@Goldby

the excuse to not show games until closer to release was just a way for them to avoid having more scrutiny put on them earlier because a few people were using the "sony shows games too early" thing as if it were a bad thing. People gave MS an out, and they used it....for several years now, and they still show their games a couple years out. I wouldn't doubt that at the next E3, they show a few of the games they have slated for 2-3 years from now. MS is just at a point where they can't just keep riding the power wave, and they need to build some excitement for their system or they're going to risk bleeding users to PS, which only gives them more problems in the future.

Darth:

I agree with a lot of what you said except, there is no clean slate in 2018 for xbox. The best way they could have an opportunity that monumental is by hitting the console refresh button. This gen has already been decided and its a bit late this far into gen 8 for ms to finally get hit with some act right. Even if they pulled off the impossible of churning out 3-6 exclusives from 2018 on with a meta of 85 and higher most gamers made up their minds and not only that sony is in overdrive (hyperdrive) with its exclusives going into year 5 and 6 with each passing gaming event adding more and MORE reasons to be excited.

I honestly think they should have just pulled a nintendo with waiting a few years and start a new gen wiping their hands of the xb1. The ps4 pro and xb1x mid gen upgrades are extremely pointless to the point i hope this shit never happens again. If the pro showed sony anything its that gamers prefer the base console, at the right price, with a steady flow of games and the x has showed ms the importance of exclusive games not power solely or relying to heavy on 3rd partys is key to winning the long race. But its actually much more than that for bad shit for the xb1 gen Xbox has lost much of its sales on hardware and software compared to last gen. Ill honestly be super impressed if the xbox can return to the 360 glory days and go all in with the start of next gen or just be a repeat of this gen in decline further into obscurity...

Golby:

Not only that but almost every if not all new i.p. from ms gets delayed to the point its expected... the only games that even come remotely close to hitting release dates are tried and true ms 1st party games that have been around the block... look at every new ip released in the last 2 years missed its release mark greatly. So even if they did have games for fall 2018 it could be fall 2019 before release.

@knickstr you expect phil to just reverse years of damage in a day expect him to.build 14 studios and have them make exclusives and release them in the same year??? No get out of fairy land. Things take time to make and do

Phil said compatibility across all gens - he fulfilled that

Delivered on Play Anywhere as more titles are coming

Said best and most powerful hardware - fulfilled

Only thing he hasn’t delivered on is more exclusives which I believe will come in time

@LordJamar

Phil is rolling into his 4'th year at the helm... When should he have started doing things like creating new games and investing in studios? If he starts now it's going to be 4-5 years before any projects start to bear fruit. Perhaps if he had started 4 years ago xbox wouldn't be in the situation it's in now.

These "years of damage" were Phil's years.

Phil was promoted in 2014. Assuming he started on day 1 with new studios and games we wouldn’t realistically see anything until 2018-2019 ...a solid 4-5 years

@lord
Phil was General manager of Microsoft game studios in Europe until 2008 when he became General manager for Microsoft game studios as a whole before becoming head of Xbox so there is 0 excuse. Anything he has to fix in that area is his own doing.

@343
While true, Phil stated they were investing in first part games through creation and acquiring studios.

The earliest we would even know about any new games would be E3 due to their choice to announce games within a year of release if fhry acquired a studio that was going to be releasing on Xbox anyways.

With Xbox stating for a second time that they are now investing in 1st party again, unless it's buying studios we won't see a new exclusive before 2019 at the earliest.

Ms may also do more of the timed exclusive to hold the player attention until their games are releasing.

Edit: or invest that in already acquired studios to expand their team and allow more passion projects.

Gran Turismo isnt a gaas.
Forza is.

One doesn't have lootboxes and MT
The other one does.

MT aren't a requirement for being classified as a GaaS.

GaaS just means a game that has ongoing support for the long term....typically more than a normal update schedule which you may see with DLC or whatever. Typically, GaaS is funded by MT or DLC though. GT Sport is a GaaS as is Forza, as is Halo. Things like Horizon wouldn't be because it's not structured around the same principals, despite having DLC. GaaS also includes MMO's like WOW.

GaaS is nothing new. It's been around for a long time. GaaS is just the new term coined for the general populace to use to put a fancy name on what is typically a MP MT riddled game.

@Guiilty

All of MS 1st party games announced right now, and likely the next Forza, are all GaaS games. F7 is, although Gears4 is a stretch, despite technically falling into that filed with the MP aspect. Usually we don't consider that kind of MP to be GaaS though.

Hope that answers your questions.

Based on your definition then Uncharted 4 is GAAS.

https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

NiOh is GAAS

OOPS looks like Nier is too

https://kotaku.com/nier-aut...