They shouldn't be in ANY game. They are cancer.

You're trying to say $60 isn't enough for a video game? You are delusional.

Obviously. Making AAA games is very expensive. Yet gamers only pay $60 for them. That's not nearly enough. There needs to be a system that allows devs to make more money off players even after the game is released so they can make up the sunk cost. It's either microtransactions, or raise the price of games to $80-90.

@JMRamee:
That myth needs to die. Things like DLC and MT have compromised product or game quality and thus lowered their base value. That plus considering that marketing costs are often included when a game is "made", the example of small dev teams have made far better titles than larger ones, the whole thing about AAA costing more is artificial. Something publishers made up so profit margins could reach absurd levels.

When CDs where introduced they greatly reduced production costs versus cartridges which made some games $120. Made $60 a standard price. When direct download started to become a thing the only justification for game prices to remain unchanged was so they physical sales weren't effected - how is that not BS?

Likewise, now that DLC and MTs have become a thing, do you honestly think that publishers are going to give them up if base prices increase by $20-30?

JMRamee. You should start looking at Spread sheets for games. The market exploded in 2008 2009. Publishers are making hand over fist.

Perfect example movies cost substantially more to make, do you see them raising price. Theaters have lowered price and upgraded. Movies in stores are still 20 bucks.

I was in the music industry for awhile and I know first hand what is happing. Game industry is heading down same path as music industry. They Artificially raise the price of games to monopolize the market, making it to hard to compete.

The music industry did this in the 90’s and its been going ever since. They don’t push the industry the keep right where it’s at charging the same price for CD even though they are supper cheap now, and recording has gone down substantially with digital.

People need to wake up or games will stall with all the wrong none creative people killing the industry. It’s not hard to see what is happening

This. This right here is probably the best system we could hope for. It's not perfect, but it's certainly better than what Battlefront II was initially doing.

Well the thing is, your logic would only apply in an ideal world. In a real world, why would the devs waste resources to implement MTs/lootboxes to the game if it mean people don’t have a reason to buy them? Hiding the VC tab or letting people people earn everything without paying would have defeated the purpose of lootbox/MTs.

You can never have a middle ground with MTs/lootboxes. That is why I say remove them outright, or only place them in a free to play game.

I actually believe similar to what people see from OverWatch in regards to cosmetic only is the best compromise for both business and user.

As Overwatch stands, they shouldn't get off lightly. It'd be fine if it was a F2P game, but it's not.

Free to play games suck though. So your are fine with people getting suckered in so you can play some lame game for free, got ya.

Plus game devolopers are now seeing that hey, you can make a crappy game and people will actually play it. It’s bad for the industry.

You should stick to FTP games then. No gamer wants what you're trying to help push. You are part of the problem.

No it isn't, but neither is Overwatch the other example I used.