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E3 2018 vs E3 2017: A step forward for Microsoft, a step back for Sony

Where Xbox One owners were treated to a new Halo, Gears of War and Forza at this year's E3, PlayStation fans weren't quite so lucky.

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DiRtY2818d ago

Yeah, I agree.
Sony should not have been bothered to even attend E3. Just upload your gameplay vids of 4 games on your youtube channel. That would have helped. What is the point of a press conference without any announcements?

3 games were announced and two of those are coming to Xbox One as well.

Team_Litt2818d ago

That's what I was saying! Just upload the trailers on YouTube and call it a day!
Save money, time and most of all, save on undue hype!

Obscure_Observer2818d ago

Yeah. A Sony Direct Show would be the better choice.

UCForce2818d ago (Edited 2818d ago )

@Obscure_Observer No, that won’t be good for Sony. Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo have different way to present their own conference. Some of them will do better than others and other do worse each year. So yeah, I will let them decide. The only thing is that they need the do better, not following other companies footstep.

r2oB2818d ago

Microsoft's presentation was good, but let's be honest here, you can sub out the Xbox logos for PS logos for most of it and it would be a PlayStation conference. That just shows how many of the games they showed will end up on PS4 and how many will be exclusively on their console. Sure, a lot of Sony's games will come to Xbox too, but a big chunk of the show focused on 4 AAA games that won't (three are new IPs rather). Microsoft's conference looked better, but Sony's had more substance.

dirkdady2818d ago (Edited 2818d ago )

Sonys conference organization wise was not good but the games outshone what was on microsofts conference.

All you need to ask is did Microsoft show anything that made you want to buy an Xbox? Did Sony do the same? I think Shawn layden needs to let his people run the conference like before

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FlameBaitGod2818d ago

Sony cares more about their event PSX than E3. So they are probably saving everything for that.

Doabarrelroll2818d ago

Yeah and MS annouced like 50 games 45 of them are coming to PS4 and the rest are MIA to who knows when, could've just had a screenshot saying “games are coming, please believe us #waitfornextE3”

So how about you shut up already, if MS didn’t announce them buying studios this E3 would’ve been a disaster.

Was sony’s conference bad?....yes. But the games were spectacular. And thats the reason we watch E3 the GAMES. Specifically games only on your platform.

Greg28012818d ago

Everything Microsoft does at this point is a step forward. But a step back for Sony?? How can showing of the biggest console exclusives a step back?
Sony already have released a lot of great games since the release of the Ps4.
So now because they did not announce a lot of new games its a step back? Microsoft almost had no big succesfull games this whole gen. Of course its a step forward for them.

@Dirty
Well then why did Microsoft have a press conference? To just announce another Halo Forza and Gears seems unnecessary.
Could have just announced that on youtube. We already knew those games were coming. And only Forza and Gears had some gameplay showing

The things that really made the show for Microsoft were the 3rd party trailers. But then again those were not xbox exclusives, so why make a whole show just to show of games that other platforms will receive to?

Sony did not give me more new games, but they did show me a reason to buy those big exclusives they are releasing soon.

DiRtY2817d ago

Sony did not provide a single release date at this show, didn't they?

shinoff21832817d ago

Funny you mention the games coming to xbox because that's what ms did to. They mentioned the usual three and ori. The battletoads announcement was a joke you can expect that in awhile. They also announced alot of multi platform games coming to ps4. See how that works. I don't care about presentation at all its abiut games. Sony brought the best games

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techsquisite2818d ago

Author must either be a glutton for punishment or a supreme troll. We'll know soon enough.

Inzo2818d ago

Where Xbox One owners were treated to a new Halo, Gears of War and Forza at this year's E3..........AGAIN.

There, I fixed it.

Aceman182818d ago

Exactly, the same franchises again. Their conference didn't convince me to rebut the console. But Sony would have convinced me if I didn't already own one. What they showed was great, the MS one although good showing was propped up with 80% 3rd party games coming to PS4 also.

AngelicIceDiamond2818d ago

"80% 3rd party games coming to PS4 also"

Right so lets discussed this real quick. How many E3's has Sony showcased tons of third party games? How many times have they debut'd new AAA 3rd party software at E3 that nobody saw coming? As far as I'm concerned most of this gen especially with Destiny and COD. Nobody's talked about how bad it was for Sony to show off Destiny for the first time.

As I said before Sony and MS share majority of the same library anyway, that's how its always been and how it always will be. In fact it would be extremely crippling to MS if they didn't showcase those newly announced games such Anthem and Cyber Punk. If it were Sony showcasing all those 3rd party games that would be the end of MS literally because that would mean devs don't care for Xbox or have faith in their product.

