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Xbox and Phil Spencer display a masterclass in E3 101

After Blair finished watching the Xbox E3 press conference again, he puts his thoughts to words as to how well Xbox and Phil Spencer demonstrated a masterclass in E3.

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chrisx2904d ago (Edited 2904d ago )

masterclass?...ok. the only major xbox game this year is Forza. no new IP announced. all major games shown on ms e3 I'll play on my ps4. if that's masterclass then alright.

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Gazondaily2904d ago

It absolutely is a masterclass. Everyone doubted the future of Xbox and now very clearly we know that Xbox is taking it seriously with 5 studio acquisitions in one year. And that's just this year.

These are big long term moves and Microsoft is intent on making their next gen console best in class as well. That all is extremely positive news.

We will see what these new studios bring. We already know of Playgrounds new IP and we'll see what Ninja Theory is cooking. We'll have new Battletoads as well which is great.

People might bemoan the usual gears halo and forza as well but look how good they look this time. A whole new engine for Halo, 60fps and 4k for Gears and Forza with a 60fps option and a game that looks absolutely stellar.

This year is weak absolutely except for the incredible looking Forza. That is a given but the future looks great.

Xbox fans will love what Spencer managed this E3 and that's restore faith in the Xbox brand when everyone was talking about them turning into a service, not having a new Xbox or whatnot.

That's a big narrative shift. Xbox is taking gaming seriously and finally making the right moves after making such a blunder at the start of this gen.

chrisx2904d ago (Edited 2904d ago )

Dude nothing ms presented gave a "reason to buy xbox" vibe. These are basic things that should have been done and for now yet more promises for the future. you just said it yourself, more halo Forza gears, and also admitted obviously that this year is weak for xbox. If really these can amount to a "masterclass" to you then uh ok.

Gazondaily2904d ago (Edited 2904d ago )

"These are basic things that should have been done and for now yet more promises"

Promises? They've gone and bought those 5 studios. It's not a promise anymore, it's done deal. Yes they neglected to do this before but now they are and that's that really.

They have variety in their line-up beyond the usual 3 now with these new studios working for them along with Japanese games and others.

Those usual 3 are big things for Xbox fans particularly cause they look so impressive. It's just a starting point now for Xbox to grow at a time when people were calling for the demise of the Xbox brand

corroios2904d ago

Don't mislead gamers.. 5 studios. How many of those are already doing games just for the Xbox??? How many? Its easy PR.

The studio they got is Ninja theory this means how many new games next gen? 1, 2?

ABizzel12904d ago

This is the first time I disagree with you about Xbox E3.

Masterclass is a huge stretch, it was a good conference and good showing, but they needed much more for this to be a "Masterclass". They needed a full 2018 line-up instead of a we'll see you in 2019 and get ready for the next Xbox from there. They needed new exclusives outside of Gears, Halo, and Forza. Finally they needed announcements for the games being developed by these 5 new studios, and honestly 1 big studio outside of Ninja Theory that wasn't already making exclusives for MS to begin with. That would have been a "Masterclass".

It was a good conference, but it was good for the future of the Xbox brand and would have been great if this was the Xbox 4 reveal, but for the XBO holiday 2018 this was lackluster.

A bad 2018 carried by 3rd party, in order to produce a solid 2019 offering, and pave the way for Xbox 4 in 2020 (if not holiday 2019, since MS is all about generations not mattering anymore with Game Pass and Play Anywhere).

firelogic2904d ago (Edited 2904d ago )

Studio A: Only made State of Decay games exclusively for Xbox/PC
Studio B: Only made Forza games exclusively for Xbox/PC
So nothing really changes with those acquisitions. It'd be like Sony buying Quantic Dream. Not a difference maker because they only make games for Playstation anyway.

Studio C: We Happy Few - not really a big get (solely based on that game)
Studio D: Ninja Theory. They could turn into a AAA studio with proper funding. Not there yet.
Studio E: Who knows. They're totally new.

Also, I don't think they should be applauded for a few studio acquisitions this late in the game. This should have happened a decade ago. They've been in the console market for 18 years.

DarXyde2904d ago

Counterargument:

Xbox is clearly about One X now. Great for those with one, bad for anyone else. I wasn't convinced to upgrade, I'll say that. And sure, the original Xbox One is getting those games too, but it's still relying considerably on Xbox One X's power to make multiplatform games look better.

