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Battlefield V Pre-Orders Slow As EA Exec Quits

From PlayStation Universe: "Battlefield V pre-orders are slow and not going as well as expected, according to Cowen, a research company from the U.S."

Araragifeels 2834d ago

It probably have to do with the (not history accurate) changes that is happening with BFV and a lot of the fanbase didn't like it.

The 10th Rider2834d ago

I don't think it's just the changes. If they acknowledged there was room for improvement and at least said they would look into turning off seeing customization then people would still be upset, but they'd let it slide. Instead, from what I've seen, they've been dismissive of the complaints.

FantasticBoss2833d ago

At the end of the day the designers need to pick a vision and go for it, and the players seem to always think their idea is always the best, but if you sit down and talk to people who create games you tend to get a better perspective on how the masses often only think they know what they want and have all the answers, but in reality it's rarely that simple and throwing in changes can be costly and detrimental to the overall development in various ways.

I honestly think people need to stop crying about it and at least give the game a chance. But hey, to each is own. Only you know what you like, I just wish people had more open minds.

Skull5212833d ago

They decided to inject SJW politics and attacked the fan base when they received backlash. They need to learn their lesson and unfortunately the only way that will happen is a financial flop, and I hope the Battlefield community does as well of a job delivering that to them as the Star Wars community did with Solo, regardless of the quality of the final product.

Gaming1012833d ago

There has been a trend of SJW politics in gaming and the feminazis are winning. We need to crush this trend because the vocal minority of feminazis who don't even play videogames will control our industry. We now have revisionist history in order to include female characters in WW2. A slap in the face to all the men who died in that war, quite frankly. How about we say Canada, Britain and the US didn't actually fight the Nazis but instead, it was all black transgender women from North Africa? Why not pander to the SJW's all the way, even though they don't play videogames but just complain about them being sexist?
This is the industry trend and it needs to stop!

madpuppy2833d ago

There is a name for what is happening with BFV, it's called "Get woke, go broke".

indysurfn2832d ago

wait wait what they said EXECUTIVE's with an S is leaving.!!! They have been the problem all along! Not the devs

Sayai jin2832d ago

If people were playing Battlefield were playing it for historical accuracy, they need to open a book. All the people talking about SJW, black, etc, get a grip. In America there is a long history of rewriting history, white-washing , etc to pander to certain people. Please.

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FantasticBoss2833d ago

I dunno, looks like fun to me. Keeping in mind I've been a pretty devoted fan since the original. If they just delivered a standard WWII experience at this point, I don't think I would have been as interested. Not that it would have stopped me from at least giving the game a shot. I've mostly really only heard complaining online. Most of the people I know in person are either pretty excited for it, or have been holding to a general "fuck EA everything" train for years now.

Honestly, I would think it has more to do with the Battlefront 2 fumble more than anything.

Eonjay2833d ago

I was gonna say this. The lack of perceived politics in Battlefront 2 didn't stop EA from completely destroying trust in the company and this has to have the bulk to do with current V preorders. The very moment they tried to turn their games into services, they started downhill. The alternate universe WWII doesn't bother me. But you can keep you $20000/5000 hour grind money grab to yourself.

REDGUM2833d ago (Edited 2833d ago )

I'm personally looking forward to this game. I too have played most of the battlefield games in the past. I love all bar one of the upcoming changes coming to the MP part of the game as most of it seems to be team based changes which is what battlefield games have mostly been about TEAMPLAY.
That being said, the only change i'm not too happy with is the re-deploy, you have less health now...... now for the most of us that are fair, good or brilliant at the game that's fine but i aint one of those three. I'm a bullet magnet. i play more team-based like throwing medic kits out, repairs, ammo kamikaze vehicle with C4 etc because my reaction times in games are way too slow (don't get me started on C.O.D games, i can go 20 deaths without a kill in that game lol).
I just fear that it might put me off after a while as i'll die more easily, if that's even possible or that i'll only be able to play as a medic in it for the health kits.

I'm probably the only player out there who plays like this I know but if there are more who are are unhappy with this , i hope it doesn't take a toll too much with players not putting the hours into the game like on previous installments and player counts don't start dropping earlier than usual.

