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Xbox One X’s Biggest Advantage Is Its Biggest Problem

True 4K gaming. That's what Microsoft promises us with the Xbox One X, and to their credit, they are delivering on their promise a whole lot better than Sony managed to with the PS4 Pro.

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Bigpappy3166d ago

Well wouldn't that be a problem though for all future consoles

Skull5213165d ago

It’s a future proof console, if people don’t have 4K I don’t know that I would recommend it but I would if you’re planning on getting it. Some 4K is down to $350 for large screens so it won’t be long until it is very common.

arkard3165d ago

Any 4k 350$ screen you are getting is garbage. Unless it's like 15"

KickSpinFilter3165d ago (Edited 3165d ago )

$350 for a 4K TV I would not do. Won't have HDR, not have that great of blacks and most of all Motion Blur and Lag would be to the point of nauseaum
Here's a site for specs reviews
http://www.rtings.com
https://displaylag.com/disp...

Parasyte3165d ago

Not quite that cheap, but it is getting there. I was in Sam’s Club today and saw a Vizio 55” 4K TV for $500. However, the BenQ Zowie GW2765HS (I think that is the model) monitor is 4K and usually runs for around $300.

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ElementX3166d ago

I think in the future you will see some 4k assets on the regular Xbox game disc to reduce download sizes.

Goldby3165d ago

That would mean double packing assets, either making normal Xbox users have to download portions of the game that would have been on the disc, or multiple discs.

ElementX3165d ago

Not necessarily. Games don't always take up the entire disc.

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rainslacker3165d ago

They have a storage medium which can hold more data, why not include what's needed on the disc. Plus, these huge file sizes we see now don't have to be that big, so hopefully the devs will optimize their assets better. They only have about 80% more memory to work with on the X1X, doesn't make sense to have 3X the size for the assets themselves, because it means they're not optimizing those 4K assets well, and if the assets are too big, it can slow down rendering and not use all the available power. Just because the memory is there, doesn't mean that it doesn't take time to read that memory on the GPU side of things.

TheVetOfGaming3165d ago (Edited 3165d ago )

I still don't agree with their PR for "true" 4k gaming. To the average Joe, they will think it runs all games in native 4k, and Microsoft know that.

Enjoigamin3165d ago

This console isn't for the average joe...that's been stated by Microsoft 100 times....if average joe buys the X and doesn't understand what we know than that's average joe problem for not researching.

neoandrew3165d ago (Edited 3165d ago )

Well sony is making the same with pro, it marketing like those 4k hdr tvs, this is how it works and from now on just like sony they will only show games from xbox x and trailer rendered on xbox x also.

TankCrossing3165d ago

Right, and what will our friend average joe think about "dynamic 4k*"?

G20WLY3165d ago

Assuming he can understand basic English, he'll think it means what it is: changeable, since that is the very definition of the word 'dynamic'.

It just doesn't work if you apply the same logic to the literal definition of the word 'true'.

Using dictionary definitions makes this inarguable. I wouldn't describe either as perfectly clear and without dubious motivation, but the implications of MS choice of words are more misleading to 'Joe', as is often their strategy.

TankCrossing3165d ago (Edited 3165d ago )

Yeah that is a very literal, scientific interpretation of the word. Of course language is more nuanced than that. Dynamic is also commonly used to describe someone or something positive, energetic, and exciting. The opposite of something static, as static is unresponsive and boring.

Take a look at some Sony Pro marketing, and substitute the word "dynamic" for the word "changeable". You think that's what Sony want to tell average Joe? "Changeable 4k resolution"? Really?

If it was as simple as "understanding basic English" then Sony's Pro marketing wouldn't have asterisks and caveats all over it.

TankCrossing3165d ago

As for Microsoft's "True 4k", i agree it is totally misleading as well. My point was that they all want to mislead Joe.

G20WLY3165d ago

Tank, I'm agreeing with you to a point, but I think you've just highlighted that Sony's choice of wording was clever, being both 100% accurate and putting a positive spin on a slightly underwhelming power gain.

MS, on the other hand, have bent the truth so far its snapped clean off! 😂

In summary, I'd say:

'Dynamic 4k' = cheeky
'True 4k' = naughty

TankCrossing3165d ago

Mmm yes i think we're pretty much in agreement.

