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Does Microsoft Really Need To Develop A New Xbox?

Microsoft, at least for single-players, had a positive E3 this year, focusing on long-term projects, studio acquisitions, and non-reactionary business decisions—at least, until the conference closed with Phil Spencer stoking the old console war flame with a simple comment: “[Microsoft] is deep into architecturing the next Xbox consoles.”

maybelovehate2818d ago

As long as there is new tech available to make it better they should release a new iteration. No reason to hold developers back.

Eonjay2818d ago (Edited 2818d ago )

Well of course. I think the only real issue is making a comment about building another console when they haven't really produced anything with the S/X that compares to what Sony is doing with the 4/PRO. Looking at Ghost and TLOU, there is nothing that Microsoft had that compared to that. But the thing is they could and they have the power to do so. So I think the point is why they would be trying to sell their consumers on yet another more powerful console when they clearly don't have the talent to use it? Imagine what Nintendo could do with the X.

I'm not convinced we need another PlayStation yet from that E3 conference.

maybelovehate2818d ago

Gears or War 4 is still a tech showcase in the industry. As are all the Forza games. Ghost and TLOU look ok. Not much as far as effects going on, but they are going for more realistic. Which is fine but hardly good showcases for graphics. PS badly needs a new console. Games like Red Dead and Shadows Die Twice will most likely be the best games of this generation and X and PC will have a firm hold over having the best versions.

Goldby2818d ago

@maybe
If ps badly needs a new console, what does that say about the Xbox one or one s?

Remember at the end of the day the Xbox community is mainly using the Xbox one or s. Not the x. Just like with playstation it is the ps4 that has more sales than the pro.

xX-oldboy-Xx2817d ago

maybelovehate - You are one delusional soul, gow does nothing special - their latest showing was even more disappointing

Nothing and I mean NOTHING - comes close to what Sonys 1st party is offering. MS has the most powerful console and their games look average at best.

MS duds.

Noskypeno2817d ago

Thats why 343 built a new engine from scratch. Yeah we can give sony credit for finally pushing ms to where theyre heading but you cant deny the visuals in halo infinite and gears 5 along with multiplats like anthem and metro

doggo842817d ago (Edited 2817d ago )

Maybelovehate

"Gears or War 4 is still a tech showcase in the industry. As are all the Forza games. Ghost and TLOU look ok"

Lmao,.
There is no way in hell gears 4 or any forza game comes close to Horizon zero dawn, uncharted 4, TLOU 2 and ghost of tsushima. Must be tough for you to accept that Sony's first party are a cut above the rest when it comes to graphics

Godmars2902817d ago

"Gears or War 4 is still a tech showcase in the industry."

It is?

Who even really talks about it other than fans of the series?

Skull5212817d ago

Microsoft’s news of having the most powerful hardware in consoles from here on out is important, a lot of people want that. It was true with the Xbox and 360 and it’s true today. The original vision of Xbox One was misguided but they have learned from it and everything coming from Microsoft now is good news.

Gunstar752817d ago

Gears was an amazing looking game and was rightly praised.

Godmars2902817d ago (Edited 2817d ago )

@Skull521:
System power is - nearly - inconsequential. It wasn't system power that gave the 360 the advantages it had against the PS3, but support. Games. That launching over a year before. Likewise if power were a sole key factor the XBX should be outselling the base PS4 much less the Pro or the XB1.

@Disagrees:
That's it, all you got? Phantom disagrees about Gears 4 barely having a blip of attention?

MuddyWaters2817d ago

This is why Phil came out on stage to provide confidence they are still making consoles and even then we have articles like this. Shawn Layden also confirmed in 2017 that they are indeed coming out with a PS5, so it's all irrelevant because we all knew they are always working behind the scenes on new hardware, what we don't know is exactly when.

That's it, yet we still see the same people arguing over their toys prepping themselves years away from the next generation. Typical.