I'm up for changes don't get me wrong but this one to change, and for that matter for what reason??? Hmmm.

zackeroniii2833d ago

Big oopsie doodles for ea and Battlefield 1.V

Black Ops 4 is looking like the FPS of Fall

Xenial2833d ago

Agreed on BF1.V

I don't touch COD however.
You still get my agree though, im disappointed in this, I would have preferred a more modern BF.

elazz2833d ago

Both look like nothing to me.

I really wanted to get BF V but since it's not trying to be accurate but still being set in a historical setting I wouldn't feel invested in it for too long. Something would feel off continuously and I don't have time for that. Looking at black ops 4 I don't think it's a meaningful upgrade over black ops 3.

It's gonna be spider man and red dead redemption for me this fall.

Baza2833d ago

I don’t think this has to do with BFV’s quality. People are sick of EA’s bs and greed. And this is what happens. Your consumers turn their back on you.

jjb19812833d ago

That is exactly why I am not excited. I wanted a gritty WW2 experience. The whole alternate history vibe is discouraging me. I don't like the direction that it's going. I might do the EA premium access to try and then get the 10% discount if the gameplay is good. I'm not going to preorder it though.

FantasticBoss2833d ago

Hey, if it's not what you want, that's totally fair. I'll take that answer over a lot of the "YOU NEVER LISTEN, RAAAAWR!"

madpuppy2833d ago (Edited 2833d ago )

He told people that if they didn't like how they made the game, not to buy it. I guess the people took him up on that.

Que the sad trombone....

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Crazyglues2833d ago

I really don't get it, these companies have just become full of their self, and sales will indeed suffer because of their stupidity.....

--The Customer tells you they are upset (right or wrong) they tell you what they want and what they don't like... there is a right way to handle it, and a wrong way, you choose the wrong way.... Also that Reveal was the biggest joke in gaming, I'm a huge Battlefield player and fan, and for the first time ever I watched that shit and could not be more pissed off / and turned off from the franchise... A whole big reveal where you didn't show the game but instead a big CGI trailer.... ARE YOU GUYS COMPLETE IDIOTS...? Battlefield fans don't do that shit, we want to see the game and see it playing.. Then you put woman not just in the trailer, but in the game at WWII are you serious, are we adding Pikachu too as a playable character, in case you want to power up.... ( I don't think people are against women in games but it's the way you did it ) We will just add them here even though it makes no sense, and we are really doing it to get sales up so more women play, not because you really care about women in games. What you think everyone can't see that, this is the real reason you did it.

Your response -- So what, we will make what we want to make basically, ok well then you can buy it too, because we are not.... LMAO
I mean how dumb is DICE / EA we told you for years we want a Battlefield Bad Company 2 remaster or Bad Company 3.. do you make it. NO!
We tell you make a modern Battlefield that's what we want now, you did WWI already....

What did y'all do, say nah we will make what we want to make.. Really? So it's no surprise after you mess up game after game Star wars now Battlefield, that fans are on the fence / hell I expect this game to launch like Battlefield 4 -unplayable on the PS4 as DICE and EA take a Year to fix the game... So yeah, I'll wait and maybe see you guys next year if at all, hopefully that's when the bugs will be worked out.. Just based off your track record, you guys don't listen really well..

KyRo2833d ago

Pre-ordered are a outdated thing I games. This isn't the 90s anymore and more fool anyone who pays for pre-order bonuses such as skins, early guns etc. You're being made a mug out of.

JEECE2833d ago

I think a good number do it for the Amazon prime discount.

Forn2833d ago

It also has to do with EA's track record. I think more people are finally waking up to their antics.

Edito2833d ago

Or probably it's because it' EA.

RosweeSon2833d ago

That or it’s just the same games New themes New setting but essentially everything else is the same 6 hour campaign check. Usual online modes check.
Shooters just boring these days. I’m all for a quick blast here and there but do they keep me entertained for the year no barely launch week and I’m off to something bigger and better shooters need to up their game and get a bit more creative or just have a year off from these yearly churns. Black 2 would be awesome new Timesplitters. Cod9 battlefield 12 whatever you wanna call em bout as interesting as a new Fifa and yes I like Fifa just not paying £40+ year on year for new stadia and few new transfers.

bow2yoda2833d ago

who gives a fuck about ea... so what they put females in the game... get over it! Focus on the fact that ea has screwed its patrons for decades....