However, if you consider that deliberately misleading Joe puts them both on the wrong side in terms of ethics then you could argue that Microsoft's extreme bending of the truth is more intelligent, assuming they get away with it from a legal standpoint.

G20WLY3164d ago

We're definitely in agreement now!

I would say it treads an unhealthy fine line though. The law doesn't always cover what's morally wrong, sadly.

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timotim3165d ago

Sony advertised base PS4 as the "1080p console", despite the fact that not all games for ir ran at that resolution. The idea was that it had enough to be considered the 1080p console because most games ran at that resolution...X is no different. Sure, not all games will run at 4k, but as we are seeing, enough of them do to be considered a 4k box. furthermore, X will play these very games the best out of any other console making it the forerunner.

TheVetOfGaming3165d ago

I don't agree with either, really. I think both should have been advertised honestly.

BarneyS3165d ago

What? Sony never used 1080p or full hd in their advertisement for the PS4. They used “this is for the players”, “greatness awaits” and sometimes they said it was the world’s most powerful console which was true at the time.
If you had followed the PS4 reveal you would know that Sony had a clear message from the beginning: the PS4 was all about simple game development for developers and it was first and foremost a console made for gamers. That clear message from the beginning is what brought them succes, not the resolution.

Smokingunz3165d ago

U may be in to something. U never know though. I guess ill know for sure when i get ny hands in it. If it looks mind blowing to me, then its true 4k. As long as it looks better than what we have now im good.

FinalFantasyFanatic3165d ago

The average Joe doesn't know squat about technical terms, half the posters on N4G probably don't understand alot of the technical terms. It's easier to go with marketing slogans or something simple and catchy (or just sounds impressive) for the laymen. Anyone remember how Sega used to market their consoles?

TheVetOfGaming3165d ago

I remember Sega marketing haha. I understand they have to sell, and give the console something that's outstanding, but a lot of uninformed people will be expecting more than what they get. I'm holding off for next gen to see if 4k will be the standard, because they are nearly there now.

rainslacker3165d ago

While I agree with you, the entire 4K market is like this right now. Not just in the console space. If one goes in uninformed, its highly possible they're not going to get the full experience that 4K has to offer.

TheVetOfGaming3165d ago

You're not wrong there I suppose.

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NoPeace_Walker3165d ago (Edited 3165d ago )

Didn't we already have 5 of these same opinion pieces approved today? It is called advancement. 512k floppy disc games became 32meg cartridge. Then 700mb CDs, then DVDs, then Blu Rays, to now even more space is required to keep up with technology. That is why from the beginning MS gave us the option to add on more HDD space via external HDD and all of our data can be stored in the cloud to download when needed.

By next generation when the PS5 and XB2 comes out, even more space is required. I wish Apple gave us that option to add in more space when needed on their iphones.

kneon3165d ago (Edited 3165d ago )

Apple won't do that, otherwise how will they sucker you into paying for their even more overpriced model with more storage?

G20WLY3164d ago

Coming this spring, the new iPhone XS (S for storage): double the storage and 4% slimmer than the old X.

To you, sir? $2,000

😂

nitus103165d ago (Edited 3165d ago )

Err yes and no.

I will quote from a search I did. " Conventional (pre-BD-XL) Blu-ray Disc discs contain 25 GB per layer, with dual layer discs (50 GB) being the industry standard for feature-length video discs. Triple-layer discs (100 GB) and quadruple layers (128 GB) are available for BD-XL re-writer drives."

Now it would make sense to use the triple or quadruple layer Bluray disks for games that require a lot of resources, however, the Bluray player is relatively slow (27MB/sec read speed for HD Bluray) and is only going to be used as an installer not as a player so it would not be that much of a problem having games come on more than one double density Bluray disk if the cost is cheaper. What is important is your storage device, it's capacity
and it's performance.

When playing a game or any software for that matter loading times are primarily dependent on two main factors those being the system bus and the performance of your storage device(s).

In the case of the system bus SATA 2 is about 300MB/sec (PS4 and XB1) while SATA 3 is about 600MB/sec (PS4pro and possibly the XB1x). https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... It must be noted that there are other proposed standards but I won't go into them here.

The main bottleneck in any computer is normally the storage device such as a hard disk drive (HDD) or a solid-state disk (SSD) with the HHD having read speeds up to 120MB/sec (average about 80MB/sec) while an SSD can get read speeds of well over 500MB/sec.

