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Despite a Strong E3 Showing, Microsoft Still Danced Around Some Awkward Truths

Twinfinite Writes: Microsoft had a stronger showing than usual at their E3 2018 press conference, but there's still some lingering issues that plagued the company.

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madhouse022900d ago

Definitely agree... the conference had lots of announcements but when you drill down there wasn't much coming this year, nor were there any significant new IPs.

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Tobse2899d ago (Edited 2899d ago )

Well, they announced a Xbox One exclusive new IP releasing soon via Inside Xbox from a big dev :
https://www.windowscentral....

UCForce2899d ago (Edited 2899d ago )

Vigor is Third Party game and make by Arma developers and that game coming to PC. So it’s not exclusive.

Tobse2899d ago

Nope only for Xbox One. So death stranding isnt exclusive because it will come to Microsoft Windows PCs?
https://twitter.com/vigorth...

UCForce2899d ago (Edited 2899d ago )

You know that Death Stranding is using Decima Engine aka Horizon Zero Dawn. But the thing is that Bohemia Interactive is always focus on PC market. So yeah, it will come to PC later.

Kojima confirmed that Death Stranding is a full Sony exclusive and will only be on PS4, says Guerilla Games were a huge help to them and that Decima Engine is an incredible tech.

Tobse2899d ago

Would you mind linking me the confirmation?
It might come maybe if....
Ye lets just assume that. Ms is.pretty transparent about things being timed or not recently.

UCForce2899d ago (Edited 2899d ago )

Really ? I don’t think that MS will ignore the PC market that easily. After all, MS really want more profit from PC. Another thing, GG is helping Kojima.

morganfell2899d ago (Edited 2899d ago )

Any hint of Death Stranding for PCs has been completely wiped. It is a Sony owned IP (Do the research). Its a PS4 exclusive. A real exclusive.

Tobse2899d ago

So you dont ok. Its a pure one yeyeye.

MasterCornholio2899d ago (Edited 2899d ago )

Death Stranding does use the Décima engine.

https://www.gamesradar.com/...

"Kojima likened his studio's collaboration with Guerrilla Games to the evolution of the space program, and called the modified version of Decima a rocket that would take them farther than anything before"

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EmperorDalek2899d ago

Microsoft showed around twice the amount of PS4 games than Sony did... so even for people who only have a PS4, the Xbox conference was arguably still the better watch. The pacing and format were painfully bad. As a show, the Sony one just wasn't enjoyable to sit through.

Sony had no surprises at all.
All their games were somewhat similar - Story driven third person action games. Which was stupid because they could have shown off Dreams for more variety... I know people who were incredibly disappointed by the lack of a release date for it, despite supposedly being in the final stages of development for six months.

Unpopular opinion - Some of the exclusives they did show weren't as impressive as people are saying, especially in the gameplay department. Spider-Man and Tsushima both use very similar QTE combat to the outdated Arkham games, for example.

CaptainOmega2899d ago (Edited 2899d ago )

@Emperor

“Sony had no surprises at all”

I think the spectacular gameplay footage was a really good surprise. What’s wrong with third person, story driven action games?

“Spiderman and Tsushima used very similar QTE combat”
Spiderman gameplay is fantastic. It’s an updated, more stylish version of the arkham combat. Ghost’s combat only QTE that i noticed was when he jumped down and killed the 3 men. Nothing else about made it feel like an Arkham game.

MS did nothing that screamed “You need to go out and buy an Xbox if you don’t have one already”.

Alucard_4202898d ago

@EmperorDalek no surprises??? PS plus COD black ops 3 not a surprises??? NIOH 2 not a surprises??? RE2 Remake not a surprises??? ................... I think you get the point. If you don't, your just labeling yourself a MS fanatic.

EmperorDalek2898d ago

Showing an already announced game isn't a surprise, no matter how good it looks... what are you even getting at? There's nothing wrong with third person, story-driven action games at all. The problem is it meant the show had hardly any variety in games shown... Which would be more acceptable if they didn't have something like Dreams, which could have been a point of difference.

Spider-Man's combat looked no better than Arkham's. You're not paying attention if you don't see it in Tsushima - look at the very first kill for an example. What do you think the player did? Press one button at the right time.
I'm not saying that they have bad combat, not at all. But the gameplay shown wasn't ground-breaking, as people are hyping them up to be.