Critic4l_Strik32817d ago

@maybelovehate
"Gears or War 4 is still a tech showcase in the industry. As are all the Forza games. Ghost and TLOU look ok." Ghost and TLOU just look ok??? Dude, you better have your eyes checked.

Petebloodyonion2817d ago (Edited 2817d ago )

@Eonjay
Even if MS could pull out the best exclusive off all time for the X, would you expect ppl to rush at the store to buy an X as a 3rd console? Especially late in this generation cycle?

Also, MS had no choice about mentioning a new Xbox, if they didn't N4G and Reddit would be flooded with articles about how MS is trying to impose their streaming agenda where you never really own the game and how they are the blight of this world.

Dragonscale2816d ago

@maybe, you are really reaching with that bullcrap. Ghost and TLOU 2 look fantastic and to say they look just ok is severe damage control because nothing on xbone or scorpio comes even close lol. You are such a try hard.

EyeAmTJ2816d ago

dont over hype TLOU2 & Ghost, specially TLOU2 smh

Godmars2902816d ago

@EyeAmTJ:
Though bring up Gears 4 as a tech benchmark when no one even talks about it as a game?

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agent45322817d ago

That is the issue, consoles do not utilize the latest hardware tech but the older tech. Look at PS4 and Xbox One with the fact that PS3 did not sold well at $600.00 plus tax, it prevented console manufacturers from investing in new technology. Both PS4/Xbox one were using souped up mobile technology.

Bobafret2817d ago

The Xbox 360 released with the r500 graphics chipset before it was ever released to PC, and the Ps2 had the cell architecture, so your statement is not always true.

AuraAbjure2817d ago

Yeah its mobile processor doesn't belong inside there. It's not a mobile console. We need a new Xbox home console with an AMD ryzen cpu.

The_Sage2817d ago

Red Dead has content that is exclusive to the PS4. If you want the entire game, you should but the PS4 version.

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maybelovehate2817d ago

The trade off is you have to play hundreds of hours with worse performance in order to have 1 hour of exclusive content that still doesn't run as well. So no logical people will be caring. Plus it is just timed and already confirmed not part of the main story.

Critic4l_Strik32817d ago

@maybelovehate

"The trade off is you have to play hundreds of hours with worse performance in order to have 1 hour of exclusive content that still doesn't run as well."

Oh, you already played RDR on the PS4/Pro? You can certainly confirm it performs worse?

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ILostMyMind2817d ago

Since XBox is just a cheap mini PC, no game is being hold back because of it.

neutralgamer19922817d ago

Maybe

I think you need to go see a doctor because something is loose inside your head or you are a different level troll

Because no one is that dumb I am sorry in what universe is gears 4 a tech demo

maybelovehate2817d ago

Gears 4 is a tech demo. The PC version of the game is beyond anything on any console. Or PC for that matter, right now. Sony has some great developers. Naughty Dog in particular makes awesome animations. But animations do not make a tech demo. And sadly the animations in Uncharted 4 are in 30fps. Which is depressing. Sucks they are limited by the trash hardware Sony puts out.

rainslacker2817d ago

The first gears was a technical showcase for the gen. The 4th, it wasn't really a tech showcase, just a prettier version of what had been done before.

Critic4l_Strik32817d ago

@maybelovehate

You keep on praising the systems specs and the performance of the games on the XB1X. Yet, none of that is helping the brand outsell the "inferior" console. You can talk all you want about how more powerful it is, but any of that is helping to take over.

maybelovehate2817d ago

So many Sony bots in here imagining a world where Sony has any good games running at 4k, 60fps. It is is a nice dreams my bots. A nice dream.

neutralgamer19922817d ago

Very nice dreams don't bring pc into this now. If you are talking about consoles than stick with that

God of war
Horizon
Uncharted 4

These games have set the standard for what a console game can do

I know you are blind to facts abs your arguments are without substance. You keep throwing around stuff that doesn't matter when the one thing that matters are games

Gears 4 was 2 years ago since what have ms delivered?