Sony just like MS will always and continue to show off their games. 3rd party needs to survive somehow.

Aceman182818d ago

@angel

The difference is Sony actually has studios to make a variety of games, and for the conferences it's one of their games that's the highlight unlike MS.

Good on them for trying to change the narrative now, but it took them all of 17 friggin years to figure this out 😒

darthv722818d ago

Wait... was Halo and Gears even at last years E3? Forza I understand because it is annual but Gears and Halo are not. It takes a couple years at least for each game in the series.

Inzo2817d ago (Edited 2817d ago )

Wait... were there any new AAA IP's shown for Xbox at E3 this year?

AngelicIceDiamond2818d ago

The same games MS ended the 7th gen with and now ending the 8th gen with is too much imo. But I wouldn't discredit the trifecta even if they the same tired franchises, They're still major AAA's that will fill the dry wasteland of Xbox exclusives. Sounding harsh but its only truth. Crackdown, Battletoads, Ori and Skate 4 I mean Session lol should throw much needed diversity in their line up.

conanlifts2818d ago (Edited 2818d ago )

Actually we were given a game engine trailer of Halo, the actual game will be years away and Gears 4 has no release window. I would have been happy if we at least had a new Halo and gears in the next 12 months. Instead it will likely be 18 months just for Gears 5 ( Holiday 2019).

The conference from MS was good in terms of showing they might have games from 2020 onwards, but for those of us who bought an X we still lack exclusive games for the immediate future.

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FallenAngel19842818d ago

PlayStation fans aren’t lucky to be treated to the same 3 franchises?

Need I remind the author that Xbox hasn’t had one quality exclusive thus far all year and won’t for the rest of the year until only another Forza releases?

darthv722818d ago

Wait... so it can't just be quality it has to be exclusive too????

UCForce2818d ago

Sure, you can say most third party games will run better on Xbox One X. But that’s debatable. Because we know those games will run much better on PC. And Xbox One X isn’t a system seller here. The real system seller is exclusive games. I’m maybe care about resolution and performance but I need to see it if the game is good or not.

UCForce2818d ago

Xbox One isn’t doing pretty well. That’s why MS is now focusing on the future.

r2oB2818d ago

@ Darth

Wait... so it cant be both? Is that an impossibility for Microsoft? Guess your standards are pretty low.

FallenAngel19842818d ago

Most of the games unveiled at Microsoft’s conference will also be available on Sony’s console, so it doesn’t make sense to say PlayStation fans aren’t fortunate

Chevalier2818d ago

Yeah its terrible Sony fans ONLY are getting the best exclusives this year rolling into the next and almost all of the games shown at the Xbox conference as well. Ah well.....s/

XiNatsuDragnel2818d ago

Remind me Halo, Gears, and Forza tune goes for people on the Xbox platform again.

Battletoads was a cool announcement

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Bluepoint pitched a Bloodborne remake, but FromSoftware turned it down, not Sony

Just days after Sony decided to close remake masters Bluepoint Games, a new report claims that wasn't PlayStation itself that stonewalled the idea of a Bloodborne remake by Bluepoint, but developer FromSoftware.

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BABY-JEDI13h ago

Sony should have proceeded with Bluepoint remaking Bloodbourne. Or even had the sense to get Bluepoint to make a sequel to Demons Souls. Through the broken Giants gate. It was all thereto build upon.
Idiots

Lexreborn212h ago

The more information that comes out, it keeps seeming like the studio really was just relying on redoing other people’s work. If they would’ve just had a team working on an original product aside from remaking bloodborne, a god of war game THEY admitted they just couldn’t get off the ground.

They would’ve had more staying power, clearly they were to dependent on being a port and remake company. And last I remember EVERYONE hates Sony for constantly remaking and re-releasing games. Then they also hate Sony for GaaS. But, Sony stops investing in. Both and pivot and they are terrible right?

neutralgamer199212h ago

And what is wrong with that again this industry is full of remasters and remakes and they were the best at it Sony has so many dormant IPS they could have used

You make it sound like remakes and remasters are a bad thing when the industries full of them Sony themselves have remade The Last of Us just this generation

ApexLanding233h ago(Edited 3h ago)

"Sony themselves have remade The Last of Us just this generation"

And received a ton of hate for it. It's not him that's saying it's a bad thing, it's the gaming community at large including this site that, with rare exception, rips Sony apart for doing remakes and remasters.

Christopher11h ago

There's a plethora of PS3 games that could do with being remade. inFamous series, MotorStorm series, Resistance series, all the PS Eye games w/VR updates, Heavenly Sword, Haze, Killzone series, LBP series, White Knight chronicles, Warhawk. Lots of good things just on PS3 that could be remade for modern consoles and ensure forward compatibility.