PapaBop2833d ago

Honestly, I'm hoping it's the damage from Battlefront 2 as well. EA haven't exactly been very open with Battlefield 5 yet and after what they tried to pull with Battlefront 2, you'd have to be a fool to give them money when there are still so many question marks hanging over Battlefield 5.

frostypants2833d ago (Edited 2833d ago )

The number of people who care about that is immensely small. The truth is people are just bored of the series.

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ArchangelMike2834d ago

EA completely botched the reveal of BFV, and their communication about the game since then has been abysmal. I agree with Westie on this one https://www.youtube.com/wat...

FantasticBoss2833d ago

How has the communication been abysmal? Honestly, It feels fairly similar to any other release of this nature to me.

Hungryalpaca2833d ago

Calling people racists and misogynists fonehaving valud complains isn’t good communication. Don’t bite the hand that feeds. DICE decided to not only bite but rip the hand off.

danny8182833d ago

there is definately less hype. I think games like fortnite and PUBG really have distracted their audience

IAreBeMrLee2833d ago

There is a reason that EA are annually voted as one of the worst companies going :')

annoyedgamer2834d ago

He may have "quit" but he made millions during his tenure. In a few years once Dice is getting shuttered after their last Battlefield Mobile release, he will be making millions doing the same thing at another company.

hench072834d ago

EA just can't catch a break......so sad.

I can see Anthem not doing crazy numbers too.

DreadGara2833d ago

YES THEY DESERVE TO DIE, AND I HOPE THEY BURN IN HELL!!!!

DrDunc2832d ago

Calm down mate it's just a video game.

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gtxgamer22832d ago

They don't deserve a break lol, their greedy corporate bastards

2pacalypsenow2834d ago (Edited 2834d ago )

Well it might have something to do with them making a WW2 game and basically making it about women and not focus entirely on the men who played a bigger part.

Most of the fan base didn't want that, like seriously, robotic arms? Leave that to Wolfenstein.

He said it himself, "accept it, or don't buy the game"

Looks like people are doing just that.

ziggurcat2833d ago (Edited 2833d ago )

"Well it might have something to do with them making a WW2 game and basically making it about women..."

they didn't "make it about women", they included women because women were involved during the war, even in combat.

"Most of the fan base didn't want that, like seriously, robotic arms?"

it's not a robotic arm... it's a prosthetic that is modelled after an actual 1940's prosthetic arm.

https://c.slashgear.com/wp-...
https://dontfeedthegamers.c...

2pacalypsenow2833d ago

Pretty sure if you had a prosthetic arm they would send you home. Also a woman is on the cover of game..

ziggurcat2833d ago (Edited 2833d ago )

Pretty sure this is a game, not real life. Also there have been plenty of women on plenty of other covers.

Also, the British had a secret army called the special operations exective (SOE). it included men, women, and even those with physical disabilities.

2pacalypsenow2833d ago (Edited 2833d ago )

So is the game about them? Becuase im sure they weren’t on the frontlines.

Y’all can argue all you want but the fact stands, people are upset at EA.

ziggurcat2833d ago

"So is the game about them?"

Doesn't matter if the game is specifically about them, that's not the argument. You said you were "pretty sure" people with prosthetic limbs would be sent home. Well, people with prosthetic limbs were recruited by the British to fight on or behind enemy lines, and conducted countless missions, so...

"Becuase im sure they weren’t on the frontlines."

Wrong again. They were. Russians had women on the front lines, the SOE had women on the front lines, and the French Resistance had women in their ranks fighting along the front lines, too.

"Y’all can argue all you want but... "

I'm not arguing. You're presenting wrong information, and I'm correcting you.

"... the fact stands, people are upset at EA."

No... people are acting like children over the inclusion of female characters in a video game. The great irony, though, is the same people who vehemently defend their right to free speech, and freedom of expression get incredibly upset when devs express their right to free speech, and freedom of expression whenever they include women or other minority groups in their games - even games that are set in alternative timelines within a specific point in History.

81BX2833d ago

2pac is 100% correct. They would send you home. Only those who respawned with all their body parts stayed on the battlefield

DonkeyWalrus2833d ago

Prove that there was a single British woman with a prosthetic arm who actually fought on the front lines with male soldiers.

Hell, find proof of any human with any sort of prosthetic limb fighting on the frontlines of WWII.

Face it, this game is completely inauthentic. That's fine if they want to make a game like that, but authenticity was always one of those things that made a lot of people enjoy battlefield. Those people won't like this change.

