@raptor

You're telling me to mute in a game like R6S? Clearly, you don't play it much. I reported a ton of people for toxic behaviour & I'm glad some of them got banned & I hope they learned from it.

Also, why should I mute people in the first place if you can just act like a normal person and be less toxic?
People that are toxic should be banned because it's not fun playing with them. It's as simple as that.

@DragonDDark

"You're telling me to mute in a game like R6S? Clearly, you don't play it much. I reported a ton of people for toxic behaviour & I'm glad some of them got banned & I hope they learned from it."

Yes, I am. And yes, I do. If you depend that much on communicating with the toxic, racist 12 year-old on your team then it sounds like you have a severe case of gitgud. And careful not to break your arm patting yourself on the back for getting people banned over your frail ego.

"Also, why should I mute people in the first place if you can just act like a normal person and be less toxic?"

I know, right? Why can't everyone just be normal like you? Why doesn't everyone just think exactly like you, then we'll all get along. Why doesn't the world cater to your narrow lens over reality. Truly the greatest tragedy of all.

@DragonDDark

"People that are toxic should be banned because it's not fun playing with them. It's as simple as that."

By the way, thanks for proving my point: That this isn't about race to people like you, but instead about people hurting your god damned feelings... Something that is entirely subjective, I might add. What may hurt your feeling and be toxic to you, may not be to others. The world does not stop and start at your convenience.

I'm sorry that I don't like hanging out with toxic people when I'm playing games for fun... That's my bad right?

And when did I say That my feelings were hurt? Stop putting words in my mouth.

Stop being an a** when people are just trying to have fun.
^ why is that statement bad to you?

You can play said game without being a racist and just try to have fun. That's the point, isn't it?

@DragonDDark
"I'm sorry that I don't like hanging out with toxic people when I'm playing games for fun... That's my bad right?"

Don't apologize to me. You didn't hurt my feelings. Just grow tougher skin. That's all.

"And when did I say That my feelings were hurt? Stop putting words in my mouth."

I kind of explained this already in a roundabout way earlier, but I guess it didn't stick: What you consider to be toxic or asshole-ish behavior is entirely subjective. That depends entirely on your emotions and logic being less refined than others. Though I do not support racism, I do have a higher tolerance for bullshit, and in some cases I may even find it funny (depending on my mood). I'm willing to bet that there is a 10 to 1 chance that what you find offensive is quite tame compared to what I find offensive. That's what I mean when I say you are dictating what is toxic based off of your emotions "being hurt". Maybe to you it doesn't seem like your feelings are hurt, but the bottom line is that there is something bothering your psyche so much that you demand the space around you be augmented to suit you.

I dont care about what anyone finds offensive or not. I'm saying don't talk & say stuff that can ruin the experience for other people. This is why R6S is so bad for new people. Everyone just says bad stuff to the newbies & they just leave because of it.

The game is M/18+, that means that the content within has earned a high age-gate. That doesn't mean, however, that people can freely discriminate other players and then expect a free pass on the merit of the game's rating.

You have to be the same age to enter a bar and drink. Does that give you the right to talk like that in a bar? No, it doesn't. Though I BET those that do this on Siege would never do that in the open anyway. Count yourselves lucky Ubisoft doesn't forward your information to the law following racist outbursts.

Moral of the whole story? There's no room in this world for racism. Period. @DragonDDark is spot on with what he says. Furthermore, yes there's a mute function. Though, this game is a game that relies heavily on team-play. Muting my team just because they're a bunch of racist scumbags is counter productive. I would much rather they be banned and leave that open slot for someone with some decency.

It's just a social justice development team trying to act high and mighty. If emotional feelings of spineless cowards are that important, they can implement a language filter into the game itself.

@DragonDDark

Incorrect. It's people like YOU that are the problem with online gaming. You are probably the type of person that immediately turns off any language filters so you can read all those cuss words and then complain about them.

@thekhurg

I don't like dealing with toxic people when I return from a long day from work. Is that hard to understand? Why not just try to be friendly? Isn't that better?

You can say cuss words, but don't use them to attack other people.

I'm a very competitive person in every aspect of life. That being said even when I lose I some how keep my cool. It's amazing how far a little self control can go.

Maybe being racist and sexist is fun for you, but not for most people. Most people are capable of controling themselves. Also, in multiplayer games the people you're talking to aren't virtual as you said, they're real.....Do you understand the difference?

So... your first instinct when you get upset or competitive... is to use racial slurs?

Help me understand...

If you go to a Walmart and someone from different ethnic group does something to make you angry, are you saying your first instinct will be to say something racially reprehensible? That your impulses overcame your best judgment? Or, being out in the open, will you suddenly be able to control yourself?

If so, I have to say, you're a pretty sad person. I'm all for freedom of speech and expression, but if hate speech is so internal that you respond with that and justify it by basically saying it's a heat of the moment reaction, you're a loser.

People aren't being punished for talking badly during a war game, they are being banned for horrible, racist comments. Calling the developers hypocrites is ridiculous. If people are that unhappy with how this game is being run they can always play something else.

