Even if true which wouldn't surprise me, it doesn't excuse pretty much every gripe I have with the game. The way the original currently plays is a step up in almost every way and actually sounds like the sequel. Bungie dropped the ball big time and unlike with the original, it's the dedicated fans who are most angry. Seems pretty obvious that Bungie have some serious dead wood in high up positions and it's getting to the point where I'm actually thinking Activision buying them out might actually not be such a bad idea.. it can't get much worse than that!

d2 is actually a good game. Your likely to get a lot of playtime out of it

Being with Microsoft doesn't seem so bad anymore hey Bungie. How they thought they could succeed without intervention by Activision is beyond me. Activision don't give a damn about Bungie or their development ethos. They wanted their loyal fans, their next IP and to milk the game dry. They'd then sow the seeds to break up the founding members. Insert people that will play nice with them and eventually buy them out for the IP. It's Infinity Ward Gate all over again. Bungie are dead as we remember them perhaps the core members will assemble under a new company one day.

It is because they have Luke Smith in charge of the franchise. His previous job was at KOTAKU. When he said that he felt the story between the player and The Stranger in Destiny 1 was wrapped up nicely before D2 launched, I knew then that we were in trouble. No stroyteller worth a damn would think that story had been wrapped up.

No wonder it was so forgettable. Good for 10 or 12 hours though.

So this explained the re-hash content, enemies and content that should have been an expansion for Destiny 1.
They should have continue adding expansion to Destiny 1 instead of releasing a "Destiny 2". This way players have the new content and old content to play.

Got an amazing deal so picked up the deluxe edition. Now at 318 warlock ... Grinding hard to get to 335.. Yet to do the Leviathan raid ..

Wow, again !?

Bungie was better off under Microsoft. That said a lot of the talent never left in the first place.
But I think Activision is largely to blame for Destinys problem. If you look at the concept of the game, the base game itself, its clear that this game had lots of talent behind it. It has a lot of potential that was ruined by a greedy publisher and a developer who cant seem to keep their publisher in check.

Microsoft should take back Bungie(pretty sure they still have a stake) and let them make a true Halo MMO instead of the reskin that Destiny is. Its funny because they wanted to move away from Microsoft so they don't have to work on Halo. But what did they end up doing? They made Halo in a different setting and different characters.
Seriously the designs of Destiny look straight out of a halo game. So why not let them make the real deal. A full on Destiny style Halo MMO. With crossplay between Xbox and Windows 10.
Everyone has been asking for a Halo MMO and for a time we thought Destiny could fill that void. But it just didn't do it.

Destiny 2 was in development,..until it wasn't

Love the 180 with people here. Me and some others said it was basically Destiny 1.5...we're told to shut up because it's getting great reviews. Months later people are now saying the same thing....gee, good one guys, shame you already gave them your money and were suckered into it yet again.

Reboot this giant POS again!!!!

That explains alot.

Such a boring, watered down, uninspired and cheesy game. I went back to Destiny 1 and appreciated it that much more. Thanks Destiny 2.

Got Battlefront 2 when it was half off at $35.00 never got Destiny 2. But most games Im waiting for sales now like anything made by EA & Destiny

Same excuse as Mass Effect Andromeda. It's bullshit to try and cover up the fact they tried to fuck their fanbase over for more money and were more interested in implementing monetisation over developing an enjoyable game (see putting the real Bioware on Anthem duty, while fucking up ME). Sacrificing fun for money is not a mistake in development, it was intentional.

Stop listening to these serial abusers.

We heard this exact same shit last time Destiny 1 completely disappointed people, I'm not going to fall for it again. I'm sure in another 2 years we'll get "Report: Destiny 3 Rebooted Development 16 months before release."

After buying the first game on day one, and seeing how disappointing it was, I'm amazed at how many people bought Destiny 2, despite the fact that it has sold less than the first one.

Bungie was once a great developer. But there worst decision was to sign a 10 year contract with Activision

Excuses excuses. Wan't it also mysteriously re-written just before they released the 1st one with lack of content. This is all smoke in mirror stuff trying to justify not looking after the core players and losing over 70% of the playerbase since release ... again... lol.. Ive quite it too and stupidly paid for the 1st 2 expansions. traded in my console for an upgrade and won't be buying again. Lets hope anthem doesnt fail this bad and they see these mistakes and make a better game for the issues Destiny is having. Not holding my breath with EA but hopeful.

Better late than never.

It’s ok we have Horizon: Hunter’s Gathering. 😆

Sony needs to get back to making great single player games!

I'm not too sure a lot of the people who visit N4G know what Sony have said recently. They "Sony" want an increase of monetization of their user base and deepen sales on other platforms. So to mitigate the rise in hardware components cost. More expensive services, games, micro transactions and lastly more live service stuff. Who would have thought 🤷‍♂️

An expensive lesson but I think a lesson worth learning

You would have thought that the Concord disaster would have been enough.

Looks like they finally got the message.

Good for sure, but did TLOU Factions really need to die for this? It never needed to be live service, 39.99 and we'd play it forever as is.

I'll never understand why they bought Bungie in the first place (especially for that price), Sony got grifted hard.

Duh! I mean really though, how is it that us bum ass gamers figured that out before these high-paid executives?

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i mean i'm surprised they didn't see this sooner from the reaction to almost every live service game thats come out.

Do single player campaign games including some games that have sp & multiplayer modes with co-op basically like the components in Halo & Destiny but try something new that's not a typical shooter. An action or action adventure game would be nice.

Bungie have problems internally for sure but Sony shouldn’t get a free pass here. Sony have bungled their management of them big time with their live service mandate. Did they forget Bungie’s pedigree in making single player games?

No no guys come on
15th times the charm

Bungie was such a bad investment for Sony, especially considering what they paid for it. MS pushed them to do that after getting Bethesda and Activision. One MS exec said they wanted to spend Sony out of business in 2019.

The less live services they do the better. Their single player games will ALWAYS be their bread and butter.

It was a very bad move. They way overpaid for something many of us don’t care about, live service mp. If they paid maybe 1/10th or so it wouldn’t be so bad but billions for a super risky studio. Their gunplay in games is great but that only lasts so long. They should have them make some single player games and maybe they can recoup some of that $$