% APR for 1yr+. Amazon is currently doing 24 month 0% APR. This is literally all this plan is

Prem8tuaProcrastin8a2804d ago

So buying a console on a 0% Apr cc is fine, but this isn't? Wtf? If you buy an x1x on a cc you don't get gp and gold included.

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Games Done Quick is coming to Europe for the first time with 3 days of Gamescom speedruns

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Microsoft Lowers the Price of Xbox Game Pass Ultimate And PC Game Pass, But What’s Next For Xbox?

Xbox Game Pass Ultimate is getting cheaper but Call of Duty is leaving day-one access. Here’s what we think the price drop means for Xbox, PC Game Pass, and the future of the service.

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VaNdAl7d ago

Phil Spencer killed the Xbox Let It Go move on to PC

Jingsing6d ago

They would be better breaking up what valued assets they still have and put them out to auction for the competition.
There is no more financial gain for them on any trajectory in the entertainment space.

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PlayStation Confirms New DRM, Digital Games Will Vanish If Players Don't Log-In For 30 Days

Tech4Gamers writes: "A PlayStation Support assistant has confirmed that the 30-day timer implemented by the new DRM policy is part of an update and isn’t a bug. While responding to a fan’s query, PS support revealed that all games purchased digitally after March 2026 will be affected by this time limit.

If your PS4 or PS5 does not connect to the internet within 30 days, the game’s license will expire, and it won’t launch on the console unless the connection is restored. Hence, every digital game you purchase from now on will require an online check-in, or else you will lose ownership."

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Goodguy018d ago

That is wild lol. Steam already does this for some games depending on the developer...but man...all digital games on ps5...

Eonjay8d ago

FYI, it hasn't actually been confirmed. This is just a lot of assumptions. If this is the case i would expect Sony to come out and say so. Chat bot response doesn't count as official confirmation.

People are also saying this is also an inadvertent mistake. If this is the case Sony and its customers would be best served by coming out and saying so.

If this isn't a mistake I think they need to confirm it and Playstation gamers should complain.

darthv728d ago

Sounds like Sony quietly did what MS openly said they were going to do with the once a month check in... and MS got so much flak they had to change course.

People need to give Sony even more flak if its true.

blacktiger8d ago

If the response is from Sony whether irresponsible employee or chatbot. That's from SONY until Sony reiterate

Dandizzle8d ago

seriously, a large company like sony wouldnt do that without an announcement or else it would result in bombardment of customer service

BlackOni8d ago

Sony's chatbot is notoriously garbage at providing even basic information and functioning properly. I wouldn't take anything it says seriously.

That said, if this is true, this is serious af. Major L for gamers across the board.

1Victor7d ago

It’s no mistake someone got paid to code that in the update and it wasn’t just for the lol

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phatak8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

This is beyond nuts, this was pretty much the exact thing that the playstation execs during the ps4 era mocked the xbox one over and xbox never recovered after it, this is why you need stiff competition folks, Sony high on their own supply just like the early ps3 days where we apparently needed 2 jobs to afford one, I was a massive Ps3 fanboy mainly due to the fact that the xbox 360 pushed sony into a corner resulting in them actually trying real hard to get market share back and as a result we got crazy good exclusives, just for old times sakes like I used to do back in 2012 right here on n4g ill relist some of the major exclusives of ps3 again

Demons souls
Metal gear solid 4
uncharted 1,2,3
infamous 1,2, festival of blood
little big planet 1,2 & little big planet karting
gran turismo 5 and 6 & ridge racer 7
killzone 2,3
twisted metal
journey
ratchet and clank tools of destruction, quest for booty, crack in time, all for one, into the nexus
resistance 1,2,3
last of us 1
god of war 3 and ascension
motorstorm collection
ico & shadow of the colossus collection
folklore
modnation racers
warhawk & starhawk
sly collection & jack and daxter collection
Puppeteer & comet crash & tokyo jungle & rain & gravity crash & Echochrome & the last guy
Heavenly Sword
3D Dot Game Heroes
Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale
Mag & Socom 4
Fat Princess
Ni no Kuni, Valkyria Chronicles, Yakuza 3,4,5 (these all came to pc later )

But just think and compare this catalog of games to ps5 ?
Saros, astro bot, demons souls remake, ghost of yotei, I would have included gran turismo 7 but that came on ps4 as well so not really an absolute exclusive that one needs to buy a ps5 to play like the other 4.

We are almost in the 6th year of the ps5, the 6th year of the ps3 was around 2012 and almost all the games from the list above were already released on the ps3, now if they are really pulling this online crap every 30 days non sense its only because of a lack of competition from xbox and so they have console players by the ba**s, now I don't know whether this is confirmed or not but regardless if this is in general where their headspace is at it seems like we should be worried, its the real playstation gamers that will be affected if its true, Im not even a playstation gamer anymore but my recommendation is put your money where you mouth is and really abandon playstation if this ends up being true.

Extermin8or3_8d ago

No it isnt. The xbox one require you to check in online every 24 hours. Also alot has changed in terms of Internet infrastructure and provision globally since 2013.....

hiawa238d ago

Looking at what consoles cost now, many need 2 jobs.

cytricks8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Not quiet. Xbox wanted to do DRM for physical games so they would be locked to your account and not sharable

Zerobalance8d ago

Most of those games are trash. Deal bro🤣 Ponies gotta pony up. Muma Sony wants some more cash. PC bro! Good ol' games. Look it up.

Ashunderfire868d ago

O man you remember that PS3 statement from crazy Ken Kutagri whatever is last name is, was so cringe for saying,”Your gonna want PS3 so bad you need 2 jobs!” That guy overhype the crap out of PS3, that was the most expensive console, an a lot of misinformation about the graphics and performance delta over 360.