So basically going forward the main performance limits of the next generation consoles will be the storage device, not the Bluray player.

Fun fact. The performance of a MicroSD card can vary from about 20MB/sec to over 100MB/sec and the price will vary accordingly.

Enjoigamin3165d ago

Stupid article.

He says
"Otherwise, functionally, most people won’t bother downloading 4K updates for a lot of their Xbox One X games- at which point, why bother?

How the hell does he "know" what most people will do?

Gamingbolt at it again spewing Garbage out of their ass. Either your gonna move forward with technology or your not...get with the times.

TankCrossing3165d ago (Edited 3165d ago )

I didn't know it was common place to have the option not to download the assets, so at least I've learnt something from this one. Or i would have, if i had any confidence that Gamingbolt aren't full of shit.

Enjoigamin3165d ago

I do like how is says at the bottom of the article that's its the authors opinion and does not represent gamingbolt lol

Bigpappy3165d ago (Edited 3165d ago )

Who the heck would buy the X and choose not to download the assets? What's the point? Might as well just get a pro for a resolution bump or stick with the S

DLConspiracy3165d ago

They are just churning the fanboy butter. It's all most of these sites care about. It's not about games it's about clicks.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot68d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle68d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7768d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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Star Wars: Bounty Hunter Let Jango Fett Loose

LucasArts gave Jango Fett his own game in 2002, and it pulled Star Wars into a much dirtier, rougher, and more interesting corner of the galaxy.

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Relientk7773d ago

I remember playing this back in the day on PS2. What a sick game!

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Dear team,

Xbox has always been different.

We started with a simple idea. Games should bring people together through shared experiences. That led to the first Xbox in 2001, Xbox Live in 2002, and new ways to connect, from friends lists and achievements to parties and play across devices. Today, Xbox reaches over 500 million players around the world, with some of the most important franchises in entertainment.

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Outside_ofthe_Box73d ago (Edited 73d ago )

If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it. They would be turning down immediate money for something that will potentially workout in the long term.

Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box. A lot of their base has moved to PC or jumped to PS. So will be a long road to get back on track.

We have been saying this from day one exclusives are a must if you are going to be selling hardware look at Nintendo and Sony before Jim Ryan. That's the proven formula. You had some that were deluded and blinded by loyalty accepting that multiplat was the future and that MS was merely getting ahead of where the industry was headed, but at least they can finally see the light and agree with what everyone has been saying for a decade+

pwnmaster300073d ago

True, blame it on the rabid fanboys. MS can do no wrong and spinner this multiplatform move. While the actual fans moved on.

I feel like with the new Xbox coming they are hoping to bring back those old fans and then if it goes well. Bring back exclusives.

If the new console is performing like series x and one. Naw they staying multiplatform.

darthv7273d ago

Actual fans dont move on... they can add to their hobby while waiting for the next new release. If you believe what you typed then I guess PS fans moved on too.... you know, since its been a Sahara for 1st party games this gen.

S2Killinit73d ago

The fans didn’t tell them to go multilat. MS was forced to after the 82 billion they spent to destroy gaming. Then, while xbox fans cheered, MS realized they can’t justify the price tag by selling through xbox only, so they went multiplat and in the process began to downplay console gaming.

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CrashMania73d ago

I think it's too late, xbox sales were diving even before ABK, they got even worse since then even long before the full multiplatform push. I'd be surprised if they even went back to timed exclusivity at this point, Helix is basically a PC and is going to be expensive, they already struggle to sell cheaper xbox consoles, it will be low volume and they'll have a very small 'console' base to sell to, which has already been conditioned to just play via gamepass anyway.

S2Killinit73d ago

They will do what they always do, they will promise the world at the beginning of next GEN and then failed to deliver all generation long. But there will always be some gamers who will buy into their promises.

ocelot0773d ago

Absolutely agree, Do people genuinely believe Microsoft are now going to go. Hang on how's about we go back to 2020. Then GP was stagnating, Games sold where awful because of GP. Outsold by Playstation by a landslide.

They have sold 5m of Forza I believe on PS5. Spite it being a old game. I think Starfield is going to sell well in the end. Halo is deffinetly going to sell well as is Fable and Forza Horizon 6.