I thought they had the best showing they've had in years and will probably have a better showing than Sony. On the other hand, Sony has the least to prove and the games we know about (which will probably be what's shown at E3) are pretty damn solid. Never sleep on Nintendo.

Not knocking Xbox here since they're beginning to get a finger on the pulse. Moves in the right direction, but I think the fanaticism is a bit much.

Elda2904d ago (Edited 2904d ago )

The Initiative a new studio is credit,Undead Labs been working with them for a while now for their mediocre State of Decay.Playground has be doing their Forza games,Compulsion another mediocre indie developer & Ninja Theory which was the best out of them all.Hopefully NT doesn't go in the direction Rare did.MS acquisition of these developers is ok but nothing major,guessing with the 2 out of 5 it's a start.

PUBG2904d ago

The only people who bemoan Halo, Gears and Forza are people who aren't fans of shooters or driving games. For fans of these big game franchises, I'm sure that there was nothing but delight.

It just goes to show, with all of the negative comments from a noisy and maniacle playstation fanbase, that they will never bring moderation to their ridiculous, intolerant and insane opinions. Best thing to do is ignor them from here on out, since they can't be reasoned with.

morganfell2904d ago

@firelogic,

Studio D already put their last 3 games on Xbox so no real gain there. And MS dumped them once before so they know what's coming.

ClanPsi12904d ago

I'm interested to hear your opinion after the PS conference has ended.

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Christopher2904d ago

1. Yeah, we all know they are hurting now for content compared to Sony.

2. But I don't get how you can move goal posts to say no new IP when they did show new stuff coming in 2019 and thereafter.

Halo Infinite
Gears Tactics
Gears Pop!
Gears 5
Ori and the Will of the Wisps
Sea of Thieves expansion
FH4 Official reveal
PUBG content update
Session
Black Desert
Cuphead DLC
Tunic
Battletoads

3. None of that is on PS4.

4. Maybe it's not good enough for you, but for others, it's the right stuff. It isn't nothing, though.

The 10th Rider2904d ago

I think people are also seriously overstating what Sony is publishing for the year. God of War, Detroit, Dreams, Spiderman , and two remakes. Microsoft has Sea of Thieves, State of Decay 2, and Forza Horizon 4. I don't really count remakes considering the Xbox One can already play tons more older games, which would make it 4 VS 3. There's a definite difference in *quality*, but it's not like Sony is publishing that many more titles this year than Microsoft is.

As I said, huge difference in quality, as Forza Horizon is really the only one of Microsoft titles that will be critically acclaimed, but in terms of quantity there's really not a huge difference.

AngelicIceDiamond2904d ago

Fanboy calls another person a fanboy, typical fanboy 101. I got no history of fanboyism unless you can point to where I talked down at Sony or spread, hate, negative agenda's, lies, or just a asshole pessimist towards Sony. And yes you did say that you said " If wishes were horses". Its like spitting in someones face and saying you didn't do it or denied it. Are you really that stupid, extreme denial, or living in your own world? Or all 3, most likely all 3.

Sony isn't the issue I like Sony its their annoying ass fans such as yourself I have big time problems with and can't stay out of Xbox articles. If you gotta be a fanboy do it on Sony articles, bash, hate, lie, make fun of, high five around the MS hate parade for all I care just do it in articles you like. Doing what you do to a piece of entertainment that you hate, but others may like, makes you look like an asshole and gives me the right to take you down ( in which I will every time so get use to it) because I consume Xbox content amongst other gaming content. Fanboyism is a choice and you're choosing it, now suffer the consequences and get owned every single time, because you know I'm a little tired of it, just a little.

As I said wheres all the multimedia stuff and what happen to MS being a 3rd party ONLY. Tell me where bro?

michellelynn09762904d ago (Edited 2904d ago )

You said exactly what a lot of us think. It is like, no one on this site is allowed to be happy but Sony fans. The radicals on here take a lot of fun out of this site. I am happy for Microsoft fans and MS looks like they will be buulding a bright future.