Kyizen8d ago

Xbox drm was for physical games also and 24 hours with no sharing

vTuro247d ago

Yeah stuff like this is why competition is needed. The ps360 era was peak gaming. Microsoft and Sony waging a full on war and Nintendo just kinda doing their own thing. The gamers only benefited from that. Then Microsoft shot themselves in the dick with the Xbone and that gen felt like a step down from the previous (imo), though it wasn't bad still.
Then you have the current gen, which honestly feels like one big nothingburger. Barely anything interesting gets released while prices keep going up which to me is just insane. Astro Bot is basically their only exclusive that I'd be interested in buying, but I'm not buying an console just for that. Especially not one as expensive as the ps5... I would add Demon's Souls to that, but I already played the original. Loved the game, but a remake isn't a system seller for me.

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Loktai8d ago

@darthv72 Yeah LIKE 14 years ago. Its like saying "Give sony flak for raising game prices, because it would have made you mad in 2012"

PRIMORDUS7d ago

Pirate on PC what you can, you will own it, nothing will be taken from you. I feel like your just throwing money away and have nothing to show for it, with digital games.

1Victor7d ago

Well all I’m going to say is I’ll vote with my wallet and keep refusing to buy digital and will cancel my ps extra this is bs and you all that still think digital is the future should take note because once the servers goes down so does your digital game library. Good luck and good bye

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Jin_Sakai8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

This has to be a mistake.

“Received word from an anonymous insider. The Sony DRM issue is unintentional. From what we gathered, Sony accidentally broke something while fixing an exploit. They've known about the confusing UI for a while, but didn't see it as urgent. Hoping for a clarifying statement now.”

Eonjay8d ago

I find their communication to be very poor. If this is an error on their part why let people get worried about it? I understand they don't respond to rumor but sometimes they make it worse by not responding and this is an unforced error on top of and apparent unforced error.

Kribwalker8d ago

There’s people that talked directly to people, not chat bots, that confirmed it’s real 🤷‍♂️
I expect those fans that were so against Xbox doing it to eat a whole lot of crow

Outside_ofthe_Box8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Damn, we having diehards coming out of the woodworks for this. 😳

But you're right this is literally what led to the demise of the Xbox One and led to some calling it the Xbone.

There is literally no need for this and Sony has been doing just fine without it. If I don't turn on my console for 30 days and want to play offline I should be able to play the game that I paid for, no if and or buts about it.

Jin_Sakai8d ago

If it’s real it won’t last long. Almost every PlayStation YouTube video is full of revolt comments about it.

CrashMania8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

The screenshot from the article is from an AI chat bot, there are plenty of screenshots floating around from actual human chat reps stating the opposite.

SkilledGamer8d ago

It's also worth noting that the text stating a 30 day license seems to only be visible on PS4, PS5 users aren't seeing it at all.

Warrior948d ago

It this is real then I will never buy digital again and if the PS6 is digital only then it will be the first Playstation Console I wont buy

VersusDMC8d ago

"Games will vanish" is click baity as hell...all you have to do is log in and the license is restored.

phatak8d ago

@ VersusDMC The entire goal for us gamers is to want to avoid that lol, what if sony's servers are down or having some maintenance, many times ive just played my installed games without even signing into psn, from now one it means every 30 days I have to at the very least sign it to psn to even play my installed games, cannot even play single player games without singing in, so for example if sony just decides to ban me from psn, I cannot even play the games locally already installed on my drive that I purchased after march 2026, you don't think thats insane ? you just want to accept that ? abandon playstation right now if this story gets confirmed.
we officially have started renting games from march 2026, it was a good run we had 1994 to 2026.

VersusDMC8d ago

Maintenance doesn't last 30 days

Who doesn't sign in to psn for 30 days? Missing out on game updates, new games, messages, demos, etc...

You already lost all your purchases if you got permanently banned from psn so that's not new.

And if for some reason you don't have internet for 30 days you can use your smartphone as a Hotspot to connect your ps5 to the internet.

phatak8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

@VersusDMC my point isn't not about the 30 days maintenance man, the fact that you are willing to accept this 30 days sign in means they totally OWN you now, what if they change this later to 7 days, im sure you will be making the exact same point right " who doesnt sign into psn every 7 days" ? eventually say it becomes every 24 hours you cool with that too ? by psn banning you I mean to say if I get banned on psn right now for some weird reason that they decide, but I have 20 installed games already downloaded and ready to play just by clicking X, basically all the exclusives from ps4 and ps5, even if my psn is banned I still get to play the games already installed right now same like putting the disc into a banned console, from march 2026 will I be able to play my locally installed games with a banned PSN ? Its not about the length of time, its the fact that the corporation gets total control over how I choose to even play my single player offline games with mandatory sign ins, a simple thing such as forgetting my password would mean I cant even play ghost of yotei offline without signing into psn.

You ever heard the phrase "give someone an inch and they will take a yard", thats what will happen here, it doesn't just end at 30 days sign in, that's just the start

cytricks8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Is it that difficult to sign in for one second every 30 days? Especially if you are ps plus member who wants to get their free games?

phatak8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

@cytricks You are focusing again on the 30 days too, "oh sony said its only 30 days so we are safe" While its not a probability YET, just know that your playstation turns into a brick if sony decides to turn off those servers.

Sony's lack of communication is telling my conspiracy filled mind lol that they're testing to see if they can get away with this. If it was truly a mistake, they would have acknowledged it, apologised, and stated they're working on a fix.

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