I think at best (for Xbox fans). Single player titles like Clockwork will have a timed exclusivity. Multiplayer centric games like Forza, E Day will release day and date on all platforms.

Or all games will release on all platforms day and date. But maybe Xbox and Windows Store copies will have exclusive bonuses. Or may even get timed exclusive dlc like Fallout and Elder Scrolls and COD use to do.

I think they will treat Xbox players like the premium customers or at least act the way. But will serve just the Playstation and Switch 2 customers as well.

Neonridr73d ago

I don't see them removing PC from the equation. Considering MS has a heavy enough investment in the PC market, it would be foolish to abandon them. I could see them taking away games from PlayStation or ensuring they are timed exclusives at the very least. Say what you will but if Call of Duty ends up becoming a timed exclusive to Xbox machines, that would hurt PlayStation, don't pretend like those games don't sell millions.

Outside_ofthe_Box73d ago

They would lose out on a lot of CoD sales tho. Doesn't PS make up most of the sales?

Neonridr73d ago

@Outside - possibly, but it might push people to want Xbox hardware so they can play with their buddies day one.

Who knows.

S2Killinit73d ago (Edited 73d ago )

it would but remember doing that can splinter the COD fan base and in the process damage the call of duty brand which is probably the only franchise in that $82 billion purchase that in anyway gets even close to delivering what Microsoft thought they bought. If Microsoft fudges around too much with the COD franchise, you might even see a competitor franchise show up on the scene and that would be a catastrophe after the huge debt that Microsoft put itself into with the ABK purchase.

But Its almost guaranteed that Microsoft will want to do something drastic at the beginning of the next generation as they always do. We will see.

Pyrofire9573d ago

Their lifeline of solely the Xbox consoles is dry. Good-Great games on a 1st party scale can't be made at a loss so willingly - sent to the Xbox to only sell limited copies.
They invested billions scooping up studios and need to start making returns.
Sucks that nearly every company is publicly traded and have to be so shareholder biased but that's how it is.
Their words are strong but it'll take time to see what their actions accomplish. Lowering the cost of Game Pass and taking CoD off of it was a good clear start.

darthv7273d ago

More like, allot of their base just played game pass. So now they need to encourage them to start buying again.

S2Killinit73d ago (Edited 73d ago )

A lot of their base left for greener (bluer?) pastures.

--Onilink--73d ago

What exactly is the long term goal with exclusives though?

Because for the most part, the hardware side of things has never been the most profitable, even sometimes being subsidized for a period before breaking even. And that’s before the hardware component nightmare we currently live in.

The whole point of exclusives was to get more people to buy your console in order to have a bigger install base, which meant even bigger software sales.

But if their ports to PS5 are selling (for the most part it seems) quite well, then other than negating the cut Sony takes there, unless you are REALLY increasing your software sales on your own console, it probably doesn’t make that much of a difference?

Honestly I don’t even understand Sony’s decision to scale back on it for PC unless they weren’t even recouping the port expenses. They released ports when the hardware sales never really dropped, and now that all consoles will undoubtedly take a noticeable drop in sales due to the ridiculous prices, that’s when they decide they don’t want to sell to a larger install base to more easily recoup dev costs… it’s just weird

Outside_ofthe_Box73d ago (Edited 73d ago )

I agree. I mean once they went multiplat, in theory there should be no going back especially when you have games that have sold really well on other platforms.

Microsoft are the ones that announced that they are reevaluating. So I'm just guessing on what their end goal is. Right now Xbox as a hardware is not a must buy for anyone but fans of the brand because their games can be played elsewhere. Going exclusive would solve this, but you lose out on a ton of money instantly which has always been what the company does not want to do so not really sure what their "reevaluating exclusives" means unless they are pulling a Phil Spencer and are just saying what people want to hear and will continue to do what they are currently doing.

darthv7273d ago

Their ports to PS5 are selling because Sony's output has been so dry... the fans are thirsty, and MS is the oasis.