@raptor So you're saying that literally we should just ignore racism? The mute button might be simple, but do you know what else is simple? Not being a fkn racist. Ignoring issues like this is part of the problem as a whole. I get it man, no one should be offended by words. Especially from a kid on a game. That being said why is someone who is clearly not mature playing an M rated game? Maybe anyone who isn't mature enough to not say racist garbage shouldn't be allowed to play? *mind blown*

There is a difference between shooting at someones character and playing the game the way it is meant to be played, and going out of your way to be hurtful to that PERSON. This isn't called Rainbow Six Siege "Internet warrior edition". If the way you "de-stress" is by trying to make other people feel bad because of their skin color, you might need to re-evaluate your life and maturity levels.

***forbid to just "talk" badly to virtual opponents***

Other human beings aren't virtual opponents. People are who you're talking to, not programmed pixels.

***People want to have fun.***

If you think the idea of fun is using slurs at other humans, then you need help. I don't see why anyone would support people being rude for the sake of being rude.

***hurting your god damned feelings... Something that is entirely subjective***

Future child psychologist here. Let us know how this method of telling people that feelings are subjective work out for solving issues.

Naruga - It's called self control. Your lack of it, is not an excuse to do as you please at the expense of others.

Grow up whiny gamer.

I remember when common decency was a thing. It's a shame that's just going out the window now. You can still use cuss words by the way in the game. You're just not allowed to use racial, homophobic, and sexist words and slurs. If you need to use any of those to vent frustration then you should reevaluate yourself and grow up. I really don't get why everyone just says get thicker skin. How about you just stop being a douche. It's pretty simple. Just be excellent to each other.

If I'm called whitey or cracker will that person be banned?

@annoyedgamer
They are two completely different words, but maybe.

@Tru-Blu
"Whitey" may not be associated with their algorithm. The C word is racist and it should, but it's also the name of food so I wonder if it will.

Annoyed gamer, no one said they wouldn't be banned.

Here comes the what about-isms. How would they know they were black, white, etc. They state slurs, regardless. They didn't say only urs from X race.

Many? How many black people you know or see doing this day to day? Not on youtube or tv, but real life.

Lol are you suggesting ubisoft is only going to ban white people? How are they going to make sure they only ban white people who say n××××× ;? If I was ubi I would make this simple for everyone... if you're black,white, hispanic... etc. You have a choice. Either play our game and conduct your self in a mature manner by not using racial or sexual slurs. Or you can go play another title. It's that simple. Were not here to police the world. You and many other gamers purchased this product and deserve for us to provide you with a stable environment to play it in.

@jmc8888 I don't think this works for mics, I think it's just typed stuff. You can't voice chat to the enemy team, so a lot of this is typed chat. Even if it did. If you can't control things being said around you that might potentially hurt other people, maybe you shouldn't have your mic on. Secondly, there is no "stance" on whether white people are the only ones that can be racist. I have an example that I've experienced personally if you really need me to share it with you.

The "argument" is that to be racist you have to assume you are superior, and some people just don't believe anyone can think they're superior to white people. I can assure you that isn't the case at all.

Ubisoft doesn't have to learn anything. They implemented something that filters through some OBVIOUS issues. It isn't unfair to anyone that only the "slurs" they use gets banned. I'm also going to go out on a limb and 100% guarantee the N word doesn't have a drastic change in the meaning during the lifespan of rainbow six siege, call me crazy. They don't have to have a list of words you can and cannot say, they have rules that blanket hateful use of words and if someone isn't mature enough to know they're being hateful then they should be banned anyway right? This IS a mature game. Mature doesn't mean you get to harass or abuse other people.

You are right about the parents but the problem with that is that people suck and so do their kids. Even in cases where the parents are doing everything right you will have just have some bad kids. Also, it is not just kids that carry on this way. Anyway, you seem to be a somewhat intelligent individual so none of this should be news to you.

@raptor_aktual
It is the duty of game developers to follow through on reported players, whether that be hacking or slurs. Slurs fall under hate speech, so they are fine in how they are handling it regardless.

It'll let them know of that kinda language is not welcome. We shouldn't even have to mute someone, and mute doesn't deal with the toxic players. It'll keep them in check and let people just enjoy the games.

They aren't babysitting and policing the thoughts and speech of their players, they are implementing a code of conduct.

So instead of preventing a person from being called a n****r c***t in the first place you want them to hear the insult and then not punish the perpetrators but simply ignore them by muting them?
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Perhaps they should implement that in everyday law too? Instead of arresting people for breaking the law, we should simply move away from them or better yet, move them to another neighborhood where they can go do more crime instead.

"Its a sad day when someone who doesnt support nannying is accused of being "toxic"."

It's a sad day when someone thinks uttering racial slurs is okay.

Jmc8888 rocking the classic "anyone who disagrees with me must be associated with this other group!" That's a great move, A+.

It's Ubisofts game and they're drawing a clear line in the sand. Your fairy tail about people being baited into using a slur is asinine. I've been playing online for 20 years now, never used a slur what kind of space magic is that? If you have to insult anyone you have all these words available to you, pick up a dictionary.

Not everyone who disagrees with you is some kind of tide pod eating kid who identifies as a spirit, you're not the beginning and end of people who actually think. Why don't you step back, you're wasting a lot of time rehashing the same crap.