Resident Evil 2 was expected, Nioh 2 was only earlier than expected, not surprising. Black Ops 3 sure, but most people watching it would have already owned it.

EmperorDalek2898d ago

I'm just talking about the quality of the presentation. I own both, I don't care what's exclusive and what isn't, so for me, the Xbox show was a better watch... they did show more than triple the games, after all.

But to talk about how MS gave people a reason a people to buy Xbox One,

Game pass is an incredible option for people just getting into gaming now... Not only does it include a lot of games ranging from high quality to smaller indies, but for now every Microsoft published game will be on it at launch. Forza Horizon 4 and Crackdown 3 will be part of game pass day one... there's so much value in it, especially for newcomers.
You can try most of the Xbox exclusives by subscribing to game pass for a month. Believe it or not, that is quite a decent amount of exclusives. if you're just getting into Xbox now. So even if you already have a PS4, that

Xbox One X will have the best version of just about every game, and they demonstrated that there are a lot of games taking advantage of that.

Gears 5, Forza Horizon 4, Ori, Crackdown 3. Not a bad set of upcoming games. But no, probably not enough to justify getting an Xbox One for alone...
...But in every single aspect other than exclusives, Xbox One is the better system. That's what they showed this E3.

CaptainOmega2898d ago

@Emperor

"You're not paying attention if you don't see it in Tsushima - look at the very first kill for an example. What do you think the player did? Press one button at the right time”.

Sigh. That isn’t what a QTE is. A QTE involves a prompt on screen for the player to interact with it in order to perfom an action. Ryse had this when enemies turned yellow or blue. God of War 1-3 had this when beating bigger enemies and bosses. In Ghost, it didnt’ look like there was ANY prompt at all for Gin to attack and kill someone in one strike.

You’re 0-1 there.

"Spider-Man's combat looked no better than Arkham’s.”

You’re kidding... right? I hope you’re kidding.
Spiderman- https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Arkham Knight https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Spiderman looks similar to Arkham only in the respect that you’re beating up multiple enemies. Spiderman looks like it has MUCH better improved and polished combat than Arkham, with much better variety to combat moves. It ‘not looking no better’ is simply a lie.

You’re 0-2.

"I'm not saying that they have bad combat, not at all. But the gameplay shown wasn't ground-breaking, as people are hyping them up to be. “

Remember when we first got to see The Divison in action? The player on the screen closed the car door as he was moving past it, that was great at the reveal but it was never in the final release. Naughty Dog had a similar type of advanced animation combat in their gameplay trailer of TLOU2. A dev who worked on Tomb Raider called some sequences ‘fake’... but ND had a panel where they explained how much they are improving the AI and in-game animations. For example, Ellie taking the arrow out of the guy, squeezing through the shelves, going prone under cars, enemies looking for you under cars and pulling you out.. all considered to be actually real at this point in the game. The same type of animation in Ghost where Gin fluidly strikes/impales, and dismembers the enemies. Spiderman has similar amazing animation. Only game out of the four that looked like it had somewhat ‘regular’ animation was Death Stranding.

You’re 0-3.

Again. MS did nothing that screamed “You need to go out and buy an Xbox if you don’t have one already”. Playstation did. Hell, Playstation even announced a custom Kingdom Hearts 3 console that will fly off the shelves.

In terms of Xbox’s games?? Only worthwhile exclusives shown were Forza Horizon 4 and Gears 5. (Neither looked that impressive tbh. Forza had changing seasons, that’s about it. Only new thing in Gears 5 was you can now swing a hammer weapon.. lol. Cool!!! /s. Really surprised there wasn’t an Crackdown 3 MP gameplay.. THAT could have been something).

CaptainOmega2898d ago

@Emperor
"Gears 5, Forza Horizon 4, Ori, Crackdown 3. Not a bad set of upcoming games. But no, probably not enough to justify getting an Xbox One for alone”
-- I agree. There’s a serious problem if you can’t justify buying a system for 4 games.

"But in every single aspect other than exclusives, Xbox One is the better system. That's what they showed this E3.”