You keep talking about 4k even x can't do native 4k with 60 FPS so what are you mumbling about. By 2020 about half people in western countries will have 4k TV and that's when Sony will push their next Gen console to have true 4k (and so will ms)

You are the worst hater of ps4 on this site

You are worst than septic
Worst than obsecure

And few others but you are top of the food chain and I don't think that much blind hate is good for you enjoy what you play without downplaying something else

Xbox x is a beast of a console and even ms admitted they need to deliver games that's why they are buying studios. If head of the Xbox admits that how can yall keep denying it

maybelovehate2817d ago (Edited 2817d ago )

Actually X has pulled off Native 4k and 60fps with Forza. They also pulled it off at times with Halo 5. And let's not forget every single DF article saying that X runs games better. But you are good bot. Programming is off. But you are doing what your savior demands haha.

Critic4l_Strik32817d ago

Is Forza, Gears and Halo all youve got? Cant you do better than that? Oh, probably not...shame.

FinalFantasyFanatic2816d ago

@skull521,

I certainly don't care when I have a high end pc, I mainly care about the games when it comes to a console, when I want the best possible I performance I go for the pc version.

sinspirit2816d ago (Edited 2816d ago )

If you keep releasing too many iterations too quickly... You might be holding consumers back, or at least the feeling of.

RosweeSon2816d ago

Except they didn’t get the best out of launch model nor the S and don’t get me start on X which basically released alongside 360 games and even older original Xbox games on the most powerful console? X got plenty of power or should have left in the tank.

OnDec762816d ago

How about new original games

Araragifeels 2816d ago

So what happened to the Power Of Cloud? Didn't Spencer said that there need for upgrade since Power Of Cloud can do itself.

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GaboonViper2818d ago

Absolutely, and Scarlet so far seems in good hands after a very solid E3 show.

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corroios2817d ago

Very solid. Lol. Yup. The next 12months will be amazing. Just imagine if they had show some New games? And not the same old franchises...

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The Idea of Microsoft Sunsetting Xbox Is Absolute Nonsense, but It Exposes a Massive Problem

A few days ago, an interview with Seamus Blackley, designer of the original Xbox, sent shockwaves among the community.

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Christopher4d ago

***This whole conspiracy theory (because that’s what this is) is basically entirely based on the idea that everyone involved is lying to us. ***

C'mon now. It's an opinion. Just like your opinion here. And it's from an industry professional who does have more knowledge than we do on how these things work and access to people inside the industry.

I'm not saying he's right, but you spend all this time arguing his stance and why his words are illogical, but then you go and make this sort of statement? Hypocritical.

SimulationDaily4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

It's from someone who has not worked at Microsoft or anywhere close to Microsoft or even in the gaming industry for over 20 years, and has worked at Microsoft for less than 4 years in total. He doesn't know a single one of the people involed and his experience of the topic is so diluted that he has no more authority than any rando on Reddit.

And almost none of the articles citing this silliness do the bare minimum due diligence to mention that essential context.

When you present a ludicrous hot take from someone who is nowhere near a position to know a thing about what Microsoft is doing today, if you think that readers aren't entitled to be made aware of that, we'll have to agree to disagree.

The truth is that a lot of the media outlets in this industry have chucked the bare minimum of professional reporting ethics into the recycle bin in the name of making a quick buck, and this is a pretty obvious example. This has been going on for years, it sucks, and it's only getting worse.

Misleading information for clicks may not offend you, and that's fine, but as someone who has dedicated the past 25 years of his life to informing people, it certainly offends me, and I see no reason not to express that position. Firmly.

Christopher4d ago

***Misleading information for clicks may not offend you, and that's fine***

You really need to stop with the logical fallacies. There's nothing there that says my opinion on the original matter other than calling out your hypocrisy of doing the same thing you complain they're doing. Not even a part of the conversation.

Also, he didn't do it for clicks, journalists turned it into clicks.

