Seriously, what's this silly notion that shaders and other cosmetic items are 'content' all of a sudden?

It's not like new strikes, crucible maps and new missions are hidden behind lootboxes!

Yes, the focus on them is a bit too much in Destiny 2 lately, but lootboxes don't give extra content.

As for The Dawning only giving 7 Dawning engrams, I agreed with that notion at first, but they sell 2 armour pieces a week for bright dust, when you complete gift blueprints you get plenty of the different sparrows and ghosts and shaders that you might want and the ones that you don't want you can dismantle into bright dust. Also every day you get another holiday gift for 'spreading the cheer' containing more. We're only half way thru and already got a full armour set for my Warlock, almost there for my Titan and Hunter, got plenty of Ghosts and ships and shaders and bought the new Exotic Emote...

It seemed crooked at first and undoable, but it's far from it. People probably haven't bothered doing the blueprints which means they miss out on a lot of the items and bright dust.

With the seasons tho, I do agree, I haven't been all that lucky with the bright engrams and it keeps giving me crap. Of all the things that are in there I kinda like to collect the exotic emotes the most, but of the 4 of season 1 I only got 2 and I had to buy those with bright dust in the last week! Now with season 2 tho I already have 2 from bright engrams so hopefully I can get the other 2 as well.

Shaders is stupid, you either get too many from ones you don't want and the ones you do want are limited and of course they are one-time use only so I don't bother too much with them. Sparrows and ghosts aren't worth it in my opinion either.

Again, yes, they focus too much on it, but it's not content and for the most part it's not all that bad (except I want my damn emotes! :))

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Loot boxes go away, another form of greedy MT's will pop up. Don't worry.

True, and there are already some that exist. But you only mentioned LB. We can deal with the other ones can complain about those when they come up.

Kids also blindly buying into the crap of bulk vending machines. Average annual revenue of
Capsule venders is $178,536,000. The average annual revenue of novelty capsule vendors is $5,135,000 and average annual revenue of Flat Vending - Stickers & Temporary Tattoos is $36,960,000, which is literally a cosmetic micro transaction. I don't see many adults buying from these machines, It's people under 18. Over 200 million dollars (stats from 2006, which means it's more now) and have been doing this since the 1880s. Furthermore, these machines are even cheaper than MTs in games (up to 4x cheaper, .25¢) which means more people can buy into them. The amount of value a person gets from one of these machines and micro transactions are extremely comparable and to say there is no value and its trash just isn't true.

Your definition of gambling doesn't apply to this because you're not risking money.

risk. noun
1.
a situation involving exposure to danger.

verb
1.
expose (someone or something valued) to danger, harm, or loss

@LandoCalrissiano

way to cherry pick one word of the definition to work in your defense. though one could argue that you are risking money... I'm not here to persuade. just point to the fact that by definition loot boxes are gambling. So...

"To stake or risk" You do realize what it means to stake right?

"a : something that is staked for gain or loss
b : the prize in a contest
c : an interest or share in an undertaking or enterprise"

For gain or loss, You are putting your money on the chance to win the prized item you are looking for. By definition there is no reasonable argument to say that loot boxes aren't gambling. That elusive item, as with every single item in that loot box has a percentage, ratio or numbers backing it's potential for users to obtain. Now we don't know exactly how every loot box is configured or distributed but consider for one second RNG. Random Number Generated prizes. That elusive item, for example has a 1% chance, Legendary 24%, Rare 24% and Common 51%.

The simple fact is that you put money on a chance prize. Just because you receive something doesn't mean it's not gambling. The easy way to avoid this would be to sell specific items. But doing this would cut profits because instead of spending $100+ to try obtaining that item you could spend $5, 10, 15, 20 for that one item and be done.

“OR, if you can spend real money on in-game currency, but also you can SELL the in-game currency BACK for real money, you know, so the system will be fair. But of course no one will agree on that. ”

Of course they wouldn’t go for that. Because that’s actual gambling. That’s “cashing out” and that does violate gambling laws unlike the standard practice of loot boxes.

@opinionated

So buying in-game currency for real money is ok, but selling your hard earned in-game currency back to the publisher is considered gambling by you? That is some top level mental gymnastics.

No that’s the law dude. It’s not gambling because it’s tied to in game. You put money in and it’s in the game forever. What you suggest would change the whole game around. If we could “cash out” then the more valuable items would be much harder to get. MUCH harder, casino odds. People would gamble until they had more money than they put it and then cash out. It would be real gambling. It’s not my fault you don’t know what the laws are and you base your opinion on a dictionary definition with no context.

Yes "all manner" not just exclusively live service like Jim was doing, but you also shouldn't be forcing devs to make games they not only have no experience making, but also flatout dont want to do.

Assuming that anything like that is actually the case and not just a perception of n4g commenters of course.

@isarai_lee
Yes "all manner" not just exclusively live service like Jim was doing.

I don't understand why you people have to keep making up lies. You can say you don't like some or most of their focus being on live service games, but to say they were exclusively focusing on live service games is pure copium. At most half of their games were live service and the rest were single player games. Seriously why lie about something so obvious?