No.. Xbox One X is the better platform than the S, not the Pro. It’s annoying how fanboys say “We play the best multiplats”.. when in reality only a fraction of users are playing the better multiplats with only minimal framerate/resloution differences to the Pro... while the other players on an S(or original Xbone One) are playing around 900p/1080p.
They also have an option to play games for a MUCH cheaper price than actually going out and buying the game (that’s cool if you don’t like to spend money on actually owning the game). It’s hilarious how MS never releases ‘games sold’.. instead it’s now ’number of players’. Don’t get me wrong.. engagement and players isn’t a bad thing.. but when the game is essentially $10... having a inflated playerbase isn’t at all impressive.

It’s funny. I hear this mantra all the time: “Xbox One is the better system”.. yet it’s being outsold 2:1 and despite it being a more powerful system... exclusives games look much better on the vanilla PS4 than exclusives games on the Xbox One X.

When PS5 and Xbox “2" relelease, Xbox 2 might be more powerful, but Playstation will still continue to have the better exclusive titles.. and THAT... is what drives console sales.

Chevalier2898d ago

@Emperor

" Nioh 2 was only earlier than expected, not surprising.:

Really?! Gears 5 (6th game in the series), Halo Infinite(12th if you include side games) and Forza Horizon 4 (11th in the series) is 'surprising'?! Wow those games are so 'new'. As for the rest of the conference, showing more games that will be on PS4 as well was cool, but, still doesn't change the fact they will be on PS4 and the extremely forced mention of the word 'exclusive' when the screen showed launch exclusive was just tacky as hell. Its nice that your wearing some dark rose tinted glasses that hide these 'exclusives' in plain sight.

As for 4K, so you waited 5 years to get to say that? Slow clap. If resolution mattered why the heck did you wait 5 years to get an X? Higher resolution doesn't make a game better. As for X pass, with the poor quality of Xbox exclusives and games being constantly taken out its literally cheaper for me to buy the Gears and Cuphead expansion than paying for the pass. Also the idea of paying hundreds of dollars over the years and not actually owning any of the games isn't as enticing as you make it out to be.

Also your downplaying of the quality of PS4 exclusives is laughably bad. You're suggesting the games are overhyped 3rd person games with no 'new' gameplay elements..... Newsflash Gears 6, Forza's 11th game, Halos 12th game are somehow bringing 'new' stuff to the table how?!!

Your awarding points for showing a game first even though those same games will be on PS4 and play the same? Uhh okay there.

All the points that you suggest make Xbox 'better' is your opinion. Nice that you think so highly of yourself that your opinion somehow has some weight, but, your opinion is just that its NOT factual.

Also fyi if you wanted to see more games Sony channel on youtube announced far more after their E3. Lots of actual exclusives with *gasp* release dates! Also legit not coming to Xbox exclusives not this 'launch' exclusive garbage.

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aConIsDemocracy2899d ago

i thought the gow trailer was bloody awful.

Heavenly King2899d ago

The characters is Gears4 look better :S

spicelicka2899d ago

The game isn't coming till fall 2019 most likely, don't assume that's how it's going to look.

https://gfycat.com/PettyVel...

Also, it looks amazing. I'm sure the character models will improve.

Jinger2899d ago

Looked fantastic to me, the gameplay snippets in between looked great.

UCForce2899d ago (Edited 2899d ago )

I got cringe watching it. Because these new characters sound like they are whinnying more and annoying.

Jinger2899d ago

@UCForce

Yes how dare Kait be a bit whiney after someone obviously important to her died...

Like you would care about anything Gears of War related anyway haha

Chevalier2898d ago

That didn't look that great to me imho. Its year 5 rolling into 6 and its not like they're building a new engine from the ground up so if that 'looks good' to you and you want to give the oh it will look better in 2019 excuse then way to set the bar low. The Gears games need better writing in general. Its ridiculous that we're getting into the 6th game in the series and the bad writing and dialogue is still a legit issue. Just look at God Of War just launched their 6th game and its night and day better in writing and dialogue. Like Oldboy and Remember suggest ask for better than we're getting.

xX-oldboy-Xx2899d ago (Edited 2899d ago )

Yep - the writing and character models were atrocious, remember it's one of their premier franchises. xbox owners deserve better.

RememberThe3572899d ago (Edited 2899d ago )

It doesn't seem like they want better. From what I've read around here people seem pretty happy with it. It took me back to when Doms wife died and I laughed out loud because of how corny it was. For whatever reason these games are allergic to story telling.

xRacer74x2899d ago

Sony blinders strong, they could take a dump on stage and sony fans would say they won.