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ArchangelMike2832d ago (Edited 2832d ago )

@ziggurcat

I hear what you're saying, but you're avoiding the point of this entire thread. Pre-order sales of Battlefield V are down,why do YOU think this is? The analysts suggests that it's BFV's positining between RDR2 and BLOPS4 - which I don't think is the case at all.

I think it's the backlash from the BFV reveal and the ensuing furore over how EA/DICE tried to explain away the problem by branding it's core fan base as ignorant misogynists; instead of taking the feedback on board and working with BOTH sides of the community to make the game for the core as well as the casual. With the crowded shooter market, EA/DICE can't afford to make enemies of their core fanbase, as gamers will simply go elsewhere. Trying to cater to the Overwatch and Fortnite crowd, also is a big mistake since the appeal of BF is that it is a distinct brand of shooter, in terms of it gritty gameplay, looks and it's style.

EA are corrupting DICE and pushing for biggger and bigger profits, we saw it with Battlefront 2, and we'll see it with BFV.

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Seven Games Set to Leave PS Plus Extra and Premium in November 2025

Several titles, including Battlefield V and Like a Dragon: Ishin!, will depart PS Plus Extra and Premium in November 2025. Here’s the full list of games leaving soon.

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gold_drake208d ago

Battlefield V,
 Like a Dragon: Ishin!, 
Digimon Survive, 
Synapse, 
Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes, 
Football Manager 2024 Console,
Daedalus: The Awakening of Golden Jazz

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PlayStation Plus Game Catalog for May

Battle Engine Aquila joins PlayStation Plus Premium.

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Profchaos369d ago

Another meh month and only 1 single classic wtf Sony. I was hoping after the price hikes for PSN we might get a good month spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down and all that

crazyCoconuts369d ago

Last month had harry potter and blue prince
I wouldn't say ANOTHER meh month

OtterX369d ago

Sandland looks right up my alley and I'm excited to give it a shot. I honestly missed this game somehow, never heard about it until now.

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pwnmaster3000369d ago

Maybe I’ll go check out battlefield 5 again.
Maybe this will give a little boost

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PapaBop369d ago

Some of the best psvr 2 titles leaving, nothing coming, way to support your psvr 2 owners. Still, I don't mind the games coming personally.

crazyCoconuts369d ago

Yeah I upped to premium when they started adding psvr2 with the expectation that they would keep coming. now when my sub ends I'll be scaling back

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Battlefield V now broken on Steam Deck / Linux with EA anticheat live

That's all folks. EA anticheat has now been added into Battlefield V, so it's the end of being able to play it on Steam Deck and other Linux systems.

This joins the likes of Plants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare 2: Deluxe Edition, EA SPORTS FC 24, EA SPORTS FIFA 23, Battlefield 2042 and Madden NFL 24 that all have EA's own homegrown anti-cheat that make them simply unplayable on systems running Linux.

Now if you try to run it, you'll be greeted with an error. A shame to see a game that's multiple years old get broken like this and no doubt EA will continue to use their own EA anticheat in future online games. Battlefield 1 is still okay, and Apex Legends is also still running but perhaps it's only a matter of time before EA force it onto those too?

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just_looken774d ago

more comments here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/St...
https://steamcommunity.com/...

47 comments in hours bf5 won't launch anymore ea is saying meh not my prob bitch tosses a faq
https://answers.ea.com/t5/B...

Yes counter cheating that is good but when the ea app on pc is still totally broken and these cheaters are on 2042 same anti cheat this is just putting scotch tape on trumps file cabinet to prevent leaks its nothing more than a stop gap.

I mention ea app as for 4years it was in beta then tossed out with 3 year old issues and i still cant not get the products that i purchased on origin yeah i purchased digital but guess what there is no dvd games on pc anymore.

Philaroni773d ago

Likewise, I'm about to do some games with some friends here but if you wish to PM me I could share my Discord if you like to talk further. Oddly you bring up THQ that I did some work for in the past.

Also for Starfield I have just a Stock GTX 1080. Not even the 1080i version on an ultra wide and with some Ini, changes and other weird things I know I got it working at Series X frame rate. Sure not the the fancy graphics options. I know Bethesda games have always been more CPU then GPU limiting. A good application I don't see many using is Process lasso. It helps with may CPU heavy games on PC. (Battletech is the main one I use it for) Can find it here if you like. https://bitsum.com/

""Xbox has made custom engines like forza/unreal they used to support epic back in the day like slipstream like you said but they make so much cash they do not need to work as much as sony.