SimulationDaily4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@Christopher: his opinion is not the problem, besides the fact that it's nonsensical and based on nothing.
The problem is that it has been presented as a take from someone with authority by professionally bankrupt media that fills up the fact that they have nothing relevant to say with fluff for clicks, regardless of the fact that such a presentation ends up misinforming people.

ABizzel13d ago

Regardless of everyone’s opinion, one thing that’s never good is to be in the comments arguing with people on their opinion, about your opinion, especially in a place where you have no monetization.

1Victor3d ago

@simulation
The way I see it you’re flipping the crumpet and assuming that because he hasn’t been a part of Microsoft for so long he don’t have contacts inside or he is exaggerating what we all can see in Xbox history of lies, deception and half truths since the 360 era.
Its very disingenuous of you to come and complain about his opinion when the patterns has been clear for way over a decade.
Microsoft is a corporation here if they don’t dominate they terminate the product you sound old enough to to remember Zune and windows phones you if not ask bing what happened to them.

ApocalypseShadow3d ago

'Xbox Is Being Sunsetted' — Seamus Blackley, One of the Creators of Xbox, Thinks Recent Shakeup Spells the End for Microsoft's Gaming Business

It clearly says that Blackley THINKS...has an, OPINION, on the matter.

I think his opinion hurt you enough that you had to create an N4G article to try and discredit his OPNION. The fact that someone that hasn't been in the industry for years, carries more weight than someone that only has one comment on his video, yours. And, has less than 2 thousand subscribers. What makes your opinion better than his? He's someone that actually worked at Microsoft. What's your background besides MS Flight Simulator and FFXIV videos?

Here's the deal, Microsoft spent upwards of 100 Billion or more to try to beat Sony. They tried to buy industry pillars like Nintendo and Sega who said no. They pretty much created a service to devalue games to try and control the market and failed. They never won a generation. Most powerful system in the world or not. They couldn't do it by undercutting Sony with their Achilles heal of Series S. Nothing the 3 Trillion company could do but end up releasing their games on Nintendo and Sony's platforms. Their competitor's systems. The amount of coping in your defense of the current Microsoft heads is just hilarious. It is true that not having a gaming background means nothing if you can turn a business around. But there's nothing to turn. Outside hardened Xbox fans, there's no reason that any gamer needs an Xbox when the games are releasing on competitor's platforms. Nadella isn't stupid to try and go back to exclusives that Xbox fans don't buy enough of to keep the developers they bought afloat. Heads have to roll. Just like the Sega days of heading into a new direction.

Read the writing on the wall. Xbox as you know it is dying and dead. No game sales numbers. No console sales numbers. Nothing. Nothing will change their transition to third party other than an outright ban of Japanese game consoles. But the backlash would be so severe, that any new Xbox would be boycotted everywhere. If any new system is released, it would be in name only or the fans that are left. A PC with Microsoft's name on it like the Ally and the Quest headset. but nothing more than that. A platform that has never been profitable. A game service that has never been profitable. That was once almost canned by Nadella before.

Land that MS Flight Simulator plane and leave the clouds. It's over for them. She's there only to help their transition. No system they sell will bring them back when they never were leaders to begin with in the industry. I came out of N4G retirement just to say this. Your opinion carries no weight and is unsupported by the facts of where Microsoft's position is currently.

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lodossrage4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

@SimulationDaily

He may not be in the xbox loop anymore. But he'd surely have a better idea than any of us random people commenting would.

And how to WE know he doesn't know any single person involved? It's not like we can see the man's contact list or know his life personally. And all he did was give his opinion. He never said it was fact. An opinion is not misleading info. If he tried to pass off his opinion as FACT, then you'd have something. But that didn't happen.

We can't be mad about someone coming to the man for an interview answering a question he was asked

SimulationDaily4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

He's not in *any* loop, and he has not been for 2 decades.
How do we know? His responses tell us that. Unless you're unable to read between the lines, you can easily see that he's spitballing without any direct knowledge. The fact that he completely ignores the presence of Matt Booty tells us that he didn't even really read the news, let alone have any real knowledge about it.