UltraGaming2899d ago

Sony execs could start ww3 and all the fans would be like " Yeah wooooo this is exactly what we need".. Both had decent shows. I will be buying the Sony exclusive games to play on my pro everything else will be bought for my one x, purely because I prefer the controller and xbox live plus all my friends game on xbox.

WillyC0092899d ago

Microsoft blinders are strong. They could literally release no exclusives all year and repeat their tired forza, halo and gears formula and you'd still say they won.

prankster1012899d ago

Nah... That's Nintendo you're talking about. The Big N practically did take a dump, and fans still lapped it up.

xRacer74x2898d ago

@WillyC009, I would play all on my xbox still. Better controller to me and my friends all game on Xbox Live.

xRacer74x2898d ago

@prankster, I liked the exclusive titles for switch they showed.

WillyC0092898d ago

@xracer74x

Soooo......microsoft blinders. Got it. Thanks for the verification.

Everything you said was subjective. Not fact. Remember that.

Chevalier2898d ago

Well its hard to blame you. Seeing those amazing PS4 games is hard to deny, must seem like a mirage considering how bad Xbox exclusives are. Plus Gears 6th series game, Halos 12th and Forza 11th game is what is 'new' for you guys. PS4 and Switch exclusives destroy Xbox easily and actually sell rather than have numbers of people played and hours played metrics. I'm sure Xbox is happy you can at least bump up their hours played stat since they're too embarrassed to release numbers.

pinkcrocodile752898d ago (Edited 2898d ago )

A blinder is either a guy that goes around blinding people or the actof doing something brilliantly "You've played a blinder, my son"

Blinkers on the otherhand are used with horses to restrict their field of vision.

It's a bit like the american's saying "Eye Glasses" instead of "Glasses", like we have to be told where to put them on the body.

As for gears 5, looks great as we have enough 3rd party games to keep us going in the meantime. I'm pretty chilled about it to be honest.

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chaos9992899d ago

Everyone is scared of RDR2 release this Fall so there's no way they wanted to face-off the Rockstar title.
Both MS and Sony have nothing exclusive 6 months from now. "Just" Spider-Man for PS4.
The problem is that MS didn't release a Major AAA title in some time while Sony had both God of War and Detroit.

alb18992899d ago

MS released stay of decay and sea of thieves. You can like does games or not but they are options.

Eldyraen2899d ago

He said Major AAA games. SoT and SoD are not major and quite frankly are arguably AAA at best. Neither compare to anything like GoW, Uncharted, Gears, Halo, Forza even, etc. they’re probably both below Ryse, QB, SSO really.

I enjoy SoD2 though and wanted to play SoT but just sort of passed over it without feeling like I missed anything.

Rude-ro2899d ago

Not AAA titles.
Just because they were marketed as such, does not make them AAA...
Not taking away the releases, but if you are counting those, then we should be counting all games released by Sony to make a comparison.. not just their AAA releases against Microsoft’s highly marketed indie style $30 games

CP_Company2899d ago

You need to some rechearch before writing comments like this. Yakuza Kiwami 2 coming and other PS4 exclusives too, if you don't know them, don't try to make a case.

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TheColbertinator536d ago

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GreekHobo536d ago

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I don't why are you getting these dislikes, cuz you're right. The only digital store where you own the games is GOG, cuz you literally get install files.
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GamerRN536d ago

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gold_drake536d ago (Edited 536d ago )

the biggest issues are definitely the car brand and music licensing in the game.

Knushwood Butt536d ago

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Alos88536d ago

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46player536d ago

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GreekHobo536d ago

>Sony
>Handled properly

Sir, have you ever thought of doing stand up? You're hilarious.
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Should I remind you of Sony hiding (until recently) some older PS1 games behind PS Plus highest tier paywall?

rob-GP536d ago

"Sony hiding (until recently) some older PS1 games behind PS Plus highest tier paywall?"

You do realise that it was Capcom that decided to only allow their games to be accessible via PS Plus, and not bought, right...

Sony had literally nothing to do with it, otherwise you'd see other games - such as SIE published titles - doing the same thing.

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Sony probably can't afford it...lol

gold_drake536d ago (Edited 536d ago )

the biggest issues are definitely the car brand and music licensing

However.
if you know that will be an issue down the road, make better deals.

this will definitely be another huge issue for FH5

HellspawnPR1981536d ago

Does the author knows the car manufacturers put limitations to their products license?

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