But the issue i find is the lack of passion behind games aswell as the mass amount of users that love the broken/microtransantion filled games we get every day. Back in the day when a game was crap or had something wrong it was a oh crap are we going to get shutdown or like thq just poof gone. But today its na who cares fix it later or write it off then oh wait never mind they like it such as the new cod.""

Going to combine me response here. You are right, MS and I do feel like what they do with not just Froza and also the tech they use in Flight Sim. Is not given enough credit. If I am correct the next Fable game is going to be using a mix of things from the Turn 10 Team, maybe Unreal? Hard to say at this point, But MS along with Sony both own a full License of the tech (Days Gone for Sony) I agree with you on the talent and passion part, games have become too much, at least AAA games the 'Milk, butter, eggs and toast" to support places now days. Innovations in gameplay and such has fell lower and lower. I still don't see mechanics and ways of playing games like I did so many years back, its a bummer.

For MS maybe the end as even though they might have a massive advantage in software and services (I use to work in Azure) They can kind of do some things at cost but seem to fail at it a lot. The cloud gaming push I don't think is going to have the effect so many hope for (Not sure why anyone wants that) I still want MS to have a chance but, if I sit here with my magic dice and roll it on MS games over the last forever, it could land on Crackdown 3 (Remember that?) The cloud powered game... and now they are trying to do it again with Kojima some what. As an engineer, its not happening now, tomorrow or anything in the next 24 years. I remember back on this interview with John,

https://www.reddit.com/r/nv...

We are not even at that point yet. So hope we get there and I hope MS is still a player but I do feel you are right in many ways, they are already trying to slowly retreat just by the rhetoric alone.

Ether way again PM me and we should talk more, would love to do so.

Philaroni773d ago

The rough part of all of this is that for those of us on PC mostly be it Windows or Linux based, the anti-cheat sucks up a lot of resources. It kind of reminds me of the conversation between, security and freedom. Too much of ether is both good if managed well or very bad. We just as gamers keep seeing this pop up over and over again. Wish I had some magic wand to stop cheaters... but I don't... hell we just seen what happened with Apex at a high level event.. getting that kind of access and such is not good... but at the same time. Can anyone, one person provide me an example where Anti Cheat has even like a hit rate above 50? I know I'm pulling numbers out of my ass, but it seems the cheaters beat the systems in place time and time again. Where there is a lock, and a smith to make it. We always will have a thief that breaks it.

just_looken773d ago (Edited 773d ago )

I can

Sense everyone seems to have brain rot and forgot the ps3 that is the solution.

The ps3 for its first half had systems that would only launch the game if it saw you had a ps3 controller along with a inhouse operating system and a real gpu/cpu it was way harder to run cheats off of along with the ability to make custom rooms.

Yes there were p2p lag switching then later on thanks to that dev kit leak cheat menus but for years games like killzone/mag had dedicated servers that were hard to crack a operating system/cpu those in public had 0 knowledge how to make stuff on them.

Right now if they put all mp files on the server so we just stream the game that would be a huge step or make the multiplayer run in a sanboxed mode separate on the system.

Philaroni773d ago

I'm glad you brought that up that Killzone had Dedicated servers. I remember the Yellow Dog Linux days of PS3, as well. EA use to do more Dedicated Servers for games but as time went on they would 'rent them out' and slowly the official servers would die down.

P2P Lag always had that magical thing (Gears 2 (Aak the shot gun) and Halo 2,3) fans know as host advantage. That alone allowed for lags switches, booting of others from games. ECT. (Though I admit, was the most fun I had when our team could beat cheaters. Man was that a good time)

I fully agree with you, the fact so much is working how it is has in a hard way compromised network/client security issue. I'll pick on COD for example where some assets are local and other are on server, between games and between even evolutions/iterations of the engines used.

just_looken773d ago

@phil

Thank you for the reply i am glad others on here remember

Now back to the series x having games with the same frame rate as a 2005 xbox 360 but the masses thinking that is fine and next gen.

Starfield on series x native 780ishp fallout 3 xbox 360 720p both 30fps gaming has "grown so much"

Sadly we are not in large numbers and see mp/sp tech wise/cheater wise has gotten worse not better.