Lexreborn28h ago

All of those games can and probably will be remade in-house and with updates that the original developers want to add to them. Just how the GoW Remake is being done in house with upgraded mechanics.

We gotta stop pretending like this was some type of only Bluepoint could do it. If they could, then they would’ve had the green light.

People are so quick to blame the head as the only issue. But just like with Scalebound, perfect dark and several other games that were promised. The devs bit off more then they could chew. And in a sea of complaints of half baked games, decisions like this are sometimes necessary.

Christopher8h ago

***All of those games can and probably will be remade in-house and with updates that the original developers want to add to them.***

(x) Doubt

Lexreborn28h ago

@christopher

Not sure how you can doubt when give an example. But okay, that’s you

Christopher6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

1. It's a remake, not a remaster.
2. The other games have already been remastered before BluePoint even joined Sony.
3. BluePoint has been with Sony since 2021 after doing Demon's Souls and did zero remake jobs since there but helped Sony Santa Monica with Ragnarok and didn't succeed on a GoW Live Service game. That's five years of potential not utilized.
4. If Sony didn't use them during those 5 years to do a single remaster, I highly doubt Sony wants the other studios to focus on doing as such when they could instead focus on new games and IPs.

Lexreborn22h ago

They literally remade shadow of the colossus and demon souls. And still to my point, if Sony Santa Monica is Remaking their own game franchise. Miyazaki stated he would rather do the remake for bloodborne. What makes you think other companies with the umbrella wouldn’t want to remake killzone, infamous and the rest themselves.

If you worked for a company for 5 years, had no original ideas. Failed at the project that was given to you. And your last ditch effort STILL relied on someone else’s work/IP. Why would you expect to keep your job?

That makes no sense and this is literally the most forced hate I’ve seen to date.

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shinXseijuro12h ago

Seems pretty clear that they’re focused on moving foward and giving us new games ? Sure they can do bloodborn but why go back if it’s already great ?

BABY-JEDI12h ago

Every sequel builds upon the successes of previous games. Bluepoint had many games they rebuilt. In which they could have developed sequels to. Sony & Bluepoint should have seen the obvious in front of their eyes. The base assets were all already built. This is an example of severe Managerial failure

shinXseijuro12h ago

Tbh I doubt fromsoftware needs anyone to rebuild a game for them … having to share profits etc . I’m sure they can release it on their own when the timing is right .

shinXseijuro12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Seems like they’re focused on bringing new games to the table and moving forward instead of clinging to the past ? I understand why the matter is not urgent . bloodborn still holds up pretty good

Sorry for double post the website got major lags nowadays .

-Foxtrot12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

I don’t get this

Sony has said they love Bloodborne

Hidetaka Miyazaki loves Bloodborne, it’s like his baby but is super busy with other projects.

Bluepoint pitches a remake like they did with Demons Souls

Sony rejects it because apparently Miyazaki wants to work on it himself and they want to respect his wishes

Miyazaki decides to do The Duskbloods instead…on the Nintendo Switch 2

I don’t understand the issue here, is Miyazaki annoyed with Sony or something. Are those rumours about him not being happy with the Demons Souls remake true? Like this could have happened years ago if they wanted, it should have been the next project after Elden Ring. It’s sad because if Bluepoint was allowed to do this it might have saved them from being shut down.

BABY-JEDI11h ago(Edited 11h ago)

Seemingly Miyazaki had conflicted feelings about Bluepoint’s Demons Souls Remake. IMO all Miyazaki Souls games could learn from Bluepoint’s aesthetic approach/detail/refinement of the originals.
Sour grapes

Deathdeliverer7h ago

Miyazaki is especially close to bloodborne. He said it is the perfect game that embodies everything he has ever wanted to make and the best of his teams efforts. It’s Sonys game, but do you think they would risk losing him as a dev because they did something he wanted to do himself? It’s like Miyamoto. You think him saying I want to make Mario a space duck in the next entry Nintendo will shoot him down? Some devs have earned that “superstar” status and unfortunately Miyazaki will have to leave gaming, one way or another, or decide the time is right to do it himself. Look at what’s going on with the metal gear series now when you have pissed off the GUY. Exactly. Nothing.

Chard6h ago

I’m relieved Bluepoint will never touch Bloodborne. Have a look into what Bluepoint changed from an artistic perspective in the Demon’s Souls remake. Those changes are an affront to god and should be damn near illegal. Bloodborne would’ve better served with a framerate and resolution patch.

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