SIdepocket73d ago

Unfortunately, the studios they buy wither under their leadership.

mcstorm73d ago

Microsoft still has a name with Xbox the issue is the casual games are not looking at the console because its not the same console their friends have. Look at that poll on how many users upgraded from xbox 365 to one and then the X. Part of Microsoft's downfall was thinking that the Wii was the market they had to be in when really it was the core market. If you get the core gamers you then get the market to. As I posted a few minuets ago on another post Microsoft putting exclusives on PS this gen could bold well if they hit next gen with all our games are staying exclusive from this new gen. They will then get gamers wanting Halo, Forza Gears but this is also where Microsoft fell over with the xbox one and X in terms of they did not have may quality 1st party games affter they fell into the Gears, Forza and Halo cycle. If they can get some old IPs back to bring back the old core gamers as well as fresh ips to bring in new gamers things could improve next gen. But as I said in my last post its all if buts and maybes at the moment. No one knows if the next home consoles will be to expensive that people move to pc as we are now seeing or look at the stem deck as a cheepier alternitive.

DarXyde73d ago

"Only issue is they've already opened Pandora's box."

That's very optimistic. It's not the only issue, far from it. There is a serious rupture between Microsoft generally and the public caused by their weird Game Pass price fluctuations, taking down physical game space in stores, and being the first to go nuts on hardware price hikes that they themselves played a big part in.

They're also charging beyond a premium for Helix which is just vile at a time when the economy is in shambles.

The company itself is really not doing itself any favors with the approach they're taking Windows. Even France is looking to ditch Windows in favor of Linux.

But the most offensive thing is this AI push. They're doubling, tripling, and quadrupling down on the very technology they're using to replace a considerable proportion of their workforce... And the slap in the face is how they bake copilot into everything when nobody likes it—they couldn't even make Bing stick, so why on earth are they trying so hard? You know it's bad when people would rather use ChatGPT than Copilot which is killing their OS. But aside from their snatching up of farmland to build data centers (and reduce the agriculture capacity of whichever country allows them to build them), they made an AI-generated gamer gurl that loves AI the head of Xbox.

Even if we grant them the full benefit of the doubt, it hardly matters what Xbox wants to do if Nadella says no, and that includes exclusive games. Microsoft's relationship with Xbox is the opposite of Sony's relationship with PlayStation—Microsoft pulls the reins of Xbox, but Sony damn near went under for the PS3.

Tanktopmaster9272d ago (Edited 72d ago )

“If they go back to exclusive games it at least shows that they are finally getting it.”

Great strategy, especially after Forza selling 5 million on PlayStation and sea of thieves selling at least another million (2 million) for example. In March 2026, Xbox consoles sales ratio vs PS was 10:1.

In addition to that, with Gamepass, which unequivocally cuts out chunks of sales (Cannibalizing revenue from 1st month sales especially).

I’m sure going exclusive again after releasing everything on Ps5 is going to work out great for business.

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maximusprime_73d ago

Despite all of that, it's clear that Microsoft's Xbox division is broken beyond repair.

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BeHunted73d ago

PlayStation is currently draining money on flop after flop. It's Sony that needs to re-evaluate their strategy

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CrashMania73d ago (Edited 73d ago )

Wonder how much money was lost on perfect dark, hellbalde 2, 300 million lost revenue
by putting cod on gamepass. The recent Jason schrier news that Xbox has cancelled dozens of projects, spent 70 billion just to see Xbox sales further collapse and gamepass see little growth.

The fact is this has been PlayStation's most profitable generation and they are making loads of money and selling plenty of consoles and games. While MS won't give you any sales figures or profit numbers for Xbox, says it all really.

S2Killinit73d ago

Sony PlayStation has deservedly dominated xbox. Facts

Tanktopmaster9272d ago (Edited 72d ago )

Ok tween.

Xbox series SX got outsold 10:1 last month. lol.

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shadowT73d ago

"Our presence on PC isn’t strong enough."

Fishy Fingers73d ago

It isnt. But I dont think they mean in 'games', rather, footprint.

They own the OS but as far as gaming is concerned, Steam dominate. I imagine the VAST majority of people who use the Xbox app/launcher are PC gamepass subs. No ones buying their 3rd party PC games through Xbox PC.

badz14973d ago

and many gamers prefer SteamOS for gaming over Windows too. If only Valve would be more uncompromising to the anti-cheat makers that locked out non-windows players, more pc gamers would have moved onto SteamOS by now and not looking back to Windows. overall, Win11 is a terrible, bloated, unoptimized OS which is not what many people want

ocelot0773d ago

Agreed and I think that's where they are going to focus on more. I think cheaper games on Windows/Xbox store (MS IP) compared to Steam and Epic and maybe even compared to PSN store as well.

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