Philaroni773d ago

I hate to say it about Starfield I'd have too look at reports from way back when. I swear to god they said it was going to launch with Creation Kit 2 (I worked with 1 alot in Skyrim mods in the block based aka cell based structure) Back then it was great, but for the life of me I don't know how a Studio like Obsidian can make a game same as Bethesda but with less bugs and bull shit. (Fallout Veg and Outer Worlds) Not that it was with out bugs but when a 3rd party does better with your own tech... I find an issue... with it all.

Frame rate stuff I only understand from two points, design and marketing. On the Design part yes back in the day 30FPS was I swear almost more common then now days. It was not a design compromise to keep it at 30 as the hardware and the way the game was being 'displayed' (Key thing there) was as impactful. Now days I feel the Marketing side wants a 4K trailer running likely rendered on a Xbox or PS system with little text saying (Oh wit was on a PC that no one is able to afford... of course teasing there a bit.)

I do understand that Starfield is a 'simulated world' where like every item you drop is there, for like forever... cool, that is not too new now days and design wise, is kind of a dumb thing.... who cares how many carrots you can collect... is it cool sure, makes for good PR in some ways. Lack of tangible game play is the issue. I can't take credit for this but a buddy of mine worked in advertising and I shit you not at Fast food. They would make wax and even 3D print now and then post render foods you would get, just for you as the client at a Burger King to not be given as you where sold on. (((( He did not work for them FYI.. but others)))

Issue with gaming as you are saying is too much is on the 'presentation.' It does not sell like it use too, that type of advertising. Most of it is word of mouth, who my friends tell me is a good game or not, what my friends are playing. Then comes the reviews.

Its dumb that our next gen systems feel like we gone all but up a step that we already went down two to three on. Take Uncharted 4 for example 30FPS SP and 60 MP. That I can deal with, and that was a PS4 game.

I do at times dis Xbox a lot, but come on, they still have yet to make there own damn game engine. Slipstream failed heavily, where Sony and most of their own studios have tech they made for the games they are trying to build. I am unsure how Xbox is again now saying the 'next' system will be the best ever. Sure it will be duh? Tech changes and grows, but I never seen a system use it so poorly. (I blame alot on the bloated Xbox OS FYI)

just_looken773d ago

@phil

You can have both presentation and framerate pc's have been doing both for decades now 4k ray tracing bla bla yeah that is different but starfield is no maxed out minecraft with its seed tech with ray tracing minecraft uses seeds also with huge buildings but for years pc's can do 60fps on that.

I mentioned 30fps because back in the day we had hd consoles alot of users had sd tv's just getting into hd tv's so i get the graphics difference but we are talking about 20years of hardware difference.

A real hardware console 6700 3700x 16gb of ram can run starfield at 60fps not maxed out but its possible this was pre performance patches:
https://youtu.be/hNM488QIKO...

Remember the apu/igpu tablet crap the consoles are using are based off of the 6700

The xbox operating system has always been windows based from windows 2000/xp xbox-xbox 360 the tail end of the 360 using vista/7 then to the series x using windows 10 that is why backwards compatibility works great its all direct x based with the same bc as a window's pc. What we see today is just the change from needing games to survive to making games as a product m$ makes more money in a week than what sony can make in months.

Xbox has made custom engines like forza/unreal they used to support epic back in the day like slipstream like you said but they make so much cash they do not need to work as much as sony.

But the issue i find is the lack of passion behind games aswell as the mass amount of users that love the broken/microtransantion filled games we get every day. Back in the day when a game was crap or had something wrong it was a oh crap are we going to get shutdown or like thq just poof gone. But today its na who cares fix it later or write it off then oh wait never mind they like it such as the new cod.

The new cod is making bank yes users hated it but the sales show the masses that do not post love it sadly

Heck did you see that wow has limited time store items now with hundreds online defending it because they think the store its what's need to keep the game online despite the $15 a month payment and m4 ownership.

I find in the end of this generation Microsoft will go the way of sega they might also just buy sony as everything sony except music/games is not making money they are a cheap buy for microsoft right now so we would just have 2 companies fighting in the gaming ring with papa os watching from the sidelines.

Great chatting 2 you may i recommend looking at rpgm games? they are out there even though i have a i9 4090 custom rig right now along with a ps5 i have been playing 4yr old games or rpgm stuff this year. Its funny i remember being a 2360/ps3 owner stacks of adventures now i am like well time to see what is in the past.

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