Who in the world told you that an opinion can't be misleading information? Of course it can be, when it's wrongly presented as the view of someone with authority on a topic, without being contextualized, which is exactly what happened here.

If you don't know a thing about a situation and someone asks to interview you on it, you can say no.

lodossrage4d ago

His response doesn't tell us who he does/ doesn't know regardless of how long he was away from Microsoft. Again, we don't know this man's personal life or professional contacts to speak on such.

And who in the world told me an opinion can't be misleading info, living my life all these years tells me that. If you're presenting an opinion that should tell you it's not fact. No rational thinking person will sit here and misconstrue the two.

And again, he was asked a question. He never presented himself as an authority, he openly admits he hasn't been there in forever. What more context does he need when he already told us he hasn't been there in so long? Nor has he acted like is opinion is fact.

Now can he say "no" or "no comment" when asked a question? Sure he can, but he doesn't HAVE to. He can offer up his opinion the same way we all do here.

And how can you say he's doing this for clicks? He's the interviewee, not the interviewer or site owner. You have to realize with the video you made you can be accused of the same thing you wrongly pointed the finger at him for.

And for the record, since I know how this site is, I'll say this now. No, this isn't an attack on you. I actually like having convos like this that aren't troll based.

SimulationDaily4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

His response is incredibly vague and drifts into the factually incorrect, for example, when he says "It would have been shocking if they had somebody in there in a meaningful role who was passionate about games, passionate about the creator-driven business of games."
Matt Booty is the second-in-command, which is definitely a "meaningful role," and he's very obviously passionate about games and the creator-driver business of games. As a matter of fact, much more (and with much more relevance) than Blackley himself, who dropped the industry and went to do something else 25 years ago.

No one said HE did it for clicks, although all these "former X" usually do this kind of stuff to appear somewhat relevant when they have not been relevant for a long, long time.

The site that interviewed him and the sites/influencers who presented his opinion with no context as authoritative did it for clicks, because they had no access to any the people even remotely involved, and scraped the bottom of the barrel for something to fill the quota and generate some clicks, and they absolutely misled a ton of people into believing that what he says has some merit.

The "massive problem" isn't that he has an opinion. Opinions like his are a dime a dozen. Is that today's gaming press will fill the air with white noise with zero merit, disingenuously painting it as relevant, regardless of whether their readers are misled into believing something that does not exist.

blacktiger3d ago

First of all I did not watch the video but as far as conspiracy theory goes. Here is my take.

The whole idea for everyone to lie to us is about not owning and be happy. But here is the thing why is it so important for everyone to not own and be happy. What does the elite gain whether we own or not. I understand we not owning cars rather rent is what they want.

But why mess around with video games? I tell you why.
Because they don't want to sell "GPU"
GPU is the main problem. GPU is everything! From 3d printing your house to Mining Bitcoin. Not to mention it's the future that can cripple future government.

Profchaos3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Blackley is the father of Xbox if anyone wants to see it's success it's Blackley

Yet he doesn't think it's long for this world simple as that

I'm more inclined to believe we've been lied to because Xbox has a history of lies and half truths

Stopac2d ago

@SimulationDaily its not a good look for the author of an article to go to the comment section to argue commentors.

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Vits3d ago

Look, I understand the indignation about how the media is talking about this interview. I completely agree on that front. That said, personally, I don’t think Blackley is wrong. Not because he’s a former Xbox executive, but because what he described is something we see time and time again in the corporate world.

If you’ve ever worked in this kind of environment, the sequence of a head leaving, obvious substitute leaving, and then a much younger, completely unrelated executive stepping in feels like déjà vu. Every time we see this pattern, it’s usually because the company is looking for a “shake-up” in a business unit, which often just means restructuring. And restructuring usually means layoffs and shutting things down.

That said, I don’t think Xbox as a brand is going to vanish. What I think is more likely is that the division will be significantly reduced and absorbed into another part of the company.