Sitdown2904d ago

I agree with you both; regardless of what Microsoft does, people will knock it. It's like they can't enjoy their console of choice without bashing other's preferred system if it differs from theirs. Unless you own stock in your preferred gaming platform, it's just ridiculous. While these companies have competing systems, they are competing together to keep our hobby alive.

AngelicIceDiamond2904d ago

"These are basic things that should have been done and for now yet more promises for the future." So now these are basic things now no big deal right? So whatever happened to MS being a service only? No new console? They'll never have exclusives? You must love the taste of your foot.

JaguarEvolved2904d ago

Halo, gears, Forza? Then revealing indie studios with a mediocre studio that'll probably have games in probably 3years or more. Microsoft failed at e3

Automatic792904d ago

@Chrisx

For once admit the show was good and stop trying to downplay. The show was well paced, had excellent reveal and shows MS is doubling down on Xbox.

Elda2904d ago

I agree with ChrisX,he stated exactly what I thought.

SuperSonic912904d ago

The 8th Gen of Consoles are coming to an end and its kinda too late for this so called master class. None of them five is even in yhe league of Mojang ot how Rare used to be or even Naughty Dog for that matter.
We want games not promises.

Aceman182904d ago

It was a good presser, but nothing about it was masterclass come on now lol.

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PhoenixUp2904d ago

But this conference didn’t do a good job at enticing people who otherwise wouldn’t get an Xbox One console to suddenly do so.

FallenAngel19842904d ago

This conference still didn’t do much to improve Xbox One’s 2018 exclusive lineup, which will be unlike the case with Sony’s & Nintendo’s upcoming conferences that will focus on a lot of upcoming 2018 exclusives.

But I guess when you been starved for quality exclusive content for so long, anything can seem masterclass.

ShottyatLaw2904d ago

I'm not expecting much more for 2018 from Sony other than Spiderman, though. Do you really expect more?

Forza, Spiderman, and Smash plus Red Dead, Tomb Raider, Fallout, BFV, and so many others shows me that MS, Sony, and Nintendo would be wise to focus on 2019 instead, which it looks like they're doing.

It didn't get much attention, but I've also got high hopes for Ashen, too. It's my sleeper pick for indie of the year.

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XiNatsuDragnel2904d ago

There conference was good, not masterclass.

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Take-Two CEO Once Again Side Steps Grand Theft Auto 6 Price Point

Strauss Zelnick says price of GTA 6 is being carefully considered and that Rockstar is focused on "making the most spectacular piece of entertainment on Earth."

Kuma25d ago

If GTA 6 abandons everything that made GTA 5 great, it will crash and burn right out of the gate. GTA 5 was funny and not at all PC. My worry is that they will cave to the PC crowd and ruin the vibes.

Eonjay25d ago

They got freaking BBLs twerking on the top of trucks for the gram, the freaking Flordia joker, and dude running down the stree in their undies and you are worried about it being 'too PC'? The internet has runied gamers. It doesn't matter how non-PC they make the game, you will all listen to the grifters telling you not to believe your lying eyes lol.

gigoran825d ago

"Rockstar Games’ co-founder and former VP of Development Jamie King said he envisions GTA 6 as a game that’s “maybe not quite as edgy or quite as funny” as its satirical predecessors."

oh yeah, totally internet grifters spreading rumors...

blacktiger25d ago

That's part of the plan, they destroyed you but they need to destroy the shareholders? Only 1 shre holder is the true elite that don't care

1nsomniac25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

Meh.., if it’s above £55 I ain’t buying it.

Rockstar are genuinely not half the company they used to be. I was a die hard GTA fan I’ve purchased every game and expansion and spin off day 1.

My opinion of GTA6 is that I can take it or leave it. Not bothered. They burnt too many bridges.

DaReapa25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

So they're actually leaving the door open for an L.A. Noire sequel? Nice!

VaNdAl25d ago (Edited 25d ago )

He should just come out and say it already it's getting stupid it's going to be a 100 bucks $200 for the special edition🤡🤡; 29315;🤣♿

Storm2325d ago

I won't be getting this game until I can get it for $70. SHoot, I could wait for it to be even lower. I don't need the game that badly as my backlog is still huge and I am enjoying playing other things.

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay26d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn227d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn226d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown27d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay26d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay26d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac26d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger27d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300027d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde27d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde26d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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