I agree. With Nintendo, they gave reason day one with games that supported the inclusion of motion. Microsoft stuck to the casual crowd thinking they would still be there, but didn't put out anything new over what was played on Xbox 360. Better tech should give you better experiences. And having 8 Kinect related studios should have gained at least one hot game that even core gamers would buy it for.

But the writing was on the wall before Xbox one even hit the market. Those Kinect games that were taken away like Ryse and made into core games was a clue that Microsoft didn't believe it could do anything more than what it already did. Which was being a mic and dancing related games. But if they would have followed Dr Mark's work with motion cameras on PS2,
https://m.youtube.com/watch...

Even Kinect on PS2 before Microsoft bought out the company Dr Marks worked with
https://m.youtube.com/watch...
Microsoft could have learned that most gamers reacted better in tests of having tangible items in their hands which created more options with buttons.

Which is why VR works. Because gamers are holding something.

It was all about audience tracking. With always online they'd be able to deliver virtual live stats and market research to advertisers and that, through offering games as services, would have given them more money than just selling the XB1 as a product. Then there was ability to count people in a room watching an event, with MS able to charge charge per person watching something like football as if at a stadium.

Kinect was always the ED-209 of motion controllers: It didn't matter if it worked or not, just so long as it made money.

Don't remember gamers describing the eyetoy as a legacy and nothing to do with kinect. Leave the Sony comments elsewhere.

Motion stuff was never a success until Nintendo did it

I agree. The Xbox one was originally built around Kinect and Xbox live but with Web reactions Microsoft hanged everything and with that kinect became less and less.

It has some really cool uses interaction with the Xbox to jump into games party tv ect were useful. It also had some good uses in games like head tracking in forza, steel battalion worked well with the right setup also the little bits of voice in some games like fifa for switching tactics, players ect were handy.

For me the games that showed off kinect was kinect sports, fitness games like ea sports or nike+ and dance central but support for them stopped and it got less and less. It's good to see kinect still in new technology like hololens and VR but I do think kinect had more going for it out side of gaming and PC developers proved that with what they showed us.

That said it's hard to push addons in the gaming industry no matter how good they are look at vr that is struggling now but getting some good support but I don't see it becoming main steam esp in gaming.

The stock mark is what makes Microsoft remarkable, They have convinced every institutional and retail investor to just keep piling money into them. Like many big tech giants they are just a big growing pyramid scheme. As long as people keep dropping money into ETF's that cover the market Microsoft will always be liquid. At the same time it is completely stifling innovation and competition. People need to start being more discreet in how they invest their money as it's killing the system.

Riiiiight because people will just flock back to them for one or two games per year.

15+ years of bad performance is what they call irreparable in business. It is time for them to sell off the assets and get out of entertainment.

Let me be clear. This is sarcasm