SimulationDaily3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Glad you understand my view on the press. It's good that at least someone here does.
That being said, placing Matt Booty as Sharma's vice conflicts with that view. Hiring a young CEO with a background of success and supporting them with a veteran vice president is a completely different scenario then one you describe.
The sole idea that Microsoft would be willing to throw away circa 8% of its revenue because of AI is pretty ridiculous.
And if you listen to the reports, you'll know that Sarah Bond was far from the obvious substitute for Phil Spencer.

Vits3d ago

It’s actually the opposite. If they weren’t planning to completely bulldoze the place, then Sharma would be completely alone with an entirely new leadership team, at their mission would be to turn that ship into something else, but keeping the unit itself. The fact that she got Booty as a second hand, instead of a completely new second hand, tells me that they need someone with "experience" to smooth things over while she bulldozes everything.

And honestly, people would be surprised by how often companies choose to “lose” revenue when they realize they can save the same amount or more by simply exiting or reshaping a business line. And that is before AI, that just promise to do anything and it's currently Microsoft focus.

But time will tell. Let’s revisit this in a couple of years and we will see what actually happened. Unfortunately, and I truly mean that, because I don’t want to be right about this, I’ve seen this pattern play out too many times not to believe I’ll end up being right in the end.

SimulationDaily3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Absolutely, let's reconvene in a couple of years. I have absolutely zero doubt about being right. Xbox will still be there, likely bigger than it is now.

"Bulldozing" doesn't fit today's Microsoft's MO at all, nor that of 99% of companies. Companies may choose to lose revenue, but that happens on dead weight businesses, which gaming is not.

And even when they do, they don't park a very successful young executive with a spotless career like Asha Sharma on a business they want to drop. Not only is it massively counterproductive for the company, but she'd likely quit, because she has the resume to get a job anywhere that would give her a business she can lead to success, as she has done with literally everything she has touched in the past decade.

Would I rather see a gamer at the top? Sure, but there's zero doubt that Asha Sharma is an extremely capable exec. Her resume proves it, and you don't waste extremely capable executives doing the palliative care doctor thing.

gold_drake3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

i mean, the leadership was changed out rather swiftly, with someone who has no odea of the business the former had atleast some know-how.

i think they are slowly trying to find something else they can make money off of, and xbox might just be the thing thats costing them more than they think its worth.

that's business. unfortunately

SimulationDaily3d ago

Leadership was changed to someone who has plenty of ideas (and plenty of success under her belt) about *business*, supported by someone who has one of the most extensive careers in the gaming industry.

You don't waste a very successful young executive (who Asha Sharma is; her career is spotless) to babysit a business you want to spin down. This is how business works.

ocelot072d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Question - it's obvious the way the Xbox division hasn't performed well for Microsoft for a long time. The hardware sales has been abysmal compared to their only 2 competitors Sony PlayStation and Nintendo Switch.

I agree with you. You don't put someone like her into a position to babysit a business you want to spin down.

But is sunsetting Xbox hardware really spinning down the business? What if she transforms Microsoft Gaming into the number one game developers/publisher's? Bigger than EA and Ubisoft. Microsoft gaming make plenty games each year for every available console, PC, Handheld PC as well as mobile users via cloud.

GotGame8183d ago

Yeah, not worried about it! Microsoft said it's going with PC Architecture next gen! Hopefully Steam ready! Also, hopping it is upgradable, like Sega and Nintendo were 3 decades ago.

No need for a Pro version. Upgrade memory, exchange/add a board. Buying a mid Gen console upgrade last Gen, you could instantly tell the difference. The majority of current gen games optimized for PRO are great, but they certainly don't make me want to Rush out and buy one. I am happy with my PS5.

It brings me to ask, why so many 5 Pro/Vs Switch 2 comparisons? Seems kinda strange.

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Don't wait two years like me, you need Bazzite on your Asus ROG Ally right now

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